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NPD Fallout: Was Killzone 2 a System Seller?

There's no doubt that Killzone 2 is a major part of Sony's strategy. As analysts and developers have increased the heat on Sony for a price drop on the PlayStation 3, many speculated that the company has been waiting to see how the adoption rate increases with the release of the game. For their part, Sony has sounded optimistic recently, calling it the first salvo in an onslaught of triple-A titles. "Killzone 2 will push 360 owners to try out the PS3. I think it's going to be a major launch for us and this historical PlayStation brand," said Sony's VP of product marketing Scott Steinberg.

The gulf between the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 install base has once again grown, so it might not be pushing 360 owners like Steinberg hoped.

MURKERR6275d ago (Edited 6275d ago )

.. decent article by 1up though, bottom line is at half the price of your competitor you should be beating the ps3 by more than a 100,000 in your home territory & you should be challenging the wii in sales considering your CHEAPER than that to! N4G will be interesting place once the rumoured ps3 price cut hits

morganfell6275d ago

As I stated elsewhere, you have to consider the words of NPD's own wiki page:

"NPD covers roughly 60-65% of the U.S. retailers."

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wi...

So if you follow their words and take the sales for the 2 days in February, and you make the leap that the other 35-40% of retailers sold at the same rate, retailers like Toys R Us that are not covered by NPD, then you get a figure of between 497,000 and 539,000 units. Think that would move some consoles?

solideagle16275d ago

but after watching NPD and the trends i think answer is a big NO.
Sony f**ked up this time they better price cut with a game release hmmmmm Infamous would be perfect.
thanks

Rampant6275d ago

Halo 3 helped Microsoft sell consoles months in advance and months after. There's a system seller.

sack_boi6274d ago

The most hyped game of the year, the Halo killah (yeah, Killzowned 2) didn't even match Gears 2 sales. I can't stop laughing.

I have the game and it's awesome (I just unlocked the tactician class), but it really feels good to be able to rub it in the PS3 fanboys faces on this site. Same people that were saying "as soon as LBP is out, the 360 will just stop selling", or "as soon as KILLZONE 2 is out Microsoft will go bankrupt..."

Conclusion : stop the B.S with the Microsoft/Halo/Gears... killah, just enjoy the games and let them "kill" themselves.

SL1M DADDY6274d ago

Does it really feel good to rub it in the faces of Sony Fanboys? Becoming a fanboy yourself to do so? If so then you need to get out more often and experience the real world my friend. The same folks that said Killzone 2 would demolish anything Xbox 360 in terms of sales were nothing more than fanboys and to become a person who enjoys wasting your time bashing them... Well, that speaks much of your own fanboyisms.

The truth here is that Killzone 2 was recorded in sales for only two days out of Feb. Knowing that we can safely say that we don't know the answer to what the article is asking and should wait. The underlying truth of it all however is that what will it do for you and I if Killzone 2 was a system seller? Will it help you to sleep better? I know it won't for me and since it won't, I could care less. In the end, Sony has sold enough consoles already to help good games sell well enough to become profitable and at this point is a good place for devs to make games. That being said, owning all consoles is the best place to be but for those who only own the PS3, they too will have a wealth of games to enjoy in the upcoming months despite any of them being a system seller or not.

lordgodalming6274d ago (Edited 6274d ago )

I've got three answers to the question this article poses, all of which seem to be true:

1) Yes, KZ2 sold (and will continue to sell) a pile of systems.
2) No, KZ2 didn't (and won't) sell as many systems as people wanted it to or thought it might.
3) WHO EFFING CARES? I'M SO SICK OF THIS CRAP.

Out.

JustinSaneV26274d ago

morganfell:

Your argument is not valid. From the link you posted:

"Although, NPD does not track Wal-Mart, they do estimate Wal-Mart and other retailers' sales using various algorithms and estimations."

likedamaster6274d ago (Edited 6274d ago )

I'm with sack_boi, it feels really good to do so while enjoying the same games you ps3fanboys play(or claim to).

