Sony's Trailers Are Graphics Whores

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morganfell6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

The point is they should resort to the same sort of deception used by MS or simply be satisfied with butt ugly Wii quality in their games.

Do you notice how the graphics fight has completely disappeared from the MS quiver of arrows?

Besides, it isn't convenient how people forget trailers we have seen for 360 products - the E3 Mass Effect trailer springs to mind - stating "the following is entirely in game" etc etc.

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MasFlowKiller6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

watz the point of if article?

Sony your trailers are too impressive please tone it down?

"the recent trend of all of the PS3's exclusive AAA titles featuring trailers of all in-game footage."

WTF, lol

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GWAVE6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

This article is incredibly sad.

"Sony, the graphics for the PS3 are stinkin' amazing, but somehow sales should affect how much you are allowed to brag, so please stop flaunting your hardware."

Weren't journalists ragging on Sony for NOT advertising? Now they're being chastised for advertising with graphics that look too good?

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Blademask6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

I'd love to see n4g if the 360 pulled off a Killzone2. You think the doom articles are bad now...

Graphics never have mattered more than gameplay. But during conversations of graphics 360 owners would always pipe up about how their old console isn't old, and how the graphics can hang. Which they cant. Thats why we had the constant comparison threads of multiplatforms, it was the only way they could trump a ps3. With a bad port like bully for the 360.

I think it was Gears2 that finally put the nail in that coffin, that was their big "THIS WILL SHOW THE WORLD THAT THE 360 HAS JUICE LEFT!" then...well.. nada. Didn't look like the tech demo, didn't look like the bullshots. Now its "wait until other multiplats...lol.. "stop showing off sony!" is a long walk from "lol look at that texture zoomed in 900x, its better on the 360(celebration)!!"

This was always going to happen. Just a matter of time. The only thing the super haters can do is hold onto the fact that the 360 has a lead due to a year head start.

I dont think its ever going to end. We have the ps3 making sales, making better looking playing games. Having higher scores, and the hate continues. Ah well.. i for one will enjoy the 2009 lineup, and ingame commercials.

Other people are going to pretend to be impressed by pre-rendered non-gameplay halowars cut scenes.

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MURKERR6276d ago

lol
lmfao
ralmfao

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ZuperAmazingCooKie6276d ago

I guess he wants to beat Bloodmask now

joydestroy6276d ago

lol

what next i wonder...

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JHUX6276d ago

I have no idea what to think about this rofl....but I guess I should be mad at Sony, DAMN U SONY!

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Microsoft Xbox 3606276d ago

@New4Goons

Attention whore.

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pixelsword6276d ago

...I post it to steal their hits.

Sony's Trailers Are Graphics Whores
Posted by Derrick Sanskrit

We get it, Sony, the Playstation 3 is the most powerful of the three current-gen home consoles. You don't have to flaunt it over and over to make yourself feel better for being in last place in sales this generation. You seem to be treating this as a beauty pageant, and you're certainly not in the running for Miss Congeniality with these repeated boasts.

I'm referring, of course, to the recent trend of all of the PS3's exclusive AAA titles featuring trailers of all in-game footage. This would be fine, in fact commendable, if not for the fact that they have to tell us, heavily implying that other trailers rely on CGI cutscenes (they mostly do). The latest offender is this one for Sucker Punch's Infamous. It may be all in-game footage, but I'm pretty sure all that excessive blur and reverse time were added in post-production (the slow-down may very well be part of the game):

Others on the docket include God of War III and Uncharted 2, both of which look like intro cutscenes, but we're guaranteed they are at least in-engine of not direct gameplay:

You know what would help convince us this was in-game footage? A HUD. Some sort of graphical elements to convey "this is what's happening". You know your games have these. At least the occassional your-character-got-shot-so-now -the-screen-flashes-white-and- d esaturates that every action game does nowadays. Showing what could very understandbly be rendered footage and telling us it's all in-game isn't as convincing as it used to be (remember what happened with Killzone 2?). There's no shame in third place these days. Nintendo was third last generation and look at them now. I love you, Sony, just stop being so c0cky.

decapitator6276d ago

....And I get a lot of disagrees for pointing out that, there just way too many wanna be journalist who not only do not take the time to research something before they write about it, but they do not think about it at all before writing it.

Stupid article is stupid regardless of how you look at it. Am sure we will have some people defend this piece of supposedly "professional" article.

PS: What the FUK is nerve.com anyway ?

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ZuperAmazingCooKie6276d ago

"Just ignore him and maybe he will go away. "

"morganfail is banned from Joystiq
morganfail is banned from Edge Online
morganfail is banned from PS3 Fanboy
morganfail is banned from thatgamingsite
morganfail is banned from engadget "

Just for the record, Joystiq, Engadget and "PS3 fanboy" are the same site, and they were once run by Vladimir Cole (who once worked for Microsoft and always painted them as saints); the main site was full of Nintendo fanboys (like Fernando Rocker) and so were the authors. The funny thing is, PS3 fanboy was written mostly by level-headed journalists (which were probably dimmed as PS3 fanboys by the main site editors), and 360 fanboy was written by unprofessional c*nts such as Ken Weeks (thankfully he didn't last long). Joystiq is owned by the same company that owns GameFaily, the same guys that predicted giving Killzone nothing more than a score of 8 out of 10 even before the game had a playable demo, so is anyone even surprised at their behavior?

Edge Online? The same guys that gave Killzone a 7, Resistance 2 a 6 and Halo 3 a 9. Morganfell probably got banned for stating the truth. As for thatgamingsite, I never heard of that one, and I've been in plenty of websites, one can only conclude it's a no-name site.

WHO CARES, just because he is banned it doesn't mean he is wrong.

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evilmonkey5016276d ago

Glad to own a ps3.

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eagle216276d ago

360 was so "teh powerful" that it caused RROD's?

And PS3 helping cure cancer was mocked?

So I guess 360 causes stupidity and global warming. lol

PS3 causes GOTY and best graphics while helping cure breast cancer. I like that. :)

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morganfell6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Ha ha, I am proud to have been banned from those sites. There were no personal attacks waged there at all. Instead they were simple recounting of the facts that happen to have upset the 360 crowd. Thanks Cookie for pointing out the relations of those sites to which some are oblivious.

Blademask, Microsoft finally decided that attacking Sony on the graphics front was like trying to use kung fu on Bruce Lee.

Kain816276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

O.O

This is Madness....NO.....THIS IS THE "GHOST OF SPARTA"

Edit:"the graphics are absolutely shocking." --->According to GamePro's senior editor Sid Shuman

http://www.gamepro.com/arti...

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Danja6276d ago

Someone sounds butt hurt that the PS3 lived up to the promises on the graphical front...

lol..I can't imagine how games will look in the 5th year...this guy is gonna have a heart-attack then

Mindboggle6276d ago

1 word....Jealous

http://cgreviews.com/site/b...

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gaffyh6276d ago

LMAO, so before PS3 was not as powerful as 360, then they were the same, and now PS3 is more powerful than 360 and they shouldn't show it?!

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Eddie201016276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Just like the real losers to try and turn the tables, Losers being the ones that screamed from the mountain tops how great looking Gears Of War was, and constantly do video comparisons on third party games and no matter the reality the Xbox 360 version always looks better to them. Its funny, because when I first baught My Xbox 360 everyone on the forums were fussing about how the games didn't look next gen, but none of the think they are graphics whores now.

Sony PS3 fans Are no more graphic whores than Xbox 360 Fans, PS3 fans were mostly giving a response on graphics because the Xbox fanboys are always saying there games look better than PS3 games.

I enjoy my Xbox 360(at least as long as I can without RRODing on Me, I have had three so far) but a large part of the Xbox 360 community spoil it for the rest of the community.

fear886276d ago

Rather than then games themselves. I mean how else would Halo 3 get 10s across the board. If Halo 3 got awards for best graphics at VGA and Gamespot, I don't think the people voting actually played past the mode select screen. I mean why else would Gears of War 1 suck in graphical comparison to the awesomeness of the full Halo 3 intro CGI movie and commercials?

crazy-eyez-killah6276d ago

Gargantuant fail article.

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IcarusOne6276d ago

All Unreal baby. And if you want to talk about BS CGI trailers, KZ is the queen of that pageant.

