@Brandon

I hate to tell you this, but... ps3 version has lag issues so far. It is still an early build, but they have 4 programmers working on the ps3 version and 1 working on the 360 version. 360 version doesnt have the loss of frame rate issues. I know this because I work for a company that is partners with crytek. We use the cry engine 2. It was also displayed at GDC to have those issues. But this is what the guys at crytek told us.

These are not new! Heck most arnt even of Cryengine 3......one of them is and its from the trailer so isn't exactly 'new'.

Why do people keep posting cryengine 2 PC shots and saying they are from Cryengine 3? Shot 2 is about 2 years old, shots 3 and 4 are from a cryengine 2 mod, 5 and 8 are from PC I think and 7 is old.

Exactly, what's wrong with progress? We should want games to keep one-up'ing each other cause it's the gamers who win in the end.

So LinuxGuru, if 4 years from now Killzone 2 was the best looking game you would be happy?

I know it's a good thing, I'm just being realistic. I made a comparison of textures between console CryEngine 3 and Killzone, which so far seem about equal. Meaning...not so good on some things yet awesome on others.

I'm not butthurt, I'm just being realistic. A lot of work went into the Killzone engine, and it's going to take a lot of work for anyone to fully top it. That's the reality of the situation, sorry if that seems defensive of it or anything, but that's just how it is.

Uncharted 2, CryEngine 3 game, and whatever else is coming in the future is going to have to do a lot, very well, to completely top KZ2's graphical prowess.

We'll see. I'm excited for the graphical and interactive (physics and such) future of videogames.

Now physics, on the other hand....Red Faction Guerilla totally owns that category right now. Walking through a building with a 30-foot tall construction mech ala 'i, Robot' is absolutely amazing...nothing will top that for a long time, in my opinion.

The same way Naughty dogs streaming algorithm found itself in Killzone2. It wont find its way to any multiplatform games. But the advancements in deferred rendering have found themselves in titles like GT Prologue, and Motorstorm2, which boasts vector blur as well. I forget the name of the procedure to do normal maps on the ground, but they also share that with kz2. the devs have even stated "dont be surprised if you see our technology in other thing s like racing games." Which can be found in the behind the scenes interviews.

kz2's texture issues are minimal compared to the entire picture painted frame by frame. If you find a low poly rock in Crysis, it means the same thing. Nothing at all, because the entire frame is doing something thats impossible on other consoles at the moment -- And are ages beyond anything multiplatform engines can currently produce. Its a bit of a non issue, especially for the 1.0 version of the engine.

as far as the story:

These screens are old, and some are from pc mods for crysis. The story is bubkiss.

Ive seen a trailer and these screenshots, and thats enough to tell me that these graphics are very very good and definetly rival Killzone 2...

And whats with the Disagrees. I cant wait till a game surpases Killzone 2 graphics, as I love to see technology advances in action. Do you honestly think Killzone 2 is going to be the best we see this gen ?? Better graphics is always a good thing...

Please tell me, what game doesnt have crappy textures when you go really close to the wall? Crysis definately has its fair share of "crappy" textures. Though i fail to see the big deal since your not supposed to smear yourself all over the walls. Only reason people complain about textures in KZ2 is because its an FPS and it has the best graphics on consoles. Fact is that if Gears of War was an FPS you would instantly notice that alot of the textures look like crap when you look at them up close. Its just that you never do that in a third person shooter so you live under the illusion that the textures are better when they probably are significantly worse.

Also, id say the city images we have seen from Cryengine 3 doesnt stack up with what we've seen from KZ2. Im curious how lush green environments would look like on the KZ2 engine. I think it could rival Crysis for sure.

You do realize that the main feature of Killzone 2 was it's lighting, correct? Because textures were absolute sh*t in that game. And yes, I played through it like 3 times. The gun models were very nice too. But when I was roaming through Far Cry 2 just on my Xbox 360... I was blown away. Killzone 2's lighting is what set it.

I have no doubt in my mind that Cry Engine 3 is going to massacre Guerrilla Engine.

Lets see what it actually does 'in game' on a console before deciding one way or the other.

Yes KZ2 had bad looking textures in some cases the textures were blocks like on barrels and stuff the lighting hid the way the game really looks.

The majority of these screens, save for a couple are from old CryEngine 2 PC builds and a mod of that engine as well.

So no...you can't base your argument off those screens.

Wow, here we go again. Comments like Linux Guru are so far out to left field, it is amazing people write this type on garbage.

Cry 3 Engine is noticably better in virtually every aspect than the one used with Killzone 2, miles ahead, "No", but definitely better. LinuxGuru starts to spill his gibberish by saying that "I made comparison of textures between console CryEngine 3 and Killzone" Bahahahahaha!!!!! What a load of trash this is, he hasn't made any comparison what so ever because all he has is a few pictures on the internet of the Cry 3 Engine. I doubt he even has a HD monitor to play his PS3 on.

LinuxGuru sounds like a pathetic fanboy writing crap like this because not only will this be on the PS3, but also the 360. And he doesn't like that.

I am looking forward to this engine coming out soon, and we will start to see what the 360 and PS3 are really capable of.

Heavy Rain with GT give all games so far Run for their Money :)

Killzone 2 is the best looking game! Get over it! These guys rent it and take it to a buddies house and stand close to walls and examine textures. I personally didn't notice any bad textures, I was busy enjoying it! The game is full of action, so I'm not sure when you get the chance to examine.

Well, I reckon nothing wrong with progress, as long as the Best Progress is always being displayed on a fanboy's console of choice, only then, could they sleep or be at ease. You know how it is.

"Killzone 2 is the best looking game! Get over it! These guys rent it and take it to a buddies house and stand close to walls and examine textures."

You don't have to stand close to a wall to notice the bad textures in Killzone 2... They kinda pop out at you.

The only thing here old and worn thin is the Unreal engine!!!

The argument is only like that cause of how long the Unreal engine has been old and worn thin!