I'm not trying to be negative here, but that didn't really impress me at all. Games have been offering real-time reflections, dynamic lighting etc. for a while now, and even when they got the camera closer, it didn't look any more realistic (I may even say LESS realistic) than the car models featured in Project GOtham racing 3, or F1 Championship. The wheels weren't grabbing a ton of reflections or lighting, and the car had a flat finish for the most part. there were a few reflections, but nothing worth drooling over.
Ray tracing is an inefficient way to get complex effects on screen. I'd be happy with some developer trickery that may not be as "realistic" but produces nearly the same quality graphics.

you wont be seeing raytracing on consoles till next generation, it's great to see it being done but, it just wont happen for a long time.

IBM's raytracer sucks though! It's a system resource hog. Autodesk's Mental Ray is a much more efficient Ray Tracer and it produced more realistic outputs

Anyone's who's tinkered in 3D modelling/animation knows full well that ray-tracing is one of (if not the) most cpu-intensive rendering procedures...We're talking minutes to bust out a single frame for a moderately complex rendering.

So if the PS3 (granted three of them, in this case) is able to calculate raytracing (in 720 HD!) in REAL time (30fps?), the Playstation 3 (or the Cell processor, at least) is a behemoth of a machine indeed.

I have a hard time seeing raytracing being implemented in full-blown games any time soon...as it's way too CPU intensive. Although the spectacular lighting displayed in the LittleBig Planet showcase unveiled at GDC has kept me wondering whether it was raytracing.

Hmmm...you never know!

sony is probally going to make a computer generated online game that is run by how many ps3's are linked together.creating that cyberworld that ken kutaragi was talking about.the more systems linked,the more graphically impressive the game will get.(check out GS CUBE-siggraph)

it's why cell is so powerful.it can work together with other ps3s that have cell in it.truthfully, any product with cell in it.it's why sony made it.distributed computing.cell makes other chips look inferior.same with the cpu in 360.not to bag on it.but it's the truth.

another example is folding home.ps3 makes other systems look like a joke at number crunching.it's only a matter of time when companies start realizing what cell can do.i would say the surface of cell hasn't even been scratched.

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Now we have to own a PS3 to read news in threads with PS3 related topics. lol the moronic reasoning never stops. The guy below you isn't too bright anyhow. Had to stop the vid because it was so exciting and.

I'm sorry but what am i supposed to be impressed by? A car with lighting and shadows?

Now Iam really proud of my playstation 3 :D I dont know what they are doing but Iam shure that they are doing stuff that Xbox 360 and Nintendo Wii aint capable of.

Not so much the Ray tracing but demonstrating that multiple PS3's can be used with software without any Hardware modification. One can assume that if Sony really wanted to they could update their own OS to allow SMP among multiple processors.

I like to see Sony give it a shot. Just like PC games, take the same game and add SMP to the game for those who can use it. Could be an in game setting to improve performance and graphics in the game.

I think that the demonstration was just too cool and I would definitely be on my way to the store right now if SMP was supported with a really cool game.

It's a pain to render ray trace reflect/refract... why the graphic is not impressive? it's because there is not many environment there guys... it's reflected the environment, where games now is mostly... using tricky engine maybe... I'm not sure...
but it's good enough, but when this technology especially mentral-ray anything with ray... is absolutely stunning... then what you see now is just... is not good as when you see at the first time...

Play Beyond

Can someone download this or something and post it elsewhere for me? I can't see Youtube at work. It sucks.

well is nice to have this monster at home, i mean PS3:)!

i have no idea what this means, someone please explain

That Big Forza 2 set up just got OWNED...

i have no idea what any of that stuff means, but i know its impressive to generate that only using SPEs

I pretty sure that Bungie is gonna be using ray-tracing in Halo 3, though i might have to check that out. Secondly, both the Xbox 360 and PS3 could do ray-tracing but it would be at the cost of someting else. I have no idea PS3007 what the hell your talking about but Forza Motorsports 2 will be an excellent game, i'm still not sure how this owned the game.

