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Lfmesquite6262d ago

didn't make a difference at all.

ssj6262d ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again, Killzone 2's sales boost was like a candle in the wind.

Lariat6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Those Killzone 2 + PS3 numbers should be considered incredibly disappointing for Sony fanboys in general. Lots of people will say "But..... but it was only for sale 2 days!!!" or "Wait til' March!!!" but that's hardly an excuse. I don't see this game doing any better in March, because some of the most powerful franchises in gaming have releases for that month (Pokemon, Grand Theft Auto, Halo, Resident Evil). With this, I hope fanboys learned their lesson and stop thinking that a game will miraculously save a console that has been destined to be in third place since it got released.

But don't worry, I have the solution for all you fanboys: Visit VGCHARTZ, look at those unofficial numbers and try to convince yourself that the games for your platform are going any good.

Aquanox6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

I'll never understand why Sony released KZ2 the day before the Fiscal Period ended. It was largely outperformed by other titles. The hardware impact is barely visible as well.

Xbox 360 on the other hand, standing strong up 45% from last year.

tocrazed4you6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Like delusional. When did Killzone 2 release? Oh yeah February 27th or 26th. When did February ended? OHHH YEAH IN TWO DAYS SMART GUYS. That wasn't even a week of sales. And to add further insult what about SF4. Xbox 360 has such a huge install base compared to the ps3 in the US and only manage to outsell the ps3 Version by 40k? Wow... Maybe those reports that the ps3 and xbox 360 sold 50/50 for GTA was true.

John Hendry Eden6262d ago

No worries guys, Halo 3 sold only 2.7 million copies more than Killzone 2!

We were pretty close.

LOL

John Hendry Eden6262d ago

Poor Killzone 2.

It will be out of the TOP 10 next month.

Well, at least it looks good.

original seed6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Killzone made no difference. Lets wait till march. That sounds familiar

just wait till march of 07
Just wait till MGS4
Just wait till Xmas 07
just wait till 08
Just wait till LBP
Just wait till Xmas 08
Just wait till Killzone

Now i guess we will have to wait for Xmas 09 to see if Finally 2009 will be the year of PS3.

EDIT

Ape, you're probably right. We might have to wait till the price drop. But im sure MS will be ready with one soon after. Sony needs to market their Big Games better so more people will buy them. We need more 1st party titles from them. They have 20 studios, where are all the games. Releasing one every 6 months is not going to cut it.

Edit at 1.14

All that as you claim but yet Sony has not been able to catch up to the initial 8 million head start.

THE REASON WHY THIS IS A BIG DEAL IS BECAUSE Sony Fanboys on here claimed that Killzone was going to be the game that ends all games. It was suppose to be the Halo Killer, the second coming of Christ. Yet 18 MILLION PS3 owners didn't care. Sure it may be at 1 million worldwide right now, a month later.

Looks like Killzone got Killzowned.

UltimateIdiot9116262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Quick to judge, 360 fanboys are. Fail to realize KZ2 for sale 2 days only, they do. PS3 exclusive slow but strong, always was, always will.

mint royale6262d ago

Killzone 2 didn't produce a boost per se but hardware for ps3 is much better than expected. Trouble is hardware is better than expected for the 360 and wii too so no ground gained really. It will be interesting how this transpires into March.

GiantEnemyCrab6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

I AM TYPING IN CAPS TO POINT OUT SOMETHING BEFORE THIS GETS OUT OF HAND!!

Killzone 2 released Feb 27th and only records 2 days this month on the NPD.

So before everyone condemns the low sales numbers understand that March will be much better. However, considering all the pre-sales mumbo jumbo that went around it doesn't look like anyone had 1 mil pre-orders in any region.

Rampant6262d ago

the millions of KZ2 preorders!!!

Lariat6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Xbox 360 sales are great. And those numbers are only going to get better next month thanks to the Resident Evil 5 bundle and Halo Wars.

ape0076262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

let's wait until the PRICE CUT

rhood0226262d ago

"just wait till march of 07
Just wait till Xmas 07"

You mean the year 2007 when the PS3 outsold the 360 for the year? Even with Halo 3 being released?

"just wait till 08
Just wait till MGS4
Just wait till Xmas 08"

You mean the year 2008 where the PS3 outsold the 360 for 7 months of the year INCLUDING the release of MGS 4?

LoVeRSaMa6262d ago

We all know the real issue here is all them people playing SFIV on an Xbox, poor poor people =[

Oh and PS3 is like 1st and 2nd in japan and Europe not too far in 3rd USA either, its the only place where Xbox holds ground which is a shame really.

UltimateIdiot9116262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

You fail to realize, not everyone picks up their copy on Day 1. Some wait a bit. Also those who order from online retailers, companies can't record the sale until the receiver accepts the package which I know many who end up getting their copy in March.

techie6262d ago

Two days folks guys, two days. Nearly sold as much as SF4 in two days. The bulk occurs in March. You guys are pretty idiotic.

na2ru16262d ago

rules out the positive reception and praise Killzone has been getting? The figures somehow managed to modify my copy of killzone 2's awesomeness down a level?

