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G.E.'s Breakthrough Can Put 100 DVDs on a Disc

General Electric says it has achieved a breakthrough in digital storage technology that will allow standard-size discs to hold the equivalent of 100 DVDs.

The storage advance, which G.E. is announcing on Monday, is just a laboratory success at this stage. The new technology must be made to work in products that can be mass-produced at affordable prices.

But optical storage experts and industry analysts who were told of the development said it held the promise of being a big step forward in digital storage with a wide range of potential uses in commercial, scientific and consumer markets.

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jack who6242d ago

boo ray? still think your needed?

MURKERR6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

this is research may go into production may not,it would be a while before you see it if ever..

Parapraxis6242d ago

http://www.theregister.co.u...
Call/Recall has announced it is developing a 1TB optical drive and disk, backwards compatible with Blu-ray

Fishy Fingers6241d ago (Edited 6241d ago )

Jack, just for you.

"The recent breakthrough by the team, working at the G.E. lab in Niskayuna, N.Y., north of Albany, was a 200-fold increase in the reflective power of their holograms, putting them at the bottom range of light reflections >>>readable by current Blu-ray machines.<<<<" ; BR players, NO mention of DVD/CD.

Please bear in mind this is not a complete tech. Much work is yet to be done just to get it to function correctly, let alone gain any form of support.

The Lazy One6241d ago

light sensitivity isn't really format specific. You're going to need a new player to use these regardless of whether you have a blu-ray or DVD player. That was just comparing the sensitivity of the sensors to blu-ray.

still want to know read speeds :(

Christopher6241d ago (Edited 6241d ago )

How fast can you read one of these new G.E. discs? Is it faster than Blu-ray?

Why would a new format that can hold 500 GB be used over an existing format that already has discs in the production mode (not the experimental, we finally got it to read mod) that can hold 400 GB with the current disc readers that can have their firmware updated?

What is the cost of this new format when taken into consideration not just getting to the point where it can be read, but creating components that can read/write it?

There are way too many unanswered elements here that make it unlikely to believe that this will replace Blu-ray, let alone make it to the next stage.

The article is the typical, hey, look at this new technology that may never see the light of day type of article.

Also, read the article carefully.

>>>When Blu-ray was introduced in late 2006, a 25-gigabyte disc cost nearly $1 a gigabyte, though it is about half that now. G.E. expects that when they are introduced, perhaps in 2011 or 2012, holographic discs using its technology will be less than 10 cents a gigabyte — and fall in the future.<<<<

The above translates into:
Blu-ray 25 GB (at release) = $25
Blu-ray 25 GB (now) = $12.50
G.E. 500 GB (expected) = $50

Blu-ray is also more than capable enough in storing the majority of biomedical imaging data on a 40 GB disc, let alone with the upcoming 400 GB discs.

fossilfern6241d ago

Me thinks you should get a job and afford a true console :)

Trebius6241d ago

Because more than half the people I know with 360s are either my friend's children, or my friends with no jobs.

phosphor1126241d ago

CD has the slowest data transfer rate.

Avg Speeds
CD < DVD < BD

Max Speeds

CD < BD < DVD

Also, putting all the data on the CD would be extremely costly regardless of the cost of the actual CD.

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PirateThom6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

It's unlikely this will ever reach production, especially because Pioneer already had a 500GB Blu-ray disc a year ago.

http://www.trustedreviews.c...

If these ever come to light, which is going to see the market first?

Elven66241d ago

If neither of the discs offer full backwards compatibility (ie my current Blu Ray player can play back all 500GB of data) then it will be anyones game, in otherwords a new format war.

Christopher6241d ago

Pioneer said that PS3s could be updated to read the 400 GB discs, as well as other devices that could have their firmware updated.

PirateThom6241d ago

Yeah, from what I recall, 100GB discs will work with no problems after a firmware update, so they're currently working on getting the higher capacity discs to do the same and, hopefully, keep the format evolving.

That said, for consumer use, a 500GB disc won't really be that useful, it will be great for back up and storage at a commercial level though, especially if disc rot doesn't set in.

ThatArtGuy6241d ago

Problem is that Warner Bros. will STILL use 25GB Blu-Rays for their movies even if a 500GB version is available.

Elven66241d ago

They were never fully clear on that, they would always avoid the full question when asked. They could simply be saying only the first two layers are readable without a hardware upgrade, again to my knowledge they have never come out to clarify this.

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ApocalypseShadow6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

but it's not really any bigger than the pioneer 400 gig disc.

http://www.google.com/url?s...

and this was in 2008.it also doesn't stop companies from making bluray holographic discs.

and sorry 360 fans,this G&E disc still can't be used on xbox 360.finding new and innovative disc technology articles that may surpass bluray still won't matter as you can't use any of them unlike ps3's potential to use every new bluray disc.

EDIT:d@mn pirate tom!they are already on 500 gigs?bluray just keeps on truckin.even i'm behind the progress.WOW!

apocalypse..............

ApocalypseShadow6241d ago

SUPER WOW!!!

it's no longer a truck but a super train.and potentially compatible with existing bluray players like ps3?

there you go again bluray.seriously bluray haters,you can't win with these,"i found a better optical disc over bluray articles."

pirate and para have shown you the winning format can match and beat any competitor to the throne.

apocalypse................... ......

OC_MurphysLaw6242d ago

Is, will this require a new player? Or will this disc play on a standard DVD player....

And if the later is true...then yes... Sony should be very concerned for Blu Ray. But that is a big "if" at this point.

PirateThom6242d ago

It requires a new player, but they think they can make them cheaply.

Fishy Fingers6241d ago (Edited 6241d ago )

Actually, these discs can be read by current BR players.

"readable by current Blu-ray machines." So perhaps, they'll become compatible.

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Killer2020UK38d ago

Oh my, that is one gaudy design

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EasySMX D05 review

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"It's Just So Lame" - RTGI Modder Thinks DLSS 5 Is Impressive But Shares AI Slop Sentiment

Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.

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CrimsonWing6965d ago

I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.

isarai_lee64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good

blacktiger64d ago

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.

Chard64d ago

Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether

theshizer64d ago

If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.

isarai_lee64d ago

And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?

blacktiger64d ago

You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.

In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.

Andrew33664d ago

Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet

Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet

isarai_lee64d ago

Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install

VS

The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.

Not at all the same but nice try

jwillj2k464d ago

At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.

Andrew33664d ago

The good news is you can just not use it as well.

Christopher64d ago

It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.

Urrakia3464d ago

All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"

I think we all know how that ended up.

Popsicle64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.

DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.

blacktiger64d ago

Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!