opinion.

Nintendo has NOTHING on Sony!!

In my opinion...

Nintendo WAS great, but this generation I haven't seen anything really great from them that suits MY tastes.

Sony IS great and continues to give me games that suit MY taste.

I enjoy having both, and would not argue or choose between them. I couldn't be a gamer without having God of War sitting next to Twilight Princess I feel.

I'd say Sony met Nintendo last generation with the PS2 and has exceeded them in both quality and innovation, and doing so without a mascot in the vain of Master Chief to Microsoft or Mario/Link/Samus/etc. for Nintendo. Nintendo has stayed rather conservative with their main franchises, never straying from the same formula, plots, gameplay (solid it may be), and slapping their mascots on any basic game, such as a rather average arcade sports title and expecting it to sell, which it does to people who ignore the fact they're playing the same experience time and time again. Sony, on the other hand, takes chances, creating new and exciting IPs as we've seen with LittleBigPlanet, the Team ICO titles, one of my favourites God of War, and encouraging smaller, independant titles like Flower. Sony has helped create rather massive failures, but so has Nintendo, and while I respect Nintendo for the fond memories I've had playing their games, I applaud Sony for risking loss for the sake of pushing the industry forward

In my opinion...Super Mario Galaxy was...fun...but when aren't the Mario games fun? all 30 of them. The new zelda was pretty much Ocarina of time with better visuals and a little bigger world to play in. (the Game would of been better if they had released it a year earlier on the GC as a grand send off...not as a Wii lauch. Nintendo kind of screwed it's fans for no reason but to help the launch of the Wii, even to the point of releasing the GC version later...really?) Super smash brothers brawl was so disappointing it wasn't even remotely funny for me. It was at that point I stopped buying and even paying attention to wii games. SONY, MICROSOFT. Learn from Nintendo, apparently applying SLIGHTLY better visuals with a few more characters gets you a game the world goes crazy over. Blah, I'm sorry I'm ragging on Nintendo so bad, but honestly. In the past you could compare the two...now, until Nintendo gets tired of raking in the easy cash from the idiots who keep buying there games...they are not going to make anything worth buying for ME...and any game player I know haha.

You're out of your mind if you think Sony has surpassed Nintendos first party.Again,they aren't surpassing them,they're MATCHING them.

"Sony Isn't surpassing Nintendo is game development. What planet are these people from. Sony's first party is getting stronger out of neccesity to stay competitive"

Exactly.

Not worried in the least bit about this. Sony has first party devs in the bag. Devs are creating the most innovative games of all the platforms and thats what I want. Unique games inspire and that spawns further creativity.

but you got to look at nintendo as you look at disneyland.disneyland is fun for the whole family.but the place doesn't stray too far from the core things you can do there.still fun in some areas.but stagnent and stale in other areas.

one poster above hit the nail on the head.nintendo gives you the same thing you played but repackages it where you think it's all new.takes their systems

gameboy-recognize those graphics and games?it's basically the same things you played on the nes repackaged.

GBA-recongize those graphics and games?it's basically the same things you played on the snes repackaged.

NDS-recognize those graphics and games?it's basically the same things you played on the nintendo 64 repackaged.

wii-recognized those graphics and games?it's basically the same things you played on the nintendo gamecube repackaged.

the games and the systems nintendo releases? you played it before.but nintendo either shrinks the console or changes the way you play with the same product.still fun,but how about a mario jr game?mario gets married to princess peach and they have a son.luigi has a son and mario jr and his cousin continue the adventures.but nope.nintendo gives you the same title and same characters.

sony on the other hand is not trying to stay conpetitive.they have passed nintendo in many areas.

when you think of artistic games,are developers looking to nintendo?nope.they look at sony's exclusives and ask if games are art like SOTC or ICO.flow or flower.nintendo isn't even getting considered.

when you think of graphics,are developers looking to nintendo?nope.they look at sony's games like uncharted or killzone2.ratchet or LBP.nintendo isn't even getting considered.

when you think of technology.does the industry look to nintendo?nope.they look to sony as the system,the game engines and the features far surpass nintendo.not a thought has gone to what nintendo is doing.even with the wiimote,is there truely a game on Wii that has blown your mind with that controller?

i can play games on ps3 like high velocity or motorstorm,heavenly sword or flower and have just as much fun.but sony passed that even with the ps2's eyetoy that has sold over 15 million.can you say"no hands ma?!"and the pseye is going to go beyond even eyetoy.did anyone see the eyepet thing from last year?

sony has past nintendo long ago.nintendo is still great at innovation and games.but sony is just better because they spent the money on R&D to get where they are now.while nintendo is just selling you a repacked gamecube and making crazy profits on women and grandparents but not spending any money on making revolutionary wiimote games.how many new ports of Gamecube games can gamer's stand?

apocalypse.........

To all HD console loyalists, you've get a little 1080p and you lose your minds.
To even say such a thing is to question very existence for being a modern gamer.

Keep telling yourselves these lies, if it helps you get to sleep at night.

Fanboys these days...Now I've heard everything.

Get N or get out cuz' U R N O T (red)E...like spaghetti w/o the sauce.