You fanboys seriously need to lay off the desperation. Killzone 2 is a cool game.

Immortal Kaim6262d ago

I agree with Mint. Strong hardware sales all round (Of course the Wii's sales are exceptional 'again').

Funny to see the fanboys flock to the NPD numbers, all coming out of the woodworks like c*ckroaches. ;)

Uwe_Boll6262d ago

As a GAMER why do these sales matter? Does a game become terrible just because it didn't sell very well. By most peoples logic on here wii fit, play and sports are the best games ever! Some of the best games made didn't sell well so they should instantly be disregarded. We should not care if a game sells well. I want some one to answer my question.

As a GAMER why do these sales matter?

II-Reaper-II6262d ago

Killzone has probably sold 2 million copies worldwide so far with little to no marketing at all.Whats the freakin problem ?its not like they spend 50 million dollars marketin the game like a certain game i know(halo2,3).We Playstation owners no quality when we see it.WE dont need to see comercials 24/7 on tv and on mountain dew cans to trick us into thinking a game is great.

ShabzS6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Gears 2 hit 1.5 million in ONE day in the US alone...

http://www.tgdaily.com/cont...

(Fight minions Fight... dont be rational ... use the anger ..)

John Hendry Eden6262d ago

This reminds me of the Little BIg Planet sales.

"Just wait til next month" and LBP was out the TOP 10 that month.

Poor Sony fanboys, they can't catch a break.

kws10656262d ago

But I start anyway.

Pre-order number is what the publisher sells to retailers, which means IRRELEVENT to NPD numbers. Is the word Shipping more familiar?

Whatever difference between pre-order and NPD number is a difference between what retailers keep and they sell for 2 days.

Oh...and I saw the pre-order in EU was shown but not in US. Was there any expected number in US? Because this number is only for US, it doesn't mean pre-order for EU is wrong.

LeonSKennedy4Life6262d ago

Week 2 sales for Killzone 2 were even better than week 1.

You guys need to grow up.

morganfell6262d ago

Killzone 2 didn't make a difference? Look at the software for the top 10. The 360 moved 639,000 units in the top 10. The PS3 (and it's supposedly smaller install base) moved 726,000 units in the top 10.

II-Reaper-II6262d ago

Bubbles for u rhood!!!Its funny that your getting disagrees because what u stated is actually 100 percent proven to be true.

jmare6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Can we all help it if there was nothing else good to play on the 360 at that time last year? Also, just because you're lemmings doesn't mean that the game is really that good.

EDIT: I like how everyone is focusing on Killzone 2 and ignoring the rest of the data.

For example, SF4 on 360 only did about 43K more than PS3. Which is sad considering that the 360 has millions of more units in the US than the PS3. And you can't use the "established franchise" argument because SF is an arcade game primarily. But what about the attach rate?

Also, the PS3 has 2 spots in the top 10 when it has struggled to get any games in the top 10 historically, and they are both new releases. Whereas the 360 has one new release and one 5 month old game. Disc scratching, anyone?

Lastly; both MS and Sony got the sh1t kicked out of them by Nintendo saleswise. I've never seen so many people srguing over first loser before. Or is it maybe that everyone subconsciously realizes ther is room for three consoles on the market but can't admit it without losing their fanboy status?

Vortigaunt6262d ago

I feel bad for SOny fans. Anyway, gonna play some Gears of War 2 right now.

zethos566262d ago

We'll be lucky if KZ2 is even in the top 10 next month.

soxfan20056262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

@1.21

Yeah, people were tricked into buying Halo 3. That's why 2 years, 8 million copies and millions of online games later, it's still being played relentlessly. Can you name any other game with that kind of replay value?

iHEARTboobs6262d ago

Damn it, that must mean the game isn't as badass as most people think. I guess we were all wrong. I guess if you're not a jillion seller on the first hour you're a failure. Oh well.

Uwe_Boll6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Ok so no one will answer my question why its so important to know whether one console has soled more than another. Why does a ps3 fan care about Halo Wars sales or a 360 fan care about KZ2 sales when it wont affect them.

arika6262d ago

for two days that is great sales. we will see what happens in march, if the killzone effect was effective on bringing up the sales of both hardware and software.
good sales though.

kewlkat0076262d ago

In the defense of LBP, that's a game that will sell well gradually. It wasn't the type of game that is hyped like a shooter pushing visuals. Remember the most hyped games are all about visuals and take much more millions to make. LBP will get it sales.

I'll see what KZ2 manage to do over time bu it so easy to compare it's releases to other top Shooters this gen. Of course while it is praised as the best, I'll see what type of PS3 owners that are really out there.

