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Does Killzone 2 reflect the PS3's full potential?

Techradar: "It's always fascinating to look back at the early shots of flagship games for new consoles – to dream of what might have been, to rue what wasn't, or even to make grunts of sheer surprise that it did actually work out as planned.

As a case in point, today sees the release of Killzone 2 – the current great white hope for the Playstation 3, and sequel to the first-person shooter that was once mooted as the Playstation 2's Halo-killer.

Killzone 2's been one of the vanguards of the Playstation 3 marketing push since 2005, when an E3 video, presumed by many to be in-engine footage, but in fact was an optimistic 'target render', wowed the crowds into thinking Sony's upcoming console would be some kind of technological revolution."

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metalhead6257d ago

No silly it reflects 60% of the PS3s full potential.

MURKERR6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

im playing it right now and it surpasses that trailer in some instances, now we have the game we are seeing for ourselves

Lifendz6257d ago

My entire buddy list is playing the game at the moment. This is going to be great. KILLZONE!!!

TheTwelve6257d ago

And this is the kind of game that I bought a PS3 for. Motorstorm, MGS4, Uncharted, Valkyrie Chronicles...games of that caliber are why I bought this thing.

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UnwanteDreamz6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

I couldn't have said it better myself. I wont downplay 360 exclusive games but in reality if I wanted to play those games I'd buy a 360. I wanted to play the new MGS, GOW, and KZ2 among others so I chose PS3. It's all about the games for me.

EDIT @ BELOW

Awwwww why so glum dont hate....participate.......hey lets start a fund so Frank can get a PS3 and stop crying.

"Enjoy Killzone you idiots its been a long time coming, 360 owners have been enjoying games of this calibur since launch day."

Sure buddy....whatever you say.

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darthv726257d ago

I would have to say no based on the potential other devs will find the longer they work at it. Some of the best games from generations past have come out at or near the end of the systems lifespan.

It is usually by then that all manner of exploits have been found and devs can really work their magic and make things happen you never thought possible.

One of the best examples of this would be Ranger X on the genesis. Had some of the best scrolling and action on screen and it was one of the last games to be released for sega's cartridge legend.

JsonHenry6257d ago

Game looks great. Just wish that consoles would have better (higher rez) textures in their games. But certainly this game looks better than what I thought a console could pull off this generation.

majorsuave6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

I'm pretty sure that in 2014 (they have a 10 year plan dont they?) any major titles made for the PS3 will make KZ2 look so 'passé'.

Compare PS2 games of 2006 with those of 2000... It does not look like the same console.

TheTwelve6257d ago

Sorry, Frank, but I'm afraid I love top-of-the-line graphics. If I just wanted gameplay, I would have gotten a Wii, not a 360. Killzone 2 and the other games I listed are top of the line in every way, including graphics...and that's why I got a PS3.

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RussDeBuss6257d ago

uncharted 2, god of war 3, heavy rain all say we are just getting started.

playstations historically improve up until the next console is out,graphically, judging by gow2.

360 to me seems to have blown it's load already, and too soon.
that is the downside of making a console that is easy for devs to make games for early on, it gets harder to make the newer games look massivly better. geow 1 and 2, although definatly looking better from 1 to 2, to was not a big jump in graphics

N4g_null6256d ago

You guys do realize this is one of the main reasons high end people are NOT buying the PS3 and instead getting some thing that already proves it's worth like a new PC card to run crysis.

All of this talk of the PS3 has not reached it's full potiential and the lack of any game that need that potientail game play wise are reason why people will wait for the PS3 to A) drop in price or B) realize it's potential.

I'm sorry I don't buy high end stuff to be told it is only using 60% of my system. The first thing I will ask is where is the game that uses 90% then. Most people will answer it has not been made yet and then procedd to tell me it is some great programming puzzle when photoshop CS4 is actualy using GPUs for it's code now and crysis has been out for ever along with more games that will be using multiple cores and GPUs with over 200 cores in them.

The price along does not warrant the hype and actually makes it quit negative to many who do not care about blu-ray. I know it makes owners feel good about their system but that is all it is doing right now.

Now what happens when the xbox 360 gets a way better looking game? Seriously this is possible simply because of art direction along. Any trick that the PS3 gets the xbox 360 will get also since it also has untapped potential with in it's 3rd core.

Another thing is UT3 runs on lots of old PCs surprisingly well. It just goes to show you that Epic along with other PC developers had a lot to learn about optimizing code. That was not the point back in the day. Or maybe it was more about selling video cards, either way it worked and they got funding to final tweak their code.

Seriously if you hold epic as the best coders out their then you may be happily surprised in the future at the xbox if some one chooses to bless the system with a great playing game. The same goes for the PS3 yet you may want to set away from the hype because only kids will believe you and they are not walking around with $400 these days, especial after mom and dad got their hours cut back.

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el_bandito6257d ago

Call 'em full potential or call 'em 60% PS3 cell processing power or whatever...I just never imagined a console game looking as good as this one.

Pennywise6257d ago

Its only going to get better... which I know, is hard to believe.

negative6257d ago

I hope the final product looks better than the demo.... because the demo wasn't THAT impressive. Disagree all you want fanboys but I went right back to COD4 on the 360 and didn't miss a beat.

I'm going to get Killzone 2 but I sure won't be praising what isn't there like the rest of you.

doG_beLIEfs6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

Tell me, what games have you played where the best looking most intense levels are at the BEGINNING of the game? If you have read ANY of the reviews almost every single one said that about midway thru the SPC, it ramps up graphically and in intensity. Some of the later levels are said to have over 200 dynamic lights that realistically reflect off and interact with the environment. To put that into perspective, most games have 3 or 4 dynamic lights.

