Nice, I'm going to be even better with this patch.....not that I had any problems with the previous controls.

Uh huh

well... I think those "improvements" are in peoples minds... as were the original "problems" !

I downloaded the patch, didn't feel any difference with the controls. They're still the same old controls that I've learnt to get comfortable with.

how is this a rumor when its a confirmed patch? wtf

Bubbles to everyone who gave their impressions.

WHERE IS THIS PATCH???? I went online and no download came up? Can any one explain this for me. Was it just released in Europe and not North America yet? Thanks.

Never Mind: "The patch will be going live in Europe first and the US later on today."
I see Thanks for the info guys/girls

If that is true that is some splendid support from GG. Wish all developers listened to their fanbase like they seem to do.

i don't really get it. the controls are just fine. you just need time to get used to it

just completed the game yesterday so I've had some time with the game but the patch has improved the overall feel for sure! single and online.

Just gave them a spin. MP, noticed no difference at all. SP any difference is minor, not instantly noticeable, maybe more inline with the MP controls now.

nothing has changed with the controls. they are great as they are. i dont even feel the difference from other games anymore. u get used to it pretty fast.

THANK YOU NOOBS FOR THIS....

No patch indication for me in the US?? Any ETA? Anyone else in the US see a patch?

I bet the patch was to stabilize multiplayer a bit more but they throw out that it patches the controls just to see how many people think they are now different.

It's like a placebo patch just to see how many people who hated the controls before like them now. They will think it's the patch rather than thinking that they've had more experience with the controls.

Cause the controls feel exactly the same.

I think that the controls are pretty good, not the best, but definitely not the worst. However when using the sniper I find it awkward to zoom in and out, because of button choices.

killzone.com has the listings of what it patches. i read it like a couple days ago. nothing about the controls(though they were looking into it) it fixes some multiplayer issues(i think one of them was people not getting a certain ribbon.)

they really need 2 remove that laggg. n give u real time play there is no lagg n reality.... give the user the ability 2 choose do no force game play mecs on them.. havent we learn from lair.... get ot right gg..

Is there full button mapping at least?

no new options/button mapping, controls are much better tho, got my boost badge yaaaay

The Killzone 2 controls are slightly controversial.

i could definitely feel a difference after the patch and the aiming is a bit better now, but still it would need some more work...

I didn't feel any difference. :D

This "improved" control tweak is nothing more than a placebo effect. GG actually does nothing but say that the controls are tweaked, and every gamer having issues goes; "I can feel it, the controls ARE better!". I personally can't really tell, I still suck at multiplayer.

What patch? I think you guys are full of crap. Ive been on killzone 2 all day and haven't seen any patch. Ive been constantly turning my ps3 on and off, starting the game up for the past hour. Nothing.

but what happens to the tactician?

i guess for a elimination mode of just 1 life to live you would have to make sure only certain classes get in.

Patch? What are you guys talking about?

I just logged in 5 minutes ago and was not prompted to dl a patch.

Region specific? Maybe?

On SP campaign: It feels like the deadzone & acceleration has been changed - The stick now feels more 'traditional' for want of a better word. I didn't have a problem with the rifle beforehand, but weilding the pistol was awkward. Now it's a lot easier.

Don't feel any difference to MP to be honest - Just as great as before!

they tweaked the controls right after you took your sugar pill. feel better now? we know you do, because you believe you do.

Controls are much better now I'm happy

..but i have the us-version and live in germany.

You know what would be funny? If GG later came out and said that the controls were not affected by the patch. All these noobs who complained about the controls then said it felt better would be owned! Placebo for the win!

sometimes, calling people noobs is arrogant. the deadzone in the responsiveness of the killzone2 button presses is very poor. psn-southpaw79, i love the game but i am not in denial of a real problem. most of my friends when back to codwaw. i am done with codwaw until codmw2. i don't want to play MGO, i want to play killzone 2 and not fight with the lack of ability to perform fine movements with the analog stick.

i think that China's economy has no where to go, but UP UP UP!

oh wait, Kz2 controls?
um. just adjust. or follow your heart. thats what i do.

The controls of the game are not to bad. I got the game a few days ago and overall I am fairly happy with it (graphics are gorgeous). I do wish though that they will allow the user to customize which button does what. Going through all the preset button configurations still does not give me enough options. I'll blame Call of Duty: World at War on that since I am so used to that configuration. I still wonder how much better I could play if I could use my 360 controller instead my Dualshock 3.

Also does the POV of this game feel a bit more closer then that of other shooters?

I wouldn't be surprised if Halo ODST and Call of Duty: MW 2 ended up being altered to emulate what Guerilla Games has done, which is simulating how human beings actually move when wearing armor and holding weapons.

If not, then we'll probably see critics complaining about the controls feeling "too floaty", "unrealistic", and "twitchy".

Meh, controls seem the same.

cmon i want to continue on my elite game with the new control tweaks

Never noticed any.

Placebo controls or not I want this patch as I need the boost ribbon.

COME ON GUYS RELEASE IT!!

