It was a great showing BUT what i didnt like is the way Kojima was announced, the whole okay thanks bye move was quite frankly extremely Disrespectful to the man i mean MAN come on this dude is HIDEO KOJIMA the father of stealth gameplay! And the Audience didnt help any either i wonder if Kojima-san is having second thought of releasing MGS Rising on the 360.

Yeah it was a great conference overall, some top games shown. Well Nintendo is next.

Excellent show, and we'll have plenty of footage andinterviews coming as well. Will be sharing it with our affiliate site, and lvl2gamer is one of them, so make sure yuo keep in contact with this site, OXCGN will be feeding them some "Exclusive" stuff from a few dev/publishers over next day or two.

I think Natal is gowing to change the way games are made. Prob not straight away, but seeing how the big-guns are now interested in it, you can see the huge possibilities it can and does have.

Sony's conference tomorrow will be interesting, and yes, OXCGN even has some time over there as well. We were invited by them when they found ouit we're a Sony friendly Xbox site.

It will need to be good though, I'd have to say that. But either way, the gamer is the one winning this E3.

Oh, and we nabbed some info on a new Forza 3 steering wheel and pedals that we'll be having some hands on with, which of course we'll be sharing with lvl2gamer. Forza, Crackdown 2 and Alan Wake are my top favourites this time around with Convictions coming really close behind them.

What's great about that showing?

Another MGS title? Copying the Wii? That's it? That's Microsoft's big plan?

Ulgh. I guess they really have given up on that "new games" thing. Guess it might be time for me to drop the 360 and focus solely on the other consoles, now.

I came into E3 expecting surprises. Hence I'm not surprised.

This gen has made it to where you shouldn't expect anything.

Phenomenal conference by Microsoft. Forza 2 looks INCREDIBLE. I was NOT expecting that lemme tell ya. The article missed Splinter cell and Crackdown. Plus I left early for work, what did rare and lionhead say!?

Yes it was a great conference and a nice shot in the arm the platform needed. I still think they have a lot of work to do in the First Party/Exclusive arena but they are doing good stuff.

It was an awesome showing....now let's see what the others have

It was a let down imo nothing i didn't know was coming no surprises

still good see halo odst and reach
alan wake looked ok

I think we can now put to rest all the hate towards each other and get to what is important...GAMING. Props to MS and hoping to see some great stuff from Sony and Nintendo tomorrow.

I thought it was a great show. The motion tech could be totally amazing if properly utilized.

But still, MS did nothing to make me want a 360. Just as I wish Kojima would do something BESIDES MGS, you have Bungie, a great team, working on two more Halos? C'mon. Once again, most of the titles shown I can get on the PC or PS3. Again, the biggest news was having an exclusive franchise go multiplatform... I can already get it where I'm at! That just doesn't sway me into spending $200 for your system MS. (Crackdown 2, however, was a true surprise and I can't wait to check it out).

Not meaning to be a party pooper, but I honestly don't think much of the show was a surprise. The only things that were unexpected was Kojima and the fact that their motion control scheme uses cameras rather than a controller like most expected. The only 360 games I can see myself picking up throughout the rest of the year are Halo: ODST and possibly Forza.

. . . let's be honest here, the past 2 years Microsoft has come into E3 with very low expectations and have managed to excite but this year was very impressive. With Halo ODST, Splinter Cell Conviction, Left 4 Dead 2 and Forza 3 this fall, Sony has to hope it has more to offer than Uncharted 2 and another Ratchet and Clank game. I'm waiting for Sony's press conference but with Heavy Rain, God of War III and possibly MAG slipping to 2010, I want to see some release dates. Seriously. Last year Microsoft had an impressive finish with Fable 2, Left 4 Dead and Gears of War 2. Sony has to finish the year strong. It alway seems Microsoft manages to remain idle for half the calendar year then finish strong, stealing all the momentum. Most people don't even realise that in 2008 Microsoft had more titles exclusive to its console with a metascore of 80 or higher than Sony. Sony always has a top heavy line up but no one pays attention to how thin it is when games slip to the next year. I want more than Uncharted 2 and a Ratchet and Clank game this fall.

