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Solid proof the PS3 is a better system

Examiner writes, "For a moment, let's ignore that the PS3 has more room for upgrades and that its potential has yet to even be near-maxed. Let's ignore that PSN is not only good as Xbox Live, but that it's free. I won't throw dirt at Microsoft over their questionable business practices (homophobia and not covering the return of defunct systems comes to mind). I'll even lay aside the fact that recently the PS3 has been rapidly gaining on the other large consoles in worldwide sales and exceeding them in some countries (Japan). I'm only going to cover capability and past performance."

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ShabzS6288d ago (Edited 6288d ago )

*waiting for the army to arrive and the war to begin*

ThatCanadianGuy6288d ago

*sits back and sips coffee*

Ohhh yeaaahh, it's gonna get wild in here.

Nike6288d ago

Put up a "Top 5 Mistakes Sony is Making with the PS3" article? So everybody at The Examiner's got a different take on the matter or what?

Marceles6288d ago

Examiner is all over the place lately

"yay we love PS3"
"boo we hate PS3"
"top mistakes that show PS3 sucks"
"proof PS3 is better"

Make up your minds.

gaffyh6288d ago

This information has been available to everyone since the PS3 was released. But fanboys always argue over, RSX is worse than 360 GPU, 360 has more RAM blah blah blah.

I think Killzone 2 is proof enough at the moment, the fact that the 360 has been out for 3 years, but every game available on it has not surpassed a game that came out 2 years into PS3's lifecycle shows which is the more powerful console.

I don't doubt that the 360 still has a lot more power available for use, but whether it will reach Killzone quality any time soon, I doubt it.

Anon19746288d ago

This article really offers nothing.

ZuperAmazingCooKie6288d ago

I am a PS3 supporter more than a 360 or Wii supporter but this article is nothing more than pure fanboy garbage. Look at the picture of the "editor", he's just a kid with no friends trying to pass off his WEAK opinion as fact and undeniable proof of PS3's superiority as a "system". Any rational gamer, 360, PS3 or Wii supporter can agree that this is bullsh1t, how did this even get approved?

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TheDude2dot06288d ago

Yeah! Dem gaes dook er jerbs!

Day dook ar jobs!

Nike6288d ago

Just like idiots will abuse the caps lock to try and be funny? Whoops, rhetorical question. Sorry.

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Monchichi0256288d ago

There can NEVER be solid proof because it's all A MATTER OF OPINION!!!! Just because it's better for you will never mean it's better for everyone!

There will always be people who think the Wii is better, the 360 is better and the PS3 is better! Just let it BE!!!

All-36288d ago

http://www.guardian.co.uk/t...

Frankly, the only views that matter in this debate are those of programmers who have experience with next-gen hardware.

So this week I spoke to Richard Hackett a head of technology at Blitz Games about his experiences with both machines. He feels that CELL has an ace up its sleeve and it's not something you might have predicted...

The debate over graphics on Xbox 360 and PS3 is still raging online, with developers coming out on both sides to claim superiority. As an independent developer how do you compare the two formats in terms of visuals? In essence the two systems are actually fairly closely matched in terms of graphics. The jump to HD is a major step up in visual quality and that is delivered by both systems. The difference between 720p and 1080i will be fairly academic for some time as there are very few mass market TVs out there at the moment that support native 1080 resolution, and I'm not sure the average consumer sees the difference between them anyway.

Is there anything you're able to do, visually, on PS3 that you can't on Xbox 360? Certain procedural effects are easier to create on the PS3 because of the power of the SPEs. Effects like water simulations, especially when you move beyond simple surface effects to fluid dynamics require the kind of algorithms that are really suited to the CELL architecture. Having said that the slightly more flexible GPU and unified memory model on X360 allows some neat tricks that level the playing field somewhat. It will be interesting to see what emerges with video processing and EyeToy as well - CELL is designed for streaming and image processing applications in mind. I think we'll see both new visuals and game play out of that.

