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Do Improved Graphics Outweigh Reliability?

GameCritics writes:

"My wife bought me the PS3 collector's edition of Resident Evil 5 on the day it came out. She knew that I hadn't yet decided which system I wanted the game for, and that I might end up trading it out, but she figured it would be a nice surprise to bring it home on release day anyway. (And yes, it was a really great surprise.)

The crux of my indecision came down to deciding between better graphics on a crappier system or slightly worse graphics on a more reliable system. My wife warned me that I might regret getting the 360 version if the system died. But my 360 (my second console after my first died over a year ago) had been pretty stable for a while without any problems.

I eventually decided to go with the 360 version because of the marginally better graphics and (somewhat importantly) the fact that inventory management in split-screen co-op mode is easier on the 360. So we swapped out the PS3 version and started playing. Everything was going fantastically until the unthinkable happened. At this point, it should be pretty obvious where I'm going with this, but I'll press on with the story."

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Shadow Flare6208d ago

"Better graphics on a crappier system or worse graphics on a more reliable system"

Or the TRUTH: Better graphics on a more reliable system or worse graphics on really unreliable system. AKA. The poor man's playstation 3

chaosatom6208d ago

What Improved Graphics?

LOL.

The Matrix6207d ago

People, if you INSTALL the game on your 360 and take precautionary measures for your 360 (give plenty of room for air, stand vertically) you will NOT get the red rings of death. The people that get the rrod are the idiots who cram their 360 in with their TV entertainment set or leave their 360 on all night or don't install their game.

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crck6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

How is inventory management easier on the 360 in split screen co-op? I would think they would be the same... Seems like this guy just wanted to buy it for the 360 and is coming up with any excuse he can think of. Which is fine but don't write about it as if it was fact. Multiplat games are about 98% identical at this point. If you want to sit there and lick the screen or try and count frames per second that's fine. But I think the vast majority of people would be too busy playing the game.

Genesis56207d ago

My friend has the 360 version and I have the PS3 version. We have seen each other playing it and both agree there is absolutley no difference in graphics.

GWAVE6207d ago

It's funny how people still pretend that the 360's graphics on multiplatform game are better in any significant way. I mean, since the 360 has no exclusives that look better than PS3 games, I guess you have to resort to a lie that claims multiplatforms look better.

I mean, c'mon kids. It's not 2007. The days of multiplatform games being superior on the 360 are over. Both versions are identical.

raptorjacob6207d ago

@ the matrix.

you shouldnt have to worry where you place you game console. as long as it isnt in a drawer with no air to get to it, you should be able to play your games without worry. there is something wrong with the console when you are calling people idiots for placing their console in their entertainment shelf.

Kushan6207d ago

Anyone that claims there's a difference in the graphics is a fanboy. The games are identical, both versions use the same models, same textures, same everything. If there's a difference, it's a difference in the technology behind how it's drawn to screen, but neither is any better than the other, at least not on 3rd party games.

FarEastOrient6207d ago

@The Matrix

Funny how that I still have 3 dead Xbox 360s even though I'm a programmer than runs my computer room at 68-70 degrees and still have two RRoD and one E74. I also have to PS3s that are still running just fine in the same room along with 4 other computers, 6 monitors, 2 servers, and 3 HDTVs.

Next time don't generalize and show some intelligence...

morganfell6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

The Matrix, that is absolutely incorrect.

http://i39.photobucket.com/...

I have had 5 360s so far. 2 died in that spot, 1 died on an open shelf mounted on the wall that only had the 360 sitting on it, and 1 refurb was dead out of the box. There is plenty of room around the 360 and they still continue to go belly up.

By the way, Neo used a PS3.

truehunter6207d ago

Tell me how to install the game with my friend Arcade model ??

O Dont tell me he needa cought up $$ for HDD. Great now your made a huge let down.

Ixxat6207d ago

I have this for my 360 and my PS3, I grabbed it first for the 360, however I kept getting "Clean Disc" error, and this is on a new 360 Arcade bundle. So I decided to buy it for my PS3, so far no problems with the PS3, it loads faster, it doesn't give me stupid errors and looks the same in 1080p... not to mention, since I don't have an Xbox Live gold membership I can play online for free and use my Jawbone headset.