"announced 15 new smashing titles for the 360, some of which were very highly anticipated over the last few months (and even years for some)"

New titles, that have been anticipated for the last few years?

I just watched it for the fun of it.Im waiting for Sony's press conference tomorrow but MS actually had a good conference.The things that most impressed me was Forza Motorsport 3 its looking really goodand I like how the digital info on the Audi R8's gauges in inside view in the trailer actually operates correctly unlike the R8 in GT 5 Prologue that doesnt and Alan Wake looked pretty good I liked the lighting effects in that but what mostly amazed me was the natal project mostly the mylo demonstration which was amazing how the kid in the game communicated and reacted to the woman playing.I just hope sony brings the thunder tomorrow GT 5 release date twisted metal u know the works.

It wasn't surprising but just exactly what we could expect. New good games, dashboard updates, videos of games that kept very quiet until now and release dates.

Even the appearance of Don Mattrick with Hideo Kojima was quite predictable. My only disappointments were about Alan Wake, which appears to be a zombie shooter, Epic's Shadow Complex and Splinter Cell Conviction.

But this was exactly what we were waiting for, a good conference, which erased the lackluster of the previous year. Let's hope Sony's and Nintendo's conferences will be as much good as Microsoft one.

All I know is that my wife is going to leave my ass cause no one is praying me away from my tv when all those Microsoft goodies come out, and when Redsteel2/ NMH2 + Wiimotion plus come out, God what a year for gaming, thank god cause last year was awful.

Let's see what Sony brings to the table, X360 has pwned so far, and Wii is coming out of it's shell with Hardcore titles.

though I'd never say this but:
Good job Microsoft.

Alan Wake, I'm not worthy....bow down...lol

I am a self admitted "sony fnaboy", always have been. But I still think microsoft had a good show. Mgs going to 360 does not bother me. The more people that get to play a great game from a great publisher the better. Alan Wake looked good. The timed maps for MW2 I expected, It will still be a day one purchase for this ps3 owner. The only thing I did not like was the motion controller. It just felt a little too "me too". I dont think it will compete all that well with nintendo. About the only thing I saw that would really want to make me go out and buy a 360 was left for dead 2. That just looks like hella fun!!! We will see what sony brings us tommorow. But good job microsoft, loads better than last year.

Why are people suprized at left 4 dead 2?

You're telling me games dont have sequels? lol

Left 4 Dead was crap, I sold my copy after 10 days of meh.

The only thing I look forward to is a new game by EPIC and forza 3.

Turn 10 really did good with FM3. . . ,so far.cuz,I know how hyped up I thought FM2 was gonna look. .and feel. . ,they promised way more than it delivered.so,Im going to wait on this.And,I'll wait for GT5.I'll get both,but Turn 10,promise me FM3 isnt just a NFS Shift

So all they showed was Generic Fps games , Multiplat games and Eye toy 2.0 which is technology stolen from Sony………..good job microsoft

that was good for MS that they have stuff coming out that we knew about the only exclusives i'll be missing is crackdown but the halo games look pretty lame i guess cuz i don't like halo never played the games and never caught my attention to play them but alan wake on my high end pc will be awsome and left 4 dead looks good to but feels like a rip-off cuz i'm still waiting for more content

it all was sh*t! I fu**en fell asleep! Boring! The real show starts tomorrow!!

i wish valve would come up with a new engine already this is feeling outdated bigtime

Everything was rumored or known except SEQUELS or maybe multiplatform games, so what exactly was mind blowing? The non-gaming functions that Xbox 360 fanboys criticize so much on gaming consoles, or the mini arcade games?

ohh my god, kids shouldn't you be sleeping, do your parents know your abusing your computer time, because only pre-teen punks would act like this, what next? do you want me to show you my PIPI and see who has it bigger, and don't bother I know what your reply is going to be.

Pissant fanboy.

PS3 is dead.

at best it could be a b-....it sows how they are swaying away from the hardcore market...us who made the 360 the 360

I seriously slept all day as I thought E3 started on June 2nd - 4th?

I heard about:
they bought MGS
a new stupid controller (why?)
and some new halo game

Havent seen alan wake yet.

