This is what I mean. This a quote from the cheif designer of Heavenly Sword at Ninja Theory. They haven't released any info for a long time and that is generally down to Sony and not because they don't want to, they're just not allowed to yet...but he says;

"Game is going well. We are not allowed to say anything though! I'm sorry about how disappointing this is but there really is very little we can do about it!

We are working hard to try and pull everything together and make the best game we can for you guys! Frankly I don't really want to trumpet the game until we have something to show that speaks for itself. I've seen too many people fall into this trap recently!

Take care and I'll try and post a little more often if I can!

Tameem"

What I'm highlighting is "Frankly I don't really want to trumpet the game until we have something to show that speaks for itself. I've seen too many people fall into this trap recently!"...

Sorry but there is no way we are getting a Killzone demo this month, or next month, or even the month after that.

this is sony's answer to halo 3, the same way kill zone for ps2 was for halo 2. the amount of info about this game will depends on how much info microsoft releases about Halo 3. I really hope they release some game play footage this time around. we all know that developers today can do some serious CGI or the so call CGI with "game assets" and that they don't do like Sony did during the last E3 with pretty much every game where game play was hidden from the public. I know this game will look great, there is no need to hide the real stuff.

but they have to have something though cuase its having alot of talk so maybe not a demo but i think a trailer with actual gameplay is going to happen if there is nothing then why are people are talking about it and posting it thats my opinoin

hopefully nextweeks gdc will shed some light on the game.sony really needs a big title to hush all these 360 fans up.

I think you need something more than a post on a message board referring to a magazine article that hasn't even come out yet.

i defintely agree,probaly just another false hope.

i guess i feel like you do.growing kinda impatient with all the rumors about killzone.need more solid info.

Killzone 1 was very crap when i played it.

IM OUT...///"""

oh well,looks like Phill Harrison was correct after all, about some areas of the game exceeding the E3 trailer..hope this rumour gets clearance next week.

live up to its hype i think it will but what do you guys think

just wondering

kinda

"You'll be seeing it, rather than playing it, in early march. We've put together a surprise demo for the Psn and will be available soon."

that alone from the first sentence is saying rthat we wont play it in march... we'll see it we will definately see this running, realtime footage, showing in game assests like what kojima did with MGS4's recent trailer.

so even if it's just a trailer well see game play footage. and then i believe that the demo will surface on the PSN right around the time for E3 in June.....

man oh man.... hey come to think about it. isn't that the same time the playabale demo of FF13 and MGS4 is to be shown... man this is gonna be interesting if they do. if square and kojima dont release it at E3 in june you can bet your undies that it will be for the Tokyo Game show 07...

man Sony is doing it this year. i just hope this killzone ps3 "rumor" is a sure shock thing and shows in some form at GDC because everyone even MS and nintendo Fans alike are wanting to see if this is true or just a dud bust.

"You'll be seeing it, rather than playing it, in early march. We've put together a surprise demo for the Psn and will be available soon."

So it maybe another tech demo, or something from actual game footage. I doubt that it is an actual demo. I wouldn't mind them showing off the early stages of the game, character and map design, you know just developers talking about the game.

well written D3acon

Comon already i really want some info on this game, i know for a fact that Killzone 1 could of be miles better but the PS2's hardware was not powerful enough, This game could make me buy a PS3 with MGS4.

if not then it would be good to see in game footage but after 2 years i just wanna blow S%#T up!!!!!!!

This is one that i really want to see soon.

i want to play killzone 2 but is the first game relly worth buying. same with mgs4. are games 2+3 worth it

Four of my buds watched this trailer and said if this looks as good as the trailer they would by system.

i dont know how it will stack up against halo3 but it will be a great effort to dethrone them and i cant wait to see the outcome

Only 5 more days until we get to see it for ourselves. I'm gonna go cross my fingers.

SONY know if they fail, ps3 is going down, because they know HALO 3 is coming out soon. So, I think that Killzone 2 will be like a monster, and the demo is coming out. SONY know that they most do it right. However, if this rumor is truth and i think it is, then ps3 is the best console ever. I'm not saying 360 sucks, but we all know the games that are about to come out on the ps3. Here are some of the games that are about to come out on the ps3.

1- Motorstrom
2-Lair
3-Heavenly Sword
4-MGS4
5-FF XIII
6-Killzone 2

And don't forget about

7-Unreal-t
8-GTA 4

SO, SONY remember what happened in E305, u know
everybody was talkin about Killzone 2, but then SONY came out with some BS and some people star hating on SONY. That's y SONY know that they need killzone 2, because if they do what they said they were gonna do with Killzone 2, Then they gonna bring those people back and ps3 will star selling like hot coffee in a cold day, and they will be back again in their position (#1).

COME ON SONY! We all know u got the games, just do whatchu have to do, and we all know that u can do it.