Agent VX6207d ago

Oh Yawwnnnn!!! Of course the multiplat games look and run better on the 360, anybody denying this is just a silly goofy fanboy. The "Vast" majority of mulitiplat games are better on the 360, that is just "Fact".

But as the poor crappy workmanship of the 360, I doubt that I will ever buy a console from MS again. It is completely unforgivable that MS built a console so poorly.

This is just fact that crappy stuff manufactured in China is nothing but crap. I haven't had the horror of sending in my 360 in multiple times, only once. And that is already too much.

Both the PS3 and 360 have disappointed massively, and thank god I have a decent PC to play games on. Screw both Sony and MS.

agentace6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

@crck
theres a glitch that can only be done on the 360 with the inventory, thats why he wanted it because he wanted to cheat and copy all his items over & over again to sell, what a n00b

@FarEastOrient
dam, i want your room

I did not murder him6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

http://www.eurogamer.pt/gal...

Expected

Look at the textures and resolution differences.

I think GWAVE wanted to say how can people pretend PS3 is now performing on the same level.

Loyal RE5 fans won't care which is better and anti MS supporters exaggerate 360 hardware pretending rrod is a epidemic effecting current machines.

morganfell6207d ago

People can easily say the PS3 is performing BEYOND the 360 when the best looking titles this generation belong to the PS3. That iusn't even a subject for debate.

Multiplatform is a mixed bag depending on the developer. You can go back to Oblivion near the beginning of the PS3 launch and asked who got the best looking version. This has occurred numerous times. GTAIV was huge last year. Who received the best looking version?

HighDefinition6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

I love my PS3 and 360 too.

But, the PS3 has left the 360 far behind when it comes to the performance of exclusive title. Multiplats, I can 100% say would look better if they were exclusive to the PS3 (like GTAIV). For instance, Mass Effect, Fable2 and Lost Oddessy, GeoW1/2 (which are all great gamess) don`t even come close to the OVERALL performance of games like Uncharted or KZ2 when it comes to Lighting, Physics and Graphics. How well both of those games perform in total out does anything on the 360. Nothing even comes close.

morganfell6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

No, the PS3 is now beyond the 360 says ever objective critic and analyst on the planet. You don't like the truth so you seek to alter it. Due to the entirely laughable comments it does not represent you in a kind light and only serves to tarnish and invalidate any worthwhile remarks you do offer.

As much as PS3 fans are waylaid concerning the "just wait and see" phrase it is humorous to watch you attempt to use the same tactic. The more you struggle to defend your position the deeper you dig your own hole. You are now at the point we can just kick dirt on you, drop a stone at one end and be done with you. The best part? We never had to pick up a shovel. You did all of the work.

I did not murder him6207d ago

Come on man you really think if MS had 100 people working on Killzone 2 for 5 years they couldn't do for the 360.

Killzone 2 is old news Operation Flashpoint 2, Lost planet 2 Bioshock 2, COD MWF 2, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell will be the new milestones.

ZuperAmazingCooKie6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

"Uncharted and Killzone 2 claims are myths..."

Fanboys love to exchange the term myth with the term reality as evidenced here:

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

"... in reality multi platform games nor and in the near future have already proved more advanced."

Nothing more than baseless speculation from a fanboy with no empirical evidence to back his claims. You sound a lot like "Why dis", is it a coincidence? I think not.

morganfell6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

Allow me to borrow from you,

"Come on man. You don't think with a dedicated team the PS3 would have had better textures and rid us of the ridiculous elevator in Mass Effect?"

Coulda, shoulda, woulda, dreams cast on the waters to be carried out to see (sea). It does no good to theorize what might have been. We have what is and the fact is the 360 is graphically overwhelmed by the PS3.

And you are quite wrong. Heavy Rain and God of War III will be the new milestones.

Blitzed6207d ago

I did not Murder Him/ POG/ WhyDis- do you really think you're fooling anyone on this site? In 3 weeks you'll be down to 1 buble and we will have another all-new trolling account.

You made the same KZ2 bashing claims under you're WhyDis and your're POG account yet no-one could find you're supposed WhyDis1 PSN ID anywhere on Killzone.com.