Ever. This has been blown way out of proportion and will not sell (the motion control add-on). It will be overpriced, oversold, and underdeliver. How'd that HDDVD addon work out for ya? Maybe let's talk to Sega about add-ons with the 32x and such? MS is in a state of confusion as to who they want to market to. 2-3 years ago, these very same 360 owners were mocking the Wii saying it was gimmicky, it would never sell, etc., and the 360 was the "real" next-gen machine as it was aimed at "real" gamers and it had big, beefy guys with machine gun chomping on cigars as their mascots... Now, look at them. Catering to the soccer moms out there and you fanboys are so confused also, you're defending something they are building that you yourselves aren't even interested in in the very least!

Take this bit of info in:
The Wii was developed AROUND the idea of motion controls. The Wii console itself sells like hotcakes, but it's attachment ratio is VERY poor, third parties suffer, and there is alot of gimmicky shovelware on the platform. Know why? Because it's hard to program for games that use motion control as input and honestly, most games that try it pull it off in such a way you'd rather play with normal controls.

It's going to flop and not only will the motion controls flop on the 360, they will be the metaphorical motorcycle the 360 is riding on jumping over that shark as it's lost it's way. It's trying to appeal to everyone and their mothers while the PS3 has the hardcore folks in it's aim and the Wii has the soccer moms hearts already.

Todays showing at E3 was mediocre at best and a bumbling mess of speakers having to clap for themselves as announcement after announcement was met with crickets falling asleep. They sure did push the hype though, didn't they? They even have some of you that were laughing at the Wii with gimmicky motion controls thinking it's actually cool now and something MS should focus on, instead of that hardcore market that brought you to it. Whatever floats your boat.

I knew they were gonna have a good showing but man they did surprised me, impressive conference, cant wait for Sony tomorrow.

There was a lot of talking about how great this E3 was going to be and judging just by the beginning of it, I,m beginning to think so.

come on Sony, surprise us...

@ PLAYSTATIONGENRATION

course that's you're avatar.
and your nickname...I can't hold it...LOL

Didn't the Wii-fit balance board sell more than the PS3 for a while?...LOL

Nothing from Microsofts conference surprised me..
Alan Wake
SC
LFD2
C2
Forza3
Halo Expansion
Thats all they have...seriously thats weak.

Sony already has this year
Killzone2
Infamous
MAG
White Knight
God of War 3
Demon Souls
GT5
Rachet and Clank
Uncharted 2
Team ICO's new game
..thats what we already know, not to mention the unannounced titles. Seriously guys, if its about games...Microsoft failed at this yrs e3

The 360 is awesome!That's what come to mind when I saw the games.Some crazy arrogant ps3 fanboys do not know when the sky just fell on them!

are ranting and raving and trying to belittle this EPIC press conference! "Halo, Forza & MGS wasn't a suprise."

Yeah, right.

Well how about Facebook, Twitter & Last.fm???

How about watching movies in a party from Netflix or Zune Marketplace?

And the ability to d/l vidz & take them with on a Zune Device? (Hint:Integration.How well is PSP integrated w/PSN?)

How about LIVE TV for my UK brothers via Sky??

How about being able to watch 1080p movies w/o a hdd or bluray player?

Were they not surprising as well??

And no matter how much you TRY to belittle these things, everyone in the ENTERTAINMENT industry, including Sony, knows that these things are UNPRECEDENTED!!!

At this point Sony will need a whole new console to compete.

anyone know if the other dev's like Rare, Mistwalker, Qentertainment/feelplus are showing anything Tuesday/Wednesday?

sometimes i swear that should be the name of this site. I honestly have been blown away by all the MS hatred spewing today. I guess if hate is the barometer for the success of the MS event, then they must have really nailed it today..

im guessing by christmas the 360 will be around 100-150 then itll be to good to pass up, the 360 has alot of good upcoming games but none in the near future that interest me. Its the same thing with sony i dont see them coming out with any big games till GOW3, but we'll see tomorrow what else they have. :)

Yes it would be a surprise, if you don't use the internet. Most of what Microsoft showed was all ready leaked and that motion thing was extremely underwhelming.Colour me unimpressed, unshocked and unsurprised.

woo, halo!!!
lots and lots of halo!!

