Why would they be against selling them at the end of the month? you really think the big-wigs over at Sony are so wrapped up in this one-upsmanship, that fanboys at n4g are wrapped up in, that they bypass all logic and don't look at big picture numbers and factor in the fact that these numbers are for just a week? NPD does not in any way dictate how well a game is going to sell.

By the way, to all the people who were talking about "haha ps3 owners don't by games. how does Sucker Punch even make money?". Well let's really think about this. The average ps3 game costs like 15 million dollars to make or something like that. Now i've never seen any costs for Infamous but let's take that average, and we'll even tack on a lil more saying 20million. That's just for the game costs, i'm going to assume Sony covered marketing costs on this one. so at 20 million dollars, and 60 a pop for each copy of the game, SP only has to sell roughly 330,000 copies. And it already has 175,000 in just the last week of may in NA alone. I'd say it probably sold that many also around the rest of the world (remember, there is more to the world than NA) in that same amount of time. which would put it at 350,000. so chances are they could very well have already recouped their costs and are making a profit on this game. (figuring of course that sony did in fact put up the money for advertising on this one. and of course just using rough estimates here)

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@Marius
I don't expect it to sell anymore than it did here for the month of June. Games tend to take a big drop in sales after that initial week. Though, like KZ2, i would probably expect this to sell almost as much as it did in this week of May. Probably something like 150,000 in June, putting it at over 300,000 in NA (which to tie in with the cost argument would almost recoup their costs in NA alone--using those estimates that is). But it will continue to sell for a while (and sell well in other regions) like most PS3 exclusives do. I'd expect this to hit the million mark (worldwide) before summer is even over. (and that's using fairly reserved numbers seeing as how this probably sells even more in europe than in NA)

they do it so that their big games can appear in the top 10 twice. You'll see it with it's big first day/week sales (like above) to get into the top 10, then you'll see it again next month with 4 weeks worth of sales.

Odds are they won't take the top spot as often, but they'll have games appearing 2-3 times in top 10 sales for the month.

I agree it did do very well. Although, I sold Killzone 2 for inFamous and it was totally worth it. They still hadn't fixed the 1/3 second lag in Killzone 2 even after all the updates, I couldn't ever get used to it so I simply sold the game.

I would expect more like Crackdown sales. New openworld IP with popular game's Multiplayer Beta bundled. Both the PS3 and 360 having similar (just over 8 Million) userbase in US at time of release.

Crackdown sold about roughly 300,000 units in the same time as inFamous sold 176k.

Still losing money yet they manage to kick out the best games. MS cut the price down to nothing and they can barely give the 360 away.

@talltony...

I am a Sony leg humper and I hate sales since the PS3 is always dead last.

I hate sales because it directly show how many people agree that the game is actually great and not just in my mind and a few other Sony leg humpers that think that anything Sony makes is AAA.

That's right boy... Sales are a true indicator of an opinion shared by an x amount of people...

Sales may not indicate if a game is good for you personally.. but it shows that lots of people may think it is... at least to the point that they are willing to spend money in it.

So, Sales are a more reliable indicator that the game is good... than a few SOny leg humpers that approve anything SOny make...

morgan, thats what you say every month for like the past 2 years.

but yes sony still loses money on the ps3 and do even worse with those great games.

npd, sony fanatics worst nightmare. lol

sorry i play great games not great sales. :)

" i play great games not great sales" we know the ps3 has great games we also know that those great games dont have great sales. we see it every month.

the 360 has great games too but guess what, it has great sales too.

what happened to ki ki ki kill zone 2? all out of power i guess...

BladeStar did you say "LEGHUMP" Ill take you up on that my little hot RRoD tamale.

What do you expect great sakes for the last console this generation, please give me a break crap its crap even when the sony leg humpers defended and states that their crap dont stink. Geeeeezz, go figure on the humorous brainless wave of sony followers. If einstein was still alive, he would most likely die again out off hard attack due to the morons of sony followers.

And MORGANFAIL still doesn't have a clue ....

