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What's up with Killzone 2 DLC?

Jeff Rubenstein from US Playstation.Blog writes:

"By now, you Killzone 2 multiplayer fans should be leveled up close to General. You should know how deadly the shotgun can be when Capture & Hold-ing at Radec Academy, and where to set up your sentry bots in Salamun Market. So what's next for Killzone 2 multiplayer? Put a pot of coffee on and find out tonight."

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MGOelite6249d ago

if it is co op some reviewers best change their fuking mind

Killjoy30006249d ago (Edited 6249d ago )

Well, if you take a good look at the post, you'll see he's clearly hinting at the addition of multiplayer maps or other content. He talks about how you "probably already know where to put turrets in Salamun Market."

Don't be expecting co-op, because it won't happen until Killzone 3. Sorry to burst your bubble everybody, but the chances are very slim. It pains me to rule out any chance of it, but it's pure reality. What's the last game that recieved co-op through a patch?

Anyways, I'm glad because I need some new maps to pull me away from Radec and Tharsis Depot.

sofresh2006249d ago

I hope it's new maps and weapons/ranks. I haven't played since I got RE5 and I'll boot the game up in heartbeat for some new maps.

thor6249d ago

Yeah co-op seems unlikely. The only reason they ever said that it "could be patched in" is to shut people up. Co-op doesn't matter one iota whilst you're playing single-player or multiplayer - it would be nice, as an extra, but the lack of it doesn't make the game any worse.

Think about it - they had 2 teams. One working on single-player, on on multiplayer, and it took each of them 4 years to make their bit. What makes people think that co-op will take them 2 months?

WhittO6249d ago

I have a feeling they are going to release new ranks, since you can max out your rank in a matter of hours and the blog mentioned "all of you should be the rank of General".

Would be great if they like released new ranks every month or something, would deffo keep people coming back to the game !

Killjoy30006249d ago

Well, you never know they could've been working on co-op while in the development cycle, but just weren't ready for the initial release and didn't want to push it back any further.

To be perfectly honest, co-op is just not very intriging to me outside of RSV Terrorist Hunt and RE5.

But yeah I'm sure it won't happen.

Alcon6249d ago

If his entire post was a hint then:

1)More ranks: "By now, you Killzone 2 multiplayer fans should be leveled up close to General"

2)New guns(?): "You should know how deadly the shotgun can be"

3)New maps: "and where to set up your sentry bots in Salamun Market" (maybe meaning we know all maps by hart and that more are coming)

If those three things are in the DLC I would be very happy. But I know the chances are slim (still hoping though)

BuryYourHead7076249d ago (Edited 6249d ago )

Killzone 2 was not made in 4 years.

They first had to make the engine, then the game.
The engine took up a majority of the time because I'm sure by the time that was done they had the plot, settings, and dialogue done. All they had left was to place everything in the game, create controls for your character, and polish.

Now I'm not saying this is exactly how it was done, but it makes the most sense. Plus I remember reading somewhere that Guerrilla spent the majority of the time on optimizing the engine for the PlayStation 3.

Mu5afir6249d ago

I would like more multi-player maps, and preferably better guns.. (that I would actually USE)! Let's be honest, we only really use 3 guns an any map. The snipes primary, the shooty and the default ISA gun. And some new characters wouldn't be bad either.

IdleLeeSiuLung6249d ago

Isn't developing the engine part of developing the game? I mean, I know that many developers license engines from other companies as a shortcut, but still many developers build their own engine i.e. Unreal (Epic Games), MT Framework (Capcom) and so on....

thor6249d ago

Yes building the engine is part of making the game.

Killzone 2 uses some middleware for its lighting and physics, so those weren't made by Guerrilla.

And don't forget - the co-op needs an engine to run on! The Killzone 2 engine was not designed to include co-op. All of the co-op specific engine features would need to be implemented. Many of the optimisations that they used for the single-player can't be used for co-op for various reasons. Then they have to consider server setup and how that's all going to work.

Adding co-op would require all the things that making the game in the first place required. And that's presuming they use the existing levels! Triggers need to be redone, the whole game needs to be rebalanced for co-op. If, as I suspect Guerrilla would want to do, they create all-new levels for co-op play, we're talking a massive amount of work.

