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360 and PS3 FFXIII engine work done 'simultaneously'

Game engine work on both the PS3 and Xbox 360 versions of hotly anticipated JRPG Final Fantasy XIII is being conducted simultaneously, Square Enix has revealed.

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ThanatosDMC6232d ago

Crystal Tools is a multiplat engine. So NO F-ing duh!

See report history to the right.

talltony6232d ago

most sane peoople will buy it for ps3. To me its still a full ps3 game.

mboojigga6232d ago

To most sane people. That is fine if you want toget it for the PS3 but it IS multiplatform as if denying that fact is supposed to be some diss towards the 360 version.

HighDefinition6232d ago

Versus is the "FULL PS3 game".

FF13 will be great, but FF13V definitely has more of my attention because of the more mature setting...it being a PS3 exclusive is a added bonus for sure though. PS3 exclusives are always more impressive.

sack_boi6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

So people that choose the X360 version are insane?

*sigh*

ZuperAmazingCooKie6232d ago

"So people that choose the X360 are insane? "

Nah, just ignorant.

:)

Immortal Kaim6232d ago

Are you guys 5 years old? Talk about petty.

HighDefinition6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

Snap!

There`s some pretty heavy dissing going on here, FF13 brings out the worst in people.

LOL.

I_LOVE_MYSELF6232d ago

Im sane and I am buying for the 360

Its the most sane thing to do because I like my multi plat games to have superior visuals and stable frame rate... PS3 version will most likely have jaggies and slowdown... Not to mention textures will be better on the 360...

360 version for me all day

HighDefinition6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

The people who can notice a missing pixel in a videogame are usually the same people who can`t notice a difference between DVD and BR.

:)

"360 version for me all day"

Get ready to swap discs all day too.

Sorry, I couldn`t resist.

kevoncox6232d ago

FF13 was the game that the 360 couldn't do. How quickly people forget. Now, it's any 1st party game that has no chance to every coming to the 360. Before this is Unreal Tornament(early 2005)

"InFamous can't be done on 360"
"GOW3 can't be done on 360"

HighDefinition6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

Did you know that Halo3 and KZ2 cost the same ammount of money to produce. But Halo3 had 23 million more for advertising.

The PS3 is far more powerful than the 360 (I own both) KZ2 proved that.

Also, NO ONE has seen the 360 version running yet so I wouldn`t speak to much.

"InFamous can't be done on 360"
"GOW3 can't be done on 360"

And.........

Jinxstar6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

Having fun High Def? =D

Buy FF13 for the system you own. If you own both though... There's the rub. Multiple discs or 1 disc... All specs are still unconfirmed. Will there be online of any kind? Will there be an optional install or mandatory? how much?.... Still too early but going off the main argument of now I say one disc.

@ MAiKU

I agree to a point. I am a die hard Sony Fanboy. Really. However did you not play MGS 4? That game had a ton of installs. I wish they just did a 30 min before you play and let you skip all the mid game installs... I honestly have not liked MGS since the PS1 but I understand why people love it. Some of the things in the 4th installment were just cool. Like when he had his flashback on the helocopter =D Still though lots and lots of install time imo... If you ever want to go back a chapter and replay something... More install. Then go to another save in the 2nd... Another... It wore on me...

HighDefinition6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

You know it.

LOL.

:P

I_LOVE_MYSELF6232d ago

"Get ready to swap discs all day too."

Get ready to install the game all day too :-)

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Kushan6232d ago

You people are some of the most childish, ignorant, idiodic people I've ever come across and considering I've been hanging around N4G for well over a year now, that's f***ing saying something.

Grow up, FF has always been about the story and the story is going to be the same on both systems.

CrazedFiend6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

Well, I'm playing the demo now and all I can say is DAMN is it fun! Definitely one of the best demos I've played on either system. Regardless of platform, blocking the demo in the US over corporate greed alone is a GREAT disservice to American gamers.

Sony or Microsoft, I don't care, some companies just need to stop playing the money hand all the time and just let the game cycle run it's course.

