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Killzone 2 and Its Effect on Future Shooters

Killzone 2 is here, and it's excellent. It has the potential to be one of the best things to happen to shooters on the Xbox 360, and shooters in general.

If other games follow in its footsteps, there could be many top-notch FPS titles on the horizon.

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forthegamergood6271d ago

Killzone 2 is the first step in a new level of graphics, though from what I've read, a lot of the gameplay is debated as either fantastic or very generic and poor.

Great article, really well researched, you should read into the Halo 3: ODST stuff more, as it gives you a breakdown of new weapons etc, but the hypothetical questions you ask about it are valid, and well thought-out :)

MrJack6271d ago

The graphics are top notch, and it has better gameplay then CoD.

Only noobs complain about the sensitivity, I haven't even knocked it up a single notch and ALWAYS come first or second online.

OGharryjoysticks6271d ago

I've played it. The gameplay is rock solid. If anybody is actually claiming the gameplay is generic or poor they are just hating on the game and fooled you.

italianbreadman6271d ago

With all the conflicting opinions of Killzone 2, I feel like I just have to play it myself.

I thought the first Killzone was "generic and poor," but I have a feeling this one is actually going to be innovative and excellent... not to mention gorgeous.

el_bandito6271d ago

Arguably its the year's best shooter/game as of the moment, and most technically and graphically advanced game to date. Effect? Of course the great great effort to beat this game in its glorious aspects; yep its competition amongst all developers to create a game of the same caliber----everyone wins!

JsonHenry6271d ago

I personally think the game looks great for a console. Much better than what I thought was possible (even though textures are all washed out and bland).

However, lack of an invite system, no way to check the ping of the server you are on/connecting to, and very small amount of variety of weapons leaves a lot to be desired.

However, future patches, and add-ons through DLC should fix these problems. This game will tide me over until the new CoD ships later this year.

Ju6271d ago

This game does for me for the MP what Resistance did for me for shooter genre in general back then. It got me into the game. I really didn't like competitive online play to much (and I have really tried a couple, and the only thing I could come up with is Bad Company, and R2 co-op). But this game gets you hooked and is very addicting. You want to progress because you want to unlock these damn special abilities to make you even more deadly. The rank progression is very well balanced and the XPs do the rest. The pace is slow, maybe just right for an old guy like me. At the same time turn around within the game is fast, action packed, never gets bored.

CobraKai6271d ago

The gameplay is just as tight as any fps. I don't know what their expecting in terms of innovation, but I'll be damned if this isn't one of the most intense fps I've ever played. Seriously, I felt that Modern Warfare was intense, but this just outdoes it.

Gorgon6271d ago

"
Arguably its the year's best shooter/game as of the moment, and most technically and graphically advanced game to date"

You forgot to add "on consoles" there.

xboxlj6271d ago

I honestly cannot get into Killzone 2 for some reason. I know people are going to claim I am a fanboy, but I am being honest. I really do wish I could find a truly excellent game for my ps3. So far MGS4 is the only game I would put in that category on the ps3. BTW, I was also very disappointed with Halo 3, but I do like the series overall.

solidt126271d ago

Killzone 2 puts tremendous pressure on Halo 3: ODST. It better not look like Halo 3 or people will be disappointed. With it only being an expansion and not a full game I think it will look better than Halo 3, but not as good as Killzone 2.

xboxlj6271d ago

I don't expect for it to look nowhere near Killzone 2. I am not really expecting much from it. I do however hope that they make a Halo 4, with a better story and varied gameplay.

y0haN6270d ago (Edited 6270d ago )

KZ2's online shows that you don't need a massive ranking system to keep players happy, but you do need an elaborate reward system. People can get to the highest rank in say 15-20 hours, but gathering ribbons and therefore new abilities is where the fun is at, and all of that comes afterwards. The ranking system is obviously just there as a sort of training program, so that players of better skill aren't playing with new people (like Bootcamp, on Call of Duty.) The fact that you earn skills not for random feats, like any form of kill, such as in CoD (earning new weapons or skills at a level), but for actually completing tasks creates a more involving experience and more determined players.