So-PSNID to confirm you're claims of playing the game or please STFU.

You dont even troll on an intelligent level. This site could significantly benefit from IP banning.

kwicksandz6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

I cant believe the SDF still deny RE5 is worse on ps3. The comparison is clear as day!!! Dont let the sony soldiers lie like that

And i also would agree that multi plats are at or surpassing the graphics bar that is so often boasted about on this site. RE5 for instance =)

I did not murder him6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

If you say so I have no idea what you are talking about.
RE5 looks better on the 360 no need for you guys to change the subject. Sour grapes bashing won't make RE5 and most other games look better on the PS3.

@Thankz KwickSandz. I have never been in such a twisted place. I noticed the more you try to keep it real the more the PS3 fans try to trash you.

morganfell6207d ago

And putting on blinders and avoiding the argument on which you tossed gasoline and lost will not change the subject. The next gen graphics crown easily belongs to the PS3 and forthcoming PS3 titles will only cement that fact.

As regards multiplatform titles, the most technologically advanced engine on the horizon is the Rage engine and we have all heard who is getting the better looking version there.

As far as dedicated platform titles, it's clear. Welcome to the Playstation Nation.

Blitzed6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

If you want to play dumb thats fine, I'll play along and ignore the fact that your new account was created the same day WhyDis went to 1 bubble, and you post the same trolling crap practically verbatim.

I never said the 360 version of RE5 doesn't look better, I wouldn't know (or really care as the difference is probably minimal and I am not playing with a magnifying glass).

I am talking about your constant bashing of KZ2- prove you've played it by posting your PSN ID so your claims of playing can be verified or STFU and stop trolling.

Ausbo6207d ago

wow n4g is a f***ing breeding ground for ps3 fanboys. I am going to play some games while you guys keep on b****ing about rrod.

Anon19746207d ago

A game could have the best graphics ever and it wouldn't matter a lick if you couldn't play it. I learned that the hard way. Since launch I've been without my 360 console 4 months due to hardware repairs. What's the use of having hundreds of dollars invested in a games library you can't play. That'll change your gaming habits in a hurry. It certainly did mine.

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CrazyOrange6206d ago

Fuuk you N4G members.

Gamer zone has become open zone

the only diffrence is, you can say "xbot" or "droids" in open zone but not in gamerzone, everything else is allowed.

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morganfell6206d ago

Oh the irony of militant's words...

pain777pas6206d ago

@Matrix LO Friggin L! Its been so long since I read that BullSh*t. Wow that was refreshing. There is no way to avoid it. They all die sometime. When I took mine in you could see that I treated the thing like gold due to the rumors then it still happened. The system is Sh#t plain and simple.

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DrWan6208d ago

how does MSFT get away with this? I don't get it. What other electronics in history has such horrible reliability

Blitzed6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

What amazes me is when the fanboys come in here and say "But there is a warranty!!!".

If I was selling you a car and said, "theres a very good chance your car is going to break down but don't worry, we'll fix it for free", would you still buy it?

http://www.youtube.com/watc...

Blitzed6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

Removed my post (I was rambling and my point was lost)

Ausbo6207d ago

dude your analogy sucks.

First off, an xbox breaking down isn't at all life threatening like a car breaking down, and it is not nearly as important.

Your going to compare something that is 200 dollars to something 20,000 dollars?
xboxs are like cars? Please spare me the laughter.

Cenobia6207d ago

@Ausbo
I know, right? It's only 200 dollars. We should totally expect electronics under $500 to break 1/3 of the time. When will these people learn that cheap isn't free.

Or maybe his anology makes perfect sense because people buy things and expect them to fudging work like they're supposed to. Nobody can spin "the RROD is okay" no matter how much they try.

Jaces6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

The only difference between the two systems is lighting and a bit of motion blur on one compared to the other.

That's it, I'm sorry if a little more lighting in one game makes it seem better than the other but that's lie and just plain fanboyish.

One more thing, M$ may have some great looking games but all of them have more than enough glitches to drive someone crazy. And these aren't simple "woopsies" you see maybe once or twice, these are throughout the entire game.

