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Bungie - A One-Trick Pony?

"After announcing their fifth Bungie-developed Halo game, we wonder if Bungie has maxed out their potential?

With so many examples of great game developers who've time and again successfully launched new franchises, it begs the question why Bungie can't seem to gather the courage to step out from their comfort zone and give gamers a new experience, even if in between Halo releases. From this standpoint, it's fair to ask whether or not Bungie is indeed a one-trick pony, with their creativity hanging by a rope."

qface646201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

ill always think of bungie as a one trick pony
until they bring something new to the table to me they are just another developer like all the others out there
nothing real special if you ask me

i thought the whole point of them leaving microsoft was so they could make new games???

Chuk_Chuk6201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

because they know halo will sell. maybe thats why they don't move from their comfort zone.

jessehaysfl6201d ago

I hate halo, the control, the art style, the animation.
I hate halo.

However even if bungie is a "one trick pony" Bungie has still out sold almost every other developer with the exception of maybe nintendo.

So if Bungie is a one trick pony, then they pulled off the best trick in history and if we were scoring said trick based on sales then bungie gets about 25 million points.

AKNAA6201d ago

So their kinda like a hot wife that over time got way To comfortable with herself to the point where she is now just lazy and not as attractive as she use to be?!?!...

The Master Chief6201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

Why would Bungie want to stop making the most popular FPS in the world to something that won't be even half as popular?

Bungie became independent and have said they will be taking new chances with the Halo franchise. I don't think they are stupid enough to just give the Halo franchise away. Someone else can make the RTS/Rpg's/whatever else will come....Bungie should make the FPS.

Insomniac has made tons of Ratchet games and aren't even 1/8th as popular as Halo and they keep churning them out. Most franchises can't get Ratchets recognition, much less Halo.

Chuk_Chuk6201d ago

maybe because FPSs are more popular than action and adventure games

snipermk06201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system.

EDIT: Why the disagrees? Damn fanboys and their short sight! Atleast grow a pair and try to prove me wrong instead of phantom disagrees.

Tony P6201d ago

"Maxed out potential"? How insulting to the developers.

Halo is one of the most popular and highest selling games in history. Very few games join that exclusive club. Bungie could try a few new IPs, but most devs would probably kill for a golden egg like Halo.

Brings to mind Blizzard. They haven't churned out anything but Warcraft related material since 2002. Four of those years were dedicated solely to WoW. They've only just recently announced new sequels. Were they just out of ideas for those years? Of course not.

There's nothing wrong with banking on your successes. It's a sound plan and probably here to stay while in the thick of recession. That doesn't mean that Bungie are stagnant. And even though they're producing more under the banner of Halo, these newer titles are still evolving.

Headshot816201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

I don't think they're going to pull it off this time, COD:MW2 is the new Halo, that franchise is growing fast, and across all platforms. Im not a big COD fan,i don't hate it, but i can't deny their talent. Almost every gamer i know has already made up their mind on buying the game. HALO WHO????????

The Master Chief6201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

"ermmmmm, the most popular FPS in the world is the Half Life series far outselling Halo. Get your facts straight even if you're a kid that owns only one (obvious) game system."

ermmmm, actually the Halo series has sold more than the Half Life series. Go find proof, you wont be able to because Halo has sold more than Half life as a franchise.

Also, I own Xbox 360, PC, DS and Wii. It's not really your buisness what I play. And no I don't play Playstation.

Raf1k16201d ago

didn't Bungie make the Oni game?

Would be nice if they'd make a sequal. I loved that game

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vidoardes6201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

Before this little fanboy fight goes on any longer...

Halo Series = 24.8 million copies worldwide
Half-Life Series = 29.8 million copies sold worldwide EXCLUDING Steam sales

Half life 2 sold over 6.5 million copies on steam which pushes the total sales over 35 mil, take into account how much the episodes and half life 1 sold online your probably pushing 50 million

End.Of.Argument

SuperM6201d ago

You are all wrong. The most popular first person shooter is by far Call of Duty.

I find it amusing how many people always mention bungie as one of the top 5 devlopers in the world. Among all the talented devs out there, Bungie has not proven their worth on such a list. They have been riding a wave of hype and advertisement from MS and with the help of a rabbid fanbase that would buy their game even if it was called halo: turd, they have become successful. But aside from Halo1 they have yet to make a classic title. Since then its gone downwards and by the looks of it Halo ODST will be the bottom of the pit so far. 60$ for a 5 hour expansion? no thanks. Still a smart move though, because the fanbase will buy it and they will cash in millions.

But seriously, Bungie does not belong on a list of legendary developers like Valve, Blizzard, Naughty Dog, Infinity Ward, Rockstar North, etc.

vidoardes6201d ago

Call of duty series = 35 million (11 of which is cod5)

Can't you people use google?

Mike134nl6201d ago

If they can only do one trick, It is still a damn good trick.
But guess it would be nice to see if they can do other tricks, since their their first trick sold millions their other tricks might pale before halo.

menoyou6201d ago

Bungie is a mediocre developer of generic games. Nothing they do is polished and none of their products stand out. The only reason people think they're good is because Microsoft spends more money marketing Halo than they will ever receive in profit from its sales.