I keeps asking who is and who is not buying games?

frayer6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Killzone sales were for 2 days, the month ending Feb 28th and sold 300k+. SF4 was out since Feb 15th and sold only 400k. PS3 sales are up over 50k from the previous month. Killzone is still an unproven ip. Gears 1 didn't sell 2 mil in one day. COD 4 didn't sell 300k+ in 2 days. The 360 only outsold the PS3 by roughly 100k- 25k/week. PS3's install base is half of the 360 in NA. Failure indeed./ sarcasm

eagle216262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

This is the typical 360 fanchild:

"We love that our games don't win industry awards, get mediocre reviews and have multiple glitches. Who needs superior games and award winning new IP's: we have Too Human. We can't wait for all the multiplatform releases and DLC planned in 2009. Oh Microsoft, please make the 360 $99 with a coupon for Mc Donald's. Cause without our "teh second place" NPD data in America, we are just a sad excuse for a gamer."

CrazzyMan6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

And here are A LOT OF TROLLS, which don`t understand that Killzone 2 was selling only for 2 DAYS and did around 350k.

Uncharted in November 2007 in 10 days did around 120k, and now this game is around 3 mln. WW sales. =)

So, if PS3 games doesn`t make a very big launch week, that is compensated in long term.

Anyway, enjoy while you can(i mean till PS3 pricecut), because after THAT you won`t have that opportunity anymore.))

Sony spend it`s money on GAMES, not ads, so if game is GREAT it will sell GOOD in long term.

Rampant6262d ago

lot of butthurt people here.

Hyped games usually sell about half of their first week sales the first day, because of preorders and such. So 2 days of sales 350 thousand should make about 150k for the rest of the week. First week sales usually makes up a big chunk of first month sales, so I'd say we're looking at a maximum of 300k for Killzone 2 in March. MAXIMUM.

That's all

oh no...

Halo Wars sold 1 million already.

HDgamer6262d ago

from gamezine "Killzone 2 was only on sale for two days in the month, but it still managed to achieve impressive sales at 323,000 copies."

2 days at the end of the month and it moved that many copies.

RememberThe3576262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Any chance you guys get to hate on an other console, you jump right on it. How about you wait till your balls drop to open your uninformed mouths?

Anyway I thought Reeves was talking about 1.1 million pre-orders all together, which it looks like he was. And considering that Killzone 2 was riding on internet hype alone, it did rather well.

SCEA didn't push this game at all. It looks too me that they're saving their advertising budget for InFamous.

Killzone 2 could have killed first day... Good job SCEA... They really need to work on their advertising, it's actually getting old seeing all these great games with such lackluster promotions.

@SUP3R: I thought there was an article about a week back which said that Sony had just freed up a bunch of money so that SCE could advertise. I couldn't seem to find it though. However, the only mention of advertising I had heard was from SCEE.

One more thing I'd like to add. Am I the only one who realizes that SCEA advertises games after their release not before?

original seed6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

because the GAMER wins if a certain game sold well.

Sony and GG make more money if Killzone sells more. In return,
-The have more money to make sequels
-They have more money to make new IPs
-They have more confidence in experimenting on New techs

So the Gamers wins in the end because they will get another game. Hopefully a AAA game or a breath of fresh air.

The reason why Killzone sales matter so much to Sony fans is because Sony and GG will have more money and confidence to invest in more games that cater to Sony Fans needs.

The reason why Killzone games matter to MS Fans is because if the game sells poorly, It "might" mean more games for MS fans seeing how even big budget games dont sell on PS3. Maybe 3rd parties studios will be more willing to support MS with more games.

Edit- KWs

This months NPD matters as will the next and the next. Sure it still has time to sell but the majority of the Sales happen the first few day. I know Killzone 3 was mentioned but they might play it safe and recycle alot of Tech from K2 now that the sales were not as anticipated.

Also, Ninja Gaiden 2 sigma is practically already done due to recycling all of Ninja Gaiden 2. Its smart to re-release it. Its not like they are making a new game. Its not worth the gamble.

If Killzone doesn't persuade PS3 owners to buy games then i doubt a 3rd party game will.

Rampant6262d ago

The preorder numbers mentioned were always the store preorders, not the consumer preorders. There's no way Sony can know how many games a store has preordered.

Megaton6262d ago

NPD articles really bring em' out huh?

kws10656262d ago

In that sense, the number shown on NPD Feb 2009 doesn't really matter.

2 days sale doesn't say anything. Besides, it sounds like GG already confirms KZ3, when they interview before it releases.

Also, third-party movements toward PS3 is quite fast such as NG sigma 2 (plus another PS3 exclusive game from Tecmo which will be announced next week)

YungXclusive2K96262d ago

Omg you fanboys are the worst please n4g we need some bans immediately, because a game doesn't sell as fast as you would like it its a failure, get a fuggin life for crying out loud. You make it seem like killzone 2 is a bad game. The jealousy just screams through your ignorant words.

BTW smart guys it only was released for 2 Days before February ended.

You people are so insecure half of you were probally campaigning against Killzone 2.

200 Plus comments in the first hour means that you guys were egar to rant about this is which is ridiculous

SUP3R6262d ago

Wasn't there also a multi-million dollar marketing campaign SONY boasted about for Killzone 2? Now the story has changed and they've shifted that marketing cash to inFamous, then when that doesn't hold up it means they've shifted it to Uncharted 2...when will they finally spend that marketing money?? I'm thinking God of War 3 in 2010....hopefully.