I am neither hardcore or casual, I am a gamer and I own a Wii.

Droids will do anything for attention.Guess what you got my attention and you will regret ever doing so.
I could go for days about the sheer lack of innovation of Sony's titles going back to the SNES days but I shall not.I will focus on the now.There is no reasoning with fanboys of the PS3 calibur because logic doesn't apply to them.

PS3 and any console under the "Plaguestation" brand has always been the new shiny pretty empty.

They have no answer for Mario.
They have no answer for Zelda.
or Metroid, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Smash Bros, Donkey Kong, Excite series, Waverace, Mario Kart, Pilotwings, StarFox, Punch Out or any of the other countless 1st party titles you come to expect from Nintendo throughout multiple generations of consoles.

Um, no one is going to beat Nintendo. Sony has been lacking if anything. Sure they've done somethings (Killzone2/Little Big Planet/MGS4), however, they're not matching the firepower of the Wii atm, and I'm sorry, a few B+ to A- games are not going to make Sony catch up to Nintendo who's winning the casual market atm.

I stated my opinion the same way the blogger stated his. he didn't say "Why I think Sony is blah blah" So I didn't feel the need to state that in my post. Your opinion is certainly in the minority as Nintendo's franchises are Industry staples, sony's...not so much.

Nintendo is a different type of 'first-party'. Most Nintendo games come straight from Nintendo...they have their own DNA (see "Shigeru Miyamoto"). Sony has always had what are really 'second party' studios; there is no Sony DNA to speak of.

Nintendo is Mario. Donkey Kong. Link. Even Pokemon. Those guys are like their own Disney; there is no company in gaming like them.

If you want to compare them as publishers, you can go ahead. In terms of sales, Nintendo is doing very well right now. Mario Kart Wii is still routinely a top 5 seller. I think that speaks for itself. Even critically; Super Mario Galaxy is one of the most critically acclaimed games this generation, and of the best-selling.

Innovation...I dont think thats necessary, do you?

Make no mistake; Nintendo is THE game company if there is one. They are back on top in a big way.

Right now Sony has surpassed Nintendo with the quality of there games..

other than Brawl , Galaxy , MP3 and Zelda what else have they really done..?

This has been the case for a number of years now. Nintendo with the N64 released two quality Zelda games and one decent Mario game. When it came to releasing the likes of Animal Crossing, Mother 3, Mario 64 (2), they bottled it and faultered. Nintendo have become cautious, too cautious. When the N64 was going strong and Pokemon was released to critical aclaim and mass appeal did Nintendo go for the kill with a fully 3D realistaion of the the game? No. Nintendo had the money the resources and the skills to make a game on a par with OOT and M64 but no they sat on their hands and released clone after clone after clone of the same game, to this day it has to be mentioned. If anyone jumps in to say that it wasn't a realistic possibility or that Nintendo never had the idea or even that it wasn't really a Nintendo game then just look at this http://www.youtube.com/watc...
Myamoto says that many of the ideas for Mario 64 (2) were incorporated into Mario galaxy. Mario Sunshine was a fudge, a compromise. It was a game from the off designed to be fast out the door and on store shelves. Wind Waker suffered from the same thing, a game that could genuinely have been amongst one the best ever released was nerfed to ensure a quick release. Here the rot had truly set in. The work done on Animal Crossing was resurrected for the GC with only a slight graphical improvement and almost no gameplay difference at all. Worst of all the game offered no online functionality, strange for a game that was prefect for it on a console capable of it. So here we see that Nintendo had strayed from making solid core gamer games and instead refocussed it's efforts to be inclusive of everyone with the obvious drawback of a reduction in quality on it's best games. That it happened on the gamecube is a travesty as it happens to be the best made console ever, solid reliable and powerful whilst also being cheap to produce. When compared with the Wii it's clear to see where Nintendo have failed.

Nintendo with the NES and the SNES were going by the beat if their own drum and were better than everyone else out there. Since the N64 onwards Nintendo have been second guessing their customers, not investing in their best games sufficiently and releasing games of poor quality. They have failed to implement online functionality with their games two consoles running and have cancelled games that were in the pipeline for reasons of cost or to release them on their next console rather than fight whichever currnet console generation they were in at the time.

I can list them if you wish.

Pokeomon Snap
Mario Party
Diddy Kong Racing
Mario Kart Double Dash
Luigi's Mansion
Super Mario Strikers
Pokemon Colusseum
Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix
StarFox Assault
Pokemon XD
Pokemon Channel
Nintendogs
Wii Fit
Mario Super Sluggers
Links Crossbow Training
Pokemon Battle Revolution
Pokemon Ranch
Donkey Kong Barrel Blast

Whoa! Those walls of text are monumental, guys. Great opinions!

Bubbles down the line!
I'm going to bed.

while nintendo made some of the greatest that was 20 years ago, there prob is they keep relying on the same characters mario link and samus to make their games, wish they wudnt keep using them its boring aleady. sony on other hand keeps bringing us new fresh characters while still bringin bak old ones, motorstorm, resistance, little big planet, uncharted, while still keepin fav's like ratchet and god of war.

if nintendo doesnt make anything new then they may be surpassed soon

Here is some info:

Nintendo
First-party

A first party developer is a subsidiary of Nintendo and one in which Nintendo has a controlling interest in (51% or more ownership).