What would happen if the co-op ended up rubbish because they'd rushed it? I would LOVE to see that. I would LOVE to see all the whiners saying "WAA WAAAAH PATCH IN CO-OP IT'S EASY TO DO" having to put up with a half-arsed co-op mode and complaining about that.

Think about it. They've gone from originally saying "co-op could be patched in", to "co-op will NEVER be patched in", to "we're not ruling out co-op". What does that tell you? Certainly NOT that they've been developing it all that time. Basically they've hyped their game up saying "we could do this, we could do that", then Seb's spoken too much and has revealed that they're not planning co-op, but then he's had a word from his superiors telling him to appease the fans by telling them something arbitrary like "we're not ruling it out".

y0haN6249d ago

Yeah co-op playable in current levels as free DLC, with new maps that can be played in said co-op mode as pay DLC would be sweet.

brandonk1296249d ago

wow these maps are gonna rape halo 3 up the butthole. great job on GG's part for further making the xbox 360 obselete!

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Pennywise6249d ago

Give us something special GG!!!!!!

MJY2K6249d ago

Looks like it's going to be new maps

The picture doesn't remind me of any of the current maps

The Hunter6249d ago

Thats that vissari map i think

Ghoul6249d ago (Edited 6249d ago )

its the tunnels at the start area of Visari hammer

SIX6249d ago

1.Co-op for campaign
2.More maps
3.Higher ranks

mugoldeneagle036249d ago

It needs a much deeper ranking system and more maps. That should be priority over Co-Op. I haven't played Killzone 2 in about 3 weeks and that would be the perfect add-on to put off Socom and Fallout 3 and get right back into the madness.

Online Co-Op would be big too.

GameGambits6249d ago

I don't get in any way shape or form why people want co-op. You want GG to deliver you something that will get a few hours of play rather than content that could heighten your gaming with K2 for say, months?

If the co-op mode was like Resistance 2's or Horde like in Gears of War 2, then I'm all for it, but running through the campaign again one more time with a buddy for a trophy is something I'll pass in one sitting and be done with it.

I hope they announce more maps, more weapons, more game types, more ribbons, more ranks(that take a long while to obtain), and at least one trophy that puts that carrot at the end of the stick to 10,000 kills online for a gold trophy.

Either way co-op is the last thing I want out of this big update.

PirateThom6249d ago

I'd take a Horde style mode, for sure.

Even if they had 4 people on a team taking on waves of Helghast, it would be awesome.

SIX6249d ago (Edited 6249d ago )

The best time I've ever had with an FPS was the time me and my bro went through the single player campaign on the original R1. For me, the true reward isn't a trophy or a high score. It's more about the moments when you can connect with others through a common interest. That's why co-op single player is #1 on my list.

As well, I can guarantee that if Guerilla did this they will sell more copies of the game. It's the reason why most of my friends have not purchased the game.

joydestroy6249d ago

you know, i'm not sure why people are disagreeing with you. at first i wanted co-op too, but after reading your post and thinking about it, you're right. co-op wouldn't really extend the gameplay.

more maps, more weapons, more game types, more ribbons/medals, more ranks, or even maybe more badges would be awesome!

SIX6249d ago

This quote is why he's getting disagrees,"I don't get in any way shape or form why people want co-op"

Everything else is spot on.

joydestroy6249d ago

oh, haha. gotcha.
well co-op is certainly wanted, but i think the other stuff mentioned is a little more important and i believe one, or a few, of them are more likely to be the DLC.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman573d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX573d ago (Edited 573d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne573d ago (Edited 573d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro573d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken573d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown573d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72573d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken573d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya573d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast573d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood573d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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OtterX802d ago (Edited 802d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro802d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72802d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_802d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga802d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos802d ago (Edited 802d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23802d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000802d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin802d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole802d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix802d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989802d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor802d ago (Edited 802d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989802d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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SullysCigar1106d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1106d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1106d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1106d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491106d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381106d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1106d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1106d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381106d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1106d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761106d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1106d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301106d ago (Edited 1106d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1106d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1106d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1106d ago (Edited 1106d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1106d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1106d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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