Rock Bottom6276d ago

So now having good graphics is a bad thing?
this article is retarded.

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pixelsword6276d ago

...these articles are tired; it's funny that only HHG articles are failed, but garbage like this stays on the site.

You know; forget it: see you Sunday.

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crazy-eyez-killah6276d ago

@ Icarus, That is Bullshit. I distinctly remember a CGI ad for Gears with the guy running down a street to the song 'Madworld'.

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morganfell6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

How is Killzone 2 the Queen when Guerrilla surpassed that CGI trailer? Now HALO 3? That is the Emperor and absolute dictator of CGI trailers. I love that game but it wasn't even in the same universe as the trailer. HALO2? It used a combination trailer that went so far as to be shown in theaters.

So are you for the article or against it? You seem to dislike CGI so therefore you must be in favor of Sony's efforts. In that case, thanks for supporting the PS3!

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Why o why6276d ago

IcarusOne = hater. you can tell by his tone and one sided comments. He cant remember the usual epic bullshots. People hate what they cant have or just dismiss it. People who were lording gears now want to make peace or want to have the high moral ground. Human nature mixed with fanboy nature.

No disrespect to gears and all that its just we're still waiting. This console war would be MEGATON if MS had an equal amount of studios. The unreal engine would of been surpassed a long time ago. Of course thats all hypothetical and its only sony who have the resources to produce multiple game engines and technologies hence the differing engines used by gow, heavy rain killzone, gt5 etc all pushing the hardware in one way or the other.

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IcarusOne6276d ago

1. I don't support this article. I'm all for more in-game and less CGI. By all means, promote the PS3's graphics as much as possible.

2. Gears NEVER had a CGI trailer. If you've played the games, then you know every piece of marketing was always in-game. That was the point, and it's one of the reasons why Gears ad campaigns are legendary, especially amongst those in the advertising industry. Trust me, I live with one. Even Marcus Fenix running through the night alley. Totally in-game. I know. It's very impressive.

3. I look at your link and the 2005 column looks better. The render is smoother and cleaner. The character models are prettier and better defined. Beyond that, the color scheme has CHANGED but not necessarily improved. Can we say the game is perhaps more "frantic" than the target? Maybe. There's more fire and brimstone. But this doesn't mean it LOOKS ANY BETTER.

Try looking at the two in HD on your reference monitor. Try any high-res screenshot of a character's face or the environments. KZ's engine DID NOT meet the target trailer, and it certainly didn't surpass it. I realize this is a matter of opinion, but it's still a correct opinion.

4. Halo never claimed that any of its CGI trailers were representative of in-game. The only Halo 3 add that was in-game was the announcement with MC walking into the FG. Everything else was CGI and pretty obvious about it not being gameplay.

5. @ why o why - Say hello to hypocrisy. It's a beautiful thing.

You may now disagree at your leisure.

CobraKai6276d ago

Of course it's gonna be graphics heavy. It's a trailer. it's meant to be seen not played.

HolyOrangeCows6276d ago

People are running about things to cry about.

And the trailer DID indicate gameplay. Guns, huge attention to detail, and war related battles.

If anything, MS's trailers are graphics whores. Remember that stupid trailer of them drilling underground for Gears of War 2? That didn't even have the SLIGHTEST hint towards the gameplay.

GarandShooter6276d ago

@ Icarus

The 'Rendezvous With Death' Gears 2 trailer is in game?

Cutscene rendered in engine?

If you can provide a link proving that, then yes I would agree, very impressive. Very cool percussion track. My favorite Gears 2 trailer.

In game?

Aikuchi6276d ago

I wonder if is because all the developer on the ps3 have to become creative and actuly develop there own engine. but on the 360 most of the devloper just licence the unreal engine, and tht dosent always work for them, remeber Sillicon Knight problems for Too Human.

Mikerra176276d ago

completely bullshi!!ed the consumer with their cgi adds you cannot say they didnt do it on ppurpose

likedamaster6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Poor God of War 3 trailer. They had the chance to update the art direction on the game and didn't, everything looks the same as God of War 2 albeit sharper visuals. The cyclops still looks like he has two eyes. They couldn't make it look any clearer on the ps2 because of graphical limitations yet its the same on ps3 - unacceptable!

Could've, should've, would've is the words they'll be singing when the game drops this fall.

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Jinxstar6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

http://www.gametrailers.com...

CGI Trailer for icarus... Pending he's actually 18 he can watch it. Otherwise get your parents permission.

Right on the bottom. "Cinematic" Meaning not in game unless otherwise stated such as "ingame cinematic' Like god of war 3 has.

You really are totally biased man. Trolling like mad.

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ProperFunked6276d ago

"i'm referring, of course, to the recent trend of all of the PS3's exclusive AAA titles featuring trailers of all in-game footage. This would be fine, in fact commendable, if not for the fact that they have to tell us, heavily implying that other trailers rely on CGI cutscenes (they mostly do)"

"You know what would help convince us this was in-game footage? A HUD. Some sort of graphical elements to convey "this is what's happening""

"Showing what could very understandbly be rendered footage and telling us it's all in-game isn't as convincing as it used to be (remember what happened with Killzone 2?). There's no shame in third place these days. Nintendo was third last generation and look at them now. I love you, Sony, just stop being so coccky."

so yeah basically he saying ease it up with the in-game shiz it's cramping his style. "stop being so coccky"...???

IcarusOne6276d ago

I don't see the letters "CGI" in that title either.

And maybe this makes me a stubborn flamer, but no matter how many trailers or clips or titles of clips you roll out in front of me (though I'm happy your taking the time out of your day to do so...) it will not change the fact that the Gears ads have always been done with the Unreal engine. Always. Since before Gears existed. Since before Unreal existed. Since before god.

C'mon. Are you seriously telling me you can't just tell when a cinematic is CGI or in-game? Or have you just never played Gears? Who in their right mind honestly thought the Halo Wars cinematics were in-game? Don't you think if that had been the case, the industry would have been hearing a lot more about the game's graphics? (I suddenly got this image of the ps3 cult, having never actually experienced the 360 first hand, seeing the Halo Wars ads and sh!tting themselves: "The f^cking xbox can do THAT?!")

Speaking of those cinematics, they're the best in the industry so far. In terms of CGI, whoever did Halo Wars is the reigning king. Watching the opening of the demo was one of the most beautiful experiences of my gaming life. Ahhh...how my heart flutters.

crazy-eyez-killah6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

@Icarus, do you even know what CGI means? Gears in game is CGI (Computer-generated imagery).. but the point is that trailer is in-engine, not in-game/real time. Its pre-rendered.. What people usually call CGI as it is done offline and is not restricted by hardware.

SevWolf6276d ago

Check this link out: http://www.youtube.com/watc...
I'm not a 360 hater and I know Gears 2 is a realy gd game but when a retard posts SH*T claiming its true I have to prove to him that he's a retard, look at 7:06 and tell me if thats "in game" like your saying its not and you can see the differences

Why o why6276d ago

Hello IcarusOne ;)

SevWolf6275d ago

Lol at the reply one of the funniest ive seen lol.....didnt expect that
Bubbles

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Fishy Fingers6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

LOL...

He's pi**ed they use in-game footage? But even more so that they say on the trailers that the footage is "in-game"? Ok....

Correct me if I'm wrong, everyone states "in-game" footage when using in-game footage? Isn't that the point of doing it, to show people what they're getting? I much prefer that to the recent trend of using "Representative of gameplay". Or even worse, completely miss representing the game, ie, Halo Wars.

I dont really understand the point of his rant, other than writing another Sony centric article to draw attention.

Waste of time.

Tony P6276d ago

Yeah, I kinda like seeing the graphics representative of the gameplay than a few cutscenes. Cutscene advertisements always bothered me because you just know someone out there can't tell the difference between the two. It's a good thing to move away from imo. More honest and you can advertise the game on its strengths.

heroicjanitor6276d ago

I see the writer's point I wish they would totally mislead us with cgi followed by "graphics representative of game". I much prefer watching the art of deception and misleading wording evolve.

