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Latest figures: PSN members vs Xbox Live users

E3 is heralded as the biggest gaming event of the year, attended by journalists from all around the gaming globe, with publishers saving their latest and greatest announcements for the prestigious expo. But the event also carries with it a not so subtle underbelly. No, we're not talking about corporate espionage, suspicious charges to escort services on company credit cards or bare skin fistfights beneath the expo stage. We're referring to the epic cockfight that underlies every new announcement of every game.

Games are branded with a specific camp in mind, be it in Spiderman font, green lettering or recently grey-ified typeface. Hell, even multiplatform titles are showcased on one system or another in an attempt to bolster the poorly veiled grudge match that occurs weekly across the internet channels and more openly at the bigger gaming events. Whenever an opportunity rears its head, someone takes a shot across someone else's bow. And then of course, there's the numbers and figures that get conveniently released around about the time of a major expo.

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Odion6184d ago

Good god, first lets talk about the site, the fact that you have 15 pages with 2 lines on each one is borderline criminal and you have a ad that pops up 5 seconds in, blocking what little text their is.

And PSN includes PsP accounts, and people with forum accounts on Playstation.com

socomnick6183d ago

Not to mention most people have 3 or more accounts for all the content specific downloads. I personally have 4 psn accounts.

360 man6183d ago

i really do believe all of that could have been done on 2 pages

its a cheap way to get more page hits i say

FamilyGuy6183d ago (Edited 6183d ago )

im somewhat afraid to post in this topic, given the members who've posted so far...

Anyways, Socomnick, yeah right. It's annoying and unneeded to begin with to have more than one account, unless you REALLY want things only offered in other countries. I have only one account and was annoyed by setting up a cousins so why would anyone do that 4 times?

There are DEFINITELY people with more than one account but the same is true for 360 owners. It's ONLY $30-$50 a year and spoiled kids NEVER want to share their accounts. What's $30 if it keeps the kids from arguing about such things like "You deleted some of my friends!" "You deleted my saves!" ALL YEAR.

Mention of the psp is pointless, at least until the Go is released. the only psp users with PSN accounts are the psp owners with PS3s, it's as simple as that. I've had my psp since launch and never signed on to PSN through it. I'd say about %2 of PSP owners, without ps3s, have created accounts and the rest are from dual account PS3 owners.

You guys make me laugh, but in a bad way.

Speaking of which, I know SEVERAL people that don't even have a silver membership and have NEVER signed their 360s online. I recently updated my girls cousins to the NEX so that he could play avi files cuz they required an online update, then i still had to update it for a few different media types.

Anyways, yeah, no wifi outta box makes 360 a hassle to sign online with for semi-casual gamers. That's the bottom line to that.

-MD-6183d ago

I have 4 psn accounts and my younger brother has 3

Microsoft Xbox 3606183d ago (Edited 6183d ago )

I have 15 XBL Gold accounts.

thereapersson6183d ago

One of the worst game sites on the internet. How their garbage gets approved around here is beyond me...

SuperM6183d ago

I can guarantee you that most PS3 owners only have 1 PSN accounts. Its only the most hardcore audience that would get several accounts. Id concider myself one of those hardcore and i only got my second account yesterday.

table6183d ago (Edited 6183d ago )

I have 10 PSN accounts /sarcasm

What are you xbox fanboys so insecure about? It's not like these numbers really matter.

On another note, this site is a disgrace.