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bnaked6288d ago

@All-3

"The team behind God of War III, Sony Santa Monica, explain that the PlayStation 3's SPU processors are much faster than many developers think they are.

In their GDC '09 keynote, titled Practical SPU Programming in God of War III, Jim Tilander and Vassily Filippov of Sony Santa Monica detailed their use of the PlayStation 3's SPUs.

The Cell processor features one main processor, PPU, and 8 specialist processors, SPUs, one of which is turned off for optimisation reasons, with another used for the PlayStation 3's OS.

In their keynote, Sony Santa Monica explained that the SPUs aren't actually coprocessors but are full general purpose processors that can handle code directly lifted from the PPU. Moreover, they aren't just fast, but they are super fast and with a little bit of help they can run code at unbelievable speeds.

In fact, the God of War III team rely on the SPUs to accelerate both the PlayStation 3's GPU (RSX) and the PPU. They then detailed the systems running on the SPUs, which include animation, cloth, collision, procedural textures, culling, shadows, push buffer generation, meta tasks, geometry conditioning, and sound. Indeed, most (if not all) of the heavy lifting is left to the SPUs.

The team concluded their talk by reiterating that developers must use the parallel nature of the PlayStation 3 and not treat SPUs as a special case, since they are much faster than you think they are."

All-36288d ago

John Carmack - you know who that is, don't you?

He says the PS3 is a --> little more powerful processing-wise... but NOTHING like almost 3xs the advantage. Carmack is the fellow behind the technology running the upcoming PS3/Xbox/PC/Mac game; Rage.

http://www.gametrailers.com...

1UP: It's interesting that you think you could do this (Metal Gear Solid 4) on 360, though.

And Hideo Kojima said --> QUOTE: Maybe some nuance or a small details here and there might be different, but I feel that hardware is no longer a matter. I'm just talking about PS3, 360 and PC. Revolution (Wii) is totally different, but there are really no differences among the other three.

http://www.1up.com/do/featu...

Saladfax6288d ago

Ugh. There is no editing or monitoring of content on the examiner, and now every single one of them seems to be whoring themselves out for hits.

I submit my stuff here fairly often, but I like to think I genuinely believe the things I write. It has become slightly shameful to be a games writer associated with the examiner.

QuackPot6288d ago

Yes, you can make mistakes and still be the better system.

They aren't mutually exclusive.

IcarusOne6287d ago

Great posts! Have bubbles! (Have you noticed people who try to be fair and balanced always end up with low bubbles? Weird...)

y0haN6287d ago

Yes folks what do you prefer, the Failbox Fee-fix-me or the DelayStation 3?

patterson6287d ago (Edited 6287d ago )

The Playstation is made of gold, diamonds and solid granite. As a result it will last a million years and never break down. It is a bargain.

The 360 however is made of cheese, newspaper and tinfoil. They will last a few months and will need replacing.

*cough* OK I can't do this. Even I have to admit this article sucks and nothing but flame bait.

bnaked6287d ago

@y0haN

i don't prefer the XBox 3FIXME

xD

SL1M DADDY6287d ago

I was an avid member of the Xbox forums and how I supported both the 360 and the PS3 and how just because I supported the PS3 as well, I was considered a troll. I remember arguing with some of the guys there about the graphical power of the PS3 versus the 360 and how they aways showed "proof" that the 360 was in fact the most powerful console in terms of graphics. I remember their greatest ammo was multiplatform titles and Gears of War. Two years later I see now who was correct in those arguments and with the proof of such games as Killzone 2 and even Uncharted, thos idiots that argued over this against me are no longer posting such arguments... I suspect they are too busy playing the PS3...

Let's all be multiconsole gamers and if the PS3 has the best looking games then so be it. If we all play multiconsole then it matters not, we all get to play the best games out there.

Oner6287d ago (Edited 6287d ago )

@ All-3 ~ Your link - http://www.guardian.co.uk/t... is from December 2006!?!?

The link from within THIS article from the Examiner - http://www.ocforums.com/sho... is MUCH more recent (as it's from 8/2008)

Read, learn/use proper CURRENT info and post accordingly to have a valid understanding and discussion of the topic/nature.