Ghoul6276d ago

you cant really say much to this bs

what else do they want ? the bullshots and faketrailers sony had when they introduced the ps3. or the bullshots ms delievers on every major game only to find out that ingame quality is muuuch lower ?

i say this time sony makes everything nearly perfectly. just a pricedrop is missing rest is stellar sofar the last 12 months.

nothere4136276d ago

Honestly. Who wants to buy a game that they haven't seen gameplay of?

Narutone666276d ago

when Nintendo used to advertise on TV their games on NES. All CGI, and the children would be impressed thinking that it was all in game. After buying the game, they would all go, what happened to all the graphics we saw on tv? It's the same now with Xbox 360 games mostly.

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panasonic236276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

lol this article speak the truth

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DavidMacDougall6276d ago

You mean he speaks to idiots like you

cliffbo6276d ago

but why do i get the feeling that 'lol' in your post is put there to hide your tears?

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Nelson M6276d ago

"the Playstation 3 is the most powerful of the three current-gen home consoles"

What That bit of Truth

Microsoft Xbox 3606276d ago

Yeah he does speak the truth but you also just confirmed and agreeed that the PS3 is the most powerful console of the three.

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ps921176276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Lol yeah this article is completely true, no ifs, ands or buts.

Dimitri6276d ago

When the PlayStation 3 came out it recieved some pretty bad ports and everybody started to dought that PS3 would be more powerful than XBOX 360. PlayStation 3 was critised for bad graphics, poor gameplay - FPS loss etc.

So now when SONY shows off their pretty looking games everyone is mad at them ??
Mad for what ??
Are those people jealous, that it does better than the XBOX 360 ??

Isnt this what is was supposed to do ?

People need to get a fuking life.

From day 1 SONY said PS3 can do better, and its climbing this ladder all the time, faster than the 360 in terms of gameplay and graphics, when compared to exclusives.

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Parapraxis6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Sony shouldn't market their games and the graphical abilities to consumers!
It's not fair that they are "flaunting" their games like that, how underhanded can they be.
Shouldn't they try to help their competitors by downplaying the accomplishments achieved on their flagship console?
Sony, you're so mean!

/sarcasm

madpuppy6276d ago

I kinda' like this article though. think about it. Unless you either blindly dislike Sony and the PS3 or you have no deductive reasoning this article should backfire in it's intent. the open minded will read this and see an article that complains about how powerful and good looking games are on the PS3. what a nice thing for the author to do! I have to give a special shout out to "ThatCanadianguy420" for Posting a link that gives the PS3 the respect it deserves! High quality in game CG on the most powerful gaming console on the market today. It is so powerful that it's competitors and fans want Sony to stop showing in-game footage for fear it will start to hurt their sales of the low end kiddie console and the great white space heater. ( I can say that because I own one and you can fry eggs on that RROD machine)
Blah...

REALgamer6276d ago

Well said.

Is it wrong to show your game if the art and programming team has spent so much time making beautiful visuals?

Graphics are a part of any game, and if you have made something beautiful why should it be hidden? Of course gameplay incredibly important but until people can get their hands on it why not show them your technical and artistic achievements?

It's just like other games such as Mass Effect and Gears of War 2 used in-game graphics in their trailers - and believe it or not the gameplay was great as well.

Showing great visuals in a trailer does NOT mean gameplay has been neglected, it means it's too early to let people play it since the tweaking and design isn't finished yet.

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Raoh6276d ago

lmfao so now its wrong to show the power of your console? just last year pre mgs4 the discussion was that ps3 graphics werent that much better now that they are its a proble?

morganfell got it right, i havent heard a ps3 hater use graphics in their argument in a long time..

uxo226276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

I can't really ever recall a "Sony Hater" using graphics in their argument. I think this is something that Morganfell came up with out of his own head. I have seen people do game comparisons between the two and say the 360 version of that particular game looked better.

But the graphics arguments is and always has been a PS3 owner "Arrow" as Morganfell put it. This have a name for this type of defense mechanism, however the name eludes me right now.

Either way, I do agree the article is clearly lame. However I do agree that the ingame argument would be better received it they left the "in game" HUDs and what not in the commercials.

Edit: One more thing, I would like to see some the claims loyality to the PS3 to show some form of objectivity be at least disagree with people that make completely stupid comments about MS or Nintendo. A stupid comment is a stupid comment regardless to whom it is aimed at. You guys tend to blindly agree with anything said about Microsoft it the comment is negative.

Sarcasm6276d ago

"I can't really ever recall a "Sony Hater" using graphics in their argument."

Wow, so the "Gears of War cant be done on the PS3" by Cliffy B. just went right over your head?

Followed by the mass amounts of "hahahaha PS3 graphics sucks!" by the hordes and hordes of 360 fanboys?

The reason you don't see the graphics argument today, because games like Killzone 2, Wipeout HD, etc. etc. shut them all up.

So it's now resorted to "sales" or crap like this article.

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uxo226276d ago

I never read what you're talking about. I'm really ready to stand corrected. Please provide links to the footage or article where cliffy b said Gears 2 couldn't be done on the PS3. (I never knew Cliffy B was a PS3 hater, especially base on one alleged comment.) Also a little of that follow up information about others saying the 360 had better graphics would also help support your argument.

blackpanther256276d ago

no offense dude, but go look that sh!t up yourself. Nobody has to (emphasis on has to) prove anything to you. Go and google and u may find some forums of 360bots getting on the graphics of the ps3.

If you don't believe than that's fine, but none here has an obligation to change your point of view. Go to kotaku and check there old articles if they still keep them.

Hell even i used to say that crap especially with Resistance: Fall of Man (cause to me that game is crap). Personally, i think your full of crap and i not expecting you (nor do i want you to change my point of view)

On topic: This article is funny. It officially made my day

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Pennywise6276d ago

We should have Sony advertise their games with hand sketched doodles... you know to make everyone else feel good about themselves.

God forbid they should show gamers what their games look like!

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Parapraxis6276d ago

I'd say approve this one guys, It will only show how desperate some sites and individuals have become.
Seriously, claiming that it's unfair that Sony uses fantastic graphics to leverage their console above and beyond the competition only makes it more evident that the games coming out for this console are groundbreaking.
It's not all about graphics either, the gameplay in all of the games that are "flaunting" their graphical prowess is also fantastic.
Developers realize that you can't just shovel out games on PS3 that are just pretty, they have to be fun and enticing and actually earn their recognition. The games that have made advancements in graphics on the PS3 thus far, i'm happy to say have satisfied not only visually, but in every other crucial aspect as well.
MGS4, LBP, KZ2, Uncharted, Heavenly Sword and Motorstorm 2 (to mention a few) all look great, but the best thing is, they are a blast to play as well.

Gue16276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

True or Not this is lame... The article's so short and stupid that I don't know what the contributor is thinking by posting this piece of crap. But what is more impressive are the people that are approving.

LoL ;-D

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BTW Let me tell you that this is the first time I see that footage of inFamous and it looks sick!!! So go on, approve this already!

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ThatCanadianGuy6276d ago

"I don't know what the contributor is thinking by posting this piece of crap"

Well for starters.Hello :)

First thought was..hey..hope this gets approved and fades into the backround..

Don't like the article? Cool,me neither.Don't click it or comment and it won't get degrees.

Doesn't mean i shouldn't post it.If i don't,someone else will.Why shouldn't i get the points for doing it?

Doctor_Doom6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

I agree with the Canadian guy. he is just doing his work as a contributor and I don't know why do people take it so seriously ?? strange !!!

blackbeld6276d ago

Agree with you Wiimaniac.. This article is waste of my time...

Derrick Sanskrit must have felt on his head i think.. How can someone write nonsense like that..

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ApocalypseShadow6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

but ps3 fans,just be happy you bought into an outstanding platform and was able to ride the storm of LIES from microsoft and their minions.

now it's "too much real time."

before it was:

"too much variety."

"too many features."

"too much space on the disc that is not needed."

"too much hard drive space.""20gigs is enough."

"too much power from CEll for gaming."

"too many blades of grass in one game."

"too many enemies in heavenly sword."

"too much mud in a racing game."

"too many detailed cars(16) on one track."

"a free 3D community is too much."a page is more than enough."

"too much weight in the controls."not floaty enough."