It's gonna be great game on any system. Unless someone decides to start waving more money around for exclusive DLC, advanced release on their system knowing that they've ALREADY delayed the release of the game as it is, or better yet, have the competitors version canceled altogether. But if both sides will FOR ONCE just play fair, it's gonna be a great game for everybody!

But sorry, great or not, you guys in the US will probably have to wait until MS gives you permission to play it (^o^)

bushfan6232d ago

well yeah i got it..but if the ps3 it's made first..what else would it be to do it simultaneously besides X360??..sounds like a re-made of the game..or maybe he was talking about the translation, which of course can be made simultaneously for both consoles..or maybe a bad translation? . who knows!

Ichiryoka6232d ago

High Definitiin just served up a can of whoop@$$ lol, he basically turned everyones words against them, thats the funny part.

He really didnt have to say much lol.

cmrbe6232d ago

"Get ready to swap discs all day too."

Get ready to install the game all day too :-)

Well get ready to buy a second standby x360 :-).

Oh and make sure you don't scratch one of them disc considering that the x360 likes to scratch them disc lol.

jBat176232d ago

you speak true, hi-def, true words, indeed

indysurfn6232d ago

There will be no excuse when the PS3 version has half the frame rate. Half the textures. And down right inferior graphics! Just like assassins creed! And NFL2008! And when that ONE blu-ray disk takes forever to load a area and people find out they don't have to change the xbox360 disk because they already installed it to disk! Oh wait they did still make excuses for the inferior version of assassins creed and NFL 2008 and all call of duty 4!!!! silly PS# douche bags!!!

Narutone666232d ago

xbox fanboys who were calling MGS4 a movie instead of a game have for an excuse, when FF13 comes out and have a longer cut scene then MGS4.

HighDefinition6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

"You people are some of the most childish, ignorant, idiodic people I've ever come across and considering I've been hanging around N4G for well over a year now, that's f***ing saying something."

Honestly man, it`s childish, ignorant and idiodic if you are actually that upset at some people having some fun talking/arguing. Don`t be so sensitive over ANY system. It`s just gaming and this is just the internet.

N4G is alot more fun, if you just relax and don`t take everything so seriously.

BTW, can someone translate this for me?

"There will be no excuse when the PS3 version has half the frame rate. Half the textures. And down right inferior graphics! Just like assassins creed! And NFL2008! And when that ONE blu-ray disk takes forever to load a area and people find out they don't have to change the xbox360 disk because they already installed it to disk! Oh wait they did still make excuses for the inferior version of assassins creed and NFL 2008 and all call of duty 4!!!! silly PS# douche bags!!!"

:P

UltimateIdiot9116232d ago

Hey, I haven't seen you around for a while.

Anyway, if those who want to get the 360 version, be my guess but the full experience is on the Playstation.

Who knows, maybe be there will be some tied in for FFXIII and FFXIII Vs. like secret unlocks.

AAACE56232d ago

I think 'talltony' rides the short bus!

Seems to me that people will buy the game for whatever system they have.

I understand how you feel though... I fisrt played FFX on Ps2 and thought it belonged as a Sony game. But when you think about it, all you do is move a stick and press a button. So it can actually go on any system that can handle it.

commodore646232d ago

all the people that think buying it for 360 is insane, are insane.

end of.

edgeofblade6232d ago

If I sit in the corner and rock back and forth chanting "FFXIII is still a PS3 exclusive", that doesn't change the fact that it... isn't. It's funny watching people deny reality to remain a fanboy.

Go draft another petition so I can make more fun of you.

Gantrfaxx6232d ago

Of course it's done simoultaneously, why do you think we're waiting for Ps3 version so long? Cos we have to wait until X360 version is finished. Damn M$.

Dannagar6232d ago

Well, I'm getting the 360 version of FF13. I'm not interested in visual differences, just Achievement points.

green6232d ago

I will also be getting the multi disked version as well.And if you all don't like it, well go jump off a cliff or something or sign a petition.Last time i checked you guys are good at both.

dcbronco6232d ago

And Sony's reward for spending 50-60 million on Killzone was what? Oh, just over a million copies sold. Let's say MS spent 25 million for advertising, they sold over 8 million copies. That equals a return of over 500 million dollars. Somebodies 50 million investment paid off, someones didn't.

velaxun6232d ago

am I the only one who doesn't give a sh!t about FFXIII anymore? It's just taking waaay too long to come out and it's still at least a year away from release over here.I just don't care anymore.