They had a great show, splinter cell conviction looked amazing and i wish it was comin to ps3 cause thats all i have. Can't wait for sony's press conference tomorrow either.

NFS: SHIFT got a slap in the face if you ask me though...Forza 3 in October...shift in September...sounds liek Shift might lose some considerable sales now...i thought Forza was gonna hit in november or early december.

Too bad two of these fifteen games will be coming this year.

2009: The year of the milked franchises (Halo Wars, Halo: ODST, Forza)

What else do you guys have?

They are going to blow everyone away!!! With a 2-hour time schedule, Sony isn't going to just announce 10 or so multi-platform titles (and in the cases of the Xbox 360 and the 5-disc FFXIII and MGS:Rising, inferior versions at that) Sony is taking their plans and goals for the advancement of the PS3 and are going to drop-kick them in everyones faces. Only the D*ck-Head MS fanboys who can look into the future will disagree!

Microsoft had a really great showing. I am impressed.

I wasn't surprised by anything except maybe the Milo application for Natal. I knew they were going to show the tech. I was impressed by Splinter Cell conviction but it has been in development for a long time so if they showed anything less I would have been disappointed

No i think I do get it. Who wants to pay money for movies and not keep them. Especially at that quality. And do you think everyone has the bandwidth to download in real time films at that rez. I think you will find most of the worlds broadband owning population dont get a fast enough speed. Your the tool mate. you need to learn a bit more about technology. And as for integration of your gay xbox avatars. Read INTEGRATION, read you get no choice because your gaybox has no browser. You get no choice in the matter.

facts mate nothing but facts. Its ok trying to say everyone else is just pulling it down. but those are facts.

Oh and to the question about why im here. Simple. Its nice to give out a little backlash just the same you as xbox boys do when sony gets some 'good' news.

So how you going to spin the whole sky tv one. all you xbox owning sky paying guys are going to pay once for your sky subscription then pay again to live to watch it again. Effectively paying twice. M$ you got to love them.

but my mind was certainly not blown

"Yes it would be a surprise, if you don't use the internet. Most of what Microsoft showed was all ready leaked and that motion thing was extremely underwhelming.Colour me unimpressed, unshocked and unsurprised."

-So what you're saying is NOW that we actually get CONFIRMATION on amazing new games, content, applications and features that its somehow underwhelming ALL because most things were already slightly hinted at, closely implied, or because some blog took a wild guess about everything under the sun that could possibly come to the 360, when you actually see them shown off, well uhm you got to be dissapointed because you thougt, maybe, somehow, sort of, in a round-about way, it was *rumored something was possibly going to happen. lmfao

-lol, just think about what you're saying for a moment= Of course if you follow every shred of "speculation" gaming news then somewhere somehow out of the thousands of guess's made by hundreds of sites a few of them are bound to be right, but the point is CONFIRMATION of what is coming and putting it all together in a great show with still a few great surprises that were never fully guessed or explained= A Blockbuster Show, Congratulations microsoft it was a great show for 360 owners.

JOY

im didnt think its was that good to be fair but they tryed to blow things up and it dint work i cudent watch e3 live on ,my xbox ill be watchimg sonys live in home

Average conference at best, only kids got impressed, but yet again, Xbox 360 is a childish system.

Yeah, it was a good E3 for MS for a change. The only thing that frustrated me was IW selling out and providing exclusive DLC.. Such a lame game they play sometimes.

I was highly unimpressed.... instead of social networking why not focus on umm in dunno GAMES!!! out of all the games they showed only two exclusives this year and both not until the fall? come on this was hardly a good showing... yea they showed alot.. but a majority of the show was focuse on the social networking aspect... netflix streaming in hd.. wow sony has had streaming hd content since last e3... rent or buy not just rentals.... twitter and facebook.... hmm wat happens when people move onto the next big fad in social networking.. remember the sudden drop off in interest for myspace??? The only things about this conference that I took notice in was alan wake.. Im actually jealous of this game after seeing it in action.... secondly the mgs rising announcement was painful... i will admit i never saw this coming.... hideo has openely stated his dis interest in the 360 but i guess money talks and ms has more then they know wat to do with.. smells like another buy out to me... but ms is notorious for buying there way through everything.... video games are no different..

