DLC is BULLSH1T!! for all people paying for it is basically telling the game developers that" Hey, go head and make us an incomplete game, release it to us earlier, charge full price and make us pay for your dlc later on so we won't think that the game actually cost us $69-$79 each instead of it being $59( which is pricey as it is) Tsk.."

man the only people hatting on dlc are sonyfanboys why because MS is keeping it only on their system wait wasn't sonyfanboys jumping around when mirror edge dlc was ps3 exclusive saying yeah now what bots now they seen lost and damn and how sweet it is now they crying like b!tches. Watch this u see they b!tching about MS dlc saying dlc is a scam watch all them run to that killzone 2 dlc.

"Downloadable Content, otherwise known as DLC, is this year's top gaming buzzword."

Really? I thought for once that people were more interested in the games on the way, like SF4, RE5 and Killzone 2?

"Last year it was episodic content which gave us the Half-Life 2 episodes"

Actually, no, 2008 didn't see any new Half Life releases.

Based on both of these points, i won't be reading the full article.

You know I don't mind so much if the Downloadable content was actually new stuff that the developers thought of to put into the game, and wasn't just stuff that they had intentionally wanted to be in the game. Such an example would be of Little Big Planet I suppose, and the fact that some of the Downloadable content is free and some you pay for. If something like that were to happen I'd be fine; but most of the time I always see you have to pay for downloadable content another example of this would be street Fighter IV. I really don't want to pay for alternative costumes, but I love trying to get them, so I might just get them for characters I use the most.

What has happened to working hard in the midst of the game to unlock a certain type of costume or color for it :(? I know you can do colors for characters, but why make alternative costumes downloadable content that needs to be paid for now?

this is what should happen with DCL IMO. Anything that cant fit on the blu-ray 60 gig disc make it DLC. for the other console.. well charge more?

It all comes down to value for money,

If i wanted GTA4 Lost & Damned I wouldn't feel ripped off paying for it, because there is plenty of content for money, also it's obvious that the developers have spent time working on it after the launch of GTA4.

Games like Soul Calibar 4 which had content available on launch as Download Content are just ripping us off by excluding stuff off the disk!

Map pack for CoD4 has provided me hours of gameplay, but I'm not sure I would of got it unless I got the game of the year edition of Cod4 as if it's free on PC it should be free on consoles too!

when people say MS is the king of DLC and their rip offs. But SONY isnt any better with the LBP outfits....

not for nothing id rather pay for a game than for outfits. Even the HOME outfits cost money.

I am one of those that does not buy DLC. I firmly believe that if I needed it they would have put it the game I paid 60 for. If there is DLC it should be free like Epic is doing on PC and PS3. When I pay for something I want to be able to hold it in disc form. PSN and Live titles are ok considering the low price point I don't mind downloading them, but full retail games I think not.

MS started it, LMFAO, at least they don't charge for furniture in a fake house.

not to mention how alot of DLC that is worth getting, is worth that extra money. all the extra halo maps, are worth the extra money, same for the rock band/guitar hero songs. or new cars/tracks in racing games. those things are worth the money, but a extra outfit for 1.99$ is not, *AHEHM disgaea 3* so it has its limits.

but this is just another BS article about a 16 year old kid going, "it costs to much to buy everything and i don't want to work more. WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H"
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I've never really played a game that I liked so much that I found paying for DLC to be worth it.

1st and last DLC I purchased was the first Warhawk exp. pack.
been a day one Live gold member and never have or will purchase dlc

1. You absolutely loved the title and want to extend the experience. In the case of FPS titles, you have played and mastered every multiplayer maps, game types, weapons, etc.

2. It's your money and it's your choice. There is no one forcing you to make this decision

3. DLC like GTA's 'Lost and the Damned', pushed the boundaries on what DLC could be. 'Lost' is as big as some games on the market making it an amazing value, while clearly enhancing the original games experience.

4. Developers who get a cut of the $ have true incentive to make quality DLC. So even if they never get a cut of Gamestop's used game money, the consumer who bought the game used and actually purchases additional content still helps the developer.

5. Between Halo 3, Mass Effect, Elder scrolls, Gears of war, Fable 2, etc. you've propably already purchased content in some way shape or form anyway. So fan-blogger articles like this pop up on N4G.com, you usually laugh at how no one EVER actually taking these guys seriously.

Because you're poor.

In most cases it already on the disc.(SF4 and SC4 come to mind.) Its things like Xbox Live and PSN which do this since the network is there and if you hack it you will be banned. Its sad that you pay for something you really already own in most cases.

