Quite right, but to them probably they don't care so much about us consumers incurring these huge costs - at the moment anyway ( that includes us who love our XBoxes too... ) as long as they get their big fat bonuses. Because in a way they could instinctively manipulate { does'nt mean cheating } the statistics ( that's all they see ) in the market which is part and parcel of the job. While all the fanboys/girls around the globe keeps arguing about minute details ( which are all good and not so good ) about their favorite consoles/games and tech news...

Why didn't you guys listen to me? Home WILL revolutionize the way we play online. It's freakin' amazing!

"deepbrown:Booyakasha&quo t; -LOL

R E S P E C T.

If Sony would include dualshock and drop the price $100 bucks then more folks would defiantly buy! (maybe even include a 80GB HDD too)

who do you think will be on top in 2 yrs??? ask yourself that?

We all know in the end ps3 will reign king...its sony..Ms doesnt have the force of sony in the game industry..everyone wants a ps3 they just acant afford one right now....

some just don't understand sony's strategy.microsoft is thinking about the now instead of what will happen in the future.

sony always thinks and takes risks on their long range prospects of making money.like the stock market.do you want to make some quick money?or make a lot of money over a longer time period?

the one thing sony has over the other 2 companies is that they can make hardware(tvs,game systems,cameras,etc).and because of that,it allows them to see the possible outcomes of releasing their products.they may not always succeed,but they rarely miss.

sony knew because they make tvs on why hdmi was necessary.they were making tvs with it(hdmi) included.it should have been obvious to microsoft on why sony wanted to include it.sony's tvs,as well as other companies like samsung,were going to add hdmi.

sony knew from the music,movies and games they make,that a hard drive was necessary.the problem was ps2 wasn't powerful enough to handle what sony was going to do.which was: to distribute the massive amount of content they make over the internet."HOME" was going to also be a part of the ps2 structure,but they decided to wait for their next,more advanced console to bring that about.

from the hard drive,dual shock controller,broadband only network adapter,eyetoy,emotion engine chip,dvd,bluray,etc.sony always looked to the future.it shows with the ps3.ps3 is a media machine.sure it plays games.but it was built to distribute sony content.their movies,their music,their games to the public.

the cell chip alone can stream 12 hd streams without batting an eye.pcs struggle to just decode one stream.cell does 12.people seem to think the cell is not powerful.they're fooling themselves.folding home is just an example of number crunching that wipes the floor with every other chip out there.sony a long time ago,and i was watching,created the GS CUBE.what is it?it was sony's attempt at running 16 emotion chips in parallel to create cimema quality graphics in 2001.

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the gist of it was sony was trying to create cinema quality cgi graphics in realtime and use that knowledge for future cgi crunching and their next game system.basically, have chips run in parallel to distribute the work.they succeeded.the problem was the computers hooked to GS were too slow.they bottlenecked the GS cube from displaying it.but the knowledge gained created the cell chip.processors working together to distribute the work effortlessly.

sony has shown why they are the market leader.even through missteps.microsoft may have built their ideas off of what sony was creating(and succeded at some of them).they just don't innovate beyond the now.the controller,the system,the graphics,the hd camera and online just don't innovate beyond the now.it's why they are backpeddling with the "elite."

the controller brings nothing new except ergonomics,the system uses off the shelf components and dvd,the hd camera brings no eyetoy like fun,online is just as boring as what we have been looking at for decades.which is 2d and not interactive.i'm not trying to flame but microsoft just doesn't get it.they didn't get it with ps2.they don't get it with ps3.

if you're going to make a next gen system,you got to try something new.some might say motion is cheap.but why stick with the same type of controller and immersion?why stick with non interactive 2d pages?why stick with the same disc media as last gen?why stick to the here and now?because later is coming.

microsoft may fool people with looks NOW.but over time it will be the engines running underneath the looks that matter.the lighting,the physics,the A.I.,and the number crunching to do it all.the ps3,even with motorstorm physics and deformation and no lag 40 player resistance online out NOW,will show sooner rather than later,why it will distance itself from the other two.

sony is not worried because they are pretty much where they want to be compared to ps2.they have no real need to rush.they don't need to shout out numbers but hide the real figures.they don't need to call themselves the leader.they don't need to spend millions in viral marketing.and they don't need to abandon their customers to get the jump or redo systems that aren't future proof.the price will drop and the marketing will push ps3 right out the door.

some of you may not have a ps3 now like i do,but you will sooner or later.