Ok sony boys let's try this ONE more time and this time lets make it count...

Facebook. Twitter. Last.FM and sky are all INTEGRATED into XBL. Not being used on a browser that is half the size of your screen.

Microsoft doesn't only have 2 exclusives coming this year.

Forza 3 (2009)
Crackdown 2 (unannounced)
left 4 dead 2 (2009)
Alan Wake (2010)
Mass Effect (2010)
Splinter Cell (2009)
Halo Recon (2010)
Halo: ODST (2009)
Lost Planet 2 (2010)
Hell you could also throw in GTA DLC, Gears DLC and chapter, Fallout DLC.
4 exclusives for 2009 without 1st party announcements. At least 4 already confirmed for 2010 without 1st party announcements.

Let me be cynical for a minute as I analyze what MS actually announced in their conference!
All the games that were announced were expected or rumored months before E3, with the exception of MGS:Rising.
Project Natal was shown too early as I think MS should have saved that for the next console, which would allow them to market the console to a broader market from day one! At the moment if Natal was released in the next 12 months I would only surmise that you would be seeing it applied to minigames within games or used specifically in sport sims.

Left4Dead 2 .... was bound to be made, owing to the success of the first game!
Halo ODST .... cannot be considered as a full retail game!
MGS:Rising .... is not exclusive!
Alan Wake .... looks promising!
Halo: Reach .... still a work in progress!
Mass Effect 2 .... looks promising!

All in all MS showed a lot of third party games, of which exclusivity their exclusivity is still up in the air!

Verdict: By no means has MS had an "amazing" conference, MGS: Rising might pale in comparison if the likes of Nintendo announced Zelda on the Wii, or Sony announced a release date for Gran Turismo or God of War!

MS can keep paying for the games, and DLC, but look at the big picture and that's a department that is setting itself up for failure in the future by not investing in themselves instead!

sony well strike back

I only own a PS3, thought I should get that out there first. Now, I didn't get a chance to see any E3 footage yesterday, until I got home late in the evening and went to Gametrailers.com. Seeing the seemingly endless influx of trailers and articles from MS's showings at E3 all at one time just wowed me. I was really impressed with everything they had unveiled and a little envious, but then the shock wore off and I was left thinking, so what was it that really shocked me and why?

I came to the conclusion that so much info at one time overwhelmed me mainly due to the unexpected unveiling of sequels to popular franchise names and the obvious curiosity factor that the new innovations, motion and Milo, have. Realizing that, it changed my mind to feeling overall underwhelmed with MS showings.

In my opinion, stemming from my realizations, the biggest announcements are the Halo games, L4D2, Milo/Motion Controls, Splinter Cell, Alan Wake, MGSR. They all seemed great, but at second glance, they all kind of fell short of expectations, "TO ME." I never liked the Halo series, you could thank the idiotic grunts from the 1st for that. ODST's atmosphere seemed good, but the visually obvious transitions from cutscene to gameplay where unsettling and not to mention the less enemies and overall action on screen in the gameplay. Plus, it just seems like a cashcow, Halo:Reach beta invite and various maps in place of gameplay, for the wait until the real Halo:Reach comes out.

L4D2 sounded cool to me at first but then it just left me feeling pissed of. How dare Steam have the audacity to promote a sequel in such a short time frame. The new characters, chainsaw, and new places that came out in the teaser could very well have been dlc instead. It just seems wrong to me for them to drop support of their game so quick. The game is already just online, so when the new one comes out you will be forced to "upgrade" or be left with a useless product pretty much.

Post is running long, so to sum up the rest of my observations, never liked the Splinter Cell series since the first one. Alan Wake seemed good in its first 2 minutes, but then became somewhat repetitive not to mentions it RE4 controls. I think it was just the level they chose to showcase that made it seem repetitive though. While I wouldn't see myself using Facebook on a console, I don't care much for the XBOX Live and Facebook integration since I would rather keep my social life and gaming life separate, I would probably use Twitter. And finally, the motion controls/Milo and MGS, I like MGS more than Splinter Cell, seem like the only real worthy of praise reveals. -DISCLAIMER- *Everything expressed in the post is my opinion.*

Microsoft really shock me with this year E3. Not just the games, but how they organize the conference. Although the games they announced are basically obvious, and 90% shooters, but I guess Xbox360 owners will love it, as shooters are the reason for buying an Xbox360!