Who knows, maybe the developers were to lazy to polish the final product up. Besides, it's practically impossible to compare one game to another if they were not identically the same, ie. Killzone 2 and Mass Effect 2. Like trying to compare apples and oranges. Although we have seen one game that shows how much better it looks compared to the 360, Ninja Gaiden Sigma.

Can't deny that truth ladies and gentlemen. Two games on both systems but both made exclusively for each. And yet, PS3 comes out looking far smoother and polished.

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-x.Red.x-6208d ago

people should really stop playing on SDTVs

power of Green 6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

http://www.eurogamer.net/ar...

http://xbox.joystiq.com/200...

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

I know PS3 fanboys ignore reason, logic and truth but I posted this for smart people, idiots can ignore the links, attack and hit disagree.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

LOVE THIS ONE
http://www.eurogamer.pt/gal...

EDIT: You mean that overhyped flop?

ZombieNinjaPanda6207d ago

Power of Green:

Why don't you starting playing your games on a real HD Tv rather then using Internet videos for comparison.

Ever heard of the fact that everyone on the internet gets downgraded for streaming and download?

Internet isn't as reliable as you think it is, I only trust my eyes and my HD TV.

Sir Ken_Kutaragi6207d ago

WHAT HAPPENED!!! WHAT HAPPENED!!! ;-D

RRoD??? E74??? SCRATCHED DISC??? YEARLY TAX RUN OUT TO PLAY ONLINE??? FIRE??? WIFE RUN OFF WITH THE FIREMAN THAT CAME TO PUT THE FIRE OUT??? DOES ANYONE CARE WHAT THESE PEOPLE SAY OR DO ANYWAY??? I DON'T??? I'M NOT SHOUTING??? REALLY??? + OUT SOON ON CHATBOX 360 'NPD DLC'???

KZ2 Vs RE5(+EVERY 'ChatBox 360' Game) = KILLZONE 2 WINS!!! ;-P

[AmphetamineThomasHeckman] ;)

GiantEnemyCrab6207d ago

haha and Unicorn whips out the same blog post every droid on this site uses. Those Gears captures couldn't of been more staged to look like crap. Do you really think those horribly done screen shots represents what Gears looks like? Really?

OmarJA6207d ago (Edited 6207d ago )

LMMFAO! Unicron! GeoW 2 looks like a PS1 game compared to the first Uncharted... :D

yz2506207d ago

after the mediocre response to killzone 2, i think it's still speechless.

gamesR4fun6207d ago

man long time since i seen you post last. damn bubbles seems to have gone down a notch eh. (heres one back on me man ur a hopeless fanboi sure but at least your straight up about it n can write a cohesive sentence)

We've still got both consoles (actually teh 360 stopped reading disks a couple days ago sigh) n both copies look near identical on our hd tv but still if saying the 360 version is way better makes u happy then more power to ya.
Still think u should get a ps3 so we can get some killzone on even u gotta admit that the ps3 exclusives alone are worth the price of admission. N dont forget free online so no extra charges. :D

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swiftshot936208d ago

RE5 is awesome. Sucks he cant play it. I got the PS3 version myself and it looks and runs great. I'm on my fourth play through myself.

gamerdude116207d ago

I am confused by this guy's blog. Why doesn't he get the PS3 version and he will get improved graphics and reliability?

The Matrix6207d ago

1. Achievements and Gamerscore
2. Different, cooler friends on Xbox Live
3. Different controller (better or worse)

Those are the reasons I can think of.

HDgamer6207d ago

Those are horrible reasons. I can flip the switch and say
1. Trophies and Home rewards
2. Different, cooler friends on PSN
3. Different controller (better or worse)

Those are the reasons I can think of.

Yeah its not much different.

somekindofmike6207d ago

lol 'cooler friends on xbox live'

is that really the best to come up with to justify your choice to use an unreliable console?

morganfell6207d ago

I am unsure but I would hazard to guess most would not care for 8 year old kids screaming in their ear. Regardless of the fact you can mute them the issue is you have to in order to gain some sense of peace. It is an ever present issue on Live. The times this occurs on PSN are almost non-existent. So one can only surmise that "cooler" depends on your age and your definition of a friend.