"too many online gamers in one game.""20vs20 or 30vs30 or 256 gamers in one online game is too much.""4vs4 or 5vs5 is more STRATEGIC."

the haters have fallen.those who saw the light,bought a ps3.the rest still hold on to the belief that ps3 and 360 are equal.we pity those individuals.but at least we no longer have to hear bullsh!t from the likes of

top gamer-sony4u-elite gamer-real deal....SAME DUDE!(bought a ps3)
the mart(STHU)
kewlkat(bought a ps3)
bloodmask(makes cash on n4g with ps3 articles)

i could go on but those who have been around long enough know what i'm talking about.

soon it will be **too many things i can get for $299.**

apocalypse................

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DavidMacDougall6276d ago

Its approved welcome to N4G

ZuperAmazingCooKie6276d ago

You made my day, I can't stop loling

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no-spin6276d ago

hey dude you exploded with that post lol
Good points, Why gamers dont want to play the better console is strange, but good for us that Sony delivers on their word and the PS3 is only getting warm up.
Play B3yond B*tches

Pennywise6276d ago

Pure ownage with that post! I LOVE IT!

They are running out of things to bash Sony with... and Sony just keeps coming.

I love how you called out some of the haters that bought Ps3's... there are a lot more where they came from.

ApocalypseShadow6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

the haters now hide behind the

"i'm just a gamer."

but they didn't act like that 2 years ago.hide behind bubbles they earned bashing ps3 for 2 years.now nit pick ps3 as ps3 owners and its games because it's not a 360 or its games.or act like every fps game should control like COD.

their FUD made individuals like me,who have an original xbox(and almost every other console),choose a side because i don't want gamers to

1)return their systems multiple times because it's broken.
2)pay $100 dollars for wifi that should be low cost or free(built in)
3)pay to play online
4)pay for DLC that should have been on disc.(started on 360 first.now we all deal with it)
5)support a company that closes GOOD developer's companies.
6)support microsoft's lies and arrogance.

those haters wanted us to support the 6 issues i have above by buying 360.and more.but we all know there are other reasons.

but now,they hold on to "sony needs to stop telling us it's in-game."

PLEASE......

apocalypse.............

pwnsause6276d ago

yea I can wait for the "too much Teh Sexy gamez in teh GOW III", 7 out 10.-Gamespot

just like "too much Variety" in R&C:TOD.

Montreafart6276d ago

"OMGZ ITS JUST TOO GOOD!!! MINUS 4 POINTS!!!"

Hahaha

UltraNova6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Apocalypse

Hey man take it easy there's enough ownage in your last two comments to last another generation of console wars, seriously leave some for the ps4 vs xbox 720 round! lol lol

Priceless...

Welcome on board man!

PS: Not that I agree with you, of course if I did it would make me a ps3 fanboy right? Oups people are getting 'punished' when they say that kinda stuff around here! No not really...

no-spin6276d ago

have you read apocalypse history posts?
he has been owning haters with his page long posts that delivers what many trolls around here want to ignore, deny, or twist in their "advantage". Kudos to apocalypse for keeping this place with some credibility and making haters whine in silence

themyk6276d ago

that was an epic post. bubble up good sir bubble up.

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PirateThom6276d ago

I praise Sony for using in-game footage for their games.

I'm fairly certain it's the first time it's ever actually happened since games went 3D.

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Unicron6276d ago

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Oh no, boo hoo, they are showing great looking footage of great looking games. Man, they show CG (KZ2 originally) and they get slammed. Now they show actual footage, and they are being arrogant? Please. Pathetic.

What a JOKE of an "article."

N4G - approving TRASH daily. GG guys, GG.

GWAVE6276d ago

You forgot all the articles where journalists slammed Sony's lack of advertisements. Now they're advertising TOO much? Lol.

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nightelfmohawk6276d ago

Of course graphics matter. If they didn't matter, I wouldn't have upgraded to the PS3 and bought a 1080p LCD TV. That said, I know plenty of games are great without good graphics on par with PS3 (i.e., Nintendo games), but graphics definitely matter this gen.

I do want a Wii though for both Wii games and GCN games. I used to own a GCN and regret having to sell it for gas money one time.

SRuN46276d ago

Okay, what's the point of this article? He says quit rubbing the whole "in-game footage" thing in our faces, yet it seems like they go on to say that it's not in-game because there is no HUD?

Last time I checked, if there was a HUD that'd be gameplay footage, not a trailer. I don't remember the last time I saw a game trailer with the HUD on.

PirateThom6276d ago

Not to mention, the HUD can be completely disabled.

Ghoul6276d ago

anyone in gaming media stating that

"nohud = not ingame"

should get thrown out of the office asap and never return. those who dont know that disabling the overlay HUD is a standard in gaming programming since you mostly can simply disable the renderpass wich renders the hud to remove it.

Aikuchi6276d ago

If I'm not mistaken aren't there skulls in both Halo 2 and Halo 3 that turn the HUD off. Sounds like a pretty hypocritical argument to me.

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Nelson M6276d ago

The Xbox dont have a Problem in Showing off one of it's Best Features
The RRoD

olivia6276d ago

LMFAO THIS SH*T MAKES NO SENSE IF ANY OTHER CONSOLE SHOWS IN GAME GRAPHICS THEY GET A AWARD BUT IF THE SONY CONSOLE SHOWS THEY GET BASHED TO DEATH .REALY THIS IS 2009 PS3 AS NOTHING TO PROVE ANY MORE ALL IT NEEDS IS A PRICE CUT TO DOMINATE

Panzer886276d ago

SONY'S ONLY IN 3RD PLACE BECAUSE THE 360 GOT RELEASED 1 AND HALF YEARS BEFORE THE PS3!!
IT GOT TO 20 MILLION CONSOLES A LOT FASTER THAN THE 360 AND FOR THE MUCH HIGHER PRICE SONY IS DOING RATHER WELL!!!

ChickeyCantor6276d ago

I don't understand why people type in full caps...Am I missing something? Do i need to grab my 4D goggles to see some effect?

MetalProxy6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

aaah dude you need a pair of regular glass, period. But the all caps thing is silly.

pwnsause6276d ago

if you wear to wear 4D goggles, you were to see old people then. if you know what 4D is you would understand what I mean by that. its called time.

ChickeyCantor6276d ago

@pwn,

No sh/t... I was stretching it since 4D was really something back when a particular console was introduced.
It's a joke, a lil stab but its still a joke.

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Nelson M6276d ago

This Guy will Hang himself in a Few years When He See's the Advertisements

i_like_ff76276d ago

Why would you add hud into a trailer?

Aclay6276d ago

"I'm referring, of course, to the recent trend of all of the PS3's exclusive AAA titles featuring trailers of all in-game footage. This would be fine, in fact commendable, if not for the fact that they have to tell us"

Putting the words "in-game footage" before a trailer starts isn't being "c*cky" that's just Sony informing any doubters that the game is indeed REAL TIME.....You've always got these people that are like, "Heck no, the trailer looks too good to be real-time and it's CGI", and there's nothing wrong with noting "In-game Footage" before or during a trailer.

Sony can't help it that the exclusives coming out for the PS3 are some of the best looking games this generation and that it's getting harder and harder to discern between CGI and Real-time in various PS3 games.

The author wants Sony to find another way to convey Real-time gameplay footage without putting the words "In Game Footage" before a trailer starts by using a damn HUD or something, but Sony can show off their games any way they want too, DEAL WITH IT.

I totally disagree with the article, but I'm approving it because to me this just goes to show how it makes people feel uneasy about the impact that PS3 games have been having and the way Sony is displaying their own games... and I LOVE the fact that it makes people feel that way.

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lordgodalming6276d ago

Not to mention the fact that Sony got blasted so hard by the fact that they DIDN'T say the original KZ2 trailer was in-game (because it wasn't). Now they're just letting us know what's real and what's a target render. No complaints from me about that.

farsided6276d ago

who actually passed this article? this is fanboyistic garbage designed to piss people off! (and yes i do own a 360) hey guess what? microsoft, sony, and nintendo all use in game footage in their commercials! (and dupe it to make it look nicer!) it's called advertising! quit allowing stuff like this to make it onto the front page of n4g!

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eagle216276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

I guess since PS3 wins all the GOTY and Best Graphics/Technology Awards now, the industry should stop award shows. Yeah right! :)

You would think the PS3 made his 360 get an RROD or something.

