if he hates the game why is he playing it non stop till it was released

cool gane, great graphics.. more hyped than MGS4, should have at least 2-3 million sold in first week (the 360 had less units sold as the PS3 right now when Halo3 came out but it did 4 million).

Many negative points about bad controls and so on.

This game will be forgotten in 6 months.

ya i bet something else leaves a bad aftertaste in his mouth

i love the kz 2 mp. Having tons of fun with it. no complaints here.

He probably sucks at this game this game thats why. Instead of blaming himself, he tries to find useless excuses.

-You can only have 2 Air Bots per team, easy to kill
-You can only have 4 turrets per team, just pistol shoot them
-If you are getting spawn raped go to another spawn point
-If you are getting base raped go thru the back exit and kill the base rapers with grenades
-Controls are the BEST for console FPS. After playing it, it renders all other FPS on consoles useless
-Objectives are easy to acomplish if you have half a brain
-You can join in small player number server
-Most servers have auto balance, Clan people cannot be always together
-I found alot of comunication on KZ2 random matches

L2P

http://www.killzone.com/kz/...

I need KA (Killzone Anonymous) people say am to addicted to it
It has ruin my life lol

I don't see that limiting the number of turrets is a bad thing. The only problem I have with it is that my team can destroy them so they can set theirs up. Only the enemy should be allowed to destroy them. Overall I think it's a great game, I do wish they would fix the online bot issue though.

some people just need to set thier parameters.

play a smaller amount of people.
turn friendly fire on.
just play bodycount/team death match.

that way its less confusing for you and people are more cautios about thier grenades and gunfire.

it's either the author sucks at the game and keeps getting pawned :P or his a total xbot

well and at the end this "crap" will beat PS3 this gen:)

sry dude, but the PS3 wont reach 360 sales this gen.

The more interesting think is IF even a price cut could help SOny.. cause the ps3 sold better for 599 USD as now for 399 :)

The More i play it the More i LOVE IT!!! ;-P ;-P ;-P

But I think it's good enough. Just good enough. I'm more about the single player anyway!

he has to go out of the game for squad management? what about the select button dude?

well it doesn't matter. it was clear that the cod and halo fans come up with **** but who cares? its better than those, that matters to me.

anyone complaining about the controls is a sissy :-)

free3sixty

shut up the 360 is priced like that because its hardware is so poorly built the ps3 is not far off the 360 and its $100+ more so it seems the ps3 is doing well shame this year the 360 will fall when all you have is multi plats to keep you entertained and the ps3 has that and lots of good exclusives coming out

you need to get off what your smoking pal

The kz2 hate is getting intense now. Ha, keep fighting the good fight bots. While I go play KZ2.

He is complaining because he can't play the way he wants every single time.

Its called team-play, if you want to have all 4 turrets, and all 4 drones at all times, then set up a game and play against bots.

PS3 is not far off the 360 ??

8 million units is not far?? and the PS3 has since 5 months lower sales world wide as the 360. EVEN IF the ps3 would sell like Nintendo Wii right now, it would take 2 years to be on par with the 360 while the 360 would be around 34 million.

Its just impossible for Sony, cause the 360 sells really great. The funny think is how PS3tards NOW complain about POOR 15k sales in japan for the 360.. as the ps3 was ALWAYS at 10-15k.. its just right now at 40k because of some good releases. Funny retards.

So if ps3 sales drop to 10-15k again you will say that he ps3 is dead in japan? no.. you will say that the 360 has only 5-7k.. LOL! Selfowned!

and hell yeah.. you have ALL THE EXCLUSIVES.. you also had more in 2008 as the 360.. the funny part is that MSFTs console sold 2 Million units more just with multiplatts xD. Its just known that the PS3 is BS in multis.

YOu can come with your BS shooter like resistance.
Good game but not for casuals -> uncharted
And all the other no name exclusives which sell 200k :D

All ppl around the world want to play need for speed, fifa, NFL, gta, some beat em up, Halo, Gears.. THIS are games with NAMES.. and a NAME moves a console.

Need for speed sold more that GT5P
Lego Indiana jones on 360 sold more than LBP on PS3.. (both bundled).. ppl just dont care about sonys BS.

The only game i wish on 360 would be GOTY MGS4.. best game ever.

I dont if this dude knows what he wants. He is all over the place in the article.
You DONT have to be in a squad it DONT take you out of the action if you are.
For ME, the only real issue with MP are, NONE which are gameplay breakers:
1. No Party System for Friends
2. You can still cheat to rank up (ranking should be on official dedicated servers)
3. Higher ranks do have big advantages over lower ranks

dont you get that call of duty is so very easy?
It really is. Like-too easy.
That's why I play advanced shooters where you need a brain & is more personal like:
socom, mgo, killzone, resistance.

These games require much strategy than just getting 3 kills for radar.
There's nothing wrong with cod. Its very user friendly but people have to understand that a group of really hardcore shooter fans like complicated team oriented genre advancing games. Is that really a problem to the guy who can't pull himself away from cod4? Cod4 is old. Really old & really simple. That's fun but some games should only be fun when you've mastered it. Some games should be a pain in the a$$.

Variety is the spice of life. Get some.

but i disagree with u cus i think that it was a smart design move from GG to not take away the attetion from the shooting cus overall its a shooting game and not a tactition or an engenior game.. but i wish they could've maken the badge system even deeper than it is( which is possible by an update) and i actually think they will do that, like making a DLC to give a new ability to ur bagde or new badges, and u can either buy it or earn it or something. what ya think about that haaan??

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I too was addicted to Killzone 2 like I have been COD4 for 2 years now. Thing is do I can relate to this guy except for wanting more turrets and the like. My biggest annoyance is not being able to invite my friends. It would be fine if we could still play against bots so you and your friends could just play against them, but they screwed us with that. So now I can't even play with my lower classed friends unless they find a game that has team unbalancing on, but by then its been over 15 mins or so just to find the same game, and thats using the phone to coordinate it all. Its lame.

what is the deal with ppl still throwing that 8 million claim when it was proven wrong?

but back on topic...

i love the multiplayer... its called a tactical shooter, not a run and gun...

these sites need to stop being crybabies... put the controls on alternative 2 and use your head when your playing

the only thing that i want changed is the assault soldiers with the rpg's it gets real old when i get killed by my own team mates when they try to shoot the enemy and it gets very old that ppl will commit suicide with their rpg just so they can kill me. ITS BULL SH!T!

it doesn't seem like anybody got the point.

he's not at all implying that you should be able to endlessly create turrets and spawn points, just that there may be a better way of managing it.
because as it stands if a nub is running around placing turrets, he can place 4 by himself that may or may not be in useful spots. and they actually prevent a skilled player from being able to place his own.
it shouldn't be like that. maybe there could be limits on how many players could use each badge on the same time or something.

my personal suggestion would be:
you should be able to set your preferred character type (weapons, badges, etc.) as well as faction outside of the game.
then when you search for matches. one's that have a slot open for your badges on your faction would show up first on the list. (or have an option to only show those games.)

killzone's multiplayer is fun as hell

I AGREE WITH YOU GUYS SOCOM HAS BEEN WORKING VERY SMOOTH NOW

As it is, the only way you can communicate with players in other squads is by being in proximity with them or in the 'pre match' screen.

I would add in a feature so the squad leaders can communicate with the other squad leaders at all times, similar to the way squads can communicate with each other at all times.

This would allow those who want to organize and achieve better balance of their team's classes for the most effective strategy.

free3sixty shush sales mean nothing typical xbum bumming off sales go play kz2 oh wait its not on your console

unlucky

the ps3 is bound to be in the place it is because of its price dont think your xbox is doing so well when nintendo completely sh!ts on it in sales people buy the console they can afford its just most people can afford a wii and a xbox because they are under 200 not everyone has $300+ for a console

plus where are you getting these figures from pal if you dont have no source to back it all up espec about figures your talking complete BS your a waste of space mate go and turn your radiator on and play your multi plats

no backup on figures = FAIL

everyone knows that mate lmao owned

socom is such a serious game.
Apply real life tactics & it looks really good.
You can be stylistic & play like a ninja or run & gun like Rambo.

Oh, btw if you dont like where a team member placed a turret in killzone 2 then blow it up!
its not wrong & its not wrong to set up your own match.

Doesn't have solid enough controls for multi player.

Eh, his point doesn't really matter on N4G because the majority of people that post here refuse to even contemplate the fact that he MIGHT have a valid complaint or two.

Was a cloaked Spawn killer
And all he had was his pistiol(you get infinate ammo with your pistol )
everytime i spawned and ran down the steps that was it dead
spoilt that particular game
so they need to take the infinate ammo away from the pistol

I just wish that they would change the squad function. Make it expandable up to 8 or 12. And allow people not in a squad to talk to everyone on the team.

Personally I think this guy is just blowing alot of hot air. I have not been seeing that many engineers and tacticians online and I have been playing about 5-6 matches online each day sense the games release.

The badge system works great and one thing you need to keep in mind is that the recent patch was more about tweaking the controls then anything else. So we will not see true tweaks and what not to the balancing and badge system for a few more weeks or months at the least.

My only real complaint so far about the multi player is that it takes a bit to long to unlock everything and for the casual player that may be a problem. But otherwise the game is incredibly fun and intense online. Who cares if it caters to much to clans. Considering how easy it is to make a clan in the game I would really not complain about that.

Killzone 2 is teh bestest game ever! There should be laws against criticizing it. Halo 3 and Gears 2 are broken because they got the controls right from the getgo. Who needs that anyways when you have graphics? Killzone 2 will sell more than Gears 2 day 1 and be a system seller just like Resistance 2 and LBP.

People who have problem with KZ2 and complain about it are the ones who $cuk at online matchs. They don't wanna look like fool so they blame the game and the developer.

Mmmm, many jealous xbots crying again because of KZ2. Go on, I love your tears :)

I would feel frustrated too if I couldn't play the best online FPS ever, KZ2.

But, but, but, Halo Wars :'(

My team meets on and plays together. IT'S AWESOME!! Nothing new, but when you are playing with people who care more about winning the objectives than getting the most kills, it's by far the most addicting multiplayer ever. PERIOD. Even when you are playing with not so intelligent players it's still fun. No one will tell me otherwise.

The problem with this article is that the authors presents his OPINIONS as facts. If you didn't like certain aspects of the multiplayer in killzone2, then that's YOUR OPINION because obviously the majority of people (including me) don't have any issues with it.

You're obviously free to express your opinion but when you use the title "Killzone 2 multiplayer has a bad aftertaste" then you're making it seem like your opinions are facts.

Just because I didn't like Halo3 doesn't mean halo3 sucks because obviously a lot of people loved it. same applies to killzone2. you may not have enjoyed certain aspects of it but I guess you can't please everyone. While you can bi**h about it all you want, we'll be playing and loving the sh** out of it for many months to come.

This is news?

I just want BIGGER MAPS, more of them and vehicles.

This article...

Is very good.

It echoes my thoughts, I'm playing Kz2 MP less and less.

But I'm doing the campaign on Elite.

so i was playing gears the other day and

I had 23 days + on cod 4 and almost 3 days on cod 5 ( brother took cod5 away to buy his own copy of KZ2) and now I'm left with Killzone 2, and killzone 2 only. im currently standing at rank 800 or so with 60+ hours of gameplay. and i'm bored. i've unlocked every challenge, and it's hard to recruit players (that are good, nevermind find good players) to my clan. I've run out of things to do... i've unlocked everything, all that's left is the single player trophies. the air drones are useless, good luck getting 5 kills with them in a normal game that isn't an hour long.
the games also aren't customizeable enough. the minimum amount of weaponry available is sta pistol + grenade. = Melee badge was a B to get. 4 players in a squad is stupid, and also not being able to talk to your whole team. oh.. and lack of party system.. wow. so far i've only been in a 1 on 1 tournament but it was very refined. which is a plus. atleast the clan system is half decent. oh new thought came to mind: if you want to challenge a clan, you have to KNOW the clans name BEFOREHAND, am i right? stupid, should be able to challenge clans based on ur rank and such...

oh and i hate ppl who cry about rockets... espesh if they r using sg,s cuz rockets, believe it or not, take MORE skill to use then sgs, we have to reload, we have 3 shots, it takes time for the rocket to hit the target, and yeah. wow.

Main Complaint:

More Unlockables/ accomplishments or SOMETHING to do.. atleast cod4 had prestige.. which was dumb.. but was improved with Class unlocks in cod5.. i hope cod6 improves from there too.. like New guns for higher prestiges or sommin.

2cents

edit: oh yeah, and if ur team sucks.. then ur gonna suck.. except when i have to assassinate the other team and just use boost and blow 'em up. :D

Cant be as bad as the game which shall remain nameless.

I'll admit that I agree with some of the guy's complaints (i.e., objectives being swarmed by idiotic players), but his overall points are confusing and contradictory: He complains about needless "chaos", but blasts Guerilla Games for making MP unforgiving to "uncoordinated people" which was made to make things more orderly.

Truth of the matter is this: No matter how well a MP game was designed at the beginning to eliminate unwanted chaos as the author puts it, as long as you're surrounded by selfish and idiotic players, there would be always be chaos.

This game is over hype, good graphics but game play sucks!

I am the complete opposite of the author of this article.

It took me a while to get into the MP, just like any new MP game that comes out.

Now I am thoroughly addicted, the war zones feel like ravaging war zones and not sterile environments, and I love the leveling up and the new abilities...

Its up to the players to work together and make sure at that there is at least a medic around or so forth and so on...thats not the game's fault.

I think it will balance out with time since everyone at first just wants to unlock all the leveling up parts so they can experience all the different modes, who doesnt after all? Thats part of the enjoyment...

I love this game!

It can be a bit difficult to rack up 5 bot kills, especially with an air bot. The gunfire tends to be weaker than a rifle, which in my opinion makes no sense. A bot should be at LEAST 15% deadlier than regular gunfire. I say keep them at the same ARMOR strength, but make their rounds hurt more.

Bots should be slightly feared in this game, but instead they sit there as assist killers or distraction targets while you try to shoot the guy trying to shoot your bot.

The key with bot kills is to stay somewhere close to it and use the bot as a shooting buddy. The only problem is, since your gun seems to be a bit more powerful than your bot, you steal too many kills from it making your ribbons even harder to collect.

I have found myself trying to half-kill people on purpose and then HOPING the bot will finish the job. This can get you killed too many times though... the bots weapons are too weak, the only time I was able to achieve 5 kills in a round was have two VERY well placed bots(elevated crossfire pattern, same area, one high & one low) while assist killing with them. I still have a few ribbons to go before I earn my medal.

"even after release fanboy articles leave bad taste"

STFU killzone 2's multiplayer is the cats pajamas/ the bees knees

looks like someone is getting killzowned in MP...

effing scrub can't aim... aww cry now
i love how people cry on the internet when their mommy can't fix the problem...

"Surprisingly, I've found myself enjoying the multiplayer side of Killzone 2 less and less the more I play it. My gameplay habits have changed a bit recently, and I've been playing almost nothing but Killzone 2 since the game launched."

What's up with this guy? Wanting hits? You got it, I guess...

FANBOYS!!!!!!!

ASSSSEEEEEEMMMMMBBBBBLLLLLLEE EEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm giving KILLZONE 2 a break for awhile.

There is too much spam. Not enough tactics atm.

Played a few games earlier this evening, and as much as i enjoy it. Everything is too close, combat wise, to squashed if you will.

I know, you can play with less people, and you do get a better game for it.

But i do agree with some of the comments.

Nades - way to much spam on spawn points.

I think after you die, you get back into the game to quickly.

Should be 15seconds wait. That way, the game moves forward and not so many people, spamming.

Also need some bigger maps(open area's)

ALot of them i like, but i would really love to see some tank action, and other types of gameplay. I'm sure the game could handle it, considering tanks are in SP.

FREE DLC - MAPPACK please.

What a WHINEY little baby! You consider balanced playing and skilled organization a huge flaw?!?! Listen, if you can't manage to organize a group of people and actually put some skill into something, don't f*cking b*tch about it to us. If you don't have the skills, go play a game that doesn't require any. I WELCOMED the challenge of the final boss in the campaign. How was it not strategic? You have a guy who has a CLEAR advantage over you, so how do you beat him? Maybe come up with a strategy that can beat him? Listen, I rarely play FPS's because I find most of them mildly boring, so maybe I'm not spoiled by some of these other FPS's out there that make it easy for everyone, but I haven YET to have an issue with this game. I agree, a party system would be nice. I suppose the leveling up system takes a few minutes to figure out. I really only have COD4 to base off of, but I actually like my games to be different from each other, so the fact that it wasn't like (insert a game to compare it to) is not a problem for me. I'm done. People can be such whiners...no wonder there aren't more outstanding games...

Bad aftertaste...? Oh, you mean the blood from getting my face getting rocked off...?

"seemingly impossible-to-complete objective"

I get the objectives ALL THE TIME! Yes, they're challenging, but they're FUN. This guy must be really terrible at this game. I've been levelling up daily since I started playing multiplayer on this game, and this is the only game I've spent any considerable amount of time online with.

Granted, I never played it before the patch was released, I got the game a couple weeks late, but I'm having a blast and haven't had any real problems with it.

Killzone 2 is amazing, I love this game.

I have gotten tired of Killzone 2's multiplayer a lot earlier than I thought I would.

When this game first launched I invsioned me playing KZ2 for months, if not years. Unfortunately, I don't see that happening now, but I really can't pinpoint the exact reason.

I guess the best way to sum it up is that when you get beyond the fancy paint there lies a game I have been playing for years now, but with frustrating controls.

A well designed game from a control standpoint should feel natural, and not get in the way of the actual game. Killzone 2's controls are so intrusive you can't help but notice them, and that is not a good thing.

With that said, I will be holding on to my copy for a while, because I still believe Guerilla Games is going to wise up and fix the controls. If not then I will spend my time with other shooters like COD MW 2 when it comes out. Guerilla please don't force me into that position. PLEASE

I dont know what this guy is talking about. KZ2 MP has got me HOOKED.

it would be doing better but nooo evreyone wants to come up with there own whole new sceme of things its your own fault

as evidenced by the game's frustrating final boss, who is neither slow nor tactical)"

Man, grow a pair of balls. Guys like this really annoy me. They pretend to be hardcore gamers but when a game is actually challenging, you shout out that it should be easy. Gimme a break here...*I* beat the final boss on Elite.
Theres nothing wrong with the controls, just something wrong with minds of people expecting a casual game.

I meant, i agreed with some of the comments here. Not the article.

Best online multiplayer game I have ever played. Simple as that. And, I know it will just get better and better with tweaks and DLC

I love the MP.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.