What piddle software did Sony release for the ps2? Ico, Shadow of the Colossus,dark cloud 1 and 2, the gran turismos, killzone,the ratchet and clanks and let's not forget the god of wars, they put out quality regardless of whether they are winning, unlike nintendo.

Dude, IE8 is not mandatory. I'm still running IE7 and I'm fine. My dad is using IE6 on his XP PC and he's fine. Granted, I'm typing this on Firefox cause Microsoft isn't forcing me to use IE.

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I agree for most of your post , except that silly and weird PS2 blurb .

Care to shine a light upon those horrible sony ps2 game ? from the top of my head i can only name Killzone1 , and that was at least a treat for the eyes ,even if a mediocre game .

Otherwise pretty much every year , Sony pushed the console hard with hits .

I never said they didn't release ANY good software for the PS2. That's why they are a great company; Sony has managed to build a great 1st party development backbone, but there were plenty of shovelware allowed on the PS2... in other words they never pushed for innovation till the Xbox started picking up steam. Sony had to release Killzone in response the Halo's growing popularity. SOTC, is a great game, just not a mainstream hit.

I digress... Sony THEMSELVES have always released good games... but nothing strong and interesting with such mainstream appeal as their upcoming line up, not in a long while.

ummm... You know the EU has an interesting way of attacking IE since you need IE to even download Firefox, Opera, or even Safari which is also fixed Macintosh's operating system. So who next EU, Macintosh too??

I still disagree , i mean look already at your example Killzone really for pushing innovation ?
I didnt much change in Sony's game before and after xbox , besides precisely Sony mistakenly trying to compete with Killzone 1 ...

They always had that strong line up you speak of , just no real competition in front of them ... xbox 1 included .

Your argument however becomes true when it comes to ps3 , where they blew it at first , became pretentious and too confident , fell victim as well of too much and yet expected bias , and now brings again their A game .

Aside from not being forgiven for asking $700 for the PS3, I'd really love to know what real mistakes Sony's made. Calling them out on 3rd party shovelware doesn't cut it.

Meanwhile you've got MS with the RRoD and how they handled that, not to mention calling the monopolizing act of buying DLC and treating it as if its innovation.

If they don't want it pre-installed just be fair have a program that list browsers etc that people can select what browser they want from the list and the OS installs it.

If your gonna bundle IE bundle in the OS bundle other browsers as well. That way when a user clicks internet it puts up options to install one of the other free browsers.

NO MORE ANTI-TRUST if Firefox and Chrome is bundled with the OS as well.

The early days of the internet when providers offered discs that offered a rudimentary connection and access to several actual browsers? Netscape was well on the way to claiming the #1 spot as AOL lost popularity, then suddenly MS restricted access to several Window applications and anything else crashed and burned overnight. Literally.

That's how MS handles competition. Not by making any kind of improvements with their products.