Edit: Btw, morganfell has been posting the same things in almost all the npd/Killzone2 posts doing major damage control. You'd think he worked for Sony/PS3 or something. LOL Fail

360FanLord6274d ago

u give all 360 owners a bad name,lol

i guess in your mind killzone 2 was release in the very first second the month change.

am no fanboy, i just prefer my 360 over my ps3 but some of the news that gets approve here is just flat out dumb and some of the comments like you make me even question if know anything other then been a dutch fanboy.

i means something 360 fanboys can be worst then ps3 fanboys, i guess u are prove of it, lol

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San Frandisco6275d ago

but everyone needs to get their head in the right direction about kz2's sales as they are only in feb for 2 freagn days man lol,spining or anything else by fanboys is strait redonculous.
i know a few friendo's that bought their ps3's during the month of january for KZ2 so its not all about february ya know and its defienently not all about NA either.

Firstkn1ghT6275d ago

I agree that it only shows 2 days of sale so we'll just have to wait for another month to see the real impact it has created. But you have to agree that the sales have been seriously declining so don't expect huge numbers. The second week dropped 50% and the third week dropped another 50%. The sony fans love it but it definitely didn't move consoles like most of you said. I tried it and didn't like it. Control sucked but I haven't tried the new control as I hear they got a patch. The enemy and weapon variety was weak. It just felt like the same ole shooter I been playing for years. I still don't want anything on the ps3 yet. I'm still waiting for my beloved Twisted Metal.

dalibor6275d ago (Edited 6275d ago )

Come on man, Ps3 has great games bro. I enjoyed playing Uncharted, Mgs4, Lbp, Warhawk, Cod4, Heavenly Sword, The Darkness, Oblivion, Killzone 2, Nba2k9, Tiger Woods PGA tour 09, Motorstorm, GTA4 ect. Even the Ps store has some enjoyable games. I don't believe that you hate every single game on the Ps3, did you forget about 3rd party games? I don't have a 360 but it does have great games also just like the Ps3. You should check out some of the Ps3 games from a friend or something & you might come to realization that you might like some of the games that the Ps3 has to offer. There are to many games on all consoles as of right now & saying that every game on the Ps3 sucks holds no logic. Same could be said of the 360 + Wii. Dalibor the f*ck out.

Firstkn1ghT6275d ago (Edited 6275d ago )

I didn't say I hate the ps3 games. I'm just saying that their isn't anything on there that I really want to play over and over. Don't like MGS and LBP is to kiddy for me. I played and beat Uncharted, Resistance 1 & 2 and liked those 3 games but I don't need to play them again. A simple play at my cousins house will be more than enough. Twisted Metal on the other hand is a game that I can play over and over and still waiting for that game. The 360 is more than enough console for me right now and has every genre taken care of.....EXCEPT a Twisted Metal type game.

dalibor6274d ago

Hmm I see. Some of the games that I like to play over & over are Nba2k9, Warhawk, Motorstorm:PR, & now Killzone. Online at least. I try to play all the games that I have online b/c I enjoy them. Twisted Metal would be cool to play online though, imagine having like 40 players creating carnage everywhere.

DelbertGrady6274d ago

If MS added all the imaginary 360 owners on N4G to their sales they would be giving the Wii a run for it's money.

Anon19746274d ago (Edited 6274d ago )

They already include replacements through retailer warranties as sales, and refurbed units in Europe packaged in new bundles. Why not take the next logical step and just makes sale up? Hell, I'm surprised they still aren't trying to claim a 3% failure rate or that nobody needs HDMI. :)

likedamaster6274d ago (Edited 6274d ago )

@Soda

Well, said.

@fanboys

Soda's point? It works both ways, don't be a hypocrite(kettle/pot both black).

@darkride

I see it struck a nerve with you. The irony of your many bubbles is mindblowing.

on topic/
Killzone 2 failed to meet expectations in its first 2 days and DID NOT move ps3 consoles like most said it would. Period.

DelbertGrady6274d ago

The one making stuff up is you. MS do not count refurbished 360's or replacements in their sales data.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman578d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX578d ago (Edited 578d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne578d ago (Edited 578d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro578d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken578d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown578d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72578d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken578d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya577d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast578d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood578d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro807d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72807d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_807d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga807d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23807d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000807d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin807d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole807d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix807d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989807d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor807d ago (Edited 807d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989807d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

The Amsterdam-based studio reflects on its humble beginnings, beloved franchises, and growth through the years.

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SullysCigar1111d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1111d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1111d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1111d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491111d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381111d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1111d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1111d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381111d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1111d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761111d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1111d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301111d ago (Edited 1111d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1111d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1111d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1111d ago (Edited 1111d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1111d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1111d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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