Is this the 4D 200fps 1080p game they were shouting about prior to the Ps3's release? So now they want you to pay not 600$ but 1800$ to play "next gen" games lol! Kidding...

But...Show us some games instead. The machine is out and they're acting like it's not released yet. Graphics demonstrations etc. This just demonstrates what the Ps3 can't do unless it's linked to two other units. Hook up 3 x 360 and I bet you get the same results. If not, at least you get better looking actual games. Put the graphics in the games instead of in silly demos. Put up or shut up!

LOL gang of idiots huh. Hmmm...

I want to have that linux version IBM has. Pronto!!

when he is interviewed or makes comments.but the man is a hardware genius.he knows what should be for the next systems and computers even though he may not be able to get his point across publically.even masa chatani tried to present that point at E3 2005.look at this vid:

http://www.gametrailers.com... is the e3 05 presentation)

masa talks about cyberworlds and the power of the cell and what it can do.it almost seems he's talking about something sony is working on but is not ready to show.just like "home."sony never shows something unless it is fully functional.i hate that.but i understand why they hide things.if they were creating ray tracing products you would never know because they wouldn't tell you.same with the new eyetoy2.notice how it vanished since e3 as well as eye of judgement?

the ones bagging this demo just don't know.they get bored unless it is a game in their face.it's sad really.the tech demos show what possibly can be done with game systems and their applications(example-the early unreal engine demos before assets were used for gears of war).this is one of them.

open your eyes people.

JENZO,360 can't do what cell is doing.you can't link 360s together to make this possible.cell was made for this.it's why they call it the broadband engine.the cell processors can be linked to work together.online or offline.

10 year life span starting to look a little less "out there"

Nice! Another useless video that will never be used in a game.

I read a lot about this topic and it's cool and all. It can also same lots of companies (in the film industry) some time by rendering faster; though I believe most if not all will buy a super IBM computer instead of putting 5-10 PS3 together. It's obvious that this was design to advertise the PS3 and it has no practical usage.

To be honest with you Sony should probable release this application in the near future so Sony fanboys can go to the store and buy 3-4 PS3 so they can try themself how cool it is to see all the lighting $h!t going on at a frame rate of 4-5 frames per second.

Practical for games? uhhh NO! Practical for game developers and companies generating CGI? Yes.

Sorry to burst your bubble but you will not see this level of "Real-time Ray-tracing" on a video game console for a long time.

To be honest with you there is no other use for this type of experiments other than hype the PS3 and to make Sony fanboys feel good about their purchase.

Sony did the same thing back when the PS2 was release:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/...

"Scientists at the US National Center for Supercomputing Applications, (NCSA) have linked together 70 PlayStation 2s to find out how good they are at crunching numbers.

The machines were linked together as part of a project to investigate how to cut the cost of creating powerful clusters of computers.

Now the scientists are refining the Sony supercomputer and seeing how it compares to other clusters around the world.
"

More $h!tty experiments for the fanboys:

http://www.g4tv.com/screens...

"Deep in the heart of Champaign-Urbana, Illinois, some very smart people have linked together a room full of Sony PlayStation 2 game consoles. They use the cluster as a tool for scientific computing and high-resolution visualization, harnessing the unique properties of the PS2's main computer chip. Machine rooms are staffed 24 hours a day."

and even more crap....

http://news.zdnet.com/2100-...

A U.S. research center has clustered 70 Sony PlayStation 2 game consoles into a Linux supercomputer that ranks among the 500 most powerful in the world.

You fking fanboys never learn. Name one practical use from all these PS2 experiments and cluster bla bla bla performed on the PS2?

Did I go back in time? ohh look Sony is doing the samething again? Ohh I get it, they are hopping people do the samething they did back when the PS2 was launched.

I can almost copy and paste the things (scientific bla bla) said about the PS3. Sony does understimate the power of google search.
You don't believe me try it yourself.

