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Microsoft Fluid Prototype In Action

Rumors have been flying around about Microsoft's new motion camera called the Microsoft Fluid being developed by 3DV and their ZCam technology. Well, some may not know but 3DV actually showed off their camera at CES 2008 with a full-on gaming tech demo. Check out the video below to get an idea of what to expect with the Fluid.

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qface646115d ago

really? now that's it?
am i supposed to be impressed? it really just seems like the eye toy

so many people on the internet were making it sound like it was going to be godly?
i dunno if this is even the official thing or not but it doesn't really impress if you ask me

40cal6115d ago

It looks like it works just like the PS Eye to me also.

I am looking forward to seeing what they have done with Eye Pet thus far. Hopefully we will get some info at E3.

I did not murder him6115d ago (Edited 6115d ago )

The playstation eye is that responsive? The playstation eye I bought was slow and barely manageable in comparison. The eyetoy is more advanced than the Playstation eye?

You can tell what it can do based on this dude playing a game?

sack_boi6115d ago

Very responsive (prototype) but lame.

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I did not murder him6114d ago

Correction.
#2 is right. I do agree with #3 though.

RememberThe3576114d ago

I just don't think it will be applied well. That boxing game looked like it would be pretty fun. But unless MS is planning something like what Sony is planning with the Eye Toy, I just don't see how this is better then using a controller.

I thought the Eye Toy ran at 120 f/s Isn't that pretty good. Maybe it was just the programing that made it slow.

Mindboggle6114d ago

Anyone who thinks this is cool is dilluded.

This is essentially the same game that was on Eye toy on PS2 in like 2003. Except they moved the angle. This was done in Wii Sports and once again in Punch out.

Typical Microsoft. Never innovate, never create original products, just rip off other companies and steal their games. I dont know why people even buy their consoles and games. Oh yh I know why, AS ITS CHEAP!

TomAB6114d ago

I agree; wii boxing is better than what that looks (almost :)) I seriously hope microsoft has something aa little more advanced than this

aueslander6114d ago

....those saying it is crap is basing their opinion off of a video made almost 18 months ago on an incomplete application and hardware as opposed to seeing how it works NOW on a console with hardware specific gaming software?

Yea, nice one there, might as well say Mass Effect 2 sucks even though we have seen next to noting and we are probably a year from release or say that FF13 will be a turd even though it wont be out for about another year also.

Please, though I know this will fall on deaf ears, make a decision based on what will be shown in 2 weeks since they have had almost 18 months more to work on the device which means that it could be far and away better now then it was in January of 2008.

Also, dont start with the "microsoft is not innovated" as sony brings out things as well *cough* sixaxis *cough* with devices that is similar to what is already on the market before sony releases them. Might as well call microsoft not innovateive because they released a game console in the first place but you can say that as well as sony since nintendo and sega released consoles before sony so of course, they were copying and not being innovative. I swear, fanboys on both sides are retarded.

I did not murder him6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

That camera probably doesn't exist in that form or developmental stage if Microsoft is really releasing first party motion sensing tech. Its probably a more advanced motion bar or strip with other sensors etc on it. I'm reading rumors of Full body motion.

You should know by now PS3 fans talk down anything related to the 360. It will be interesting to see if Microsoft is going to release the motion interface software they have mentioned wanting to do.

Gam716114d ago

Relax, its the SDF hijacking another 360 thread on N4G.
Must be saturday.

Yes, the eye toy can do the same thing but better.
The reason it hasn't is because...

no answer?
If it could it would have.

Have you checked their website to see what this can do?
Its not going to replace the joypad and anyone who's trying to claim ms is trying to claim that must own a ps3.

Watch the gesture based control of windows, but I know the eye toy...
sony said so...
or didn't but some fanboy did.

It is impressive and the potential (if you own a sony product you must appreciate that as you live on "potential") for gaming is huge.

But of course hate it because its ms (then go on about how hating sony is stupid because why would you hate a company!?!) and then when sony copy announce it as the best thing ever.

I'm looking forward to this. For gaming its innovative, and we know how you like innovation (obviously i'm not talking to the ninty or 360 owners on here as its full of ps3 fanboys) but i'm sure you all own an eye toy and are playing...
erm,
that one with the cards and...
erm...

Raz6114d ago

I played with this tech in an arcade ten years ago. Are we supposed to be dazzled? <YAWN>

I did not murder him6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

I think fans and trolls are suppose to buy into the rumor Microsoft is going to announce motion soon for their platforms by showing the video. I'm guessing thats the point.

Jaces6114d ago

Uhh...everyone already has a motion sensing console. Why do they want another one?

I was never really in this kind of stuff, unless it was something that was integrated a small bit here and there in some games.

I did not murder him6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

You're not the one selling Three Hundred thousand to Four hundred thousand consoles a month to an untapped up and coming casual market that is spreading like wildfire.

You also don't speak for the 40 to 50 million people that think its matrix/Minority Report/closer to Virtual reality/Health tool/family gaming fun futuristic sh*t.

Jaces6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

Ohhh, your talking about the Wii. Right?

I did not murder him6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

Indeed.

Huge market. The Wii broke the defacto video game mold because they have tapped into a new market while winning over the bulk of the casual demographic by releasing a product seen as the future with many benefits.
This new untapped demographic of non gamers(parents and the elderly etc) and the casual one is where the growth is at for any company. Hospitals, offices, retirement homes the list goes on.

aueslander6114d ago

Am not going to think this will replace the joypad anytime soon.

Granted I am sure the tech is lightyears better then the old sega octagon thingy (activator?) where you would stand inside it to punch and kick in genesis games but, until we get VR like a holodeck from Star Trek the joypad is not going anywhere anytime soon.

I am not bashing this as i think it could add to how games are played, like if you are a character who walks up to a computer console you can access the screen like you would if you were there or some other type functions which if done right could work really well.

Still, I found it funny a few days ago there was an article about sony's motion controller that had a mock up design that looked like the wii mote and PS3 fanboys were all over it mainly because it doesnt use IR like the wii and they claim it will revolutionise gaming and work better than the wii (which it very well could). Of course, these are the same ones that called the wii lame due to its control option yet once sony announces something similar, no one has a problem with it and thinks its a great idea.

Ah well, fantards of all 3 companies will always do this kind of crap, par for the course i guess.

bnaked6114d ago

WTF??????

Microsoft should develop games like uncharted 2 and not such a sh!t.. Thats a joke right? Who needs a f*cking 3D-camera?????

aueslander6114d ago

...microsoft make yet another Tomb Raider clone like Uncharted?

CrazzyMan6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

Because, games like Indiana Jones or games based on something like National Treasure will be ALWAYS FUN to play, instead of mindless 3rd person shooters with below average plot.

Milky6114d ago

I think it looks pretty nice, it seems to work very well. Im sure Sony will announce something extremely similar at e3 with the eye toy- maybe an eye toy 3.0 or something. Eyepet and all those games they announced last year are bound to make an appearance.

ps3d06113d ago

Got to love how stupid the ps3 fanboy are its embarrassing to have to even call them human cause they are so stupid.

"Typical Microsoft. Never innovate, never create original products"

This fanboy is so stupid he cant seem to read more then the headline. MS doesnt make it the zcam 3DV does and they have nothing to do with MS at all. Fluid and MS using this tech is not more then a rumor. If you could read you know the 1st word in the article is "Rumors"

"I played with this tech in an arcade ten years ago. Are we supposed to be dazzled?"

Really you played with zcam 10 years ago ? Thats a nice trick seeing that its still in the development stage.

" Because Uncharted is better, than latest Tomb Raider games
Because, games like Indiana Jones or games based on something like National Treasure will be ALWAYS FUN to play, instead of mindless 3rd person shooters with below average plot."

So you're talking about how great uncharted is while trashing 3rd person shooters when uncharted is a 3rd person shooter.

Game13a13y6113d ago

meh, not impressed at all. i have the "been here done that" feeling while watching the clip. plus, holding your hands in the air where as for the wii you're actually holding a controller in your hand, this eye toy feels alittle bit lame.

Consoldtobots6113d ago

microsoft copying Sony again? yes and water is wet

edgeofblade6113d ago

What gets me steamed is people who naturally assume Microsoft is incapable of being original... that they are doomed by destiny to fail at everything... that it's written in the stars. What a knuckle-headed approach to reality. You fail at rational thought if that's your approach to everything.