This article = FAIL. :)

NeloRisi6276d ago

Honest to God, this "article" is baffling. He wants HUDs on these trailers? Then they wouldnt be trailers would they? If they had HUDS, they'd be gameplay footage. Notice the difference?

A trailer is something that tries to artfully showcase a product - you can use CGI for that or you can use the in-game engine.
Showcasing a gameplay section isnt a trailer... its a *showcasing of a gameplay section*.

JD_Shadow6276d ago

...Sony isn't allowed to advertise their product all of a sudden?

PLEASE tell me where this logic ISN'T flawed!

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lordgodalming6276d ago

Um...what?

Socomer 19796276d ago

Must be hard to explain to people about the commercial for a ps3 game they just saw if you are a xbox360 only fanboy.

now they admit defeat and are begging for mercy? HA hA HA !
imagine if halo 3 had killzone 2 graphics? you know like how they showed in the halo 3 trailer.

what if call of duty looked like killzone?
well folks, now that the engine is done we can expect alot of what if games to be exclusive to the ps3 while these 360 fans choke on thier drool.

Scruffy_K6276d ago

Ya, Sony, stop making your games look so good. How dare you make a good, powerful system. You're in third place, your system is suppose to suck. So start acting like it! But seriously, what the hell? Why do you write an article like this? All of the companies flaunt what they do write. That's like telling Microsoft to stop talking about Xbox Live and nintendo to stop... selling to old people? Seriously dude, calling them arrogant for having good looking games is just stupid. Go back to the basement fanboy.

cmacdonald6276d ago

The internet is dumb.

Zeus Lee6276d ago

Then:"Wtf Sony,Killzone 2 trailer is CG?!?!Why didn't you tell us?!?"

Now:"Wtf Sony,Killzone 2 trailer is in-game?!?!?Why are you telling us?!?"

Around and around it goes,where the dumb sh!t stops,nobody knows.

Aceluffy6276d ago

Bubble for you sir for the last word of your comment that rhymes, me likey :)

mushroomhead6276d ago

What the hell is this article for???

JHUX6276d ago

I think they are saying that the ps3 needs to tone down the graphics for there trailers, or stop using ingame footage? I'm not sure, someone was probably drunk when they were writing it.

Godmars2906276d ago

So there, done.

Now all we need is actual footage. Or CG renders, which will get a free pass...

Parapraxis6276d ago

Everything shown for Alan Wake, thus far, has been from a high end computer.
A.W. isn't getting a free pass until we see actual in-game footage on 360 that isn't touched up.

v1c1ous6276d ago

did this get approved?

JD_Shadow6276d ago

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Parapraxis6276d ago

Why not approve it?
It's one guys opinion.
It's a silly un-informed one, but does it do any harm to people who are interested in games that are pushing the graphical boundaries on consoles?
of course not.
If anything it emphasizes a point which many PS3 owners have been very vocal about since the PS3 entered this generation of consoles. With the architecture of the PS3 developer have the opportunity to make absolutely stunning games.
The PS3 is starting to push the bar higher and higher, whether or not the competition can match that mark has yet to be determined.
This article, as lame as it is, drives home the very clear message that the PS3 is making beautiful games. Why would any PS3 aficionado not want people to understand that?

boca6276d ago

its for LULZ , dont you know?

JD_Shadow6276d ago

You have a point there.

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PotNoodle6276d ago

Is this enough evidence that the PS3 still cannot catch a break?

Godmars2906276d ago

Guy from a no-nothing site posts a anti-PS3 article, gets tons of hits from irate PS3 fanboys.

get2sammyb6276d ago

... So Sony should make their games look inferior should they? Trailers are used for marketing. They want to sell games. They want to make money.

There is no ulterior motive.

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josephat846276d ago

Seriously!?! You're going to bash Sony because their trailers are too good? I don't understand his logic. They are not being stuck up, they're just showing how incredible their games are.

kws10656276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

that the writer of this article has really disappointed on the graphic qualities of MS games LOL

He is really tired of looking something good from SONY!

-EvoAnubis-6276d ago

Having great graphics, all actual gameplay, is now a BAD thing?

"Remember what happened with Killzone 2?"

Sure do. They released a target CGI render, and then surpassed it.

"You know what would help convince us this was in-game footage? A HUD."

Yup, because ALL games have a HUD displayed at all times. I mean, look at Afro Samurai! The trailers look good, but there's no HUD in them at all. Then again, there isn't a HUD in the actual game either....wait - what was my point?

This article is downright idiotic. I'm seriously having trouble typing this, I'm laughing so hard (I've had to correct almost every word typed out so far). All of a sudden, showing in-game footage is bad. That's great!

OF COURSE they're telling you it's real gameplay. You know why? Because it looks so damned good, it's easy to think it was CGI. And that, you morons, is a great problem to have.

pixelsword6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

100%

Microsoft Xbox 3606276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Shame on you Sony for showing off to the world that the PS3 is the graphical king by using realtime in-game footage as advertisements. Its not fair to the rest of the competition.

PantherDST6276d ago

If you were one of the N4G members who voted for this article you should feel ashamed. It serves no purpose but to incite the fanboys...

GarandShooter6276d ago

We now expect to see this comment from you on EVERY flamebait article.

You are going to be busy.

Jubo16276d ago

pathetic article worst i have seen in a long tme that isn't hhg.

threepy6276d ago

You have the best graphics, you show them off. Let's be honest, the PS3 and 360 were created for HD gaming and to make games look nice. If you pull it off, you show it off and whinging about it is just pathetic.
Showing in game footage is actually a good thing...

SpoonyRedMage6276d ago

Sony should advertise all their games using the Sackboy equivalents for the characters, because they look so much more awesome.:D

Godmars2906276d ago

I can see it now: Sackboy Helgast gunning down innocent Sackgirls until one turns out to be Nariko who turns around and beats the snot out of them.

And three months later Sony puts out on PSN!

SpoonyRedMage6276d ago

See I'm the type of gamer that doesn't mind crazy spin offs... as long as they're awesome.

I can imagine an ad campaign for GT5 where the cars just goes speeding round and then the window winds down and there's a Sackboy wearing shades in the driving seat.

GarandShooter6276d ago

That actually sounds like a very cool way to cross advertise both games.

Andras846276d ago

So Sony should hide it's consols strengths so this idiot feels better??

Every company will advertise their consoles strenghts you moron!

pixelsword6276d ago

People whined when Sony put out the Killzone 2 trailer in 2005, now that they have a grasp on their technology (and the technology is awesome) people are actually complaining that Sony is using the tech to accurately depict their games.

A. New. Low. In. Gaming. "Journalism".

Silent6276d ago

thats what happens when you jump from a Wii to PS3. Unbelievable graphics and gameplay. So good its unreal. Look at KZ2 Im still amazed. I need another game to get me off it. GoW3 might do the trick. I just hope they would release it earlier.

Rhezin6276d ago

nice

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You bought an Xbox6276d ago

You Bought an Xbox

Ha Ha

Looooser

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jBat176276d ago

so nintendo's next-gen console will be an SNES with a wii remote.

so M$'s next crapbox will.. still be defective..

as for sales, how cares whether the ps3 sells? as a gamer, all i care about is high-quality, good-looking games. the wii sells like pancakes with no good games, just shovelware. the 360 sold a lot for a crapbox but, look, it has no 2009 line-up. it may sell even more this year, though. again, how cares about that?