StayHigh6262d ago

a lot of unintelligent xboxfanboys go out and buy another 360 when their system broke..lol.. its the only reason why so many xbox360 sold that much last month..Great work you guys for supporting crappy system..

SuperM6262d ago

WOW, the fanboys are having a field-day today. Get a life will you.

Street fighter sold almost as much on PS3 despite 360 having almost twice the install base in the US then the ps3. Guess its safe to assume SF4 sold conciderably more on PS3 worldwide despite releasing a year later.

And KZ2 with only 2 days of sales only 80k behind SF4. And the bulk of the sales for KZ2 will also be in europe where PS3 has a larger install base.

DaTruth6262d ago

How does it feel to know your a console fanboy loser? You know who you are! Get a girlfriend or something!

Why o why6262d ago

c'mon fellas, use some common sense.

StephanieBBB6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

I mean they've been pretty much smashed with how Killzone 2 looks like a CGI trailer, SF4 as a multiplat is selling better on the PS3 and Ninja guiden 2 is no longer exclusive.

Go ahead rant away at sony, let that month old bitterness out =)

Danja6262d ago

KZ2 had 2 days of sale..and sold..350k..PRETTY GOOD....

as for the idiots who keep talkin bout Pre-orders Sony never commented on US Pre-Orders they said..over 1 million in EUROPE...IN EUROPE

overall 360 and Wii saw good sales..PS3 sales seems consistent..neither dropping...or gaining monthly....

next month we should see how well KZ2 actually did

cherrypie6262d ago

@Lariat

"Wait till march!". KZ2 wont be on the March Top 10. Remember that.

Bottom line for February 2009:

Xbox 360 391,000
PLAYSTATION 3 276,000

The Xbox 360 destroyed the PS3. Again. Even after a massive "KZ2" advertising budget(!).

Oh, and for context February 2008:

PlayStation 3 280.8K DOWN 4.8K units.
Xbox 360 254.6K UP 135.4K units(!)

Anyone who has any dreams of "2009 Year of the PS3!!one!" better take a wake-up pill. Even after KZ2 -- which probably wont see the Top 10 list again until Sony bundles it with a PS3 -- the PS3 still **LOST** sales even with price cut since then.

Bottom line: Xbox 360 is running toward Wii, PS3 is out of the race.

thegood336262d ago

To be quite honest, all systems are looking pretty darn good. There is no big loser, just different shades of winners...lol

rockleex6262d ago

Of these trolls in the past month... and HERE THEY ARE!! ^_^

Hell, I'll say 95%.

AuToFiRE6262d ago

Remember, NDP doesnt cover many stores, like Walmart

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Dandiego6262d ago

Killzone 2 is a great looking game with bad controls... it's sad but true. It won't sell systems since you need a solid month of university to "get used to" the controls... and those gamers are not the type of people that buy systems. Rock Band sells systems, Guitar Hero sells systems this late after a system release because they are easy to get into... KZ2 doesn't sell systems. Hell I have all systems and I don't understand what all the fuss is about. Uncharted made more noise for me... but it didn't create half the commotion this game did. Its almost this game HAD to be good... and it WAS good before it came out. It's a shame because if you're honest with yourself you can clearly see this game is flawed or at the least ordinary.

Mikerra176262d ago

look at all the 360 fanboys who had to come out of the woods for this

Electricear6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

It's called Birging, and it stands for Basking In Reflected Glory (psych term). People choose side (fans) in all kinds of things like sport teams and in this case gaming consoles. When a given side "wins" the fans take it as a victory for them selves even though they really had little to do with it. The perceived victory causes a sense of euphoria in the fans and some search for opposing fans to tout their victory in front of as it helps preserver their euphoric feelings. Differing perceptions of what is victory in things like the "console wars" leads to heated, some times emotional, debates like we see in these forums. The reason behind a lot of the emotions is the fact that testosterone levels rise with a victory and lower with a loss, thus the birger desires to "win."

indysurfn6262d ago

All you people pointing out that it is only two days of sales forgot something. MOST GAMES Sales most of there games on the FIRST DAY OF RELEASE ANYWAY. Unless it is a game that has great replay like Halo, or a underrated game like gunstar heros. Excuse=fail!