All-36287d ago

WHY should I care WHEN those articles were posted?

Have either the Xbox 360 or the PS3 hardware changed in --> ANY <-- significant way concerning --> PROCESSING? Gsus...

Do some actual research yourself and learn that EACH console has its own strengths AND weakness... and in the end --> the PS3 does NOT offer --> almost 3xs the processing power over the 360 --> concerning gameplay.

You can point to games like Killzone 2 or Uncharted or Heavy Rain, or whatever you want to... I'll point you to the upcoming multiplatform game --> Rage... and you can read what was CLARIFIED about that id Software game concerning so-called game content cuts because of the 360.

Just because the 360 has to utilize --> MULTIPLE discs vs the singular disc for the PS3 version... doesn't and WON'T make the PS3 version --> VASTLY <-- superior.

The blu-ray disc offers a SPACE advantage vs DVD-9... nobody can argue that issue - HOWEVER... the larger blu-ray disc capacity DOES NOT offer any graphical advantage over MULTIPLE DVD-9 discs that, when COMBINED --> would offer up just-as-much-capacity as the blu-ray disc.

Obviously COST per disc comes into play... so COMPRESSION will be utilized to cut down on the NUMBER of DVD-9 discs required... but compression techniques have come a long ways, and graphics do not suffer by any HUGE margin vs UNCOMPRESSED data.

A lot of PS3 game developers use/d COMPRESSION for their PS3 games... requiring blu-ray dis space for OTHER concerns --> SUCH as using SAME code to cut down on loading times because the blu-ray drive is SLOW compared to the DVD drive in the Xbox 360.

BTW - I own BOTH the PS3 AND --> the 360.

Oner6287d ago (Edited 6287d ago )

So old, outdated, misinformation is what you are going by and think is "correct" huh? Ooookaaaay...I don't need to say anything about that as it's clear as day and self explanatory in itself.

Plus how does your reply about disc space prove anything? It was blatantly off topic to try and make some weak point about the 360's short comings being limited because of DVD-9 or not? When the info I provided (that WAS from the article itself) shows more recent, up to date, proper exact info and only touched upon the DATA SPEEDS of BD vs DVD SL & DL.

Again, I have to re-iterate ~ Read, learn/use proper CURRENT info and post accordingly to have a valid understanding and discussion of the topic/nature....since it seems you have a limited comprehension of when I said it the first time.

Oh and um, I have to chuckle at what you "believe/said" about Rage when a) there is absolutely no proof (or any valid documentation) to show that it will be the "next best thing" for 360 b) IT'S MULTIPLATFORM and c) based off the fact it is multiplat it will be the same if not better on the PS3 anyway not to mention (though you tried to down play it already) there are ALREADY CURRENT titles like Uncharted 1, GT5P, Killzone 2 to name a few and quite a few others coming VERY soon like Uncharted 2, GT5, Heavy Rain, GoW3 etc. that show hands down that the PS3 has MUCH more to offer now, soon and definitely in the future...just as every Playstation model of console has before ;)

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solidsnakus6288d ago

is this even nessesary? well .. it is n4g so this is just the first one of many today.

Sheikh Yerbouti6287d ago

And you guys talk a lot of crap about the HHG. This could have been written last year - swap Killzone with Uncharted.

mboojigga6288d ago

Yet no proof was provide just a fanboy opinion. Nothing different that the same type of article since 2005. Move along everyone nothing to read.

taco_tom2376288d ago

this will get interesting =)

sugard06288d ago

*yawn* Another day, another dollar ay?

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Final Fantasy X 25th Anniversary Website Launches With New Nomura Artwork and Merchandise

Square Enix launches Final Fantasy X 25th anniversary site, revealing new Nomura art, books, music releases, and merchandise.

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-Foxtrot58d ago

Look I know VIII has its issues and all that but how on earth can the do big anniversary events with new artwork and merchandise for VII, IX and X yet VIII got sweet f*** all.