Haven't downloaded it yet, but I must say the controls are fine. The only thing they need to add is the ability to control the sensitivity of the deadzone. Personally, I think it could be turned up a bit, it is a bit too responsive with minimal input. It's likely everyones problem and they just don't fully realize it. Just incorporate a slider to adjust deadzone sensitivity and everyone will be happy. Everyone has different preferences.

thank god for this patch, i almost stopped playing the game after the second level because of these slow (aiming) controls. Even with the sensitivity full there was no difference then when its empty. it felt as if i was playing on the computer and my graphics card cant run the game so it was lagging like sh1t. hopefully the patch fixed this. now to finish the campaign and start the online madness

I didn't notice a difference and I like the controls.

Maybe the power of the Cell can detect the noobs and apply the "improved" controls for them. :P

when i play online its better with the controls but the campaign the aiming barely moves. i found the online alot easier being that it takes two or three shots to kill someone while in the campaign it takes alot more. maybe the people online just suuck

They should just make a control alternative that says : CALL OF DUTY 4
since all these jockies are comparing the controllers to that game. So stupid. This game is perfect as it is....LOVE the controllers...its harder..makes it more challenging..

Yeah.. Not sure if i noticed any changes with the controls.. But I was fine with it before the patch. I did better after the patch.. but its probably placebo..

honestly u fools are always complaining everytime. it works even better now so please just be happy and get killowned!

The patch has made the game more realistic in ways because you can turn around faster and aim more accurate in my opinion. the crosshairs are now accurate like those in a videogame should be. I have fired a decent amount of guns in my life, no heavy weaponry of course, but I still felt like the original controls were not simulating real life very well either.

It's only the fanboys who never shoot real guns that want this weighty feeling to be somehow realistic. It was never that realistic because there was never a real ******* gun in your hand. And I was shooting worse than I do in reality, at least for pistols and such. The playstation forums are being spammed by total dooshbags hating the new controls hating the old ones and everything else. I would have just taken it any way but they chose to make the crosshairs more accurate and as such the game is a tad more precise, a tad more lean and I for one would not have it any other way.

This is how the game should be. You play as a marine that apparently is going to take down the emperor. I think you should be a darn good shot to do this. Controls are great!

thought the controls were perfect already...

sarcasm...

the controls was good the whole time. and even if there was a problem everybody has it when you are playing them and i will call you a noob because you are getting snapped by other people that know how to use the controls.

The one major thing the update changed control wise was the sluggish feeling of the m82 assault rifle in the single player campaign, that was literally my only problem with the controls and even that wasn't that bothersome. The control of the gun feels much tighter now, Thank you Guerilla Games ;) KILLZONE 2 FTW!!!!!!!!!!

I like the feel of the new aim movement. It just feels more responsive to me. Either way can we all just get back to playing!? I must now go back and finish the campaign before I play MP again. Btw I was pretty good with the old "lagging" controls but I like it better now. Now STFU and play!

Didn't get a patch that I know of.

The controls still lag its so bad when the bad guys move its like your bullets don't count(not talking bullet travel distance either)

Like in the Mech level you lock on the bad guys and the rocket goes tight through them or when you trying to get them with the rocket explosion when you aim right at their feet the rocket goes 10 feet above and 20 feet beyond no matter what you do and other times it works right.

The jerkiness(realsim) the devs tried to create is an different issue from the unplayable flaws of this game.

I beat the game more on luck than skill.

I don't know how this game scored so high with this major issue.

I think KZ2 is bottle necking PS3 that is why the PS3 can't keep consistant gameplay durring the mid sized to bigger battles.

Good lord how hard is it to make a game responsive man.

Is it me or does it seem you get headshots way too often especially when your not even aiming at there head lol the shotgun is still a problem i think cuz playing it earlier it seems thats what everyone is packing. The aiming is good if not better, i guess my only gripe still is the hit response and now it seems theres just way too many bots its ridiculous every corner i turned theres a bot staring me down with its barrel and giving me a headshot lol the recoil of the weapons could use some tweaking and the grenades could have a lil more wieght so you can throw them with distance and last just a second longer but then again now i think about it, dont change the grenades cuz at least that will stop grenade chucking from clear across the map lol

Kz2 plays like denied ops with a bad camera.

is that the changes are slight. While still not as responsive as most shooters it is improved. Now the clowns that had convinced themselves that crap controls were a feature are crying that its COD when it has barely changed.

It definitely did something... pre-patch I was barely decent... post-patch, I just ran through a slew of waaaaaaay positive k/d ratio

Ok i just played a couple of hours of singleplayer and 2-3 rounds of multiplayer and I can say this that the controls are much more responsive.

i hope this patch adds NAZI HELGHAST ZOMBIE mode . . . ..... split screen.

the controls are definitely more responsive but i do wish they gave us an option because i really got used to the original way it was and quite frankly i enjoyed it more...i really liked the "heavy" feel.. now with this patch i even turned down the sensitivity one notch from the regular default because it just didnt feel the same

the controls were completely fine. everyones so used to the perfect COD controls that it takes a while to pick these up, but once you do it feels much more realistic.

I never had a problem with the controls, you people wining about them need to learn to adapt and not be so stuck in your ways. KZ2 is just realistic, if you want something noddy like go and play COD or Halo.

HAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK YOU.

I can confirm that the controls were modified. The dead zone has been reduced significantly (by about 25%). They definitely made some tweaks to the mechanics, but I can't put my finger on it. It's unfortunate as I spent hours getting used to the controls before and now I have to "learn" it again.

I like that GG really listens to gamers and fixes the little things that people complain about, and making the game perfect.

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.