N4g_null6201d ago

jessehaysfl I agree yet I loved halo's concept and art in the beginning. What we currently call halo is far from what it should have been yet other games have come out to fill that gap so I'm not mad. Halo is horrible half baked potential though. Some times I even wonder if epic could do a better job GASP!

Hey but the funny thing is most developers are one trick ponies simply because games take way too much effort to make now because of HD. These are not comics these are games trying to past the selves off and TV shows or movies.

If Kojima doesn't make zone of enders then he too will be a one trick pony. Hell he even has snatchers to fall back on WTF man! Oh well I guess blogs trying to be web sites must complain about some thing.

Shepherd 2146201d ago

Funny how Kojima never makes anything different than MGS either, but no one notices that because Halo destroys sales charts and MGS doesnt.

mfwahwah6201d ago

@1.18

Kojima puts more effort into MGS. And MGS isn't popular because it's popular. It's popular because it's quality. And yes that's just my opinion of Halo there. Deal with it.

iHEARTboobs6201d ago

It can seem that way but it's hard to do something else when there's more money staring you in the face. I thought we were going to start seeing something new from Bungie (since I thought ODST was their last Halo) but I guess we wont for a while. Either way, they have skill, but I think we could do with a different game in between all the Halo's.

TheReaper426200d ago

Geoff of GT said that HALO is a one trick pony, right after that he said "ouch."

http://www.gametrailers.com...

barom6200d ago

MGS4 was and is a total make over. He stepped out of his comfort zone and made arguably the best stealth game out there. In addition to that he made Zone Of Enders (after MGS2 I believe) which got high remarks and before that he made Policenauts and Snatcher, which also has been praised.

If Bungie would do even a tenth of what Kojima does, I would have at least some respect for them. But instead they go intendepent to do what? Not just one but two more Halo games? How much sense does that make? Either Microsoft won't approve their projects or they just don't have that capability or possibly just scared that they might in fact be a one-trick pony.

swingingape6200d ago

Halo is so overrated. COD is much better series and more innovative too

Shepherd 2146199d ago

Bungie also made Myth, Oni, Marathon, and Pathways into Darkness, all of which received critical praise as well. What of it? Kojima didnt step out of his comfort zone because MGS 4 only expands on the core principles that made the first 3 MGS's, just like Bungie does with Halo. And also, MGS 3 was better than your "perfect" MGS 4. Thats what i think of it. Deal with it. MGS 3 had more gameplay and a better balance of cutscenes, where as MGS 4 is mainly cutscenes.

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Gue16201d ago (Edited 6201d ago )

Epic Tittle! LOL =D

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Halo 2 & 3 Campaign Remakes Allegedly In Development, Halo 7 Will Feature Multiplayer

Remakes of the campaigns featured in Xbox Game Studios' Halo 2 and Halo 3 are currently in development, according to a new rumor.

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medman219d ago (Edited 219d ago )

That's Microsoft's gaming division for you...kill off developers making new ip while trying to capitalize off some long lost glory that has no hope of ever being what it once was thanks to recent decision making favoring unrealistic profit goals and greed. What a joke.

Reaper22_219d ago

So much bitterness. Why be upset over something like this. Just don't buy it and stick with what you prefer.

Tacoboto219d ago

Complaining about Microsoft is the only thing people comment here for anymore.

This website is practically dead without it

Mmmkay218d ago

I remember when you guys constantly complained about Sony remaking and remastering games. Guess it is cool now. As usual.

thesoftware730218d ago

Give it rest medman..., take a deep breath and try to not sound so invested in something no one is forcing you to read, buy, or play.

"Console war"is over, Sony won, be happy.

medman214d ago (Edited 214d ago )

@thesoftware730
I'm invested in people losing their jobs and their livelihoods while Microsoft execs tout record profits for their gaming division. Not sure why you wouldn't be invested. Could be you one day. Good luck.

Travesty219d ago

So what’s their solution to having multiplayer? Wait until Halo 7?
That was one of the most memorable parts of Halo..

monkey602219d ago

I'm not sure spending the heavy investment in time to recreate the multiplayer here is the answer either though.
Remaking the campaigns is a great idea to bring the new players up to speed. But if the multiplayer is included in each it'll just fracture the player base of each release.
I think it might be better to turn these campaigns out quicker and have 1 multiplayer game to keep everyone in one place

Travesty219d ago

Maybe having an Halo Online and just release the Combat Evolve maps. And when Halo 2 releases have those maps release. I don’t know but I would like to play a newer version of Halo multiplayer. I know times have changed, and Fortnite is all younger kids really play. But back then it was Halo and you connecting 6 Xbox’s together lol.

jjb1981219d ago

I agree. I think that'll segment the playerbase and once 7 comes out, players might realize it sucks and go back to the older games. Especially if 7 is live-servixe, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot on the one good leg they have to stand on.

crazyCoconuts219d ago

Kinda surprised they didn't just port MCC.
Maybe more $ to by made with separate remasters

Inverno219d ago

Wouldn't have that problem if it were MCC being released. Gotta wait for 7 to be disappointed with MP all over again cause if they half baked Infinite what makes people think they won't half bake the next game? MP works in past HALO games not cause of nostalgia but because it's MP that isn't concerned with the endless service approach.

