Or use your standard controller, no one is stopping you.

This paragraph is priceless.

"I thought Project Natal might be good for reading big body movements but not for finer finger movements."

"Theoretically, I got that wrong too, Tsunoda told me, though he didn't have a way to prove it to me there. The stick-figure skeletons that Natal recognize us as did not have fingers. Each one had a short stick for each hand. I saw no fingers, so I assumed it could not see my fingers. There seemed to be no way for Natal to know, say, how many fingers I was holding up. If it could, then it could maybe read hand signs issued to squadmates in military first-person shooters. I questioned Natal's ability to detect those finer movements. Tsunoda said that such detection was possible, though the sensitivity would be different at different distances. He thought my fingers idea was do-able."

that $hit is impossible! some of the worlds most advanced cameras can barely track more than one face at a time!

and you mean to tell me natal(a video game console camera) can track 20 or more fingers!

edit: after reading mabey it can, but it sure wont be cost effective!

edit again: i retract my last statement that $hit is impossible

What's the point of the tech, if I can just use what I already have? If the rebuttal is "Use a steering wheel" or "Use your controller", then those things are stopping me from Natal. Yes, it's cool. But I don't see it as practical in its applications as Nintendo or Sony. And don't forget price...if you think a device with 3 cameras and 2 processors is going to be $50 or even $100, you're in for a surprise.

Almost forgot..."Use a plate"....LMFAO.

Tsk Tsk Tsk... such a silly boy.

Seeing fingers as it relates to gameplay controls.

The camera in concert with the software programming that the built-in processor works with. The tech demo wasn't set up to include fingers in the software programming for gameplay control. Duhhh!

Sony's motion controllers aren't that innovative, but they can be used for hardcore games, as they combine a standart gamepad with motion sensing, please describe to me, how are you going to play an FPS, an adventure, an RPG with just a camera, no way without any kind of buttons. The Wiimote has been used for FPS games, but, it's the Wii, if Sony would show me a fantasy game where I can use the motion controllers to control the characters arms and do damage based on collision detection, not scripted moves, I'm sold.

PS: The on-paper prototype of Sony's motion wand has an analog stick and the standard gamepad buttons. I own all PlayStation consoles but if they really show me something hardcore with this thing, I would actually buy a PSEye and those controllers, before that the EyeToy was like what Natal is about to become, a casual toy.

Sh!t cant even track a leg, lmao, track every finger, gtfo M$hat, lies til the day they are gone from this world.

Who says you can't use a controller at the same time natal is tracking your head movements, peeking around corners etc...?

I will create an example in photoshop.

Ok, the way IR will work for depth is that the brighter the object is, the closer it is, simply because it will detect the reflected IR light. It's kind of like how "nightshot" for video cameras work. The use an IR.

Anyway, this picture will show that the blackspace between fingers allows them to be "seen" while if someone had their hand together, fingers cannot be "seen". So while their statement was correct, it CAN see fingers, it wont be able to detect discrepancies in movement.

http://i735.photobucket.com...

If your going to use natal to peek around corners then your not going to be looking at the screen are you, so that fails before it begins.

@above

so as long as you keep your palms facing completely at the camera you should be good, have them at a slight angle, youve got the glove scenario, again its too much to try to achieve, theyre blowing steam up everyones a$$es.

What are you talking about? Move neck to the side and the camera follows suit?! That doesn't appeal to you at all? All while holding the controller? I think they could do some cool things with this if used in subtle effective manners. I don't need Wii Bowling 2.0.

1st how do you move your neck to the side, if you meant tilting your head, no i dont want my head tilted while playing, turning your head like i said takes your eyes off the screen, again no thnaks.

We knew you were stupid, but not that stupid. Go to the open zone. You're junk is good there.

Well it just so happen to be that even Wii-motion + should be better for use in hardcore games then project Natal, so i dont see what you are lolling at. Btw we all know that if Sony announcend Natal and MS announced the PS motion control you would be all over the motion control and say how Natal only could be used in casual games etc etc

no but they say you can see fingers, so apparently 360 owners can use fingers to do some very naughty things.