IQUITN4G6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

I'd be the first to admit how the PS3 does indeed trump 360's in raw terms - it can draw large amounts of polygons and insane use of gfx

One thing that definitely does strike you though coming from a 360 game and that is a definite lack of sharpness from the image you see on screen

I was playing Grid the other day on a lcd 32inch i guess and it was interesting seeing that PS3 seemed to blur it's graphics to the point that pixels were no longer as evident as they are on 360 - it's arguable of course if seeing pixels as pixels is indeed a good thing or not but on top of what i was seeing, i also felt a lack of scale from there being this reduced clarity of image

360 can at times(not always) have jaggies but there is a beautiful crispness to the image that is quite shockingly obvious when you go between machines

Like i said, i think PS3 is the better machine for the most but i do miss how much more i feel connected to a generated scene if i'm playing PS3

The simple argument would be that PS3 looks more photo realistic as a result of it's blurrier output but i'm afraid something is definitely not as striking as a result of this wash of fuzz

360 can at least decrease the sharpness of the tv setting but no amount of applying of sharpness to a tv can make for an as crisp image as 360 - try it for yourself and see

On top of all of this, 360 has better textures generally as well - one of the machines strengths over the PS3 but in truth it's the only one

Fact is PS3 outdoes 360 in a number of raw performance ways, but you have to ask yourself if at the expense of a beautifully clear in comparison to 360 visuals, the PS3 does lose a sense of real belonging to it's game worlds

I personally find it very hard coming from a 360 game to a technically better yet duller PS3 one

And some people just like insane texture quality and definition of image over how much geometry is being pushed

360 owners take for granted how clear everything is and it's really quite a shock when you find out about this PS3 difference

Both machines have pros and cons with neither one outdoing the other in a particular way

Personally i'd like both the delightfull crispness of 360 and overlly generous power potential of PS3

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Pennywise6276d ago

Wall of text smites N4G users for 233428347234HP. N4G user dies.

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boca6276d ago

so its "subtle beauty" argument again? once was enough :))

food866276d ago

I can agree and atest to what your are saying about xbox being sharper and having more texture quality but it does not hamper in no way the quality that is also shown on the ps3 and if it minimal differences bother a gamer from one console to another than you might as well pluck your feathers and call youself a fanboy.

likedamaster6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

"Wall of text smites N4G users for 233428347234HP. N4G user dies."

Finally, a genuinely funny comment. Adropacrich2 has some good points though. Bubbs for both.

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Pennywise6276d ago

Congrats N4G on approving such a dumb article.

This site is really killing itself.

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IQUITN4G6276d ago

I guess people disagree just for the sake of it then

You guys are full of sh!t

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redsquad6276d ago

Seems to be saying "Please make PS3 games look on a par with 360 games in adverts as it isn't fair on the Microsoft console"

MS don't mind paying to have JUST a 360 tag placed at the end of multiplatform game trailers, so they can shut up and take this (far more honest) practice from Sony.

I've always tried to cut the 360 some slack and even planned on getting one at some point (still undecided, but articles like this aren't helping), but reading bullplop of this nature is beyond infuriating.

thecaptain6276d ago

I love whores

Bumpmapping6276d ago

Wow dumbest s*** ever.First it's Sony PS3 isn't as powerful as 360 then PS3 is equal with 360.Then sony shuts every one up with Killzone 2 now there relying too much on graphics,I give up on gaming journalsim it's a f***ing joke!

redsquad6276d ago

See, I don't have a 360 so I go nowhere near news that features it. Why do sad haters like "News4Goons" (Ho, witty moniker chum!) troll articles about the PS3 (however useless those articles may be)? Are so really so desperate for attention?

IQUITN4G6276d ago

Why would an article like this change your mind about getting another machine.I'll likely get a PS3 at some point so i can play the fantastic Uncharted and were an article to come along that i didn't agree with, i certainly wouldn't be so daft as to change my mind regarding a purchase

thecaptain6276d ago

I'm a Banana!

Sir Ken_Kutaragi6276d ago

;-D

thecaptain6276d ago

It really makes no sense to dissent upon a game that one has not played nor a console that one does not own, nor played. Games are here for our enjoyment. I love graphical prowess as much as the next person. Story will be the main thing that draws me in to a game. But at the end of the day who doesn't love whores?

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Bladestar6276d ago

I see the point that this writer is trying to make.

The PS3 is nothing more than a tech demo platform for Sony to promote the cell and the blu-ray... well.. not really the cell... since after Sony sold their stake with the cell... they stopped talking about the cell as much as they used to.. if at all..

When a PS3 exclusive games comes out... it's all about the graphics... 1-2 months later.. the game is completely dead and abandon...

many of these games are so focused on graphics that.

A) Look great but the controls suck ala Lair. Or Kill Zone 2 laggy controls that the Sony leg humpers perceive as "realism".

b) Short as hell... Heavenly sword 4-5 hours of gameplay, Metal Gear 4 hours...

Even when the games are great.. like Resistance 1, 2 are abandon instead of keep pumping updates and DLC to give people more bang for the money.

Sony will spend a ton of money and resources in a game... not to mention 4-6 years of development... 1 Gameplay hour per year... focused on graphics... and then pretend that the budget, the development time... has nothing to do with it... but that it's do to blu-ray... and then go and compare to some xbox 360 games that are completely developed and shipped in less than 1-2 years...

But the party is almost over... Crysis Engine is around the corner... which will allow developers that are not waste a ton of money and time to cover up their game with makup in order to impress the ignorant.

agent0246276d ago

u don't see jack shet.

fcking bot. go eat a d!ck.

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ULTIMATE_REVENGE6276d ago

so now you people wait for new dev engines.....ummmmmmmmmmmm thats odd becuase you never took any interest in what the KZ2 engine could do before the game came out...ummmmmm????

Man_of_the_year6276d ago

Good argument there bro. Way to counter his opinion. Must be a Sony Fanboy to be able to come back at Bladestar with such an intelligent counter argument.

Grow up.

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silverchode6276d ago

A)you havent played killzone 2 or lair.
B)Gears of war is a short game but still good. A speedrun of mgs4 can be done in 3 hours, a speedrun of halo3 can be done in 77minutes

morganfell6276d ago

You shouldn't use the Crysis engine excuse for 4 reasons.

1 - Crysis is a fairly hollow game. There is a lot of eye candy but little depth. So the things you accuse Sony of doing is exactly what you will get on the 360 except it won't look as good.

2 - Crysis isn't going to run on the 360 like it does on the PS3. You see the new Crysis engine was built by a Euro dev team, not some US based entity with their head up Microsoft's rear end. Having already seen the Spec Cutsheet for the new engine one of the things it was built from the ground up to do was avail itself of the SPUs on the PS3. Welcome to 2nd place in the graphics war... again.

3 - Crysis isn't actually going to be the next big licensed engine for the consoles. That distinction falls to the Rage engine and as we have already seen that engine winds up looking better on the PS3.

You see my mentally deluded fellow poster, the Crysis engine will leave the 360 in no better place. The difference is the Rage engine is better at shifting large textures than the Crysis engine. So things aren't as bright for the 360 on the Rage engine and will be even worse on the Crysis engine. Welcome to 2009 where the 360 gets it's graphical ass handed to it by the PS3 only this time 3rd party devs are providing the bat Sony uses to mash Microsoft in the mouth.

4 - When you phrase things the way you do it is reminiscent of some hick in a movie saying "You jus wait. I mo get my gun." You should have brought it in the first place moron. Inevitably he gets curbstomped before he can reach the car." Straight to the frackin morgue pal.

The Crysis engine isn't due on consoles until at least 2011.

The 360 will be have been drawn and quartered by Kratos and his legions before you can stand up and say "I mo get my gun"

Bathyj6276d ago

Lair? Really? Lair. You still gnawing on that bone? Weren't the controls patched?

And Killzones controlls are are more realistic speed and weight compared to CoD's autoaim that snaps from target to target to target totally eliminating manualy aiming. I guess thats why so many bots like it.

Heavanly Sword, 4-5 hours? When? On a speedrun? People who speedrun deserved to be short changed. When did you play HS. You certainly didn't have a PS3 back then, if you've even got one now. Funny how you've always been against PS3, but still seem to be an authority on any game.

DLC? Really? Insominac already made Quest for Booty as well as managing to put out 3 top shelf games in 2 years, but you want them to waste their time nickle and diming us to death on skins and golden lancers because they what M$ does. Sorry, I'd rather they worked on new games instead. Who knows, GTA5 could be half done by now if they didn't have to mess around with quarter sized games that still take a year.

And weren't you one of the noisy ones saying if PS3 is more powerful then prove it? Now that the proof is not only obvious but pretty much unanimously accepted as fact, no one wants to see it anymore, graphics dont matter, who cares if a game looks better? Yet you look to Cryengine 3 as a saviour hoping graphics will matter to you again some day as well as picking every multiplat title to pieces hoping to find a pixel out of place or a shadow missing on the PS3 version.