JEECE218d ago

There is so much cognitive dissonance over Infinite. People say they didn't like it because it was a live service. Yet if you look at what the criticisms of it were at the time it came out and when the playerbase started falling off, the primary issue people had was a lack of updates. In other words, it wasn't enough of a live service.

Which is really an encapsulation of the problem with multiplayer today. So many people think that they want to go back to the "good old days" of mid-2000s multiplayer (The first few Halos, Socom, the first few Battlefields, CS 1.6, etc), but in reality if a multiplayer game like that came out today, people would whine about the lack of content within a month of launch and go back to a live service with a grindy progression system.

isarai219d ago

Why not just port the MCC? 🤔 That was the easiest layup ever and you completely missed it

franwex219d ago

30% profit margins! People will pay $70+ for remakes!

Software_Lover219d ago

I thought the same thing, then I realized that they wouldn't include the remakes in that edition. We may get a different version of Halo MCC in the future with all of the remakes included. I just want them to include Halo 5 at some point for PC.

TheColbertinator219d ago

Can they remake Reach too with the multiplayer?

Knightofelemia219d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will port Reach over to Playstation I quite enjoyed that game. I played Halo 3 and it was not bad I have Halo 2 on the OG Xbox I just need some cables to hook up to my tv to play it.

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Halo art director leaves studio after 17 years with ominous message alluding to discontent

Glenn Israel writes: "As of today and after seventeen long years, I am officially no longer contributing to the Halo universe. There is little more I can say for the moment, though I intend to share this particular story in its entirety when it is absolutely safe to do so next year. In the meantime, I have a message for anyone and everyone who needs to hear it.

I know that the state of our industry seems dire, but never forget that you are *free to choose*. No illusion of security nor promise of wealth or fame or power is worth trading away your health, your dignity, your ethics or values - and no one can force you to. Stay strong, take evidence when necessary, and find where you belong."

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Bathyj240d ago

My god.
There's a story for next year.

VenomUK240d ago

I’m really disappointed to learn there are still people/morale problems. I thought the whole point of rebranding 343i to Halo Studios was to signal that real changes had been made - not to cynically rebrand to paper over the problems.

I really hope the Halo CE remake is great and gets people hyped for the future of the series.

DarXyde239d ago

It's inevitable with the modern landscape. Even if some issues have been assuaged, new ones crop up all the time.

I'm willing to bet AI and the lack of regulation is causing substantial upset.

shinXseijuro240d ago (Edited 240d ago )

He said something very marking . We tend to complain a lot about the industry but deep down I realize that we never have we been offered this crazy amount of games all available for you to play now . You can literally play any sorts of games in 2025 . Nobody is forcing you to buy the latest COD or the latest BF . You’re more of a 8 bit cozy gaming guy there’s a whole niche of modern games for that . You like micromanaging there’s games for that . I feel like we have been spoiled so much we just stopped being realistic and thinking for ourselves . We follow trends cry about stuff online when you are the buyer you have the power .

Notellin240d ago

I'm not buying any games until another Immersive sim is made.

PhillyDonJawn240d ago

....wth happened over there?
Does this confirm a new Halo by next year?
What did they want him to do that made him feel it was morally wrong or a insult to his integrity?

-Foxtrot240d ago

Well how about that, a name change doesn’t fix internal issues

Who would have thought

jznrpg240d ago

MS was throwing money around for a long time but now it’s time to pay the Piper.

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Helldivers 2 Celebrating Xbox Launch — Looks Like It's Teasing a Crossover With Halo 3: ODST

A new teaser in a Helldivers 2 Xbox launch trailer seems to suggest that a crossover with Halo 3: ODST is on the way.

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lukasmain300d ago

This collab proves that New Halo games coming to Playstation: CONFIRMED

The last pillar has fallen XD

Tedakin299d ago

I mean Helldivers 2 is coming to Xbox in 2 weeks. It has a Playstation Studios logo on it. The first pillar has fallen.

lukasmain299d ago

LOL you think a live service game is a Playstation pillar? hahahahahaha

1Victor297d ago

The first pillar has fallen.
🤦🏿 Well the competitor’s house already got 2/3 pillars down and the 3rd one is rotted to the core about to fall any minute now bringing down the glass house of cards down FOREVER 🤣
THE WAR IS OVER DEAL WITH IT

Reaper22_297d ago

It doesnt matter. You can get playstation stuff on PC. That pillar fell a long time ago. And next gen it will continue to fall.

Tedakin298d ago (Edited 298d ago )

@lukasmain Their one successful live service game, and their most successful game in the last few years. Yeah I do.

lukasmain298d ago (Edited 298d ago )

It's not a pillar. Expect ALL live serviice games to come over. That includes that upcoming Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls as well at some point. But the PILLARS are the amazing single player games. The games they built their brand on. Helldivers LAUNCHED on PC. It's not a Playstation Pillar