Wii 289K
Xbox 360 175K
PlayStation 2 117K
PlayStation 3 131K

Are you stupid or something? Did I say that xbox 360 didnt have great games? You are so quick to stick up for your favorite console! All I meant was that I dnt care about great sales! I care about great games! And there you go dissing a playstation 3 exclusive for no reason, Yea you sure are unbiased! Grow UP!

"Nice numbers Infamous!!! /facepalm" ROTFLMMFAO :D

33% failure rate
35 xb360 consoles per store per month average
12 months
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Gamestop (6,000) - 792,000
Walmart (3,350) - 464,310
Best Buy (1010) - 139,986

1,396,296 RRoD units initially.
460,777 of those units RRoD'd again.
+152,056 of the 2nd units RRoD'd
_____________________________ _____

2,009,129 RRoD units total in the U.S.

NOT Including:
- Europe, Asia, and South America
- Many other store franchises
- The units Microsoft handled themselves
- 3rd, 4th, 5th, etc, replacements

and yet.. It still outsells the ps3. What does that say about sony and its playstation? Obviously something is going wrong.

would it be fair to say that if infamous had been released on the 360 we would have seen 3-4 times as many sales for that title?

Developers are sure to take note!

who cares if the PS3 is catching up?

considering the price, sony wants it to be the premium experience. and it is!

i also consider macs better than windows machines, even though they only have 10% of the market.

There's hasn't been a single title that's sold 3 times, let alone 4 times better on the 360 vs the PS3. Sometimes your borderline lucid but this is just delusional.

You are right, darkie.
It would have 'only' sold twice as many.

my point was that a new IP can have long legs. Want other examples?
LBP, Motorstorm, Warhawk etc...

PS3 has been outselling the x360 in Japan in May each week by at least 10k a week. Thats more than 40k more PS3 in Japan in May. So if we add NA and Japan they are pretty much neck and neck for May.

So it really comes down to Europe and who is wining Europe between MS and Sony is anyone's guess as we don't have concrete figures for Europe.

So even with the price as is the PS3 is doing fine but if Sony drops the PS3 price soon it will no doubt put it over the x360 no doubt.

However, Sony will not do such a thing until they reduce the cost of manufacturing of the PS3. Sony is focusing on profitiability more than Market share which they should through these tough financial times.

As for infamous. I said it many times. Infamous is the Uncharted of 2009. It will score,liked, and sale likewise to Uncharted. In other words. It will make the same impact as Uncharted did back in 2007. Both are brilliant games.

Infamous is a great game. Once people see Ghostbusters in action on the PS3 I think it will get decent sales. Im playing it now and I can't put it down. Those guys at 3wave sure had NO PROBLEM coding for the cell did they? waves to valve and that overeating blowhard.

Yeay my Halo 3 name scares a lot of fanboys in here. :)

Yeah I'm not surprised

At school all I hear people talking about is Hey dude did you check out UFC? It's awesome! So damn realistic!

Even though a lot of my friends wrestle, but either way, that is one popular game.

Montrealien, I challenge you to a Pokemon...wait wrong battle.

We still have to play some game together. >.>
You crazy ninja. I could never catch you online. u_u

lol, I'll be playing some bomberman tonight on the psn...woot!?

uhh...

woot?

oh f*ck it, its bomberman...lol

agreed

Nintendo 923k
Sony 348k

Your point?

Wow, so I guess according to Obama the 360 has been beating the PS3 with no AAA games at all for the year.

I guess it was worse than I thought for Sony.

lol

It's all about price and advertising. The 360 is significantly cheaper and MS did a good job in advertising its console and games. That's all.

Sony has all the great exclusives but it is doing a poor job in advertising. But why I do care about sales so much when I know ps3 exclusives are beating 360 exclusives by a mile?

I really like chatting on live with the guys sometimes we do silly little things.

"but pwny sales dont matter remember?! or is this the hypocrite side of you..
stop making sony look so desperate for a price cut.."

desperate for a price cut? its already set stupid. their goal is to sell 13 million consoles for the fiscal year you c*nt.

so pwny's my name now? unoriginal coming from a person whos name is air1? why is your name air1? is it because you want to "fly" away in the air? get it? "fly" away like a G@y? you should just call yourself G@y1, or #1G@y.