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skip2mylou6183d ago

i really do have 3 accounts U.S/Asia/ and EU if u wanna check then here u go FadedDeath216745/Prettykillaz/ fdsqwer EU i didnt really care cause i never play games with it just grab content off of the EU PSN

Megatron086183d ago

While I'd say probaly around 6-8million of those accounts are on the ps3. given the number of people that have like 3-5 accounts I say there is probably only about 2-3 million total playing online on the ps3. While cause the XBL account are only for the 360 there is accually 20 million online. A few are silver accounts but I guess around 15 million are gold. I've personally seen over 4 million people on Halo alone.

stewgart like hell the number doesnt matter having 15 million to play with vs 2-3 million. With 15m people you can find someone to play with online on almost any game even the older ones.

table6183d ago (Edited 6183d ago )

talking out your ass megatron. Most of the normal people(i.e. not people on here) with a ps3 will have just 1 account(like me). All my friends with an xbox have gone through multiple free trial accounts. Also microsoft are not clear on how they count gold accounts like when you renew it and change your ID. You can twist it and spin it all you like but at the end of the day the numbers of xbox live and psn online accounts will both be proportionate to the units sold.

notpill6183d ago

Totally agreed.
what a horrible site!
with all that 15 pages articles...wtf?? I saw a page with two lines and.. jump..another one with just two lines of text.

DelbertGrady6183d ago

PSN numbers include PSP, PS3 and PC.

yippie1234y6183d ago

i got 1 account on each system (360 and ps3).

i got both systems cause i had nothing to play when i my xbox got the red ring.

then my membership expired during the process. at this point i really gave ps3 a chance and enjoyed the free online. When gears 2 came out i was back on xbl. I guess the point im trying to make is each system has its good and bad this war over which system is better is so dumb.

what is the point do you think one day the other side will say "you were right im gonna go buy that system now" just enjoy what you got and stop acting like 4th graders.

i want to read news not these bs comments

Arkham6183d ago

"PSN numbers include PS3, PSP, and PC..."

And XBL numbers include original Xbox owners...

Thugbot1876183d ago

Not sure how a site like that got approved. Next time DMason save us the trouble don't post the site or post the full story here so we don't have to go there.

IdleLeeSiuLung6183d ago (Edited 6183d ago )

The fact that you have more accounts than PS3s sold is telling. Sony adopted the approach of:

- allowing signup online without a PS3
- merging their website accounts with PSN
- PSP, PS3 and PC are all included in that figure
- early in the PS3's life (before Trophies were released) there where less likely to stick to one username due to no investment
- I believe Sony releases members, not active members (although that is loosely if at all defined)
- allows accounts in different countries

So yeah, the PSN accounts will have many duplicates. Personally, I just witnessed my brothers friends many whom had changed their username even after collecting Trophies.

The Xbox 360 will have duplicates as well due to multiple trial accounts and some on different countries (but I believe this is patched up?), but there is probably also a bunch of people that share one account due to the cost. Furthermore at least 50% of the number they released are Gold customers.

Really a better measure is to look at games that sell about even relative to the competitors user base. Then extrapolate how many online gamers are on each platform to get an idea of relative size.

On another note, I thought there were reports of PSN had 30 million accounts already?

edgeofblade6183d ago

Of all the useless, fanboy-baiting, bad-science numbers that we put up with today, PSN and XBL accounts are the worst. Neither companies' figures are useful for anything.

iamtehpwn6183d ago

I hate you
DO NOT PUT 1 SENTENCE, and then make someone click through 15 pages.

what an ass >_<

maxcer6183d ago

"Good god, first lets talk about the site, the fact that you have 15 pages with 2 lines..."

that's as far as i got and you made me lol, bubbles. i didn't even try to go through the rest of that mess. hell, there is more text on the N4G story than the actual article

EpicGamerSwordsman6183d ago

Its Completely Opposite When it comes to PSN Subscribers,There are over 14 Millions PSN Subsribers. Why would people make 10 Accounts when PSN is free, only ppl on xbox LIVE do that because some users don't have money to buy 1 year subscritions & want to experience online Multiplayer the way it was meant to be, FREE. xbox LIVE has about 17 million people, thats really impressive but how many of those are fake made acc's with the same person using 'em? ?, honestly im no fanboy of any console, i have an xbl account with a yr of gold but you're making psn sound like a joke with only a few ppl playing. & Basically its only necessary to make multiple PSN accounts with the same person using them is for regional purposes, Killzone 2 demo launched in the UK PS Store as a regular demo the same day it was launched for gamestops ripoff voucher for pre-ordering it.