They could have given it something during its 25th anniversary yet all it got was a single Happy Anniversary post on their social media.

solideagle58d ago

they should know that we are OG fans of VIII as it sold truckload as well. not as much as VII or X. I personally didn't like IX but X and VI are my personal fav.

Shadow Hearts 2 covenant is another game I love. I hope one day someone can make remake, I would be delighted

Relientk7758d ago

Final Fantasy VIII is great and you are always the first to defend it in the comments

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15 Years Ago, Mortal Kombat (2011) Saved Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise

A brutal reset, a smarter story, and a return to what made it great—Mortal Kombat (2011) revived the series.

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italiangamer67d ago

"Gaming’s Biggest Fighting Franchise"

Press X to (seriously) doubt.

DarXyde65d ago

Underrated comment. I used to hate that game so much that any time my siblings asked me to play it, I just picked Hom and shut myself down mid-match.

Soy65d ago

And then MK1 killed it again.

DivineHand12565d ago (Edited 65d ago )

15 years went by so fast. I remember playing through the story mode at launch.

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PlayStation legend Shuhei Yoshida says Jim Ryan fired him because he didn't listen to him

Why did Sony push Shuhei Yoshida out of his role leading PlayStation's first-party games? He'd overseen some huge successes. Well, apparently, he didn't listen.

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Relientk7766d ago

Yeah I can see that for sure. Shuhei Yoshida should have been in charge not Jim Ryan.

Cacabunga66d ago

It should be free highway for him now.. but Sony are too stupid to see this, especially that moron Hulst

S2Killinit66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

Wtf why all that anger. PlayStation is dominating on every level. Besides I think there is a little more to hiring a CEO than just who is available. Its not like its a athlete your team wants to buy.

neutralgamer199266d ago

S2Killinit

live service failures, chasing trends, closing studios. yes dominating

Cacabunga66d ago

Sony is Dominating because competition is not existing. Compared to previous gens this is the poorest in terms of software offerings.

Last gen we got Uncharted 4 Lost Legacy and TLOU2 from ND alone.

This is so far a remasters gen, with no competition to lift up the quality

1nsomniac66d ago (Edited 66d ago )

..."PlayStation is dominating on every level"....

...Really???

PlayStation are soon heading into a new generation in the not to distant future. They currently have the worst customer satisfaction they've ever sustained as a company. The company is heading for a huge crash while at the same time they'll need to be planning how they are going to try and win back that favour and the build up to their new releases.

Yes financially they're winning but they're going to have to ride out this complete public corporate disaster. No one has faith in the company or the product anymore. They've damaged their public image so much this generation. Greed can kill anyone.

medman65d ago

Hulst is a disaster......

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blacktiger66d ago

He would've done the same thing and fire Jim Ryan and Shuhei would be the villain. Why?
Because Elite creates the narrative and distraction for gamers, users and citizens.

Outside_ofthe_Box66d ago

More confirmation that Jim Ryan is the culprit for what has happened to Sony. Hulst needs to go too. What sucks is that a lot of the good top heads at Sony are no longer there. I wish that guys that were forced out prematurely by Dumbo Jimbo like Shuhei and Layden came back.

robtion65d ago

Yep. Yoshida was responsible for bringing one of the best games of this generation to playstation (Stellar Blade). He is an actual gamer and is in touch with what gamers want (creative, fun games, not GaaS and agenda pushing). He also seems like a genuinely nice guy if you watch some interviews. Of course they got rid of him.

darthv7266d ago

Makes you wonder if MS even thought about hiring him after Phil and Sarah were leaving. He certainly couldn't make their situation any worse.

Agent7566d ago

Microflop. After Windows XP and Xbox 360, it all went floppy.

S2Killinit66d ago

Floppy 😆
No pun intended

badz14966d ago

Yoshida for President! Jim Ryan was and always be a hack! Sony should get Shu back

Lightning7766d ago

All the gamer/consumer lead heads are gone across PS and Xbox. shuhei gone phil's gone (questionable) but gone. The future of gaming is somewhat uncertain across the board.

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