My opinion.

Quote:
"You'll be seeing it, rather than playing it, in early march. We've put together a surprise demo for the Psn and will be available soon.".......

.......The game devs are indicating that its visual appeal is so staggeringly phenomenal and the amount to activity onscreen, the blast factor of physics insanity, quality of animation and integrity of dynamic warfare etc. are at such a high that it is going to be more of a movie-like experience rather than a controllable feature for the player...AWESOME !!!

6th March is going to be real gruesome you know !

^^ Lets hope its ingame and real time not CGI.

Nah DJ, it was CGI and i have a feeling you were being scarcasite (sp?)

U don't get it right? dude SONY is not going to show the same fake ass video again, because they know we won't like that and we will get mad at them, so they know they're not stupid. what ur mad because u know Killzone 2 will be better than ur lil avatar.

Sigh...Alien i'm actually looking foward to Killzone 2 like many of you guys are, i like Halo 3 as well, i am called a gamer, i like all consoles, i may not like the companies who produce those consoles. Next time think before you type.

the KILLZONE franchise if nothing else but rumour and innuendo driven is really starting to whip up a considerable buzz. Even for a KILLZONE die-hard like myself who thoroughly enjoyed the original PS2 KZ (and don't forget the musical score -- absolutely brilliant), I think this game is getting way too much hype if it dsoesn't deliver. When they say "exceeding" what was shown two years ago....they are setting the bar at a really high setting. Like I've stated before right here on N4G, if this game even comes within 90% of the target render, Guerilla will have a bonofide GOTY candidate on their hands which will dwarf Motorstorm like a Red Giant. I mean c'mon, that original E3 trailer looks better than anything we've ever seen. Show me.

I really don't care so much if it's a demo or not, as long as we finally can see some ingame pictures and videos. Ooooh I can't wait! I've waited months after months after months for this!!!

Maddy. But the absolute cheapest and most effective way to build buzz about a game is to release screen shots or videos on the internet. The cost probably ends up being a rounding error in petty cash. We're not talking SuperBowl budgets here. It's done for BioShock, it's done for Lair. It was done for Motorstorm. Where the hell is KillZone? Why aren't they showing us anything? If they're being secretive to build hype it's starting to backfire. All they're building is doubt. We'll see. I still have a bad feeling about this game.

Prove me wrong Sony, prove all of the doubters wrong.

that's exactly right. All of this silence is doing nothing but adding to the amount of skepticism if not all out doubt regarding the graphics and gameplay of this monster title. I can understand Guerilla/SNE not wanting to "tip their hands too early" or let anyone down, but damn - give us something to critique = feedback = innovation before launch = better experience = more return for the pub/dev. Am I missing something here?

Anyway I hope my cynism is put to rest gracefully though. I mean, it's going to be so exciting just to see the updated logos and sounds of the game when I turn on the trailer / demo, but I must see some in-game footage in order to believe what I'm hyping personally is justified. So far it's only been fairytale. Is it possible for the game to meet the target render? Yes, I believe so with the amount of dev's and money being poured into the "KILLZONE expereince" if you will - they will be able to get damn close if nothing else. Harrison, Hirai, Karraker, and Cellius all know what the duty of this game is. If they don't by now, then the game will be a total downer. But if they're all holding back because this game will truly define the PS3 like Gears did for the 360, then by all means....continue with your riddles, misdirection and leaks SNE. =]

Well, the graphical gap between CG and real-time graphics ain't so big in this new generation, so the difference should be rather explained as "complexity of the scene".

If you have seen Battlefield: Bad Company demo (which is said to be realtime) it comes pretty close to Killzone, minus the complexity of the scene. Movements, facial animations, and graphics just look great. But will the game play that way? I don't think so.

So I don't expect Killzone to exceed the graphics shown in E05, but if it gets close to the complexity of that scene shown back there, it will be amazing. But I am talking about non-scripted, live battlefield. Like a soldier deciding to fire rocketlauncher to enemy veichle, and his friend behind him ducking underneath in order not to get burned by the back-burst. Now if that happens every time we get up on that bridge, in the same place, it won't be amazing at at all. But consider that soldier running up at the enemy veichle to set up a charge next time you play, and asking for his allies assistance, even interacting you and asking for your help this time. That'd be amazing. That's also why Cell was made, countless and complex calculations, and such AI could be delivered within time maybe.

So let's just wait and see if it exceeds the demonstration. But I'll be taking a look at the AI and complexity of the scene first, not the graphics.

For the record Sony have NEVER called Killzone a "Halo Killer". Thats a term fanboys and lazy games journalist use to stir contraversy. So if its a great game but you're disapointted because you thought Halo was better that its you own stupid fault.

I think they are being very careful NOT to overhype KZ2 so people's expetations aren't unreasonably high but it seems the less they give the more people want to know.