Although the conference is amazing. There are still disappointing moments.
With all the hype surrounding Alan Wake, I'm kin to see what it's about to deliver until they show the footage that turn out to be RE5 wannabe.. !!!
But, probably GeoW fans hurt the most when EPIC bring in a water gun for the show. AHAHA!

One thing that bothers me ..
When Xbox360 got their hands on MGS:R the PR said "Now our platform is complete". So I'm wondering is that an indication that Xbox360 will stop with it's support after this year E3, and its time to move on?

How well Sony E3 will be.
Microsoft did well enough to surprised me,
Unlike Sony, Microsoft always show their upcoming games and will be released in around 6-12 month,Sony on the other hand did show their upcoming games, but will be more than a year or 3 until it was released.. GT5+

There's a lot of stuff I was surprised of,
Natal motion sensor, So-so..
MGSR, really surprised! Even Hideo shows up?
L4d2, yes, quite fast..
Halo Reach, Wtf?
Forza 3 for real? GT5, you're slow..
Special guest Tony hawk?!
Partnership with twitter and facebook?

Keep being iqnorant,
PS3 fanboys always say L4d will come to PS3, guess what?
You're wrong!

Just quit this market sony ... u have no chance.

"darkride is one of the few people that I bother to follow on this hellhole of a gaming site. He's both honest and realistic. "

...lol

Your not serious are you ??? darkride always slags off the 360
I don't know why he keeps it?? just sell it and leave the 360 threads altogether. stop boring us with your repeating of the the same sh"t over And over.

Grow the *%&$ up. Seriously. Why can't you lame-brains just be happy for gaming as a whole? What does it matter? I seriously doubt any of you trolls are shareholders in these companies.

Gaming BENEFITS from competition. That is a fact. The more these companies play the back and forth game, the more we ALL benefit.

I've been gaming for over 20 years. I've seen companies come and go, new ideas birthed, old ideas rehashed. The only thing that holds up in this industry is the massive amount of ignorance displayed by people like you guys.

Just be a fanboy of GAMING as a whole and do what I do, own all the systems! :)

After much BEGGING and HUMILIATION , was finally confirmed MGS on 360...PATHETIC...

after so much cry like babies, the poors americans will have MGS serie on your console useless...Xplode360!!

auehauehauehauehauehauehaueha uehae

rotten bastard

It was practically a repeat from last year more Halo barely showed any exclusives that is not on a PC considering PC gets pirated a lot! and having Metal Gear Solid Rising wasn't big as announcement because announcing Metal Gear Solid 4 would have been of big of announcement then that well maybe not that big since PS3 fans played it already!

and Natal that is nothing new Sony did that way before Microsoft did you guys are giving credit to them that Sony already has done and that is Eyedentify!.

Well, I'd say it was an average conference, more or less saved by the MGS action game spinoff.

Without that, it would have been clearly subpar. Crappy XBLA games, multiplatforms and 2010 exclusives yet again.

MS must understand that they must give nice exclusives, not DLC or XBLA games...

What is left for 2009 as exclusives besides this Halo 4 hours expansion ? Not much actually.

I doubt Sony will have trouble to do better. In that way, it's a repeat of last year, where MS conference weaknesses were hidden by an exclusive going multiplat, which no dual console owner cares, of course... A multiplat won't stop my 360 from collecting dust.

you sony fanatics will just never give it a rest.

first it was the 360 has no games, then you get fanatics like badbond1 that just cant wait to play 360 games on a pc. at the end of the day badbond1 it is exclusive to consoles. if you wanna be part of the 100 ppl that buy 360 games on a pc the great for you.

all sony is going to do is announce games that wont show up for like another 2 or 3 years, that sh!t is annoying. all those studios and you would think that games can hit the ps3 sooner but thats not the case..

the 360 is about to get forza 3 and gt5 still cant get damage right, lol..