xwabbit6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Its funny how fan boys feel happy because of sales lol. Yeah, Gears 2 must be way better than kz2 cus it sold more, i mean.... 4 vs 4 online ? thats fking intense, 16 vs 16 like on kz2 is much more challenging, i like my games easy and with lots of glitches. I like seeing all the glitch complains on the forums with gears unlike kz2 doesn't have em and the forums look boring cus there's nothing bad 2 talk about :/. I mean from gears 1 to gears 2 was a great improvement, 2 more players online, what more can we ask for!. I like to be blind and block reality, i dont like admitting PS3 is selling faster than 360 cus i just wont, dont wana make bill mad. 2008 was 360's year i MEAN did u see all those new games!.. dont know which where those but.... yeah... tho PS3 really did have more and better quality ones 2, wont admit that tho. I choose the 360 games cus they sold more so they are obviously better. Cus sales are all that matter. So what if i pay 120 bucks for a 120GB drive, i like it, i wouldn't want to have it easy and buy a 500 GB drive for the PS3 for just 80 bucks cus i like the challenge. I know PS3 has more quality exclusives but ill just ignore them and say they not good cus they not on my 360, ill say viva pinata was awesome cus thats a M$ IP and Too Human to, those games where GREAT(i didnt buy them tho). Even tho i dont see any improvement in graphics and online on my 360, ill stand by it and say is the best :). PS3 can keep improving i dont care, ill stay blind till my 360 dies for the 100th time :). Gears 3 will be amazing, i hear they will add 2 more people for online! 6 vs 6!, dont care if Resistance 2 has 64 player slots tho. I just like wasting 300 bucks for 3 games :). Halo, gears and fable, thats all i need, y would i want so many. I just love sequels from the same games over and over, nothing new :). Oh and i love how M$ spends more money on ads than the game, cus i like finding glitches on the game. Dk y M$ pays 3rd party studios for exclusives when they go to Sony voluntarily, dk y is that but i wont think its because they PS3 is capable of doing more of course ^_^. Only the 360 can do it all :). Ill stay blind and keep telling my self sales are all that matters ^_^

Major_Tom6262d ago

NPD data always attracts people who are too ignorant to notice the whole two days Killzone 2 when they were gathering data. This is N4G for you.

littletad6262d ago

Quite remarkable how well video games sold, in whole, despite there being recession. I'm quite happy for both systems, and Killzone 2 made a difference. It was barely released mid Feb. we will see the true effects not just in the next month but how well it's changed the idea that developers can do something fun with it's hardware. And kudos to the 360 for actually staying in strong, despite fanboys claim it had no "great lineup" for 2009.

soxfan20056262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

@xwabbit

"I know PS3 has more quality exclusives but ill just ignore them and say they not good cus they not on my 360"

Exactly where is your information coming from? Look at Metacritic:

PS3 exclusives rated 90 or higher - 4
360 exclusives rated 90 or higher - 5 - plus several XBLA exclusives

Quality does matter, and despite what you think, the PS3 does not have a monopoly on quality exclusives. You are too blinded by your devotion to Sony to see the big picture. You're not the first though - people have been under-estimating the 360 for years.

xwabbit6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

http://qsf5.com/2008/12/30/...
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Btw... i own 5 things from Sony.. PS3...TV...3 PS3 games.. I dont care about brands i care about good games. I play 80% of my time on the PC....like 40% after killzone 2 but yeah..... i really dont like playing on console. If u see my xfire game status u'll find over 3 thousand hours on UT2004 and at least 20 hours in the past 7 days lol. 90% of my games are from PC. I wright like this most of the time to see what people reply to me cus is fun watching people defend their system.

XxZxX6262d ago

easily recovered from Japan, 30*4 = 120K. stalemate. Even UK now fall into PS3 hand. So nothing to see here except PS3 is gaining strength.
Move along.

IdleLeeSiuLung6262d ago

To be fair to the PS3, the game was on sale for two days in February. In addition, the PS3's strenght isn't the US, but Europe and to some degree Japan.

We really should see worldwide sales number for KZ2 in March to get a good picture. Still 300k in the first two days seems kind of low for a game of this caliber, with expanded advertising (per Sony) and the immense hype it received.

SiLeNt KNighT6262d ago

its funny to see some you try and cover up your jealousy with sarcasm. sf4 on 360 (xbox best selling game for feb) sold 450,000 in the entire month. Killzone sold 323,000 in two days. thats a slaughtering. did halo wars get left out or did it go on sale after feb 28? im a little surprised its no where in sight.

SL1M DADDY6261d ago

Considering it was out for only two days and sold nearly 400,000 copies, that is pretty good. Also, looking at the PS3 and how it is twice the price of the 360 and was only outsold by a tad over 100k is saying that folks are getting on the band wagon. Looks good for the industry as a whole. Also, looking at the street fighter titile, it's almost a draw and knowing that the 360 has what... double the install base in the US... Now that says something all in itself.

Good on both companies, they both did well this month.

jrsenkbe6261d ago

are you guys so dense that you cant read, Killzone 2 sold 323,000 in 24 hours. That is the only data recorded for the game. Wait until March numbers came out.

Bitter Tears6261d ago

NPD always tracks an extra week after the month in question for late releases. Killzone 2 is no exception, it was tracked for a week and an half. Not 2 days, but an extra week. Why do you think NPD is released in the middle of the next month?

IdleLeeSiuLung6261d ago

@bittertruth:

Do you have any source for how NPD collects data for late releases? It seems like an important detail to leave out of your data?

