Hey i never said you didn't own PS3.I dont dislike you or anything,just your comment sounded fanboyish.But anyways i might of been quick to jump the gun for that I apologize have a bubble!

Nobodies is better until its in a playable game. It comes down to the developer and how they use the engine. You fanboys will be bickering for the next two years until the game comes out. You can say you know but none will know until the game comes out. Period!!!!

No problem

so let's see.....you are wondering if a game engine will come out on 360 that will trump killzone2's engine?

are you talking about looks only or are you talking about multiple things happening at the same time that killzone2's engine does with good looks?

no one is saying that a good looking game can't be made on 360.the question is:

can 360 do lighting,explosions,A.I.,detai l,multiple characters,smoke effects,etc....ALL AT THE SAME TIME?

gears looks great.no one denies that.but at the cost of other things that are NOT happening at the same time.less enemies are onscreen,less players online(5vs5),less explosions,etc.

if gears engine could handle 16 vs 16 multiplayer at that level of detail,how come EPIC hasn't patched the first or second game to have those graphics and player counts at the same time?how about 20vs20?30vs30 at that detail?

same with halo3.halo3 has 16 player online play.graphically not in the same league as killzone2.even offline,the game doesn't even come close to killzone2's online game let alone offline.

bioshock has less enemies onscreen.mass effect has less enemies onscreen,we could go on and on with 360 games that are not hitting the next level.while ps3 games are pushing the limits.so either 360 developers are poor developers or 360 hasn't got the power.which is it?

again,360 has ease of development and more time on the market.what "EXCUSES" are we giving 360 if it's easier to make games on and has been out longer?

is there a reason why uncharted has longer draw distance and more color,animation and detail than gears?is there a reason why GT5 with 16 cars hits 1080p/60fps while every 360 racing game is not and is usually 720p at 30/60fps but with less cars(usually 8).?why not turn 10 patch the game to have 8 more cars?is there a reason why multiplayer games on ps3 are hitting 20vs20 or 30vs30 and 360 is not?

so now we have another multiplatform engine with no game yet that is supposed to trump ps3 exclusive games.even sony's baseball game trumps any baseball game released on 360.even if 360 still has some juice left under the hood,i would expect that ps3 would still have more under the hood to do better.

lastly,you don't here developers saying they are hitting the maximum limit on ps3 as they say they are saying with 360.the proof is games.and 360 has been out LONGER.

your thoughts?

apocalypse................... .....

games will sell more on the 360....like always...

still waiting for some ps3 games...i use my ps3 for blu-ray pretty much. online setup compared to the 360 is rubbish... all im playing is uncharted uncharted 2 and god of war 3. multis all look better on the 360 "so last gen-rofl" 2 years after the ps3 has been out and all they do is more or less try to make it a pc......but wait i already have a pc....is not like i need to browse you tube on my ps3 lol who the fudge does that.....and if you have the internet for your ps3 you obviously have a pc..

ghost of sparta dude you really need to just grow up and get your ps3 out of your bible....

edit i forgot flower was on of the best games on the ps3 so far beside uncharted......yep and thats it.

buh by killzone.....already scene a sh!tload of used copies....more than halo wars...and less than mgs4

Kushan, don't waste your time with him, I 'owned' him with fact last night, he was making stuff up about Killzone 2, a developer interview quote put him in his place.

anubis12 - if all you've played is uncharted, Shame on you.

I doubt you have a PS3.

Ever tried LBP,Resistance1&2,GT5P,Rat chet&Clank,Heavenly Sword.

Most of the 360 games that do sell well, are shooters, and alot of the time, 360's own games, other then HALO,Gears, have not sold that well.

Bioshock is a great game, I played it on PC. and was rated AAA.

Came out on 360 first and to this date has only sold just over 2.3million. Considering the 29million,hmm hmm install base.

But with no MP, that's the reason./ Unless a game has got multiplayer in it. Most of the time they don't tend to sell as well. It's a shame. But that's life.

CE3 looks awesome and period.All people that say that this game look inferior to KZ2, you are just damn fanboys and wrong. This is a good 1st trailer because they show us the actual gameplay, unlike many devs that lie to us and show us CG trailer first to make us believe thats actual gameplay. 1 dev that i hate is Guerrilla because they made us believe that the first trailer of KZ2 was actual gameplay but it wasnt;It was pure CG video.
Im just happy that I own every video game console and PC. I get to experience every game. Im not a crappy fanboy that says that a specific console is the best.

good period

This is ridiculous, its a good engine, its going to make sub par things become par, its going to re invent the wheel? prob not, its just a new step.

People need to calm themselves... Not to mention, It will take several iterations of games before they peak this engine on eithier

This console port of the cry engine 3 is fu*k*ng lagging !

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau