It really doesn't feel any different.

<---see how in the gamerzone 5 ppl so far did notice a difference in the update wile some may have not, that just goes to show you who the more observant group of ppl are ; )

some people even agree with me when i say i liked it the way it was b4 the update. everyone is entitled to their own opinion and if it is an opinion....you cant be wrong.

i dont feel any difference at all. i dont know what kind of supernatural controll feelings u guys have, but this is absurd. the game is ultra fun as it is. i really cant imagine that the game has changed that much that someone has to write this kind of nonsence.

dont know about the min i grab the control i feel something was wrong i was kinda light i got my a$$ kick for a while b4 i could readjust

I hope they didn't take the realism out the shaky controls the realism and the *bullet travel time to target* either.

There were major flaws that can be misunderstood with the shaky feel and the bullet travel distance mechanics.

The real isssue is the bad guys some times don't get hit with bullets no matter how much you aim ahead while they're moving. and some times you shoot bad guy and nothing will happen then all of a sudden they die like the way they were suppose to seconds latter.

The Mech level was the worst although that level and vehicle was almost my favorite in any game you could lock on and the bullets and rockets would go right over the bad guys or the rockets would explode 100 feet above and behind the bad guys even though the mech was looked on.

You try to kill HG with rockets with the mech by aiming at the ground hoping to get then with the blast slash and the rocket simply goes past them half the time by hundreds of feet some times no matter what.

I don't know what you guys are talking about. The game feels the exact same way and it also plays the same. It is just a little tighter and the weighty feel is still there it just still has the unique feel everyone loves. The only reason why you guys say that there is more run and gun is because people are now using the Assault Rifle because the noobs can't use Auto Aim with the Shotgun anymore.

FUK, now it feels floaty and lighter ALA COD4, what K2 had going on before the patch was unique, people just needed to f'en adjust, it was perfect before....stupid noobs who complained. Now its like every other shooter.

what is it with GG and needing to care what fans think? Do what YOU want to do....and people were starting to like the original controls..

F YOU GG.

All they did was make the reaction time between when you press the shoot button and see it on the screen quicker so stfu please

After reading that a new patch was out that changed the controls, I played a level of Killzone 2 without internet plugged in so it didn't update to remind myself how the controls are.

I then plugged internet in and restarted the game and of course it popped up with the update which I let install.

The controls have had a pretty major tweak (in singleplayer) in the acceleration when looking normally compared to ironsights. There is no longer the very gradual build up in acceleration which caused the feeling of it 'lagging', so it's easier to control the momentum when turning and track enemies when unscoped.

Similarly it feels more responsive when looking down the sights and has less 'twitchiness' when aiming this way.

These are the major changes, and i personally appreciate them. It doesn't feel like a twitch-shooter in the vein of Unreal that Guerilla were against so I don't think its compromised any of their design decisions. It simply feel more natural as an extension of the player interacting with the world and still has the pleasant weightiness that makes gunfights more visceral.

I reckon Guerilla have handled this issue very well and not too many people should be disappointed. Good work on listening to your audience Guerilla.

*SPOILER ALERT*

Now for your next update / DLC, PLEASE let us drive the jeep in the mech level if we want a challenge! Such a shame we couldn't get out of the mech and into it. =(

Before the Patch people complain, after the patch people complain, just play the damn game...what are you guys doing here complaining instead of playing and getting fragged by noobs....go play now...go...

posted up and why dis
are dissing a game before they have played it

Go Fu(k ya xbox 360 up the ass and call jack black cause he really enjoys a gang bang spec with xbox's

Killzone patch i really note no change
just better servers and the servers was good any ways

i cant wait for the home party launch
1 think killzone lacks
and match details
i am getting sick of going into unknown matches
im picking a server and i no nothing apart from the game modes

also they really need to get rid of them spawn smoke nades i think they are letting the online balance go abit there
they should just add like flags u should have to repair in limited areas half way on the maps
the squad spawning is ok

apart from that killzone is one of the best games online todate

there is no please in anyone
and i think its the xbox fanboy who are moaning

me i note no differences
still the best online game to other counter part consoles

I loved the controlls the way they was, it was better than anything els on the market, the controls was better than anything else.. comn lets start a patent so GG can put back the controlls the way they was.. and if someone else complain imma slep him in the mouth..