Shepherd 2146232d ago

many forget that Final Fantasy originated on Nintendo, yet fanboyism seems to suggest it is a full Sony title and that Microsoft wrongly stole the rights to have the game on the 360.

lol.

UltimateIdiot9116232d ago

And many forgets that the switch from Nintendo to Sony was because the Playstation used CD which provided more space and better graphic for progress and innovation.

DaTruth6232d ago (Edited 6231d ago )

The gamers were rewarded for Killzone 2... well at least some of us. Others got a last gen looking game.

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All-36231d ago

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?

You mean the PS3 version is HOLDING up the 360 version???

Say it isn't so!

LOL...

IcarusOne6231d ago

And the rest of you got a game that played like something from last gen.

Remember when the Sony crowd said graphics were overrated and gameplay was where it's at? Where's KZ's co-op? Where's KZ's stat tracking? Where's KZ's online community? Where's KZ's replay feature? Where's KZ's split-screen? So many questions. So many disappointing answers.

ZuperAmazingCooKie6231d ago

"Multi-disc? More for my money. "

Lol you're actually getting less content or the same content in lower quality, or repeated content over multiple discs, not to mention that DVD9 is not scratch resisting like Blu-ray discs are.

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- Ghost of Sparta -6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

When asked if development of the Xbox 360 version had begun, Kitase told VideoGamer.com: “When it comes to the basic engine it's likely we are going to keep them on the go simultaneously. But the finishing touches, the details, the PS3 version will be completed first, then we will move on to 360.”

“We will have to wait until we are done with the PS3 version,” Kitase added in response to being asked whether the finishing touches on the Xbox 360 version had begun.

Thank you for reminding me of what was already confirmed in 2008.

eagle216232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

All I care about is when PS3 owners get to play OUR game (on 1 disc). I might even import it and enjoy it this fall like millions of Japanese gamers. Before Microsoft takes the fun out of the game in favor of lame PR stunts and bogus claims. :)

badz1496232d ago

is already taking TOO long to even come out in Japan, let alone worldwide! the intention of making it multiplat is another story but the game itself is already wearing its hype off! they got to do something thus releasing the demo in Japan as to make sure that the hype don't just die because of the waiting they made people doing! luckily FF is a big franchise and there seem a lot of people still anticipating and willing to wait for another year! yeah I said it...for another fvcking year! as for me, it's already a no buy because turn based RPG is not my type but KH style action RPG is! I was excited for FFvsXIII but I think that's a no go either untill FFXIII is released! pfft...why the hell did SE spend their time releasing several CRAP on 360 and not focusing on completing FFXIII quicker? they are not doing their reputation any justice at all!

edhe6232d ago

Just because they're sqenix doesn't make them FF games.

You should be happy they're testing the market. They'll learn alot more about the current state of the consumer by releasing these games than if they just dropped it in an untested market.

What they learned was that there's a good 360 market for JRPGs.

Anon19746232d ago

..and the rumors that the 360 version was holding back the release of the PS3 version, I think this article has merit. Last I heard “We're making the PS3 version first, and then porting to the 360 later.”

If it's a duplicate story, say it's a duplicate story and provide a link. I couldn't find where this was reported before.

Kushan6232d ago

The engine is being developed simultaneously, but the game is not. There's a distinct difference between the two.

If the Engine is developed correctly, when the game is "done" for one platform, there's not that much left to do for another platform. It's almost literally a case of running through it and replacing all the Sony logos with Microsoft ones and all the PS face buttons with Xbox ones. Then you've got things live Achievements in place of Trophies (which is probably built into the Engine anyway) and whatever TRC requirements MS has (That's basically a checklist of things the game must adhere to before MS will release it - Sony has them too, but they'll differ in places). Really, the conversion won't take all that long and while they're doing it, the game will be translated. In fact, the translation will likely take as long anyway and since programmers and translators are mutually exclusive, it's fair to say that there wont be any additional delay because of the 360.