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ssj6262d ago

No surprise here PS3 maintains 3rd position.

happyface6262d ago

these numbers are probably wrong

there is no way Killzone 2 sold only 300k in its first days I dont believe it until we get official sells numbers

zethos566262d ago

these are the official numbers. This is only for US though.

outlawlife6262d ago

you do realize how many companies rely on npd?

so these numbers aren't going to be wrong...these are the numbers wake up and smell reality

Erotic Sheep6262d ago

Seeing Killzone 2 released on February 27th and the month ended at 28th.. I'd say 300k+ sales for just 2 days in one continent is no shame at all..

mint royale6262d ago

NPD won't be that far off they get data from too much of the market. 300K in 2 days is good anyway.

outlawlife6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

they are very good numbers for 2 days but actually saying npd numbers are wrong is a bit deluded

i'm also wondering what happened to the supposed millions of preorders killzone 2 had, and the thousands of systems it was going to move

people need to learn to look at things realistically and not base their knowledge on the comment section of n4g

a realistic person can see that sony is fighting a steep uphill battle right now, month after month they are sitting behind nintendo and microsoft, they really need to pull out all of the stops this year

their arrogance is not helping their cause, 1 good game every once in a while isn't going to cut it

Elvfam5116262d ago

"i'm also wondering what happened to the supposed millions of preorders"

I recall it was the UK not the US

mint royale6262d ago

had millions of pre orders but the in the US it only sold 300K? Erm..whatever you say...

outlawlife6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

yes the UK which has a 5th the population of the US and a much smaller consumer base is going to sell 3-4 more times the amount

that is only logical

/sarcasm

are we being serious here or do you really believe what you said?

morganfell6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

It was EU preorders over a million, not just the UK. EU is all of Europe and is in fact the largest gaming territory.

EDIT: Royal, Be aware that the sale isn't counted until it is picked up or shipped out. Unless someone got over night then it likely didn't count for February and not everyone grabs their preorder the first day. A smart person would at least wait for EU figures or 30 days for a better look at KZ2 here for numbers carried in March before they pass judgment on those sales. It might save them a lot of embarrassment later.

mint royale6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

outselling the US by at least 3-1 just aint happening. You seriously believe this?

Morgan: I would say the vast majority of people if they have bothered to pre order the game would pick it up within the first 2 days. SOme may not but the majority will. If this is what your relying on then you will be disappointed. Whats the need to try and defend these sales anyway? They look good to me. But 1 million pre orders just aint happening i'm sorry.

arika6262d ago

i believe that Europe can outsell NA sales, its probably because the team that made it is from Amsterdam. they definitely sound european to me and another reason would be that the population of europe combined is bigger than the us population.

RememberThe3576262d ago

That number came from an interview that Reeves did. He never actually specified what that number meant. I took it as all together, but I think people took it as EU/PAL only because he's the head of SCEE.

Danja6262d ago

while I understand what ur trying to say...ur looking at it the wrong way..

Reevs stated they had over 1 million pre-orders in Europe...which im sure he wouldn't Lie about...

now ...if you add up all those Countries in Europe you'll see he probably aint lying..

it sold... OVER 500K in The UK already....why do you think..it's struggling to sell another 500K+ in other countries... ??

you do know also that not everyone who pre-orders a game....picks it up on day one right ??....I pre0orderes SF4 but got it..from the store 3 days after..so quit while ur ahead

likedamaster6262d ago

How bout a link to your 500k Danja? Slow it down... we all want these companies to succeed but spinning/denying NPD numbers and facts doesn't help your favorite company's situation(Sony).

Arnon6261d ago

"I'd say 300k+ sales for just 2 days in one continent is no shame at all.."

I would.. Wasn't Killzone 2 being hyped up since before the launch of the Playstation 3 back in '05?. Not to mention it is hyped to be "the greatest shooter ever".

Hell, even Halo Wars has outsold this game.. and it was released March 3rd.

(by the way, I am one of the 350,000 who bought it before I hear any hate)

Erotic Sheep6261d ago

And Halo Wars is...where... in that list? Not sure how you can say Halo Wars outsold it without the March numbers being released since Killzone 2 kept selling in March as well.

Arnon6261d ago

Because it was officially announced that Halo Wars had already sold over 1 million copies?

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Marie6262d ago

Haha, 360 had a hell of a month and KZ2 ahhaha.

happyface6262d ago

killzone2 must have sold better than this, its all every ps3 owner talked about for 2 years

every single ps3 owner bought it

techie6262d ago

Uh, most were expecting around 150k for the two days it was on sale in Feb.

happyface6262d ago

150k or 300k would be an EPIC FAIL

Halo sells millions in its first 8 hours of release

Killzone is sony's halo and it sells less than a million? WTF

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cayal6262d ago

"Halo sells millions in its first 8 hours of release"

Hmm how can we analyse this?

Xbox players have no life? they have no games?

Who cares how much Halo sold in its first 8 hours?

It amazing at the level of idiocy people have on this subject.

NPD = America.
Killzone 2 = out for 2 days for these NPD numbers

Yet apparently these two simple concepts translate into worldwide sales for a month.

How dumb some people are is just amazing.

Arnon6261d ago

It's f*cking Killzone 2. Everyone and their MOTHER who owned a PS3 knew about this game and the hype surrounding it. I honestly expected it to sell around 1 million in the U.S. alone in the first 2 days.. but even YOU have to admit that is horrible sales.