I swear I Hate Xbots and everything that has to do with them from this point, its only xbots who was complaining damn go and play Gears with the clonky controlles leave Killzone 2 alone for god sake..

My god, look at how it is:

-Comments on the Controller lag: "We need to get rid of it." or "It sucks." or "Take it away."

Guerrilla listened to you and now you say:

-"Now that it's away it's less realistic."

Hell, what do you want?^^

killzone 2 patch hurts realism=bullsh!t, if you want realism, the u.s military is going into afghanistan, get off of your azzes and enlist. killzone 2 had the laggyest controls ever. the deadzone was ridiculous, now with the patch, the game controls much better. i can't believe some of you actually liked the earlier controls, maybe some of you liked to gain kills on people who had issues with the controls.

the game has through enough already guys lets just enjoy for what it is its out for days now so the complaints should of stopped by now just play it and enjoy and no it doesn't play like cod controls

Those controls were phukked and too many fanboys were willing to put up with it. I'm glad they changed it. All this realistic crap, give it a rest. A video-game won't equal real life for a loooong time. Maybe never. When video-games try to be too realistic we get control issues such as these(KZ2 controls pre-patch). Do you know how many animations/calculations we would need in order to have a truly realistic experience from a video-game?...I tell you what, we're not going to see that kind of technical prowess on the consoles currently in production (PC included).Accept video-games for what they are: GAMES.

i love the new patch! i've been getting headshots every 2 or 3 kills!

Realism doesn't always equal fun and I learned that after playing Far Cry 2

there will always be someone keep on whining

thank you update!

its not a fps realistic simulator its a VIDEOGAME!

I can't se the different between past and now?
What are you talking about "PoSTedUP" You idiot

Not a fan of the new controls. Doesn't feel right for the game...

There is a really small diffirence in the controls , but it's allmost unnoticable.. the controls are just great.

YOU DID THIS!

its not all bad, it feels a little floaty still an amazing game but it did lose that learning curve that was unique to only killzone 2. I reeeeally wish so many people didn't b!tch and moan about the controls and just I don't know "adapt".

KZ2 feels so much better.

I rather die while shooting responsively ( controller wise)
Then to die while trying to aim underwater.
it feels better now, even if it is slightly change

i had to return the game back to blockbuster before i even heard about the patch. i hope the difference doesn't compromise the gameplay because i was owning at that game once i got used to it. i even got the top 1% citation for proof. i certainly dont want a noob friendly game, i want to play a game that actually takes practice and skill. along those notes, however, i had a hard time killing people with the pistol and the iron sights on some guns were a little funky. hopefully the update fixed it.

it seems like i can sprint forever... with all that gears on can they really run that fast... not that it should be changed!!

response time shouldn't have anything to do with weighty fills. imagine before turning ur head to the right u had to point in that direction first. its more real to me if you can do them both at the same time.

still having the wighty fill and having a quicker button response time it the goal here. i think gg did a good job.

Everyone seems to be throwing this term 'Realistic' around, it doesn't quite fit. These are weapons from Sci-Fi cultures; they have ray guns that heal mortal wounds for Pete's sake. There is little room for realism. In my travels I have had the opportunity to qualify with the M16A3 and M203, the M249, M60 and M2 (.50) machine guns. I've thrown rounds downrange with an M24 (but not very many.) Pistols from perhaps every caliber up to .44mag and I own a mighty fine rifle that sits in my closet waiting to defend home and hearth. Oh and let’s not forget all the paintball markers (guns) I've toyed with over the years.