Google search "PS2 super computer" and you will get more than 2,160,000 results.

If you are going to buy the PS3 buying for what it is.. a game console.

Edit:

@SmokeyMcBearc, you are very welcome. I have a question for you. As matter of fact I have 2 questions.
1) How did you personally or anybody else benefit from these unpractical scientific ps2(super computer) experiments? Where is the PS2 CPU today? If you can't give me an answer I thank you for Volunteering in showing the rest of the world a very important lesson in marketing 101 when it comes to the average (non-smart) consumer. What we see here is an example of bull-$h!tting(hype) marketting and victim falling for it. It always works, “Make sh!t look cool and the ignorant will buy it”.
2) Do you know why they call Sony fanboys lemmings?

one more unit and I can begin running my own Raytracing simulations.lol

#28.) The Executive, your comment was right on target buddy. Right on target.

Ehh...something wierd just happened....a/w apologies for dblpost

one more unit and I can begin running my own Raytracing simulations.lol

#28.) The Executive, your comment was right on target buddy. Right on target.

*The Good news and the Not-so-good news
-- The Good
*-- increasing Parallelism in CPU/GPU
*-- Workloads -- graphics and GP -- are highly parallel
*-- Moore's law and the "capability curve" are still our friends
-- The Bad
* -- Parallel Programming is HARD (especially in a serial language/environment)
* -- Language and Tool support for parallelism is poor
* --Computer Science Education is not focused on parallel programming (needs to be undergrad level and not grad level)

so the good is that distributed computing(parallel work) is a beast.the bad is that not a lot of programmers know how to do it.they lack knowledge.which is kind of bad.

sony tried some of it with ps2.sega even did it somewhat with the sega saturn.it hurt sega more because they wouldn't teach others how to program for the multiple chips.sony did and you still get games like ffxii and god of war 2 seven years later.multiple processors working together works.one can't outdo multiple.unless your bruce lee or your name ends in li,lee or chan(LOL).joking.

sony will show why bluray is needed.
they will show why cell is needed.
they will show why the hard drive is needed even though they didn't make it standard in ps2.
sony will show why hdmi is needed for the best picture.
sony will show why the eyetoy is next gen.
they will show why they are going all out this time with online.

it just takes time.my prediction?:

E3 will be shocking.and those who have doubts will lose it in july and afterwards.

and bladestar,the reason sony did those experiments was that they knew their next chip would duplicate those experiments.which is cell.they wanted to know what the results would be of parallel number crunching.

sony is a hardware company.that's why they have some of the best electronics.their tvs,cameras,their game systems.they have a lead in that field just like microsoft has a lead in the software field.you'll see soon enough.

much more simple than the way i said it.i can get long winded sometimes.but you are correct.the ones hating on cell just don't know what it can do.they want results now.because microsoft is giving them now.but now won't last.because later is coming.they just can't see it.

sony is not worried because they are pretty much where they want to be compared to ps2.they have no real need to rush.they don't need to shout out numbers but hide the real figures.they don't need to call themselves the leader.they don't need to spend millions in viral marketing.and they don't need to abandon their customers to get the jump or redo systems that aren't future proof.the price will drop and the marketing will push ps3 right out the door.

it's only a matter of time and during that sony continues to rake in the money with ps2 and psp.

Its impressive if you know what ray tracing is! and Aeroglyphics
explains it well enough, to know its one of the most cpu intensive apps there is. Its all about the numbers baby!!!

Anwayz, xbox360, whether link with another 2 360's would be pretty fast, but nowhere near the cell.

For anyone with a ps3 at home, be glad to know, so far, ps3 is only using 35% - 40% using both rsx and cell. (not with games released) but with heavenly sword, Killzone2. So In time you'll see the difference ayear makes(no xbox360 pun intended)

For the detailed explanation. Back to that in a second.
I actually replied to the wrong shadowgamer post. I meant to reply to 33 where he discussed all the lack of knowledge,tools of paralell programming.

I was just stating that the 360 also makes use of multiple cpus so when better tools, knowledge about paraell/multithreading programming are available shouldn't the 360 benefit as well? I mean people assume that only the ps3 will benefit from this and that somehow the 360 will standstill.

Back to your statement. It sounds like a very difficult thing to accomplish, and it may be a little shortsigted from me but possibly a bad architecture to follow. The way to attract developers to use your hardware/libraries/etc...is to either show things not possible by other tools/products or make things a whole lot easier for them. It sounds like Sony hasn't done either yet.

For a gaming device the PS3 only has more power in a theoretical sense right now. Why do I say that? Because no one not even Sony themselves has shown a game where you could say to yourself that it is superior to the 360. I still haven't seen anything better than Gears, and stuff like Crysis pretty much blows away both what the 360 and PS3 are doing. If the Cell processor is so superior to a traditional CPU why can't it compete with high end PC's that are out today?

Sorry to all for straying off topic I am just curious as to why everyone assumes that in 2-3 years people will be able to unlock the power of the PS3, when right now Sony can't do it themselves.

the difference is that 360's chips weren't built like cell.even with tricore at 3.2 ghrz. each,they're all off the shelf chips.ibm built the chip but microsoft didn't go for innovation.they went for efficiency and ease of development.it also makes no sense to microsoft on linking 360s together.or linking 360s together online to distribute the work.

sony on the other hand built cell to do crazy types of work.and each spe runs at 3.2 ghrz each to help the main processor which is also 3.2.never mind that it's built in the ps3.it sounds ridiculous on why you would need this much power in one chip.but their experiments showed they needed that power to duplicate the 3d cg quality graphics.GS cube proved that with 16 ps2s running in parallel.that cyberworld that ken k was talking about is not that farfetched.

the question is what type of cyberworld sony's programmers and IBMs programmers could create?what would you do?would it even have a story?would they allow negative interaction between players?i think HOME is an experiment on a 3d modeled cyberworld.HOME does not have to be limited to just chat and sharing content with your list of friends.if the physics is already built in,then you could create racing,flying boating,cities,shopping malls,etc. all in that cyberworld.ps3 may not be sufficient for this but the experiment will be ran by sony.and i dare say,may have to be purchased later on.

cell will prove itself.programmers will get the hang of it eventually.i also want to know if and when sony will use the hd camera not just to video conference and produce your own user created content,but i also want to see the eyetoy camera used to control the XMB as well as linking the eyetoy camera and making it recognize the motion controller,essentially making nintendo's wii remote obsolete.

edit:scrumptious what you don't get is that each chip on the 360 separately are not that powerful.you're one of the people that don't "get it."together they are,but the 360 cpu is not as powerful as cell at doing parallel work.as eljuggernaught said,cell by itself is powerful.working with other cells,they create a supercomputer.if you would set aside your fanboyism,you would see that.

the Ps3 is powerful and when its in a group its a super computer its been proven plenty of times. its an advanced piece of technology

so it takes 3 ps3's to do this not impressed at all!

Get over yourself. The Cell is just a CPU. "Broadband Engine" is a Sony hype marketing term, just like "Emotion Engine" and "Reality Synthesizer". Sony sure has you hooked.

Sure, the 360 CPU is "off the shelf". Just go to CompUSA and ask for a triple core 3.2GHZ dual thread CPU. It's just as "off the shelf" as your Cell, which has a PPU almost equal to one 360 core, and seven (six usable)primitive co-processors. You know I could go on for days about the bottlenecks and throw quote after quote, but you'll just refer to the PS3 box and state those facts back.

Please spare us of your industry and tehcnology analysis, and go play Home-O.

I hear the Ps4 is on its way...get ready for 4-D gamers..

This is cool.

BY THE WAY! kewlkat007 where and when did u hear that ps4 is on its way. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW!

