Its the basic evolution of technology, PCs now come equipped with Blu-Ray drives, you WILL see PC games come out on Blu-Ray, because its practical and has much bigger storage, mark my words.

2-3 years and the first Blu-Ray game for PC will come out, that's speculation and I really think this will happen.

Is it a bad thing? Hell no. Since when has more generally capacity been a bad thing? Cassette, cartridge, floppy disc, CD and DVD, Blu-Ray next.
If you don't have bigger capacity, you just don't have bigger games.

Your arguement is just as 'void' as mine of speculation and yes, developers are in a hurry to create bigger and better games, if not, well, we'd still be playing games on 10 floppy discs or over like Simon the Sorceror on Amiga. Capacity doesn't get bigger, games don't get bigger, games don't move on.

It may not effect the PC as fast, but developers and publishers sure as hell aren't going to waste all the millions of people with new PCs and Blu-Ray drives installed, because Blu-Ray just became the next step from DVD and that is a fact, no matter which way you put it.

Yes, I realise PC games have installations, but again. I remember Unreal being on PC-DVD and about 5 years down the line UT2K4 was suddenly on DVD, so DVD wasn't all that bad a step or a waste was it?

EDIT: Blu-Ray will come down in price, just as DVD did. Again, somewhat void argument. DVD was more expensive than CD in the past. Note, PAST, Blu-Ray has officially only existed for about 3 years as a major format and under one as a dominant format. Although, because of one disc, the packaging will be cheaper and that was the main reason for DVD format being used in PC games.

EDIT 2: You also forget that Blu-Ray will have more chance stopping piracy due to being to expensive to copy and with the current piracy rate on PC publishers would more than make up the amount of money to publish games on Blu-Ray because basically, no-one can afford to pirate them yet. Now thats something publishers may risk. Cost over piracy, I have a funny feeling they may choose 'cost'.

Why people underestimate Blu-Ray I don't know. More space, better quality, one disc, easier to clean, doesn't stratch as easily and less chance of piracy, seriously for developers and publishers that really can't be a thing they want to avoid and a haven for some.

EDIT 3: Yeah, me too. Nice convo. But 2-4 years, I predict a PC game will come out on Blu-Ray even if it doesn't max out the disc.

While I have relatively enjoyed our bickering, I must attend to my life.

So my closing points:
The main thing we disagree on is the progression of technological implementation, I for one think it will be a steady change following the 15 to 20 year life cycle of previous technologies, while you think it will progress at a slightly elevated rate because of public interest.

In reality this is the sort of thing annalists spend the entire year arguing over, and neither one is usually right because, as you said before, its all speculation.

So while I must depart, you have given me hope that N4G may actually have intelligent life living on it.

Edit1:(grumble grumble) make me post one more thing before going out.
Yes the price of blue-ray will inevitably go down, just like any other new technology. Unfortunately I don't see it becoming the dominant platform for quite a few more years.

On the subject of piracy, I dont think price is going to save it, obscurity maybe, but price, no. This is because at the end of the day $15 is less then $60, and as long as it can be pirated for less then it can be bought, piracy wont be stopped.

In closing (again) I have no reason to think Blue-Ray is "bad", just that its not entirely necessary for the current console generation.

I remember when I got my first CD-R drive back in 1998. It was about as expensive (approximately 35 dollars for a 5-pack of CD-R's) to buy writable media. Then I got my first DVD-R drive back in 2002. The discs were about as expensive. The price of BD-R media will go down, just like the price of CD-R's and DVD-R's.

the PC doesnt need a Blu-ray player for now. PC games install on the HDD. it handles data differently than a console.

That's not true.. a Xbox 360 handles data the exact same way as a PC now. Except with the option to read the data from the disc as well.

lol ok hows Hour of Victory's replay value comming, what awesome game do you have thats just so amazing its got all that replay value you speak of, tell me i had an xbox and i dont know 1 sorry, Xbox is literally the worst console to hit the market ever i swear. waste of money i cant believe i did, the only reason i bought an xbox was becasue the PS3 wasnt out yet.lol all you have is halo, anddont speak of gears 2 because ive played that game and thats some seriously over hyped crap, you all say Killzone 2 is too over hyped, atleast they kept their promise on visually looking like the 05 trailor, but what was gears 2, everything in it was the same, with a few added features, WOW what an EPIC game it has horde mode thats it, your saying if no games come out for xbox this year your gonna keep playing Horde mode the rest of the year, thats just sad, and to say

"But We are not fickle like you people, who need a new favorite exclusive title every few weeks."

- what does that even mean, is that supposed to be an insult because all these exclusives that are releasing one after the other is amazing and top quality. And also isnt what Sony doing right now what Microcrap promised to you all, tons of exclusive games and content only done on the 360 and Sh1t like that. lol give me a break.
Go back to playing Hour of Victory, Co<k Gobbler!!!

Microsoft announced that the Xbox 360 has reached a total of 29.01 million.

16.58 million in the US alone.

oh really? you really want to mention a sh*tty exclusive that had a 2 dollar pruduction budget? then How is Haze and Lair treating you? See what i did there? Swear to god this whole site needs to get back in touch with reality