Sorry if all that sounds like I'm beating my chest but I'm trying to make a point. With the exception of the small caliber pistols, every single weapon mentioned is significantly different from the others. There was a time when I could pivot on the balls of my feet, drop to a knee and punch a trio of holes in a man sized target at nearly 150 meters. Try that with a M249(SAW) actually I don't recommend you try that at all.

So 'null joystick zone correction' or not what we have here is not realistic BUT extraordinarily TACTICAL because of the map layouts and the environments. The game play could be slowed down a hair as I believe someone mentioned above, meaning intelligent movement because rushing will get you gakked, but I'm not going to complain, I'm sure there will be other patches.

A real sweet feature could have been to have the controls be sloppy as hell at first and gradually improve over x hours of game play to simulate 'FNG' jitters, not ranks actual hours played. Or simulate suppressive fire by having your aim go straight to hell based on how much incoming fire you’re taking. Ok now I'm drooling but any game companies looking for a consultant I work cheap! :P

Pardon the length and while you’re feeling generous the chest beating as well.

Thanks for reading,

Some people just need something to complain about and blow out of proporttion.

It's sad really.

This is the problem with so called "GAMERS", they b!tch and moan about wanting change and innovation, yet when games come out that are different than the last blockbuster they are used to, they asked for the next game be the same. Guerrilla Games should've left the controls as is. that is part of what makes Killzone 2, Killzone 2. These so-called gamers that b!tch about Killzone 2's controls are the same lame people that b!tched about Resistance's presentation and weapon system which is what gave resistance it's identity and Insomniac was foolish enough to listen which made Resistance 2 not worth the purchase(IMO). Developers should stick to their guns more, with things like presentation and controls they should stick with their ideas of what they had for the game. The only standard that I think should be made for controls is allow the user to custom map their button layout. Outside of that developers should be concerned with offering a unique experience that makes their game different, instead of patching it later to make it feel the same that last great thing.

Then go back and adjust your sensitivity to the one guerilla had earlier. I personally loved the old control system, it made kills worth it and now after the patch, the game still feels good, it's still KILLZONE 2. I still love this game. I would suggest for the people who are complaining about the new controls is to go back to COD4 or CODWAW or HALO 3...SOLVED.

The new patch barely did anything to the controls. I really felt little to no difference in the controls after the patch anyway.
Well now that the control issuse has been taken off the list, I think its time to start complaining about co-op and split screen to GG. If we complain enough, they will listen!

learning curve?what the hell are you guys talking about?
I put in the game picked alternate 2-cranked up the x-aXIS sensistivity and thoroughly enjoyed playing through the game and never once thought that the controls needed changed.
I guess i'm just better at games than some of the whiners out there.;)

When turning from a dead stop, which I think a lot of people were mistakingly calling "response lag". But honestly, it's a very small change. It still feels distinctly like a Killzone title, and all the other nuances are still there.

People should stop making such a big deal and simply pick the game up. It's awesome, and the multiplayer really does put Call of Duty 4 to shame. Having 32 players at once raises the fun factor a lot.

The patch barely even did a thing... and I bet if they didnt say anything about the patch... a very small minority would notice anything.....

The game still has its weight... it still feels heavy... it still has that feeling that you might be over aiming your analogs...

All it seems like it did was cut the deadzone down a tiny bit... not enough to alter the game... but enough to make a small difference.

And yeah for anyone thinking maybe it feels to responsive now... notch it down 1 or 2 sensitivities and it will prob feel exactly like it did.

What the hell is all the realism crap? Using a contrller is nothing like using a real gun as it is and unless youve used a gun similar to like they do in the game how can you say anything feels realistic? Also, what is realistic about basically being able to sprint just about non stop without getting tired? Yes there is a gauge but it fills up after like 2 seconds so you can practically run without getting tired, how the HELL is that realistic?
ANyway, considering the weapons basically dont exist, how can you say what is and what is not real anyway?

It was never realism in the first place. Get off it with these podcast and articles about immitating realism.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.