"its so good, i put sonys name on it"

You have to loose or be loosing to make a comback right. I thought Sony was doing good. Where the hell is Killzone PS3 (e3-05 version).

sure on the way... just play the psp version first... while you waiting ^d^

@slippymadfrog

wow! we certainly have it easier than you that is for sure.

The reason why the ps2 remains to be as successful as it is, is because parents can afford it. Don't believe me? The wii, which is just as new as the ps3 already has an install base of approx 6 million people - its affordable.

Some have suggested that "once you buy it you'll know where the money went." Well, even before I buy it, I should know where the money went. And frankly, I do know where the money goes. I realize that speaking from a strictly technical level the ps3 is quite impressive. That still doesn't mean I can justify spending nearly a thousand dollars (ps3, hdmi cable, extra controller, and a few games) just to get settled in to a new console. I could barely afford the xbox 360 and frankly I think it too, is overpriced. Cheaper consoles are better for all.

I don't need to understand sony's strategy. It's not a consumers job. My job as a consumer is to decide whether its worth $600.00 and my answer (personally) is no.

Regarding your comments on sony's future proofing - You are completely right, the cell chip shows much potential. The graphics card however, will show age over time, and become obsolete despite the cells power. Trying to "future proof" something like a computer for 10 years is nearly impossible, as technology changes so much that in 10 years nearly all the components used in the ps3 could have gone the way of the dodo. You may not agree, but I am hard pressed to find ANY device that was made 10 years ago that still stands up to its modern competitors in the way of performance, value, and features.

Now this guy "whengeeksgobad" deserves a Bubble for his Post #17
Good reasoning as a Consumer..

Now "shadowgamer", sorry to burst the bubble but the PS3 will not have superior HARDWARE in 10 years.
In (1997) you could have purchased a PC loaded with 32MB of RAM, a 2GB HDD, 12X CD-ROM drive, 33.6k modem, and tons of productivity software.
In (2007)..well I won't even go there...

As for me, the way I see it

PSone - No competition(Sorry N64)
PStwo - stil no competition(Death to Dreamcast)
PSthree - HeHe Who knows but I don't see any deaths anytime soon.

Sony needs its console to sell a lot better with Spectacular sales, not just Good or above average sales this time around. The wii&360 is not going anywhere and will continue to eat away market share.

It's a new game Sony..

now please think about your average and casual gamers, cause all the hardcore faithful(fanboys) don't care for much of what you do,(cause you are God in their eyes and will never question a word you say or your prices) as they will eat it up and take it.

Now drop these prices and give me a Final Fantasy VII REMAKE..now

Has anyone checked the week-to-week sales figures for Japan? What struck me is the sharp down trend the PS3 has been locked into since launch. While it did benefit from sales bumps after VF5 & Gundam Masou were released, bumps that were expected to trend sales upward for months were barely able to hold for 2 weeks. I certainly hope that Sony has a contingency plan for the PS3, because if they insist on staying the course the PS3 is going to go down in history as the 2nd PSX.

http://www.videogamevs.com/...

Here's a lesson in technology...No company, not Sony, Microsoft or any other can ever future-proof their products. They have limited lifespans, and will eventually develop what the market's needs and demands are of the times - so ( shadowmaker ) stop talking all this sales crap - your just making a fool of yourself. Just enjoy what ( console/s, gadgets and stuff... ) you'ved got and leave Sony to do it's job on how it wants to go on about their business.

It's plain and simple the PS3 will not be dropped from production until 10 years just like they said with PS2. That's why they haven't jumped ship completely from PS2(However, both Nintendo AND Microsoft did). As a average consumer, they are looking at the HUGE library of PS2 games and the cost of the console $129. THEN when they are ready in like 3-4 years(maybe longer) when the price is more or less accessible to them will buy a PS3. PS3 now is for the "early-adapters" AND "hardcore gamers/fans" hence the reason it's not "flying" off the shelf.

Sony isn't one to just drop support on something that is still selling unlike the competition and that is the entire situation. Like it or not. And in no way am I implying that you should EVER know how Sony's business model is nor that you even care but know this...the system is here to stay like it or not.

@mp

the next 360 will be on the horizon in 3-4 years time,which might create a massive hype and surely outperform(and steal any momentum from)the ps3.

Who is or isn't to say next gen...at christmas or sometime in the distant future,that the 360 won't be in the ps2's shoes now?
It may very well happen,maybe not.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.