The fluidity of the gameplay, such as when a game mode has ended and the next one begins immediately, as well as the ability to join squads, communicate within them, and spawn on your leader, as well as a tactician's (one of the unlockable classes) ability to place mobile spawn points helps players keep the action going without ever zoning out.

The apparent "laggy" controls were never felt by myself, but I have read many complaints of it online. I can only deduce that these people are too used to twitch shooters like CoD/Counter-Strike. The purpose of the controls being more relaxed is that you are meant to feel like your arms are, well, arms. You're meant to have a sense of weight in the world and not feel like some camera-controlled gun.

These are the reasons I like this game.

My 2¢.

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italianbreadman6271d ago

Yeah, definitely a good read. The more that competition spurs creativity and refinement, the better.

mint royale6271d ago

but I doubt developers would have just suddenly realised what they have to do in order to create awesome games. The next huge blockbusters are already in development :)

italianbreadman6271d ago

Haha, true. There's no "light switch" necessary to realize that great graphics, sound, gameplay, etc. makes a great game.

Chubear6271d ago

they'd said "hahaha!!! you cant' even hope to do those kinds of graphics even on the PS4!" and we're seeing this in essentially the first 2 years on the PS3.

With about 5 more years to go before the PS4 launches (and that'll need about a year to get going) isn't it funny how upcoming games are now expected to look like KZ2 even though it was said it could never happen this gen.

Socomer 19796271d ago

Always innovating the industry and having others follow in thier footsteps. Its so cool that this company and the people who work for them are making videogames for us. I appreciate everything & will always buy a PS3 exclusive before any multiplatform game to show my support. Sony you are Awesome.

jBat176271d ago

unlike those complaining noobs, i did my time to play a lot of MP and got used to the controls in a day or 2.

here's why it's not broken: the sniper gun. it's accurate and responsive. no "deadzone". plus the motion sensing is perfect.

every gun handles differently. get used to it.

the only glitch is with the shotty. it auto-aims too easily for an instant kill. but the guys using it aren't complaining.

Chubear6271d ago

KZ2 has spoilt my arse rotten. I have to jolt myself to ignore my thoughts of going "wtf, this looks like last gen" when I play other FPS now.

Pennywise6271d ago

I'm with you. I feel sorry for console devs now... they have high standards to meet.

Chubear6271d ago

not if they come to their senses and make sure they get their hands on the Edge Engine used in KZ2. With Sony's customer support, they could do great things with this engine.

Close_Second6271d ago

...with Gears on the 360. Was easily the best looking game that came out for quite some time (may still be the best on the 360!!). I started comparing everything post Gears to Gears and nothing quite hit the mark as well as Gears.

Killzone 2 is a visual feast and although it can be improved (i.e. the little things such as being able to shoot the flags that litter the landscape, residual bullet holes, etc) its going to be hard to play anything else. For instance, Resistance 2 (albeit a great game) looks positively last gen compared to K2. It also makes the COD games look old and dusty.

K2 is going to be one hard act to follow.

solidt126271d ago

Yeah Im with you guys. I feel sorry for Infinity Ward because they are a top class studio when it comes to FPS games, but since Modern Warfare 2 will be Multi-platform I don't think it will get close enough to Killzone 2, but of course it will still sell well.

CobraKai6271d ago

There has been far too much work done for this engine that it would be a total waste just to have it be used on only Killzone.

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Xbots6271d ago

Killzone 2 best FPS & MP this Gen, FACT...

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Halo 2 & 3 Campaign Remakes Allegedly In Development, Halo 7 Will Feature Multiplayer

Remakes of the campaigns featured in Xbox Game Studios' Halo 2 and Halo 3 are currently in development, according to a new rumor.