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JohnnyHalo6183d ago

Enough facts to prove the winner.

BYE6183d ago

Netflix is useless outside the US...

skip2mylou6183d ago

you are so dam stupid NetFlex doesnt work outside of the states people use the cheap bootleg where you see them for $5 which i have actually done

MovieScouse0076183d ago

Netflix is useless IN the USA!

Syronicus6183d ago

Use it through the PlayOn app I bought for 40 bucks. You can download PlayOn to your PC and play all of your instant watch Netflix movies right on your PS3 and for those without Xbox Live, you can use it on your 360 as well. No need to pay an extra 50 bucks a year to see your Netflix videos on your 360, just a one time fee of 40 bucks.

http://www.themediamall.com...

This makes the whole, "Xbox 360 has Netflix" argument a moot point.

KingKionic 6183d ago

Netflix is integrated into xbox live. It`s a great addition to the xbox live service.

onanie6183d ago

The fact is, PlayOn actually makes the point moot.

IdleLeeSiuLung6183d ago

PlayON is a good workaround, but requires your PC to be on and might for some have a complicated setup. Furthermore, when Netflix decides to upgrade or change their service, will PlayOn work then?

It is a good alternative, but not a replacement. On the other hand, I didn't see too much good stuff on netflix streaming anyhow. Anyone care to point out anything good?

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xg-ei8ht6183d ago

socomnick

If SONY counts them. Hey it's the numbers game again, ok i'm willing if you are.

M$ states 30million consoles sold.

How many are replacements. How many people have bought a second one because of the first being broken, or sometimes dodgy.

I know many have a backup 360.

Have they really sold 30mil. na, don't be silly.

That 33% was going on for quite some time.

After that it was down to 15%

And even now it borders around 5-10%

Around 3000 xbox360 per store were being sent back to M$. $10million dollars worth from EB aus.

And you think M$ are really at 30million.

If the real numbers came out, you'd know the real sales numbers are about 24million.

jib6183d ago

"How many are replacements. How many people have bought a second one because of the first being broken, or sometimes dodgy."

UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ Xbox 360 ------ 679.6K
UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ PS3 ----------- 334.4K

with multiplatform numbers almost always happening on a monthly basis like that ^^^, i would answer your question with a 'not a lot of people'

-MD-6183d ago

Yes they sold 30 million the warranty just recently ended during the first 3 years people were getting refurbished consoles not brand new ones.

prunchess6183d ago

UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ Xbox 360 ------ 679.6K
UFC 2009 UNDISPUTED THQ PS3 ----------- 334.4K

I think that says more about the 360 owner than the 360 install base. There is a far better range of games available for the PS3 also. Couple that with the PS3 having a more mature user base....

xg-ei8ht is right. jib - How many people do you think had to go out and buy another 360 due to the failure rate it has?

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Omega46183d ago

The fact that there are more PSN memberships then PS3's sold speaks volumes.

Syronicus6183d ago

Considering that the PSP is part of that user base. Granted, not nearly as many as with the PS3 but it's cool that they have their online service available for both the console and PSP.

IMHO these numbers are great for developers since they can see just how big the user base is for a particular online service. At this point in the game, both Xbox live and PSN are attractive services for the developers looking to sell something on.

Immortal Kaim6183d ago

I'm sorry, I have never seen such a blatant grab for website hits in all my life... 15 pages with about 2-3 lines of text on each, this could have been condensed into 1-2 pages easily.

Nice work Gameplayer, you have officially turned me off your website. Anyone from the site care to give an explanation for this practice, cause it is quite frankly disgraceful.

prunchess6183d ago

I give it a miss. It's a garbage site that constantly posts flame-bait articles.

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot19d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle18d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7718d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer27d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde25d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy26d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12525d ago (Edited 25d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7727d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga27d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199226d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga26d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac26d ago (Edited 26d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman26d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger26d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box27d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion26d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7227d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7526d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit26d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14927d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7727d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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