I think the best possible thing they could show now, is the original trailer. We'd all be watching, its the same frame for frame. We all go "I thought they were going to show something new, this is the same trailer." Then right at the end they pause it a zoom around with the camera. A title appears on screen saying "This presentation has all been in-game graphics, produced in real-time with the Killzone engine."

That would make heads pop. I can dream can't I?

maybe it does come out soon i hope but i dont really care about this game i dont wanna get overexcited about this game till i play it

I really enjoyed that game. And the Graphics for the actual mechs was amazing. Though most of the game was in remote barron places.....It sold well and I played many hours online with friends. It was one of those love hate games I guess. Many many respectable review sites gave it in the 8 range with a few 9 ratings.....I would have gave it an 8 ish score personally. But it ended up averaging 71%. Thats not bad and I don't buy or enjoy games based on reviews. But obviously opinions on Chromehounds range from "Great" to "ok" to "Mediocre". Is that ok Fanboys? To enjoy a game that only recieved an average score in the 7's? Well, I enjoyed it, and I thought it was Graphically fantastic. At least on a HD TV.

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I'm not too excited for anything Killzone...they blew it at E3 2005 with me. But, I will keep my eyes open and give it a fair shot when it gets released.

I dont understand I've never played killzone but looking at the vids of the PS2 version i dotn see what was so wrong with it. Who do people assume that KZ2 wont be a good game.?

KZI was maligned by a horrible description (not of it's own) as a Halo Killer. Please realize that this game has nothing to do with Halo nor did it ever aspire to be such. Also the game was too unstable for the PS2 hardware and the online play suffered from glitches and slowdown unlike the R:FOM online play. These hindrances kept it from a higher initial score, but if you go to Gamespot you'll see the Reader Reviews are at a solid 8.5 to 8.6 rating which is damn good for a game that was rated 6.9 initially by the critics.

Now, the good things about the old "Greatest Hit" on the PS2 was that the musical score was genius. The player grittiness and dark, violent nature of the graphics and gameplay was terrific. Another good thing that KZI got right imo was the sound of gunfire, ejection of empty casings from the chamber, and the incredible amount of feedback from the dualshock that it gave when one fired massive weapons with higher kickback and repercussions. The man vs. man touch is always a favorite and the bloody, graphic violence couldn't help but make it better.

If SNE would've know what they know now we'd be talking about KZ2 as if it were God of War 3 on the PS3. So don't let the haters and people that have never even turned on the game fool you. Killzone is an underground movement that enjoys heavy support from die-hards(me) and is picking up steam from the outside world (casuals, first-timers, yourself). If you'd like...pick up the first one....slam it in your PS2 and look for *drivn1 on the boards; that'd be me. Happy hunting. =]

This was the 1st thing that pissed me off over the PS3. This game is the only thing that can change how I feel. They need deliver on the promise that it will be better than the trailer or they will never see my $600.00 (HOLDING UP a STACK)

I have never been more skeptical of any one game. They better deliver because this will determine if I buy a system or not. Kill Zone 1 was not that great at all. They are hoping Kill Zone 2 will do better but I think they are playing Russian ruellet with this hype stuff.

Why is it only Killzone 2 and Motorstorm that have to be identical to their teaster trailers? Every other game can bring out a CGI trailer and no one expects that it is going to look like that. Have you seen the Tenchu tralier on XBL? Now go and download some gameplay footage and tell me if it came as close as Motorstorm did. Why are these 2 games judged by such a high benchmark?

And dont say because they tried to past off the trailers as game footage, we've all know for 2 years that they were CGI. If you haven't come to terms with that yet maybe therapy would have been a good idea.

I gaurantee when KZ2 is released it will be a good game but everyone will be saying "It doesn't live up to the hype."
Ummm, what hype? They haven't hyped anything, we haven't even seen one screen shot or any gameplay details. Everyone is just hyping it up themselves in their heads.

never played killzone.
but all this fuzz over a demo is just energy-wasting.

@bathyj
"Ummm, what hype? They haven't hyped anything, we haven't even seen one screen shot or any gameplay details. Everyone is just hyping it up themselves in their heads."

thats the main problem with "fanboys" just defending a game because its exclusive to their console.
and without thinking they just defend and defend until it turns into a hype, its kinda sad if you think about it that most of them who claim a game will be a [put game name here]killer, wont like the game them self because they were just defending their wife AKA the console they love so much.

According to many on neoGAF, there's absolutely no mention of this in EGM.

Guys, it comes from gamefaqs boards.

GAMEFAQS. BOARDS.

i think its cool to reword ps3 owners by putting the demo on the network and releasing a trailer for everybody else. For KillZone to compete with halo3 they need to make the online game play great because most people i know dont even play the halo single player. so they need to come out with a lot more options of online play something cool and creative like have u spawn as a spy on the opp. team and u can kill your own teammates for point and at some time u can show your true colors and help your OG team kill during strategic standoffs. That be cool.