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medman184d ago (Edited 184d ago )

That's Microsoft's gaming division for you...kill off developers making new ip while trying to capitalize off some long lost glory that has no hope of ever being what it once was thanks to recent decision making favoring unrealistic profit goals and greed. What a joke.

Reaper22_184d ago

So much bitterness. Why be upset over something like this. Just don't buy it and stick with what you prefer.

Tacoboto183d ago

Complaining about Microsoft is the only thing people comment here for anymore.

This website is practically dead without it

Mmmkay183d ago

I remember when you guys constantly complained about Sony remaking and remastering games. Guess it is cool now. As usual.

thesoftware730183d ago

Give it rest medman..., take a deep breath and try to not sound so invested in something no one is forcing you to read, buy, or play.

"Console war"is over, Sony won, be happy.

medman178d ago (Edited 178d ago )

@thesoftware730
I'm invested in people losing their jobs and their livelihoods while Microsoft execs tout record profits for their gaming division. Not sure why you wouldn't be invested. Could be you one day. Good luck.

Travesty184d ago

So what’s their solution to having multiplayer? Wait until Halo 7?
That was one of the most memorable parts of Halo..

monkey602184d ago

I'm not sure spending the heavy investment in time to recreate the multiplayer here is the answer either though.
Remaking the campaigns is a great idea to bring the new players up to speed. But if the multiplayer is included in each it'll just fracture the player base of each release.
I think it might be better to turn these campaigns out quicker and have 1 multiplayer game to keep everyone in one place

Travesty184d ago

Maybe having an Halo Online and just release the Combat Evolve maps. And when Halo 2 releases have those maps release. I don’t know but I would like to play a newer version of Halo multiplayer. I know times have changed, and Fortnite is all younger kids really play. But back then it was Halo and you connecting 6 Xbox’s together lol.

jjb1981183d ago

I agree. I think that'll segment the playerbase and once 7 comes out, players might realize it sucks and go back to the older games. Especially if 7 is live-servixe, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot on the one good leg they have to stand on.

crazyCoconuts183d ago

Kinda surprised they didn't just port MCC.
Maybe more $ to by made with separate remasters

Inverno183d ago

Wouldn't have that problem if it were MCC being released. Gotta wait for 7 to be disappointed with MP all over again cause if they half baked Infinite what makes people think they won't half bake the next game? MP works in past HALO games not cause of nostalgia but because it's MP that isn't concerned with the endless service approach.

JEECE183d ago

There is so much cognitive dissonance over Infinite. People say they didn't like it because it was a live service. Yet if you look at what the criticisms of it were at the time it came out and when the playerbase started falling off, the primary issue people had was a lack of updates. In other words, it wasn't enough of a live service.

Which is really an encapsulation of the problem with multiplayer today. So many people think that they want to go back to the "good old days" of mid-2000s multiplayer (The first few Halos, Socom, the first few Battlefields, CS 1.6, etc), but in reality if a multiplayer game like that came out today, people would whine about the lack of content within a month of launch and go back to a live service with a grindy progression system.

isarai183d ago

Why not just port the MCC? 🤔 That was the easiest layup ever and you completely missed it

franwex183d ago

30% profit margins! People will pay $70+ for remakes!

Software_Lover183d ago

I thought the same thing, then I realized that they wouldn't include the remakes in that edition. We may get a different version of Halo MCC in the future with all of the remakes included. I just want them to include Halo 5 at some point for PC.

TheColbertinator183d ago

Can they remake Reach too with the multiplayer?

Knightofelemia183d ago

I wonder if Microsoft will port Reach over to Playstation I quite enjoyed that game. I played Halo 3 and it was not bad I have Halo 2 on the OG Xbox I just need some cables to hook up to my tv to play it.

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Only nine franchises make up the top 20 all-time best-selling PlayStation chart in the US

In honour of PlayStation's 30th birthday yesterday in the US, data company Circana has dug out figures showing the top 20 best-selling PlayStation video games ever (date-range Jan 1995 to July 2025). Don't get too excited.