Yeah the bot obsession with dissecting multiplats while claiming graphics dont matter is a bit of a paradox. Just shows what hypocrites you all are.

Lost-Cause6276d ago

Umm... Someone must not Play a PS3...
Bro Games that are Graphically Superior on the Playstation 3 are not Abandoned.. MGS Online For example It is Way more Surpior when it comes to graphics when it comes to Halo 3 And GOW.. And people still play online a decent amount. Now Its hard to believe that PlayStation owners are going to put down Killzone 2 in about 2 months Bro.. Just puttin it out there.

agent0246276d ago

whut's there to argue? look at his comment. it's full of shet. and ur full of shet too.

likedamaster6276d ago

PS3 is not the most powerful console.

Man_of_the_year6276d ago

Wow! Another great counter argument. Way to back up your reasoning. You still didn't counter his argument nor did you counter my point...you just added to it.

Grow up

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AJKanismajoris6276d ago

woah sony is getting hated again coz it's producing better visuals for it's games

FFS these people really need to stop it's getting beyond a joke now, picking at the ps3's good and bad points just coz they prefer the xbox 360

bviperz6276d ago

Wow, can't wait to see what they say when GoW or Heavy Rain comes out.

Salta_nelas6276d ago

So Sony gets bashed for putting out CGI trailers (like most devs do), and now, considering they only show real time trailers, they still get bashed:P

ahah...the irony.

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Shortstop6276d ago

Well just so you know, 360 fans, two of the main reasons why I didn't buy a 360 are: 1. It's Microsoft and 2. Online costs money.

Nothing personal. I just chose to support a company that at least doesn't appear to be always thinking about how to get more money out of me.

Socomer 19796276d ago

RRODER !!!

Slinger4206276d ago

Killzone 2 looks sooooo f***ing good and plays unbelievably well. I can't believe how great the game came out and I play it everyday.

Socomer 19796276d ago

so bladestar, you're some kind of expert pervert right?
Well, explain the rrod & why it fails you.

Why you're at it, explain what you think the crisis engine will do for the xbox360. You do know its coming for ps3 too & we both don't know how its going to be used.
Who are you? The prophet of xbox360? Why are you visiting ps3 gamers home & studying what games they are playing ? Its smarter to just buy a ps3 & going online you nitwit.

I feel wierd now watching porn off of the psbrowser & bladestar might be hovering around like ah hah! I knew you wasn't playing lair!
stfu bro you are sad.
Rrod!

thewolf56276d ago

there's two major problems with this article, one, it's mainly an article of opinion, completely aimless, two, why in the world is the word "Whore" used in the title, is the media really being reduced to be this pathetic?, have some decency with the English language, how about "Sony's Game Trailers Showing Only Optimized Graphics", I know that's a long title, but the topic is pretty useless in itself, I wouldn't recommend the term "CGI"... well because that's wrong.

randomwiz6276d ago

Everyone that posted here has to get a brain... everyone knows that Sony makes the trailers for their games right?(sarcasm)

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Parapraxis6276d ago

Is the fact that you as well are posting supposed to be ironic?

Silly gameAr6276d ago

This is too much. Why are people complaining over a good thing. This has to be one of the most pointless articles I've ever read.

I'm sad for gamers, man. This crap is ruining something I used to love.

BGDad6276d ago

FEAST UP AND DIGEST IT 20+ MILLION HA HA

xg-ei8ht6276d ago

Blademask & morganfell.

I've given you both a bubble.

The reason is although alot of us like sony and are lablelled as fanboys, it doesn't quite paint the right picture.

I knock M$, moreso the 360, for what it does wrong, and what the 360 guys compare against the PS3.

I don't have a 360. Nothing to do with being a fanboy. My brother has one, but before he had his, i was looking at buying a console. I considered the 360. Then i noticed alot of sites, youtube amongst others, telling stories of rrod,disc scratching. And that was a big reason for me not buying one, But another is the games.

I don't hate halo. I loved the first game. but i had it on PC.

I had halo 2 on PC and it crashed all the time, and i had major probs with it.

I enjoyed Gears of War on PC. And i thought it looked very nice.

I loved PGR on the dreamcast, a friend had one, and it was excellent.

I'm going to say this, i know people are going to disagree, but awhile ago i was in the market for a HDTV, i was dead set on LCD. But when i was in the shop, they had the same model in LCD & Plasma.

I flicked through the modes of both, but there was one major difference, the colour is so much more lifelike, and striking with more depth on a plasma. And although the plasma is really 1024x768, then upscaled by the tv to 720p/1080p etc. It still looks so good. Even though LCD is supposed to be sharper, you just don't see it.

Thing with Plasma is the engine built inside the tv. Thankfully mine is very good, and the games look amazing on it, which brings me on TOPIC.

I'm glad the graphics on the PS3 are getting better and how could anyone knock such a thing. The PS3 is pushing devs to outdo eachother. I see no such thing on the 360, the 360 afterall is saturated with UE3.

I like colourful games more, but i respect killzone2 for it's outstanding use of lighting,debris,animations, and particle fx.

I don't know if games are getting better, some old games are just classics, and will always be remembered that way.

But i have totally no complaints on the game front from SONY. Graphic or otherwise.

SONY - Bring on the trailers, and bring on the games. Anyway you like!

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food866276d ago

playing killzone 2 now and this article is trash. come back for round 2 with better arguments

Neo6046276d ago

graphic is not important for next-gen. we are happen with last-gen graphic, please make games smaller so it fit on DVD9.

Etseix6276d ago

hes jealous... thats all,.. dont flame him :(

Kyur4ThePain6276d ago

Is someone a little butt-hurt?

ULTIMATE_REVENGE6276d ago

Man_of_the_year loves Bladster so much hence why he always backs him up, his freaking GAY with him!

AndrooC6276d ago

If your console has something better then the others you try to flaunt it and over-expose it no?

Well no sh!t sherlock! If Sony wants to display the potential of its console then why the heck shouldn't they? What a pointlessly stupid article.

sephy 9 2 56276d ago

of the article honestly? Must've accidentally posted one of his free write sessions because this made zero sense.

Spike476276d ago

this article.

silvacrest6276d ago

gotta agree with the posters above

this is the saddest article i have read...ever

no point in listing why, even the 360 fanboys no

Ps_alm3k6276d ago

outperform 360 in:

graphic *** check******
more games ****check*****

Online ****almost**** next version firmware we will add a check.
Sales ****almost**** next price drop we will add a check.

Best console this gen, Fanboy aside ****CHECK******!!!!!

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Ldubbz6276d ago

^^^delirious? check

Ldubbz6276d ago

Im not quite sure whats funnier...how ridiculous this whole article is, or the fact that the fangirls in here dont even know why they're getting upset.

The whole article is just a love letter to Sony. The whole thing is meant to have a sarcastic tone, a wink of the eye if you will. Too bad its not only bs, but a bad joke as well.

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GarandShooter6276d ago

I think your use of the word 'fangirls' reveals how very upsetting this is to you.

Ldubbz6276d ago

I am utterly devastated....

GarandShooter6276d ago

You've got a sense of humor, I'll give you that.

dash--6276d ago

Damn alot more hating going on ever since KZ2 came out

Enigma_20996276d ago

... this article...

http://n4g.com/industrynews...

...is meaningless, right?

dkgshiz6276d ago

Nobody wants to see ugly turds like 360 games.

AngryTypingGuy6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Last gen, Sony fans said it was all about the games, since the Xbox was clearly more powerful, and Sony had better franchises. Now, except for Metal Gear, all of the third party franchises worth having have made their way to the 360, so they're saying it's all about graphics. So which is it? If the next Xbox blows away the PS4 in terms of graphics, then we know what they'll say.

The PS3 doesn't even blow 360 graphics away. Maybe with the exception of KZ2, RE5 beats everything. I will give credit to Sony for graphically taking advantage of their console more than MS has been doing with first party exclusives, but RE5 does prove the 360 can achieve those graphics, so hopefully you'll see them in a first party exclusives in the near future.

dkgshiz6276d ago

RE5 has good graphics. But it doesn't even beat MGS4. Saying it beats KZ2 is just stupid. Its not all about graphics. The PS3 has tons of good games. More then the 360 in my opinion.