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Best Selling Resident Evil Games US Revealed by Circana Data

Circana data shows Resident Evil 5 as the best selling Resident Evil game in the US, ahead of Resident Evil 4 remake and Village.

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SimpleDad48d ago

So the most successful RE is the one where a white man is killing Africans.
This can't be real.

bryght47d ago

i love resident evil from 2006

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Insider Reveals Cancelled Resident Evil Projects, Denies RE5 Remake

New leaks from Dusk Golem detail cancelled Resident Evil projects, including a Rebecca focused Revelations game, while stating no Resident Evil 5 remake is in development.

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__y2jb63d ago

Capcom's willingness to invest in experiments and scrap them sets them apart form many other developers (Nintendo have a similar methodology). Far too often companies push a game setting or game mechanic that is just not that good and the final product is middling or poor.

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No Resident Evil 5 Remake Announcement This Year as Code Veronica Remake Is Scheduled Next

Dusk Golem claims a Resident Evil 5 remake is not coming this year, with a Code Veronica remake expected instead.

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Neonridr87d ago

I mean 0, 1 and Code Veronica should be way before we get into 5 or 6.

Darkseeker87d ago

5 and 6 are so bad that even Capcom want to pretend they don't exist.

Levii_9287d ago

Dude Code Veronica is bad too but RE5 and 6 were mega successful and to me it makes much more sense for Capcom to do them instead. Nobody cares about Code Veronica except niche fixed camera era RE fans, i bet most modern RE fans probably don't know Code Veronica even exists. Based on all that i don't believe CV remake is coming but we will see i guess.

MehmetAlperTR87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

Actually RE5-6 was not Classic RE game.. They are not even Survival Horror game.. They are just an action game with coop and named by RE... And for me RE Code Veronica was masterpiece.. I remembered the first time i played it in Dreamcast.. It was absouletly excellent game. And specially for RE6.. I was quit from game after the camera shakes when Leon's kick to zombies.. There's a video about RE6 and they are telling the truth about that shitty game https://www.youtube.com/wat... here it is.. Enjoy it..

Neonridr87d ago

people are DYING for a Code Veronica Remake. Not sure who you are talking to, but the die-hard RE fans of the series are very familiar with every entry. That's what it means to be called a die-hard fan.

neutralgamer199287d ago

Levii

I am sure If they were to remake CV that it 2ont have fixed camera angle. I hope whatever they do they take their time like RE2/4 remakes and not rushed with cut content like RE3 remake

Before they should do RE5 they should go back and remake earlier games. In a perfect scenario we would get CV and RE/Zero before RE5/6

Tapani87d ago

Code Veronica on Dreamcast was absolutely AWESOME.

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LucasRuinedChildhood87d ago (Edited 87d ago )

It makes more sense for them to remake earlier games like Code Veronica. RE5 is a good game though - it's not THAT different from RE4.

RE5 just doesn't really need to remade in general. The co-op element makes it tricky - you'd probably add more moments where Chris is by himself enhance the horror but some would want co-op to stay.

thesoftware73087d ago

RE:5 Was and still is a great game, with hands down the best Merc mode, that I still play from time to time with my brother.

RE:6 blah, I agree, it was awful.

Redgrave87d ago

Other than Code Veronica, 6 is the one ai want to see remade the most only because pretty much everything has to be redone; can't streamline that hot mess.

DarXyde87d ago

6 was pretty bad. 5 just tried too hard in being an action-oriented RE4.

In some fairness to Capcom, 5 was the first Resident Evil on then-new hardware for them (X360 and PS3). And it was pretty damn hard to follow up RE4.

Imagine everyone's surprise when EA of all companies dropped Dead Space.

Alos8886d ago

The first half of 5 wouldn't be too hard to do in the more grounded style the remakes have gone for, but the second half gets pretty silly and uncomfortable at parts.
6 is a wash. You'd have to basically make a whole new game to salvage that one at this point.

__y2jb86d ago

6 is garbage. 5 is excellent.

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_Decadent_Descent87d ago

Hopefully if and when they do a RE5 remake, they give it the RE3 remake treatment, because this is certainly one title that I don't want a faithful remake of.

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