If you want to import the game from Japan, good on you, I just hope you can speak Japanese =P

BISHOP-BRASIL6232d ago

Not really. This exactly the same old info in a bit more clear (but obvious) way.

360 version will still be worked after PS3 version.

The case is they have a multiplatform engine. Not only that, they are planning to use this to make a multiplatform game. Multiplatform engines are a way to cut costs, since it runs code in a way both consoles should be able to reproduce it. But not necessarily every piece of code is the same for both consoles. But everything that is really multiplat, have to work properly on both consoles, so all that fits into this probably have been tested in their engine in a powerful PC and even in both consoles. Everything that is console especific will be worked on PS3 first and ported to 360 after.

There is no economical sense in making a game totally in one console, using all of its potential, if you have a plan to launch also in other consoles, will have lots of problems and the port will look gimped. Specially if you own a multiplat engine already.

That was the reason why Bioshock had PS3 code identified on PC version. Lot's of work started on PS3 after the 360 and PC versions were out, but the main multiplatform code on the engine was already there.

Now think about FFXIII were there is rumored simultaneous release planned for PS3 and 360 outside of Japan (rumored because I never saw official info about that, but I don't doubt it will be simultaneous), obviously there is already multiplat code that work on 360 in FFXIII, even more than in Bioshock case, Japanese release is just around the corner, this multiplat code have to work as precisely as all the rest of the code, not to mention that not having this working would hold American/Eropean release.

Thinking they are only working on PS3 is delusional. Since last E3, it's a multiplat game, so the nearest of "working in PS3 first" is that they are working in the PS3-centric code plus the multiplat code, which is PS3 code as much as 360's.

Kushan6232d ago

The team behind the engine are not going to be the same team behind the game. In fact, for the team behind the game, most of the console specific stuff will be pretty transparent to them.

Take this rather unscientific, baseless example:

Say on a 360, to draw a cube on screen, you'd use the following function:

X360_DrawCube();

And on the PS3, say it's this function:

PS3_DrawCube();

Somewhere in WhiteEngine's code, it'll have it's own Cube drawing function, something like this:

WE_DrawCube();

and inside that function, it'll look a bit like this:

WE_DrawCube()
{
#ifdef PS3
PS3_DrawCube();

#elseif X360
X360_DrawCube();

#endif
}

So to the FFX13 programmer who just wants to draw a cube on screen, he'll just call WE_DrawCube(); He doesn't need to know how to do it on PS3 or 360 and he doesn't need to know about the differences between the two. That's the entire purpose of a good Engine. So when they say "the engine is developed on both systems at the same time", then chances are the vast majority of it will work on both consoles. In fact, they've probably got FF13 builds on 360 dev kits right now, just nobody's concentrating on fixing any 360 specific bugs, or doing 360 specific artwork or 360 specific stuff just yet. Most of it will be done when FF13 is done, though.

DNAgent6232d ago

I'd rather wait for a GOOD RPG. No need for me to play yet another mediocre game by Square-Enix. This game will just be thrown in with the rest of their garbage.

II Necroplasm II6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

I keep telling you this is News4Gamers! Sir, i think you are lost again.

ultimolu6232d ago (Edited 6232d ago )

Dude...that's a pretty stupid thing to say.
FFXIII will most likely be a great game along with Versus.

PeptoBismol6232d ago

DNA, maybe you should buy a next-gen console first before commenting

cmrbe6232d ago

If you have a look at the latest Demo you will see that SE have infact did well with FF13 sofar.

However if they messsed up like they did with their previous games sofar.

I will be there inline with you to bash them.

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Nihilism6232d ago

i remember a while back they said that this game was made with pc tools, and i thought that meant that they could also be releasing it for pc, so sad that they're not, i'd still be playing final fantasy games long after the consoles died if they did

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Einhander1972887d ago

FFXIII is actually one of the best Final Fantasy games.