Give it time or get rid of it and go play you COD4. Having said that, even the demo does things that no other console games have ever done. Volumetric smoke interacting with the environment? A.I. charging up the stairs in a flanking maneuver while another Helghast fires on you to keep you unaware?

KZ2 is NOT COD4...and I am glad that its not.

Brodiesan6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

The final product looks better than the demo. And plays better too.

As you're picking it up soon you should see for yourself. Check back in and let us know what you think.

I also was not BLOWN away by the demo. The final product however - it is better IMHO.

[EDIT] Amazing. You disagree with someone's opinion? Do you also kick puppies and shake your fist at women voting? Pathetic.

Makroyale6257d ago

This is a lot better than I expected with a gaming console. These are PC quality graphics.

This game definitely raises the bar graphically and is going to be the new standard to which all games will be compared to.

Pennywise6257d ago

blue shirt. dont buy kz. stay on your 360, please.

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jkhan6257d ago

Just wait till killzone 3 comes out or why wait that long just wait till Uncharted 2 and Heavy Rain comes out;)

Brodiesan6257d ago

Somehow, with that avatar - I'm pretty sure he didn't forget about GOWIII

;)

jkhan6257d ago

Naa I can never forget my most anticipated game. I was just specifically talking about this year only.

_Q_6257d ago

Killzone 2 doesnt make you feel like its showing the PS3's full potential

doG_beLIEfs6257d ago

is the constant improvement in the software. Every Playstation has been accused of being hard to code for by some developers yet every Playstation INCLUDING the PS3 have shown what they are capable of.

Look at PS1 launch games and look at PS1 middle or late generation games. A Big difference in design, size, complexity, graphics and so on.

Look at PS2 launch games and look at PS2 middle or late generation games. A Huge difference in design, size, complexity, graphics and so on.

Now look at PS3 launch games and look at what we are starting to see now. a GIGANTIC difference in design, size, complexity, graphics and so on.

I remember reading an article about an interview with Ted Price, it was b4 the PS3 came out and it was about developing on the PS3 and the potential he saw. He said just think of the difference in early PS2 games and late PS2 games...and multiply that by 5 or 10. Yes, he was serious, he said at the time he could not imagine how big a difference we will see in 2,3, or 4 years...but he did say that we would hardly recognize it as a game coming from the same system.

Well once again...the gaming media is realizing that Sony has yet again made a machine that has constant and yearly improvement in games and once again the competition has been maxed out too early because of a simple to code for design.

Props to Sony and Ken Kutaragi for having the vision and foresight to give us the beast that is the PS3.

And believe it or not...KZ2 will look nothing more than average in 2 years on the PS3. Indeed...next gen DOES begin when Sony says so.

Not as much of a pompous statement now is it pro 360 gaming media?

When the PS4 releases...we will HOPEFULLY go thru the same BS as we have with the first 3 Playstations where gaming media and many people FORGET about the early games on previous Playstations. And 2 or 3 years after the PS4 launches...we will see what she can really do.

RAmen

doG_beLIEfs6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

If you give me a disagree fine, but it won't make the PS3 magically devolve to be on par with the 360 and I and the millions of other PS3 owners will still be getting 1st party games that anhilate the 360's best 1st party or 3rd party of exclu$ive games.

RAmen

_Q_6257d ago

Im surprised I have received my automatic disagrees yet just for having a KZ2 avatar. lol Sheep!

doG_beLIEfs6257d ago

Blu-ray is not needed, DVD is big enough.
Cell is not that powerful.
RSX is a crappy graphics chip that was shoehorned in at the last minute.
Its too hard to code for.
Sony does not care about games...they only care about winning the HD War.

Oh man, LMFAO on those.

Yeah, they make as much sense now as the Republican party does.

Brodiesan6257d ago

Maybe the disagree was because of the recent news that the PS4 will most likely use (an updated version of) the Cell architecture?

i.e. perhaps the PS4 won't be as difficult to program for due to the leverage the developers can use from their PS3 days?

I've also learned that there are people on this site that will auto-disagree with you if you are in ANYWAY (biased or not) supportive of one console over another.

It's like it's ingrained into their psyche or something.
"Woah, hang on. Someone just said something postitive about a console I don't own/like/have ever played or intend on playing!"

*immediately down votes*

It's sad really. I agree with people who "make sense" - irrespective of their console allegiances. I disagree with rabid fanboys (of ALL camps) when they spout inane nonsense.

I recommend that the anti-Sony/MS/Whatever people out there try it.

Kyur4ThePain6257d ago

I'm starting to like the way you talk.
Have a bubble.

Pennywise6257d ago

The disagrees are coming from all the people NOT talking because they have been killzoned. MS had a lot of people fooled for a while. True colors always come out eventually!

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decapitator6257d ago (Edited 6257d ago )

Full potential ? A systems full potential is never fully recognized until it has hit its late years. The system is still relatively young.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman540d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX540d ago (Edited 540d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne539d ago (Edited 539d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro540d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken539d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown540d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72540d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken539d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya539d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast540d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood539d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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OtterX769d ago (Edited 769d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro768d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72768d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_768d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga768d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos768d ago (Edited 768d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23768d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000769d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin769d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole769d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix769d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989768d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor769d ago (Edited 769d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989768d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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SullysCigar1073d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1073d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1073d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1072d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491072d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381073d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1073d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1073d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381073d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1073d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761073d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1072d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301073d ago (Edited 1073d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1072d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1073d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1073d ago (Edited 1073d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1072d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1072d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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