* Brownie Brown — Software developer consisting of former members of Squaresoft.
* Intelligent Systems — Established in 1986 by former members of Nintendo Research & Development 1
* Monolith Soft — Founded in 1999 by a former member of Square Co., Nintendo bought a majority stake on April 27, 2007 from Namco Bandai.
* Nintendo Entertainment Analysis and Development (Originally "Nintendo Research & Development 4") — Largest division at Nintendo. Managed by Shigeru Miyamoto. Responsible for the Mario, Star Fox, Zelda, Animal Crossing, Wii Series, and other franchises.
* Nintendo Software Technology Corporation — Redmond-based studio responsible for Metroid Prime Hunters, among others.
* Nintendo Software Planning and Development — Development division inside Nintendo.
* Project Sora — A Tokyo studio founded in 2009 by Nintendo and Kirby/Super Smash Brothers creator Masahiro Sakurai. The studio is 72% owned by Nintendo and 28% owned by Sakurai's company Sora, Ltd.
* Retro Studios — Austin-based studio fully owned by Nintendo. Developer of the Metroid Prime games excluding Hunters and Pinball.

Defunct first-party

* Nintendo Research & Development 1
* Nintendo Research & Development 2
* Nintendo Integrated Research and Development (Originally "Nintendo Research & Development 3

Sony
First-party
On September 14, 2005, SCE formed Sony Computer Entertainment Worldwide Studios (SCE WWS)

Japan

* Japan Studio – Ape Escape, Siren, LocoRoco
* Team ICO – Shadow of the Colossus, ICO
* Polyphony Digital – Gran Turismo

North America

* Santa Monica Studio – God of War
* San Diego Studio – NBA, MLB: The Show
* Sony Bend – Syphon Filter
* Sony Online Entertainment LLC. – EverQuest
* Incognito Entertainment – Warhawk, Twisted Metal
* Naughty Dog – Jak & Daxter, Uncharted
* Zipper Interactive – SOCOM: U.S. Navy SEALs

Europe

* London Studio – SingStar, Eyetoy, PlayStation Home
* Studio Cambridge – MediEvil, PlayTV
* Studio Liverpool – Wipeout, F1
* Guerrilla Games – Killzone
* Evolution Studios – MotorStorm, World Rally Championship
* Bigbig Studios – Pursuit Force, MotorStorm: Arctic Edge

After reviewing all the 1st party I am trying to understand how the writer can state Why Sony is Surpassing Nintendo in Game Development?

Only real point that Sony 1UP Nintendo will be the online play, but graphics doesn't count since both system choose to go separate direction this gen.

Funny the only real new gen game we have from Nintendo ( and everyone was blown away) Mario galaxy, and yet were still waiting for the zelda that actually uses wii hardware like SMG.

*Opinion*

Sony may have a come a long way in buying more companies to call it their own and that's great but the minds at the Nintendo offices are like the guys that made gaming fun for us when we were growing up ( ex- real square people for example). The Nintendo products are like magic, they are made to stand the test of time, maybe not ground breaking but they generally don't have voices and appeal to the a general audience worldwide.

After how many decades are we still rescuing that same dam princess LOL. I mean those IPs have grown so much in the past decades and the user base keeps on growing older and moving on to an older mature system, but the fundamental of what the Nintendo brand symbolize is beyond that of a mere 1st party.

We've grown to love and move on, some of us are still stuck with them but the gaming world have evolved.I have grown up, I have a big job, little time to play, you know I'm no bummy teen that I used to be,where I had no responsibilities and I can stay home a play all day in the summer. So I find it fitting that they are trying new ways to get new players in the fold. Try and imagine if they didn't and made an HD gaming console like MS and Sony...

I think Unless Shiggy retires or goes to that mushroom kingdom in the sky, it'll be hard to over throw their 1st party might.

... Sony has been fired up since Nintendo fell through with the original Playstation. Everything about Sony has seemed to change, not just around this fact, but in general. It's their 'firepower' to produce products that last a long time.

Funny, PS3 wouldn't exist without the back-stabbing of Nintendo as a company... Cartridges or CDs? or both? Sony entered to prove their new under-appreciated gaming dept... and look where we are now.

There's no comparison in terms of functionally, features, and graphics!

Your list of first party developers convince me that My previous posts were correct. As good as those Nintendo studiosare they have all failed to create genuinely brilliant games within the last few years bar Mario Galaxy. The day I completed Shadow of the Collussus was the day that 3D Zelda games were lost to me forever and years later Nintendo have done absolutely nothing to sway my opinion in fact the twilight princess reinforced it. Myamoto himself admitted that all the ideas Nintendo had for the Wii had been revealed leaving me open mouthed and dissapointed.

Hands down SONY sucks compared to nintendo. I really don't see the top publishers are developers wanting to match SONY's first party or publishing.

Last time I looked they where like 4 on the list and dead last as a money maker.

SONY has fail to make one single must own game this gen or even a I got to try that game out. They have some good people working on their stuff also!