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JEECE234d ago

This is a great reminder of how game sales have become more concentrated in a smaller number of games/series over time. In the PS1/PS2 era a game was a success if it sold a million or a few million copies. The GTA games (3/Vice City/San Andreas) were pretty big outliers in selling as much as they did during the PS2 era. So in the minds of a lot of gamers something like FF VII feels like it was as big of a PS1 game as God of War 2018 was for PS4, but in reality far fewer people bought it (though it has obviously reached additional people through remasters, etc.).

StoneTitan234d ago

this was alwalys the case and will always be the case. with everything

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Zerobalance234d ago (Edited 234d ago )

What this says to me is, not many people are buying a PS to play PS exclusives. Like so many false narratives, like Xbox gamers don't buy games! It seems Playstation as a default system is a vanilla system to play call of duty, Minecraft, GTA games and a sports games.

badz149234d ago (Edited 234d ago )

if you look back into the PS history, it has always been the 3rd parties who sells the most games. it was just that the PS1 and PS2 were so dominant that many of those 3rd party games were exclusives. so, back during the PS1 and PS2 days, the strategy was "to sell as many consoles as possible in order to sell more 1st party exclusives" to ride on that wave. The strategy to push many 1st party exclusives to sell consoles only started with the PS3 when many of those prior 3rd party exclusives went multiplat but more accurately, it started with the PSP.

Sony saw with the PSP, which was being trounced in sales by the DS, that 3rd party exclusives are hard to come by if you're not dominating the market. So they started building more 1st party games and when the PS3 were facing difficulties in sales, they knew they had to rely on their own to differentiate the PS3 from the 360. So the strategy back then changed to "release more 1st party exclusives in order to sell more consoles".

the only manufacturer that is still consistently selling their hardware to play 1st party exclusives, is Nintendo, and that was because they gave up the armrace for power thus they can't rely on 3rd parties anymore as all multiplats play better on competing consoles. AND that's also why they are the most ominous in going after emulators and also patent trolling!

so, you're not wrong there, but not an "aha!" moment or anything. it has been this way since the last, at least, 15 years for Playstation.

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Deathdeliverer233d ago

@zerobalance

So... what this tells you is that Call of duty, being the absolute check writer that it is, has been outsold by Last of us, God of war, 2 Spider man games..... Saying Playstation exclusives doesn't sell is like saying call of duty doesn't sell because they have outsold some of iterations. Does that make sense to you?

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Helldivers 2 Celebrating Xbox Launch — Looks Like It's Teasing a Crossover With Halo 3: ODST

A new teaser in a Helldivers 2 Xbox launch trailer seems to suggest that a crossover with Halo 3: ODST is on the way.

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lukasmain264d ago

This collab proves that New Halo games coming to Playstation: CONFIRMED

The last pillar has fallen XD

Tedakin263d ago

I mean Helldivers 2 is coming to Xbox in 2 weeks. It has a Playstation Studios logo on it. The first pillar has fallen.

lukasmain263d ago

LOL you think a live service game is a Playstation pillar? hahahahahaha

1Victor262d ago

The first pillar has fallen.
🤦🏿 Well the competitor’s house already got 2/3 pillars down and the 3rd one is rotted to the core about to fall any minute now bringing down the glass house of cards down FOREVER 🤣
THE WAR IS OVER DEAL WITH IT

Reaper22_261d ago

It doesnt matter. You can get playstation stuff on PC. That pillar fell a long time ago. And next gen it will continue to fall.

Tedakin263d ago (Edited 263d ago )

@lukasmain Their one successful live service game, and their most successful game in the last few years. Yeah I do.

lukasmain263d ago (Edited 263d ago )

It's not a pillar. Expect ALL live serviice games to come over. That includes that upcoming Marvel Tokon Fighting Souls as well at some point. But the PILLARS are the amazing single player games. The games they built their brand on. Helldivers LAUNCHED on PC. It's not a Playstation Pillar

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