I don't quite think you understand everything this peripheral is doing, and if you aren't technically minded, you shouldn't pretend to know. It's mapping the subject in 3d space, rather than merely capturing motion in 2d space, like Eyetoy. If you want a comparison, Eyetoy and Xbox Live Vision are in the same class. All they could detect was the difference in contrast between the edge of your body and the hopefully white wall behind you.

This is COMPLETELY different from eyetoy, and if you can't recognize that, you've got anti-microsoft blinders on. If it uses infared as many sources suggest, lighting and contrast won't matter.

However, I'll be the first to admit I don't see many SOFTWARE applications beyond what Sony and Nintendo have done already. Boxing? Already done. Aerobics? Already done.

What REALLY needs to happen is some sort of application to first person shooters. Imagine this as a means to 3d headtracking-to-view control, like the Johnny Lee videos.

It really scares me that you kids are being bred with this blind adherence to the Sony label and hardly a one of you knows what you're talking about.

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Raoh6115d ago

the youtube video was posted January 07, 2008 at CES. it was not running on a console but a computer. this was before microsfot bought the company.

JustinSaneV26115d ago

That's pretty much what the description says...

Raoh6115d ago

i saw that just making sure the n4g members who dont read the articles know what they are commenting on

i'm not doubting microsofts ability and money to do something with this but people are jumping on this like its a new video

I did not murder him6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

No you did it to try and downplay the news the only people that don't read are PS3 fans when the see 360 news in a hurry to bash. No one said it was running on a console although you are right the point of this is to show off motion tech *now owned by Microsoft* It was a spiteful comment towards the 360. You wanted to nullify the excitement. The 360 (console) wasn't even mentioned only the company that own the tech/company.

Green Lantern26115d ago

lol this just a tech demo and to me it already killed the wii and the eye toy. I can't wait to use this playing the new Naruto from Ubisoft.

Blasphemy6115d ago

The problem is this won't be practical for all types of games so no this is not a Wii killer.

Parapraxis6114d ago (Edited 6114d ago )

@Blasphemy ...The Wiimote/nunchuck is not practical for all Wii games.
@Green Lantern2, that was an awfully stupid comment.

xabmol6114d ago

I was just thinking the same exact thing. o.0!

xD

GiantEnemyCrab6115d ago

So how well does this work when I'm 6 feet away from the camera and TV? I don't stand a foot away from my TV when I'm playing.

I guess I will reserve judgment until I see more. I just am not that confident after the Vision Camera promises and knowing how the EyeToy is better and still is disappointing.

FragMnTagM6114d ago

If they used this system along with a controller, it could be truly groundbreaking. You are supposed to be able to shoot, by making your hand into a gun gesture, and using your thumb as the trigger. But I feel this will not replace the controller. You need a trigger or something to hold to give it feeling. I am interested in seeing how this works. Until then, I am reserving judgment.

The eyetoy, and the vision camera are old tech, and they worked okay, so maybe this has something that made the other ones not that great. Let's wait and see.

NMC20076114d ago

If you people really think this is what MS invested so much money into then I feel sorry for you, MS may be full of shiz sometimes but they are not stupid.

This may be part of it but why not wait until it's unveiled at E3 instead of letting all these dumb ass rumors cloud the site, these sites just want hits, this is why they are posting so much bullshiz lately, because they know people are in E3 mode and very gullible, stop letting yourselves be pissed on and laughed at N4G.

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Sony has patented a touchscreen controller that lets players choose where to put the buttons

Standard controllers aren’t comfortable for everyone…

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Flawlessmic7d ago

As an accessibility option for those that need it im all for it. As the standard control for ps6 helllll noo, touch controller would be the absolute worst.

Eonjay7d ago

Reading the patent itself this does seem to be intended with accessibility in mind as it attempts to solve comfort issues that some users have with overall size and placement. Im completely fine with the current layout but its nice to know this option is there. It is intended to allow customers the ability to resize the controller to there liking even those the company may not manufacture that size. So, its cool to see they are thinking like this even though this product may not be for me. I would still love to see it release and see the potential use cases.

Goodguy017d ago

Digital will always be worse than physical buttons for 99% of gaming lol.

DivineHand1257d ago

This is interesting not only for accessibility reasons, but as a way to give players more control over their in game characters for core gamers.