Early on in the piece Sony announced that the 'Cell' was capable of load balancing across multiple 'Cells'. For instance, when Sony releases a TV featuring a Cell processor that your PS3 could potentially load balance with your TV. This IBM demonstration gives us a clear indication as to what can be achieved using 3 Cell processors.

Unfortunately this puts the PS3 in a similar position as the PC, that is, the more powerful the PC the richer the gaming experience. I for one do not want to see console games going down a path where you will only get the maximum experience from a game if you buy additional hardware. Consider this, how would you feel if to get a sustained 60fps at 1080p when playing Resident Evil 5 you needed to load balance with your PS3 with another Cell processor?

this is impressive? hmm ok i didnt think so

I mean, if DMA transfers are so slow then why are PS3 titles getting such high performance for things like AI and Physics processing? Complaining that the SPE's memory is 'only 256KB' is a bit hypocritical since each hardware thread on the Xenon CPU gets 'only 133KB' of on-chip memory.

Every complaint and allegation made against the Cell BE was already addressed before the chip was even released. DMA allows for secure and fast transfer of data between XDR ram and Local Storage in the SPEs; the PPE has nothing to do with it. Microsoft affiliates have tried very hard to make it seem as if all SPE data has to pass through the PPE, and that's simply not true. You have to wonder why Cell is being used so heavily for High-performance servers, Graphics Processing, Physics Processing, Military usage, and Medical imagining/calculations, while the Xenon chip is sorta collecting dust.

*The SPEs are completely independent of the PPE, and from each other. This is why programmers can string together clusters of cores within Cell to create endless programming strategies.

The most popular method is to have the PPE handle all the main instructions because developers haven't actually moved into full parallel processing; they simply use elements of parallel processing since it's very hard to deal with.

The next stage though (and you'll see this fairly quickly) is to have SPEs acting on their own without assistance from the PPE, and in some cases the PPE will be completely ignored because the SPEs handle general purpose code almost as well as the PPE, but without the performance deficits inherent with Cache architecture.

Here's the kicker. The Cell BE can even be programmed like the 360's Xenon CPU, albeit with over twice the on-chip memory, faster internal bandwidth, and RAM that runs 5x faster.

people who dont think this is impressive just have not had any experience with 3d modelling and rendering. I have a $5000 dual xeon rendering server that takes about 3 minutes to render just one shot using ray tracing. I know that 3d max can use linux based render slaves so this may be a really great thing for me at work. I am really excited by this and now must go do some more research and find out how hard it would be to recreate this setup at work. I believe all i would have to do is install the network render application on the ps3 running linux. this would be by far the most economical render farm for a small 3d business and would be great for coffee break deathmatches too. The list of things convincing me to buy a PS3 is getting longer by the day.

k FORZA MOTORSPORT 2 looks better

So , what were seeing is 3 ps3s wooking together to make this happen. thats great but its not pactical. we need more games man!

@TylerDurden , Well, pretty much it goes down to what people would like to believe. You seem to have extensive technical knowledge and probably programming skills which is why you are asking yourself logical questions. As programmers we kind of understand things that others rely on Sony's PR to tell them. People automatilly asume that in order for something to be powerful it must be difficult (i.e. the cell). Also they automatically asume that since the xbox 360 is relatively easier to develop than it means there is no room for improvement or try new ways. Obviously these people arent developers.

Think about it, history repeats itself. Sony did the same thing with the PS2 CPU, they always play those cards.

Others have a little more knowledge but instead lie and make their own facts as if they get pay by Sony.

Take DJ for example, "Xenon CPU memory 133KB" where the hell does he get this information? He never provides any links.

Cant wait for PS4 power.

This might well be great news for next gen 3D modelling or whatever, but if it takes 3 PS3s to achieve what is shown, the question is whether ray tracing is viable for creating games in the near future.

Whatever that means?.... I sure pround to be a PS3 owner. COOL!