"bu bu bu if the ps3 came out at the same time or if the ps3 costed x amount it would be a different story. as of today you are preaching the wrong book get over it.."

bu bu bu bu bu.... stupid, its going to happen. why do you think they are expecting 13 million sales for the fiscal year? oh right you dont read business spreadsheets...

yea, pwny is your name now. it just fits you better :)

fly away in the air? no i dont get it, looks like you are quite familiar with the word air and gay, you must hang out with a soft crowd..

no fvcking duh the ps3 is going have a price cut, so will the wii eventually, hell micro just might have a cut in plan too. i dont need no spread sheet to know that this happens every gen. it's just that you come in here every month talking about just wait for the price cut and this game and home etc. those day came and left, nothing has changed. why dont you change you roll and just WAIT till something happens. maybe you wont look as stup!d as you have been for the past 2 years.

no matter what exclusive you decide to yell out the ps3 is in 3rd plain and simple no spin. why dont you just sit back and wait your turn to talk sh!t if it ever comes around cause fact is the ps3 is in 3rd and that makes you the minority.

well for you to respond again means I struct one of your nerves as well, LMAO.

"fly away in the air? no i dont get it, looks like you are quite familiar with the word air and gay, you must hang out with a soft crowd.."

ok air1, spread your arms, and start flapping your hands with your wrists. then walk around like that on the street, what does that look like to you? a F@g.

"no matter what exclusive you decide to yell out the ps3 is in 3rd plain and simple no spin. why dont you just sit back and wait your turn to talk sh!t if it ever comes around cause fact is the ps3 is in 3rd and that makes you the minority."

PS3 maybe in 3rd, but it has superior games, much superior than 360 games.
http://www.gamespot.com/new...

poor air1, he doesnt even know what "flying" away means..... he must of hit a nerve himself since he keeps responding. if he continues to persist, he will run out of bubbles and not talk anymore.

Lol... you linked us to a page written by some analyst.

Well I feel from observing sales of the platform for almost two years I am being objective. Those who are disagreeing have yet to speak on the aspects I've brought out, and how they do not apply in this case. But either way, it's Sony's issue. They make most of their money from software sales so they can have less of an impact financially when they cut price or make more of a profit. The less the sales, the later that price cut will come.

Have you not noticed a trend in ps3 games....just like ps2 games they all don't sell a million in a week im sorry 90 percent of games don't do that im sorry...you aren't honest your a fanboy with you MS Goggles on....We both shouldn't give a damn if it sold well....only if its a good game

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U know PlayStation generation (tech gen) is a general term referring to a age group after generation X...named after the PlayStation because it being one of the most successful pieces of tech during that time

That's quite strange. And here I was reading the same thing a year ago when people were accusing me of being a Sony fanboy. And this coming from someone called PLAYSTATION GENERATION.

Speaking of trends, have you noticed how foolish it is to still compare this generation to the last? Last time I checked Sony were behind Microsoft and significantly behind Nintedo. In what chapter can I find that in the history of the PS2? It's never happened. This is a new challenge with new dynamics. Before using history as a template, let's settle down and actually see one console take over the other shall we? Who do you think will be the happier when reading these sales figures? Sony? Microsoft, Nintendo? Now consider their situations and guess again.

How has kz2 and lpb sold over an extended period of time?

I'm curious because I have yet to see either of those games return to to the top 20 list in either the media crate charts, or in ndp.

The only games that I will admit to as having long legs this generation are COD4, l4d, and wii fit. Even halo 3, gta and MGS (arguably the largest of the last generation franchises) didn't have long legs IMO.

Ultimito or w/e, please provide some sales data to back up what you're saying.

Not sure Meus. I can only guess, that PS3 owners are more on the slow train. I'd like the age profile of PS3 customers, I believe there might be a higher percentage of 30/35+ people in there (in fact, I only know people closer to 40 - not counting my boys 8 & 11). Some of those play or play not. Its just not a priority. While I think I'd consider them more hard core (they like shooters and such), they might not invest that much time in playing. Other things are more important. So, demographic would be very interesting to know.