I also sort of was disappointed at the time, never as much as the bandwagon. But really all the fantastic 3D rendered cutscenes and I actually liked the characters and the story though convoluted was actually fantastic and the ending was extremely emotional. So much budget and time were put into that game Square had such big plans, I actually have always felt kind of bad for how things played out.

I have been thinking for years how great it would be to get all three games on one disk for PS4 or 5.

Nyxus887d ago

I always liked this game, and I agree, a rerelease for current gen would be nice.

Shane Kim886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

Gotta take off the nostalgia glasses. It's the worst FF. Shiva as a bike, I mean come on.

Elda886d ago

Shiva as a bike is strange but saying FFXIII is the worst FF is not at all a fact, that's simply your opinion.

Terry_B885d ago

*One of the 3 equally bad FF's

DivineHand125886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

When I got my series X a year ago, I bought FF13 for nostalgia reasons but ended up being disappointed. When I first played it around the time it launched, I didn't have a lot of experience with final fantasy games, so I enjoyed it. Fast forward to when I played it again, I found that the game had many unnecessary filler moments instead of just giving us meaningful content.

The game is also very linear and a quote on the article said it best. "It is like a sewage pipe that leads to the ocean until it opens up on Grand Pulse."

The story didn't make much sense either and I believe it is my mistake as I played the FF7 remake on PS5 prior which is a night and day difference in terms of pacing, storytelling and likeable characters even though cloud is aloof.

FinalFantasyFanatic886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

Probably was a mistake to play any of the golden era FFs first (e.g. FF6 through FF10), it makes it harder to enjoy some of the FFs that aren't as good. I think FF12 was where major issues with the series started becoming apparent, and it just got worse from there.

FinalFantasyFanatic886d ago (Edited 886d ago )

I didn't really care for it that much, the only saving grace was that it had a better story than 15 (overall it was better than 15) and possibly 12, and even then, you had to read some of it through primers, like reading a book. Plus the battle system was reasonably fun for what it was, even if it was more the spectacle that was exciting for me (e.g. summoning). And to be fair, the 13 trilogy got better with every games, I still don't like Snow though.

Gamingsince1981886d ago

Ff13 is only good if you haven't played a ff before, or any other games that are decent for that matter.

-Foxtrot886d ago

It is in fact no way the best Final Fantasy game, it's one of the worst

Linear corridors, Cutscene, Fight, Cutscene...rinse and repeat

Dialogue and characters are pretty bad, especially Lightning as the main FF hero, they literally said they tried to make a "Female Cloud" and they failed.

Story was pretty awful

I could go on

I think the only alright thing that came from the game was the music.

Elda885d ago

That's not a fact that's your personal opinion. The game sold 11 million copies between its 2009 release up until 2014 including critically reviewed as an 8 out of 10 or an 80 out of 100. The game does have some issues but it's not at all a fact as one of the worst FF games.

-Foxtrot885d ago

Elda

Not just mine mate

A large majority

So….

Traecy885d ago

N4G commenters such as yourself aren't the majority. The game was well received.

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gold_drake887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

i liked the game alot but i didnt like how they handled the terminology.

i dont mind reading data logs but it had soo many.

but i always loved the music and how it looked. the battle system wasnt too bad either.

but i like 13-2 more :)

i still dont understand why we never got a remaster of the trilogy

Eonjay885d ago

Xbox kinda did. Besides the video files of course which are still best on PS3 due to bluray.

Snookies12887d ago

XIII is a pretty solid game, but XIII-2 is WAY better. XIII-2 was one of the few games I decided to go for a Platinum trophy in, early on. Had so much fun the entire way through getting it too!

Eonjay886d ago

Totally agree. FF 13 was okay but 13-2 is my favorite FF game ever.

shinoff2183887d ago (Edited 887d ago )

I hated this to when it released. I haven't much liked a ff game since ff10 as much , aside from ff7remake. I decided to give it another shot on my series x since it's not on a current ps and was liking it quite a bit(just takes me some time to get over things ) until star ocean 2 remake came out I was all over that.

Square should definitely remaster it or something for ps4 ps5

KillerB886d ago

my favorite jrpg trilogy ever

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