AngryTypingGuy6276d ago

I guess that's a matter of opinion my friend. I definitely think RE5 beats MGS4 graphically. Of course I think the 360 has more good games too, like I said, matter of opinion. The 360 does have an entire year of an unopposed game catalog.

Lost-Cause6276d ago

In my opinon your wrong.. RE5 Does have great graphics but I dosent beat out MGS4..Also "I think the 360 has more good games too" Remark I also dont agree with .. Halo 3 and Gears of War are 2 games.. Hell Ill give you Fable.. 3 games.. Compared to the PS3 Library the 360 "Had" Good games

ZuperAmazingCooKie6276d ago

Here's what you're basically saying: "CUZ SONY FANBOIS SED SO LOL". Here's my reply:

-PS2, like Xbox, also had graphical masterpieces, like God of War, Shadow of the Colossus, FFX, MGS2, to name a few. PS2 had graphics AND games back then, not "just games", and not just graphics like the first Xbox. Sure, Xbox had even better graphics, but again, nothing to be envious off as PS2 had its own masterpieces. The difference wasn't as big as to say "Man I can't go back to play PS2", especially after the Xbox had hardly any games worth buying an Xbox for.

-PS3 has gotten just as many exclusives as 360 has since PS3 launched. The few remaining exclusives are either multiplatform franchises that came out in 2005 and 2006 (like Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Full Auto, GRAW, Elder Scrolls, Saints Row, Chromehounds, etcetera), or timed exclusives like Bioshock was. Microsoft basically has timed exclusive contracts and DLC not worth giving much of a damn when compared to full games. Sony has opted to focus on 1st party games and they're churning out quality while at the same time getting the same games as 360 is getting minus a few timed exclusive deals.

-Using multiplatform games is the best excuse 360 fanboys have now, huh? Resident Evil 5 is in both platforms, so it can't really be used as a metric for which console produces the best visuals, even if one has a better framerate.

Here's an example of 360 fanboy logic: "The 360 version of Bully looks the same as the PS2 version, except the 360 version is a glitchfest. Therefore, PS2 is more powerful." See how moronic the Microsoft zealots sound? The fact that the 360 has been used as the main development platform for most games proves how stupid that claim is. Capcom has been in possession of 360 dev kits for much longer than PS3 dev kits, and RE5 was one of the first games to be announced as multiplatform by capcom.

-Uncharted blows Gears of War 2 graphics away.

http://kineticninja.blogspo...

In every metric you compare them. Considering they are very similar genres, we have a winner. Gears 2 is supposedly 360's showcase. How sad that you have to resort to multiplatform games now that 360's best game has been destroyed by a year older game. Hell, Killzone 2 blows it completely out of the water, take a look:

http://www.lensoftruth.com/...

This is the first generation where fanboys have resorted to looking forward to multiplatform games, timed exclusives and DLC which will eventually make it to the other platform. At least, fanboys from one side of the fence. When did exclusive games stopped being the ones that actually took advantage of the hardware they used? Oh that's right, never.

Bathyj6276d ago

No ones saying its all about graphics at all. The haters are just saying now that the edge is apparent graphic is all Sony has when thats just not true. Kiilzone has graphic AND gameplay. Uncharted, GoW, LBP, GT5P, ALL of Sonys games have graphics and gameplay. Saying it doesn't it just grasping at straws in a last ditch attempt.

It like seeing a beautiful girl and assuming shes dumb without even talking to her. I know lots of hot girls that are fun to talk to as well. Stop being so one dimensional.

AngryTypingGuy6276d ago

I can show pictures too. Gears 2 looks better than Uncharted, period.

http://www.gamersyde.com/ga...

http://www.gamersyde.com/ga...

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Bill Gates6276d ago

....AAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

You silly and stupid BABOONS just need to suck it up you MORONS of the gaming industry. Everyone laughs at you stupid BABOONS.....AHAHAHAHAHAHA

What's the matter here is that you starterd a fight in the beginning of this generation, and now you're all getting your asses handed to you by a big BLACK and sexy beast, and you want that beast to stop slapping you BABOONS in your UGLY faces.....well guess what, you're all gonna continue to get yourselves b!tch slapped all the way until the end of this console generation. That'll teach you BABOONS to mess with PLAYSTATION and its intelligent crew.....AAAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

YOU SUCKA BABOONS....AAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA

ssj6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

The point of the article is this "to make yourself feel better for being in last place in sales this generation." as proven by each and every PS3 fans comments.

GarandShooter6276d ago

And the point of your feelgood post is if you can't have the best graphics, at least you have second place...for now.

torreyjs6276d ago

THIS JUST IN

THE WII IS SELLING IN FIRST PLACE

THE WARS ARE OVER NINTENDO WINS

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Bathyj6276d ago

So Killzone shows ingame footage showing exact what the game looks like when playing it and its a big deal?

Halowars shows CGI and ONLY CGI without one single ingame shot, not only showing what thet WISH the game looked like, but toally misleading those that dont know any better as to what type of game it is anyway, and its not a problem?

One's 100% honest and copping flack for it, one's bordering on false advertising and gets a pass, as usual.

dar366276d ago

this is for the cheap seats: THIS!!!! ARTICLE!!!! MAKES!!!! NO!!!! SENSE!!!! PS3 AND 360 ARE BOTH GOOD MACHINES. THE WII IS RUNNING AWAY WITH THIS GEN AND ALL PS3 AND 360 OWNERS CAN DOO IS FIGHT ABOUT WHO'S COMIN IN SECOND.

gersh6276d ago

What? This guy is mad because Sony likes to advertise their games and their games just happen to have incredible graphics?
This makes no sense :/

skip2mylou6276d ago

sooooooo they want sony to pretty much lower the consoles graphics instead of pushing the PS3 to its limits in terms of graphics? WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!???????? ?????????................

infekt6276d ago

Okaaayy.. ppp already! hogging all the afghan is not nice.

jacobdevos6276d ago

that i own a console that's going to get bad press for being really powerful!
if that's all the ammo the media has on ps3 now, then fire away
go make more articles about how good the graphics are, it's only going to benefit sony's sales anyways

BMS846276d ago

Crappy story.. get a life.

player-16276d ago

lol "sony please stop wowing us with your kickass trailers" this article was prob written by a 4 year old and should win worst article of the year strait up

Ebi6276d ago

Some people have too much time on their hands to write articles to write articles of this quality...

Crap! I have too much time in my hands to read crappy articles and respond to trash like this!

kratos-i-am6276d ago

Sorry what's this articles point? In business your meant to advertise your brand over those of your competition the best way you can! lol if we were to use this guys logic Sony would just shrivel up and die.

starvinbull6276d ago

Fact of the matter is that for the life of the PS3 the idea that it has no decent games or that it is only as powerful as the 360 have been banded about by sceptics and magazines alike. Now that the difference between the two consoles is becoming apparent rightly Sony want to people to realise this. On this very thread there are people who ill never accept the superior power that PS3 affords certain developers and will never accept that 50GB is a lot more than 9GB.

aaron58296276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

Sony, your graphics are becoming too good for the gamers..

SHOW OFF !!

I dont wanna play your games anymore, cos you are a graphics ho.

peeps6276d ago (Edited 6276d ago )

hmmm so because sony's console is last place in sales there games arn't allowed to have good graphics and no game what so ever is allowed to use CGI?? very odd article. As mentioned, did people have a god at games like gow or halo when they were first shown with cgi trailers...

I think people are annoyed because of the whole 'killzone 2 e3 trailer' which is silly when the game looks as good as it does. going back to halo. That first trailer looked way way better than ingame does but i don't remember people jumping up and down about that.

Why would you be annoyed that the ps3 has got some good looking games on the way :/

Edit: noticed someone reckons it's a sarcastic article. If thats the case then what idiots approved it?

Run_bare6276d ago

the only people that "think" this is graphic whoring, i find that very amusingly funny. There is no going backward for the PS3, they can't show anything less that the game should be Today ! (I did say Today!) I hope it can only get better.

karan86246275d ago

Sony has no right to advertise things that it is better at than the 360. It makes 360 owners cry, and that's just mean. Of course, Microsoft can advertise however they want... right?

Whoever wrote the article is a complete douche