And then, I still think the current PS3 owners are the former PS2 crowed. And the PS3 still lacks the diverse game library the PS2 had, especially the more kids friendlier games. R&C the only one left from that era, but where is a (pixar like) HD Sly Cooper or Jak & Dexter (or any new character for that market). Playstation gamers seam to have a greater diversity in their tastes as well, I guess. Smaller die hard fans of one genre or game makes a lower number on single games sales, but the over all is not that bad.

Everything is pure speculation but could explain the customer behavior.

your a fool

I've been calling this out for the better part of 18 months and I see no changes in the future. People here can keep waiting for NPD figures to be in favour for the PS3 forever if they like. Everyone else just buys games and plays them, me included. There is little point arguing whether 10 is a bigger number than 9.

As long as people are happy with their games, that's all that matters. Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo don't give a flying (beep) about our arguments on whom is actually doing better or not, although I feel a even a child could bear witness to that.

You do know that a game that sells a million in its lifetime is considered to be a PS greatest hits right?

You do know that infamous is a new IP in a time where there is alot more quality games on the PS3 compare to 2007 right?.

You do know that most exclusives don't sell a million in its first month right?.

You do know that Infamous is the fastest selling PS3 exclusive new IP in NA right?.

You do know that there are still 7 million more x360 in NA comapre to PS3 right?.

How many copies did Mass effect or L4D sold in NA in 6 days with 13 million x360?. 300k, 400k?. Now put that into perspective.

look, i am not trying to spin or gloss over anything. Sony i can see now needs to advertise their games more. We all know this now.

But for you to say that it is dreadful for Infamous is grossly wrong.

Do you know that Uncharted sold 117k in its first month in NA and now stand near 3 million sold right?.

Look. In the end. Great game sells. Infameous is an excellent game like Uncharted, actually Infameous is alot more fun compare to Uncharted as the gameplay is better imo. It will sell. You don't need to worry about it.

I agree with Meus, here, though.

We can lie to ourselves and pretend the superior PS3 titles get a recognition through record sales numbers. But fact is, this does not happen. The games don't sell bad, still satisfying, I can understand, but nothing which really hits you off the chair.

This might still be just normal situation (which I honestly believe it is. Its just normal).

We were hoping KZ2 would dwarf those other games. It sold great, but not exceptional - for THE PS3 title.

Can anyone honestly, without spinning the numbers, tell me, why that is?

This has nothing to do with quality or if I am unhappy with sales or not (why would I care, I like to play these games), but what's the secret, that 2M run out an buy Gears, even though there's nothing special about that game. Just out of curiosity.

In case of inFamous, to be honest, this game you do appreciate after you play it for a while. But how would you know, without having done that ?

damn Meus.. ever since you've had constructive criticism for the PS3 your bubbles dropped immensely. It's weird seeing your screenname without 10 bubbles attached to it

Xi, i said these games will eventually sell well overtime. I never said I had sales data.

And I will laugh at the trolls who think disagreeing is suppose to make me change my comments.

People who usually disagree and can't say why they disagree are cowards. Think about that one.

You keep saying that ps3 games have legs.

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News...
I believe it's post 1.19:
"PS3 exclusives have always had long legs. They don't have to sell five million or two million at launch to prove that they can sell well."

Unless you can provide supporting evidence that the sales of ps3 games tend to continue selling beyond that of it's competitors then you're just blowing smoke. You're making a prediction but spouting it as if it's a known fact. You no better then Patcher (or w/e that analyst name is).

You are known to be supportive of one console to an extreme, known to make multiple accounts, manipulate the bubble system, and being called out on it several times you even left the site hoping people would forget. You've even been banned to the open zone before.

Why don't you create a list of best selling exclusives for each console. The compare each game to one another based on the initial sales, followed by monthly sales after wards. Feel free to use vgchartz if you want.

I'm sure you'll find out soon enough, that ps3 games, don't have those legs you keep mentioning, those games are the ones with constant advertisements or word of mouth. Mario kart wii, left 4 dead, wii fit, cod4, wow etc.

Sorry but Call of Duty 2 launched with the system... that game was brilliant and did very well as was PGR3 which also sold very well for a launch title.

Another high profile title was GRAW(Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter) that came out in March of that year on 360 and went on to sell 2 1/4 million copies. Along with the titles mentioned above.