"Not that bad" = They're not the worst they could be, but they still suck.

call of duty 4 is more fast paced multiplayer then Kz2, so that means they need faster paced controls.
since kz2 is just a tad slower, they had to make there controls scheme fit the game, and that's what they did

Realism does not necessarily make a game better, or more fun.

I'm enjoying every facet of this game, and I certainly welcome having to learn a new control system once in a while personally. Makes you think a little bit more and stay on your toes. Definately gives Killzone it's own unique feel.

Its not the controls that are bad though. It is the aiming. It is delayed. I am used to it now, but it is still annoying.

call of duty 4 is more fast paced multiplayer then Kz2, so that means they need faster paced controls.
since kz2 is just a tad slower, they had to make there controls scheme fit the game, and that's what they did

I believe that Killzone 2 has better controls than CoD 4. That's just my opinion.

sounds like hiphopgamer # 2 lol

the team at GG released a content pack that made the controllers more twitchy/faster. However the only way I would like that was if it was a game/room specific option.
They could release the KZ2 - Twitch Pack which features online modes and levels tweaked for a faster/light control scheme , however would leave the original control scheme and modes in tact and entirely separate from the launch online modes.

Then the twitch shooters could have their fun and the rest of us could have ours and switch back and forth between the two depending on the mood of the players, while at the same time extending the replayability of the game.

correct me if im wrong, but timesplitters was the first to use both analog sticks, as seperate body parts, and it took the rest of the developers years, {i feel out of stubberness} not to take up these controls when clearly they where better controls

i feel that cod has shown the light to developers how controls should be done, {in a small way} but still better and out of stubberness kz2 had to be different

reminds me of an avatar in HOME with that hat on (jk) LOLZ. He does however bring up a point that people need to wrap their head around. KZ2 does not play nor control like COD and nor should it. It would've been a shame if Guerilla spent FOUR YEARS desinging a prettier version of COD.

If they had, the media and gamers alike would have ripped this game apart by snubbing it as nothing more than a COD clone, a point someone has already in this thread mentioned but its validity is worth mentioning twice because of how true it is.

Killzone2 feels/controls like Killzone2 and COD feels/controls like COD. IMO they both do what the Developers intended them to do extremely well. Hats offs to GG for sticking to their guns and giving KZ2 its own identity in terms of both looks and controls.

For those of you who are bothered to the point that its unplayable to you, fear not, COD5 is availible and Infinty Ward is cooking up a new Modern Warfare. So either learn KZ2 controls or either buy COD5 or wait for the new Modern Warfare.

Just stop your whining because its not the KZ2 controls that suck, its you that suck at the KZ2 controls.

-s2Dc Out

because of teh influence of others

great job to everyone that who argued thier point.
its been debated, the heads of Guerilla have confirmed & now its time to kill again.
every second wasting breath on this subject allows your enemy to live.

I'm just happy that being a killzone gamer ranks me higher than a cod player.
it is cool that every ps3 game has its own hardcore following.
looks like the ps3 camp has alot of in fighting this year. I mean is there anything else to talk about beside ps3?

Nope.

Ofcourse it isn't bad! It just that it's the only thing for the haters to rant about.

If my 5yrs old cousin can get the grip enjoying the game every second without a single complain why can't you is beyond my imagination.

I still get a chuckle at all the "realists" in here preaching about the delay like it's not there and trying to frame up CoD like it sucks.

"It's teh realism!!11111"

No it's not, it's teh silly delay that makes playing the game online annoying.

But hey! Feel free to keep knocking it and when the servers dwindle because everyone went back to CoD4/5 or Resistance2...don't sit there looking suprised.

Sure you will have your graphics wh*res and loyal KZ2 fans/fanbois still playing but the other 80% will go back to where they were actually having fun.

Whoever even criticizes Killzone 2's controls is a f***ing retard or a fanboy (if not both). I say that because Killzone 2 controls require skill as they don't have the noobish auto-aim, which is more realistic anyway. I got used to the controls immediately, I don't know why everyone is complaining, what a bunch of noobs or fanboys or attention whores.

i'm so tired of people complaining about kz2 controls..people that are crying are those who want them to be like CoD...this game is called Killzone 2... so it's gonna be it's own game. So the people who dont like the controls go back to CoD.. the end..oh KZ2 is SWWWWWEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!

No, the aiming is delayed. What's up with that?

well I guess most of you are just ignoring the problem and going with it. I guess you have no choice. The problem is definitely there and looks like no patch anytime soon. Oh well. All that manpower, money, and development time and they couldn't even get the most important part of a fps and that is the control.

I hope KZ2 fans aren't hating on COD4 because of the whiner COD4 fanboys. I absolutely love both games. Like the guy in the video said, they're made by 2 different devs, 2 yrs apart, they are 2 different games. There is room in this town for both.

And I can't wait for Modern Warfare 2. Until then, KZ2 will burn images in my LCD tv if it's possible.

It's not a twitch shooter, there's no noob aim.

People need to get over it. If you can't play, it's because YOU suck.

except for the deadzone, be nice to have a socom dead zone adjustment

That realism argument does not hold when you realize how easy it is to shoot from the hip in Killzone 2. I never had a problem with "lag" I do hate the button mapping though and wish I could remap the buttons as I see fit like I can with Resistance 2 and Socom confrontation (Acording to my brother, I don't own Socom myself.)

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.