I remember seeing the Tactus pop up buttons at CES 13 years ago and I was excited for the technology but I am not aware of any devices that used it.

The way gaming controllers are presented today is great, but I will always advocate for innovation in giving players more control and increased immersion.

MetalNCarnet7d ago

Terrible idea. For most games, you need to feel the physical buttons because you're not looking at the controller. I hope they aren't serious.

fr0sty7d ago

Unless they've worked out a way for tactile feedback so you can feel them. Perhaps little air bladders that could inflate when a button is placed in that position, placed under a flexible screen? Maybe it wouldn't be the best controller for all of us, but I know people who have medical conditions that make holding traditional controllers very uncomfortable with their default button layouts, this could help them.

Duke197d ago (Edited 7d ago )

More accessibility options is never a bad thing, but man I hate that all electronics seem to be pushing touchscreen controls on everything.

They are just garbage

badz1497d ago

We are at the point in time when touch screen controls are cheaper to make than physical buttons. Just look at modern cars. More and more system controls are moved to the central screen now that all new cars come with screens. It's downright ironic too, considering just not that many years ago, people were warn to not use their phone while driving. Now all controls are moved to the central screen that you can't help but looking at screens while driving.

fr0sty7d ago

EXCEPT trying to connect your phone, lol. They make you stop to do that. But the big screen that is every bit as distracting as a phone, it's cool.

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Seven cancelled racing video games that could have been great

From a fourth Project CARS to a Dakar-style open-world racer that set the template for Microsoft Flight Simulator. Here are seven racing games that didn’t quite make it.

Agent757d ago

Blur was decent, although the control system could've been better, Blur 2 in the video looks good. Project Cars was massively overrated and full of bugs, Dirt 3 yes, a new Dirt Rally no, rally games have passed me by. Project Gotham Racing 5, Ridge Racer 8, Wave Race 4, Crash Team Racing 2 are up there. Ridge Racer Unbounded had everything apart from the gameplay, there was also Split Second which was decent, the Burnout series became boring as with rally and F1 games. A new Wipeout is due, also F-Zero. I wouldn't say no to Outrun 2 on current consoles as long as it includes the exclusive Xbox tracks, then Outrun 3. Wipeout VR on the PS4 was awesome, that's due a sequel. I remember Buggy Boy on the Commodore 64 and Spectrum, that'll never see a sequel. The likes of Turismo and Forza have become boring. Forza Horizon not so much. Road Rash and Super Hang on 2 others. Chase HQ has never gained legendary status on any console.

Storm237d ago

I would do anything for a MotorStorm on PS5. Or just the trilogy in 4k/60. RIP Evolution.

darthv727d ago

Evolution did good on those games... but we don't need them for a trilogy remaster. It can be done by Sony's master of remasters: Bluepoint.

Storm237d ago (Edited 7d ago )

For sure. I don't even think it would need that talented of a studio. Upping the resolution and framerate would be all that's needed. Of course I would take the trilogy with a complete overhaul on the graphics, but upping the rez and framerate (and some great AA) would easily be enough for me.

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Video Game Stocks Plunge on Fears Google's Genie 3 Will Replace Game Engines

When Google unveiled Genie 3, an AI that generates explorable 3D worlds from simple text prompts, investors responded by dumping video game stocks en masse—wiping out billions in market value in mere hours. But in their rush to flee, Wall Street confused "playable environments" with actual video games, ignoring the technology's hard limits while threatening the human creativity that makes games worth playing. As the industry faces a future of automated mediocrity driven by shareholder demands, the panic reveals a deeper truth: investors aren't betting on better games, just cheaper ones.

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peppeaccardo7d ago

same level of fear that gen ai will replace art ... it is a tool that will help to prototipize open world games, but to completelly substitute game engines ... we are still a long way from it

z2g7d ago

Duplicate story. Or does Christopher just remove xbox stories that are similar?

Commentby7d ago

Humans have been developing things to simplify jobs since the beginning.
AI is going to remove the human factor from the job, but it can never replace all jobs that need a human factor.
I wish I could see the end of the story. What is the end, end goal, final piece, etc.
Is it a world run by machines, do humans live in a free world, does a dictator finally have an robot army, do humans finally free of working forever, does ChatGPT create an army to defeat Gemini., so many possibilities …