Nicolator6261d ago

this is truely funny... well i bought my ps3 coz of kz2 anyway.. but 350k sales.. come on that is not so gd to be honest gears clocked 2.1ml in that time of a weekend.... So u mean all that graphics didnt even make ppl jump off their couch and get the game.. damn.. it seems at the end of it all kz2 might just do the same sales of lbp or mgs4 a MOST.. i was seriously expecting like 2 mill sales day one or something.. this must hurt.. to the sony fanboys.. thou... 360 fanatics are going to murder now.. loooool... damn i need to get another popcorn pack to watch what happens.. hehehe

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rhood0226262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Good numbers all around. Especially for a February.

Console sales were to be expected.

The SF IV numbers are surprising--the 360 outsold the PS3 version barely.

For two days of sales, Killzone 2 racked up some decent numbers.

soxfan20056262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Many people mentioned when it was released that Street Fighter 4 plays better on a PS3 controller. Fighters will probably always favor PS3 (or be closer than other multi-platforms) because of the controllers. Nintendo has been doing D-pads right since 1983. I can't figure out why companies still struggle with it today.

rhood0226262d ago

Regardless of the player's controller preference, it's still odd to me to see a multiplat game so close in sales--at least in the US.

It'd be like the 360 version of a multiplat game selling on par with its PS3 counter part in Japan.

indysurfn6262d ago

Good numbers? It looks like SFIV did better than Killzone2 on PS3. Dispite having reports of lower graphics than the xbox360 version. PS3 owners have a higher average age. That means there are WAY more PS3 owners that are SF(Street fighter) fans lot's of xbox360 fans have only seen the bad versions of SF which will not make you a fan. Plus there are 1/3 AAA titles to chose from on PS3(going by sales of 1 million plus). Makes you wonder how bad the controls on KZ2 are!

Omega46262d ago

Well its confirmed then Killzone 2 is a commercial failure, at least this will put to rest all those comments of it ever being a Halo killer

Its kind of surprising though since unlike most PS3 exclusives this was thoroughly hyped for 5 years and had a decent amount of marketing and even quite good reviews but it still failed to sell amazingly and convert all those PS2 owners and even those 360 owners, lol cant believe people on this site actually believed that, come to think about it even Sony said it would convert 360 owners, boy their faces must be red.

Its certainly not looking to be a good year for SONY (note im saying Sony not gamers) cause Infamous, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2 (but to a lesser extended) sadly got commercial failure written all over them. Cant think of any more PS3 exclusives guaranteed for an 09 release but the fact that I cant means i doubt the everyday gamer will know about them either meaning they WILL fail commercially.

If they dont cut the price within the next week or so they may as well give up, at least in the US market and try and focus on the EU and JP where they have some chance of succeeding

Perception16262d ago

Wasn't it only for the 2 days in February in which Killzone 2 was out?

Omega46262d ago

Halo 3 sold 1.8ml in 8hrs in the US alone so 350k in 2 days is pretty poor

ShabzS6262d ago

8 hrs?? what the *&%# ?!?!

swiftshot936262d ago

can you elaborate on what it takes to be a commercial failure? I was curious seeing as how Killzone 2 has surpassed the 1 million 1 week after release.

Omega46262d ago

Who said that Killzone 2 had even past 1ml yet, Sony!? Cause i must of missed that story

If it had passed the 1ml wouldnt Sony of said so. I got a feeling it still hasnt, look how long LBP took to past 1ml and Sony to announce it

LoVeRSaMa6262d ago

Its Confirmed, Omega4 is a Total failure.

He has yet to figure out that Killzone 2 had 2 days of sales in Feb which means if he wants to find out Killzone 2's sales he needs to wait for Marchs figures.

GiantEnemyCrab6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

"Well its confirmed then Killzone 2 is a commercial failure, at least this will put to rest all those comments of it ever being a Halo killer"

I'm not ready to call it a commercial failure and I would say as gamers we don't want this game to be any sort of failure at all.

GG & Sony took a huge risk and invested in pushing the tech beyond what any other dev is doing on consoles. They should be rewarded for this effort and we should want that because if these 1/2 azz effort games are getting better sales what incentive is there to push the envelope???

I will be done with gaming if the future is all WiiPlay and WiiFit and games like Killzone 2 are too expensive to produce and have little return.

I love 360 as much as anyone but I wanted KZ2 to break all records and send the message that if you invest and push the tech you will be rewarded for the effort.

I will wait for March NPD but right now I am disappointed in PS3 gamers that this game didn't sell to the majority of it's base and easily hit 1 mil day 1 in NA.

techie6262d ago

If Killzone 2 sold over 300k in two days in the US, and around 800k in Europe (which we also know) Then that's well over 1 million worldwide in March. No game sells like Halo, in fact no entertainment medium does. Killzone 2 had an incredibly strong two days for the PS3. Massive success.

swiftshot936262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

You actually commented on the news here on n4g of Europe's software sales. Killzone 2 has already passed the million mark man. And there were also people arguing about Street fighter 4 doing better on PS3 if you remember.