We are probably going to have to wait for the new E3 to see Killzone 2 in action again i think.

As for it exceeding the previous one, i don`t think so, but it will be interesting to how close they`ve got. Aside from graphics, i think it`s obvious from the first game, that the focus should be on the gameplay. More variation, a steady fps, and a multiplayer that`s fun, both on-and offline (which the last one wasn`t) would be great this time around.

Any trailer or demo before that, would be welcomed in my book.

Q - When will we be able to finally play it? "

A - You'll be seeing it, rather than playing it, in early march. We've put together a surprise demo for the Psn and will be available soon.

Well now that you have told us it wont be a surprise again will it??

What would he know about KillZone 2 not coming this month or next month
oh thats right nothing cause he pretty much know's nothing period!.

nobody must like horse piss he can only put one comment

Better than the 'unbelieveable' trailer is a mighty big ask thats just a tad unrealistic, don't you think? Also producing a trailer, even if we are told it contains in game footage, is , at best unreliable.We need a playable demo on this before there's any certainty as to quality and graphics.Lets hope for the best, but be prepared for something a little less stellar, maybe.

If you doubt that you are hallucinating.

...if one reads between the lines we're left with: The e3 trailer 2 years ago was simply magical. But don't get too happy yet because all we've heard are excerpts from Phil and some rumours on the boards. Absolutely not one shred of evidence of how this game loods yet which personally bothers me, because I love KZI and need more material from this new rendition to really get me stoked. Now, I'm one of those that's probably going to love the game anyway, but -- My hopes for graphical magic are temepered with the forethought tha this game will meet about 85% of the target render this Spring (if put on the PS store) with maybe graphich reaching *90% of the target render by the time Halo3 drops. These people SNE/Gureilla have a lot to live up to at this point in time. The "ballgame" is theirs to lose as they say. Eithere they give it all they got and knock all competition and "must - have games " out of the ballpark or they settle for mediocrity in a sea of the "best FPS' that could've been."

With my feet grounded and my eyes looking toward the sky I can't help but wonder what this game could really be like if all aspects come together in KZII, *Imagine...... to have created one visceral, audio, and visual experience like no other -- only through the KZII game on PS3. That's the part where I tend to get dizzy, but I tarry....we don't even have a screenshot yet. *sigh*

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.

Killzone again pls 🥺

Gratz Guerilla, amazing Studio and engine, love Decima!

I was never a huge fan of Killzone, but thoroughly enjoy Horizon. Guerrilla are superb developer and easily up there with the best of the best.

Need a killzone 2 remake from the ground up.

One of the most creative studios out. I hope they keep it up.

Great studio, loved the Killzone series, I wish they would do a remake of the first three games. Horizon is a real step up and truly put Guerrilla Games on the map.

Too bad I never got a chance to play Shellshock: Nam’67 would have loved to try that game out back in the days to see what were their beginnings.

Bring back killzone (maybe in 3rd person perspective)

It would fantastic to see what they could do in Killzone after the lessons learned through Horizon.

Or heck, give us even a short linear FPS from the people who designed Cauldron THETA in the Burning Shores expansion. Even just flying into it (after gliding around and finding its opening amongst the lava and Sunwings perched around it, with other bigger machines just along the path toward it) was an incredible experience.

Great work until now. Keep on this path

Hope they get the opportunity to create a new IP this gen as well.

Forbidden West is awesome, It’s pretty damn big compared to Zero Dawn and it takes a little while to get your skills up and get the equipment you need to fully explore the game (not going to spoil it) but once you do those things and start fighting the big ass machines it really is amazing. Some cool side quests to where you hold the fate of peoples lives by your choice and the cauldrons look amazing. Lots of skills , combos, special moves and add ons for your weapons so you can approach fights many ways. Looking forward to the name game but I wonder how/if Silas will be a part of it or not ? Sad he’s gone.

Killzone games weren’t the best shooters but damn did they look purty!!!!

Killzone 2 remade with the multiplayer

20 years of mid-tier games and they are trending down.

I'm hyped for whenever Horizon 3 releases but Killzone 1 needs a remake BAD and 2 & 3 need remasters. Criminal those games are stuck on PS3.

Hold up

Horizon: Zero Dawn sold 24.3 million
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild sold 29.81 million

With the way journalists have been consistently saying BotW overshadowed Horizon you’d think the gap between an entry in a new IP and a longrunning one would be bigger Even if you want to include however much the Wii U version of BotW did, both series still did impressive numbers

I never want to hear that Horizon is an overlooked franchise ever again

i really loved the atmosphere and idea of killzone. i hope they revisit it at some point because it always had so much potential.

Bring Back Killzone please or at least a KZ2 remake with MP.