I noticed that there alot of ps3 fans on this site, including myself. more ps3 fans then 360s. I have plenty of time since im not playing my ps3, it doesnt have any games i like yet. this sucks

Synthesizers was all about hardware, now when we have more powerful CPUs they can be software emulated and exists as plugins in sequencers like Cubase etc. Will the future be the same for graphic cards when the CPUs get powerful enough to do ray tracing etc ?

BladeStar (aka BS @ comment 30), Hahaha, has a lot of time on his hands. Probably that is why he could lovingly put together such a conglomeration of old Sony news. If he put half as much effort into getting a proper education he would have a Ph. D by now. Maybe we can start an educate BS fund and send his A$$ to Devry for some proper education.
I also agree with Smokey @ 30.1, and I would go a step further to say that to give MS any credit right now would be silly, Sony delivered the definitive an LASTING gaming experience for the past 2 generations, MS on the other hand has a spotty track record thus far.
Put it this way if Sony and MS were investors Sony would be the one that has made you Millions in the past and is diversifying your funds promising a higher rate of return, MS is the one that promised you millions and then ran off with your money. Now would I be more skeptical of Sony or MS in this situation? The trusted lender that came through every time before (Sony) or, the swindler that took my money the first time(MS)? I would have to say Sony is the right choice, MS's first romp with the XBOX was a royal F@&KUP, I have no reason to believe that when things begin to change, they won't just pack up shop again. Seems like a lot of XBOX fanatics like talking about LOGIC, but tend to not use the brain God gave them for simple logical thinking.
I guess a little success from MS (for the year they haven't had any competition, good thing too with the failure rate they were averaging) and all of a sudden all is forgotten, Sony markets a product ( just like all other companies) and the fact that they have defined the gaming experience for 2 generations is forgotten. It's all very disgusting but to each his own I guess.
But I digress, game on.

By the way, I have a new picture of Mass Effect. It's one of the key lines by one of the main characters earlier in the game, I think its a nod to all the true MS fanboys. Enjoy!!

can this process be used to make online framerates a little better?

Or can this be used to help online in anyway?

OK first of all I have no idea what Ray-Tracing is....well I did watch the video, I also read every single comment and read some links about Ray-Tracing....but forgive me because it takes awhile before all the tech babble sinks in.

One thing I have learned from my "limited" knowledge or perception of this technique is that you need alot of raw CPU power to do it. From everything I have read the Cell is one hell of a CPU and I'm sure multiple Cell's can produce some great tech idea's like Ray-Tracing and other things we probably haven't seen yet depending on the capabilities and vision of the programmers/developers. However I do get the impression that this is a long way from being something that we will see done routinely if at all in games this gen. I mean I understand that this is really cool and all but honestly you do all that work just to get what looks like a "great" 3d render with lighting effects that aren't much better looking than some of the stuff we have now...at least to the lamen (me) thats pretty much all I see. -yeah, sure "IF" you understand whats going on in that pic its amazing but in real terms to the avg Joe its just a 3d render of a car...no environment and no action/movement/motion. That said I look forward to the day when this becomes practical and efficient for everyday gaming purposes.= Gameplay Graphics.

Do casual gamers know or care about Ray-Tracing? I mean i don't and i'm a hardcore gamer.

You guys do realise he was using 3 ps3 on a network.

Hope and hype. All you gotta do with ps3 gamers is mess with something a lil and then recieve all the worship. lol. If this is what developers are getting paid to waste time on. its gonna be a very long time before I turn on my ps3. Next its gonna be that the leaves on trees are greener than xbox 360 capabilities. "OMG those leaves are so green and real looking, the ps3 is so powerful. Its makes all the other leaves look like regular leaves. But, these leaves are so impressive they are like looking at leaves that are green". FORZA COMING IN MAY 2007. Ps3 RAY TrAcing 2015

so they used 3 ps3's to accomplish something that looks no better than what we have in realtime on GT:HD and Forza 2? not impressed...

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.