I understand your speculation on whether or not Heavy Rain and inFAMOUS will succeed commercially, these are new IPs, but Uncharted 2? Uncharted passed the 2 million mark in 2008, confirmed a while ago. Sorry that game will do just fine.

Edit: omega
nope, I dont remember them being VGChartz at all. Just check your comment history if you wish to see.

OuterHaven6262d ago

halo still sucks though. sorry.

Omega46262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Do you guys really think it will sell any better in March, seriously?

I mean a huge chunk of game sales come from first day sales so it really wouldnt surprise me if K2 wasnt even in the top 10 in March since it will be competing with Halo Wars, RE5, Wii Fit, Wii Play what hope does it have really, i mean come on now

Edit: swiftshot93
What EU sales? You cant possibly be referring to VGChartz can you

green6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

I usually agree with you but do you really consider the development of Killzone 2 a risk?Because i feel that pushing the tech to the level they did was not because Sony wanted to but because they had to.If Sony GG delivered a game that did not match the E3 05 pre rendered trailer, Sony would have had a huge PR disaster on their hands.They had no choice but to pump as much money as possible into GG and even enroll the help of Insomniac games to ensure that the game was technically perfect.And as for the genre, well it's as safe as safe can be.

Left 2 me i believe taking the franchise Halo to the least most popular genre in console history, is a way bigger risk than what Sony took.

EDIT: And as for the sales of Killzone 2, well i believe they are good but not outstanding because Sony will be biting their fingers and asking themselves this question "where the fu*k is our Halo,Gears or Call of Duty rival".

GiantEnemyCrab6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Green: 5 years development and 60mil in dev costs when games like Halo 3 cost 10million and many game budgest are well under 10 million. Yes, it was a huge risk in both time and resources.

They did set the bar high and I'm sure they felt they had to meet the target since they were scrutinized so much for it. For a company like Sony that is struggling and pushing to be profitable that kind of investment after the first title was not well received was a big risk.

Just think about it from a developers perspective. If you are going to make a game that competes with KZ2 and you might sell 2 million units are you going to do it? Or will you make a WiiJuggle game and sell 5 million units and it will cost you 1/10th of the dev cost and time of KZ2.

This is an argument against the PS3 in that are dev's going to invest that kind of resource into getting a game like KZ2 quality out of it? If they aren't pushing it the tech means very little. They need incentive to do it.

pippoppow6262d ago

Maybe because most have a 360 for Gears and Halo so those titles will fly off the shelf when released. PS3 has a more diverse lineup of highly wanted games with a smaller U.S. install base. Wonder how much of the sales are from the Arcade sku? Probably most which would indicate the 360 is mostly selling on price alone. 360 home of the multi-plats with exclusive DLC and PC ports. Guess it's fine for most IN THE U.S. along with it's low price but most around the world disagree. Omega4 you deserve 360 fanboy of the month with an all expense paid vacation to THE OPEN ZONE zone ....

RememberThe3576262d ago

Have a 30 million dollar advertising budget? I don't think Killzone had even a fifth of that. Plus, SCEA can't advertise anything...

@Crab: I thought Halo 3 had 30 million dollars production costs?

Why o why6262d ago

If killzone 2 was the only game that pushed technically then i could agree with green but in truth it is not. Sony didnt have to to anything because they were forced; they did it because that's what they try to do....and that is push limits, raise bars or what have you. If i knew nothing of gow, heavy rain, uncharted gt5 I'd almost go along with ya but again, this is what sony do

StephanieBBB6262d ago (Edited 6262d ago )

Hey Omega4 promise me right here right now IF Killzone 2 sells more than 323,000 in March you will delete your avatar on N4G and rename it "FailOmega4" =)

Put up or....

Danja6262d ago

why are you guys comparing Halo 3 sales to KZ2 ?

Come on now lets be a little realistic here..KZ2 was all media hype ...KZ doesn't have a fanbase base like Halo...

Sony / GG did not spend 5 years on KZ2 where do you guys get that crap from ?? ..wasn't it already confirmed that even up E3 2005 when they showed that Trailer..they didn't start production on the game at all ??

and spending 60 million on the game....was a risk but they have almost if not made back that money by now... 1 million in sales = 60 million...now exclude the other notable..and they have already gained back 40 million..and this was just in two weeks...

ne ways..im satisfied with the sales.. ..im sure Sony is also...

Nicolator6261d ago

FOR SONY FANBOYS to compare and hype kz2 up to halo3 .. they must have really shot themselves in the foot this time.. coz it was to be a halo killer right.. SELL MORE THAN HALO3 BE THE NEW BIG BOY IN THE BLOCK.. 350k sales in 2 days.. sorry that does not cut it.. if it really wanna take halo 3 crown.. tryin doing 10 million in a life time... (HALO 3 ONLY!!! SALES THERE) now we are seeing that is obviously not possible.. with 350k in 2 days bahhh.! (NEXT CHALLENGER coz kz2 does not cut it commercially)

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