DLC sucks

still cant believe i paid for that pathetic knothole island for fable II

Dev's put a lot of time in some of the DLC. Some DLC are almost full games. Now if all your getting is a few minutes of extra game play or a few weapons, then no, you should not pay. But DLC like in Oblivion, GTA, etc (due to size and scope) is worth it in my opinion.

But the LBP/MGS4 Level Pack was really FUN!!!;) Glad i got that.

As with anything, I think a person should have a 24 hour return policy or something. I am all for ponying up $10-$20 for some new maps and whatnot but what erks me is when I finally download it and discover it's lame. (Rainbow 6 Vegas expansions)

If you buy a car, it typically doesn't come with after market features. Rims, stereo, paint, window tint, all must be purchased. Sure, the car makers COULD include it but that would raise the price.

I am just a typical consumer. I likey, I buy. No biggie. Just give me my money back if it sucks!

M$ are ruining the game industry they started this crap milking the bots to death glad I don't game on the crapbox pleasefixme

what kind of DLC that i'm having and how much i will pay for it

having a DLC for a game i like is good but it's not good when the company make it as a must (like street fighter they could have all the DLCs in the disk but they want us to pay)that's why i don't like putting too much money in the DLCs this would make the company more greedy

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wasn't so blatant that they skim features and content off the product to sell later.

"Free will, buy it or don't" argument doesn't stand on it's own when they do this. Your $60 isn't just paying for what you get on the disk. It is also paying for the development of DLC which you then have to shell out more money for. Case in point. The alternate costumes for Street Fighter IV. The screens were out weeks before the game shipped there is no way they couldn't have been included. Another good example is the video editing tools for skate 2. Those came out what a couple days after the games launch? It is totla BS. Gamers should be paying attention to this not the pointless MS VS Sony argument.

on a xbox360 it would probly cost 600MSPoints.
if you buy it you are left with 60MSpoints.

MSpoints equal RAPE.

Now that Jim Ryan is gone just need to remove Herman Hulst from his position! And maybe give Shuhei the position he deserved.

This gen hasn't been the best for games, last gen consoles are still out there and now there's been talk of the PS6 and Xbox Two for a year or so. Many games this gen will be ported to next gen and the cycle will continue. The re-release of the Neo Geo AES+, games on cartridge for £70 ($95), gaming is going back in time. Gaming has gone pricing mad with the high cost of games, consoles and controllers. The men and women at the top are clueless.

It’s always interesting to hear behind-the-scenes stories like this, especially involving veterans like Shuhei Yoshida and leadership figures like Jim Ryan. That said, there are usually multiple sides to decisions at that level. It could be less about not “listening” and more about differences in long-term vision for PlayStation. Yoshida played a huge role in shaping the brand, so whatever the reason, his impact is undeniable.

If true, and I'm inclined to believe it is, it goes to show that Sony lost their way when they became more western/didn't respect the PlayStation origin story. Andrew House and Jack Tretton did great work, but they also didn't try to fundamentally change the PlayStation DNA. Ryan oversaw the death of Japan Studio and a live service direction.

I already figured this, good lord imagine if Shuhei took over instead, would've been a platinum era 😩

I miss the first three generations of PlayStation. The way they turned PS3 around, we knew they meant business. We were all worried for a bit there around launch. Eventually from 2008 they started shifting slowly. But since Yoshida was fired, it's never been the same. Still enjoy my PS5 daily. I got a backlog dating back to PS2 lol So I'm fine but new games aren't as appealing anymore.

It seems like we were thrown on to the worst timeline possible where everything is too expensive and the wrong people were put in positions that makes the world a shitty place. We could have had Shu as the head of PS but we got the shitty alternative. Same goes for everyone in power around the world. Doesn’t matter the company or country the majority of us got the shitty picks and the world is declining like never before. I do think PS can come out of this because of their studios, talent and IP but they need someone more in touch with gamers leading things like Shu was. They’re still the best place for console gaming imo but it could be much better than it is especially without the massive live service failures. The rest of the world I have a lot less hope for right now. Hopefully the pendulum swings back towards the good ole days but I’m preparing for the worst.

There goes illuminati distraction story

So now there's certifiable proof that Ryan was in fact "fired", as opposed to when it was first announced that he "retired", in order to save face.

There's another guy who recently "retired" as CEO of another large gaming company, after doing a dismantling job as lead for well over a decade.

seems legit, the business man, fires the one who has ideas to move the business forward.

Jim Ryan is the reason why we are entering year 6 since the PS5 launch and many of us don't feel like the PS5 has gotten started as yet.

I hope going forward, we will see a return to form.