The next big thing. Everybody wants to create it. Retailers want to sell it, and in theory at least, consumers want to sweep it up in their arms. But what happens when two competing technologies claim to be the one true future? It's almost as fractured and chaotic as worldly religion; on one side you have the HD DVD devout, and on the other sit the Blu-ray believers. Both are convinced that they are destined to rule.
Two competing formats, but only one will reign supreme.
Today, IGN gives their verdict...
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Pascal Gilcher calls DLSS 5 impressive but shares the "AI slop" sentiment, explaining the likely tech behind it and why he dislikes it.
I fail to see how this is AI shhhhlllloooop. Looking at the different games they showed, this has made many of them look far better.
It's AI slop because it ignores the artists intent and changes the details ESPECIALLY when it comes to character faces. The scariest part of it is introducing it as the next stage of DLSS, a feature where the current iteration already has controversy surrounding it and for quite a lot of games cannot be fully disabled. So reasonably the precident is already set for what path this could take, and it's not good
In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost and so on. Many of the lighting deletes shadow, including shadow on the face like eyes even chin.
Why stop at art when it comes to human input - why not just have AI play the game for us, remove human input altogether
If you don’t like it, just don’t enable it. Personally I think it looks great from the videos I have seen.
And what about when you can't? Cause there's plenty of games where you cannot fully disable dlss already, i mean we're well into an era where it's a major crutch for developers to cover up their cut corners, why would this be any different?
You are playing with people's money and allow Nvidia to scam you.
In case you didn't watch the video then let me point just one part. It overrides the lighting. Then the question of what is the point of ray tracing cost. This is all lie to raise the cost of the graphic card.
Making characters look more realistic not ok because we want the developer to decide on how the game was intended to look. - Internet
Change entire game through mods thus changing how the developers intended the game to be is ok. - Internet
Something consumers can do to a product after they have purchased it, entirely optional and can always be undone with a fresh install
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The leading gaming hardware manufacturer making this the next iteration of the main AA/Upscaling technique that is heavily relied upod by modern devs and is not optional in most games.
Not at all the same but nice try
At the moment you need 2 5090’s just to get an image on the screen so this is all vaporware until proven otherwise.
It's all about choice in the end. But, I would say that calling it 'more realistic' is quite a stretch. It looks like AI art, and that's rarely realistic.
All the comments I see are reminding me of how we got to the current state of gaming when microtransactions were first introduced: "It's completely optional guys, we promise! If you don't like it just don't buy it!"
I think we all know how that ended up.
I had the same exact thought the first time this was brought up in a separate article about a week ago. Took me straight back to the conversations surrounding “horse armor.” Just don’t buy it they said. Years later, many IPs I previously enjoyed are so infected with monetization schemes that I don’t even consider purchasing them anymore.
DLSS 5 and the like are the same thing wrapped in a different package. History rhymes but many of us never learn from it.
Biggest Scam. Overrides lighting and shadow. So why keep Ray tracing? It's all a scam to raise graphic card. We now see Nvidia with Microsoft downturn anything against them. Sony is next!
And Blu-ray has that in spades. It's the reason BD-ROM has gained such a large lead, in addition to the launch of the Playstation 3 (i.e. market penetration).
"Microsoft has instead opted to keep the format at arm's-length until time has proven it successful. This, ironically, may also spell the format's long-term downfall since, under the guise of consumer-choice and flexibility, they are actually inadvertently crushing consumer confidence. If it isn't a standard feature, then why is it worth a dime at all? And if all manufacturers take the same wait-and-see attitude with HD DVD hardware that Microsoft has, then who's creating the drives? And who would bother to create publish for a format with no install base? Our concerns are clear." -IGN-
Unfortunately, I don't see many numbers being important as of now, but movie sales per unit is vital (something glaringly left out of the article). Blu-ray has a slight lead in players around 2% and thats with over 1 million ps3's. The attachment rate is half of HD-DVD's. The reason these numbers are important, this is because PS3 owners are not buying the system for movies (granted they might buy one or two since there are about 3 games worth playing right now, which should hopefully change soon) whereas an HD-DVD buyer is, because that is why they bought the player. There are no games on HD-DVD so its buyers are picking up more movies. The PS3 in the long run will give Blu-ray a great advantage in an installer base, but as of now, those numbers are like any facts. You can spin them how you want to make a point. So, go ahead fanboys and spin... just keep in mind this is a DVD format article.
Then standard DVD wins, hands down!
I've read that the image quality is supposed to be equal - even that HD-DVD is marginally better.
However, if I was your average Joe off the street, walking into my local Best Buy and checking out the two displays, the Blu-Ray was clearly superior. For whatever reason - bad cables, a less worthy TV, the HD-DVD demo picture looked just like the other TVs in the "TV section" going through their display loop.
The Blu-Ray had the "wow" factor - the picture was amazing - brilliant.
Again, I'm not saying which is actually better - I'm just saying what I observed at retail - and regardless of whatever someone reads - I could see someone coming it to the store with the intention of getting HD-DVD and leaving with Blu-Ray based on what I saw.
this is all well and good for blue ray but the thing is the average joe tends to get set in his ways for a lot longer than the gaming community who have to adopt a new format every 4 years look how long vhs went for they only got phased out 1.5 years ago and DVD only became the norm about 3 years ago so sony where right to included blue ray in the ps3 if they think their console will last 8-10 years by then microsoft and nintie will bring out the xbox 360 2 and WII 2 with blue ray in it as the norm. microsoft and nintendo where right not to included hd dvd or blue ray when it wont be cost effective or the norm for about 3-4 years. the uk doesn't switch over to digtal and full HD broadcasting till 2012 and about 1% of the uk have HD TVs. blue ray and hd dvd is pointless with out that. DVD has 3-4 years left in it so blue ray will be gathering dust till. put it simple 5 dvds for 30 quid or 2 blue ray dvds and a whole load of kit worth about 1.2 grand to watch them.....for the average joe no contest DVD wins Till HD telvision becomes standard.