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ButtonMasher: Killzone 2 Review

After thinking about it more and more, Killzone is every bit the powerhouse that Sony needed it to be. ButtonMasher is sure that there will be people bagging it for various reasons, they have already pointed out that they were dissapointed by more than one aspect, but for what it does well, it does better than anyone else ever has.

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thereapersson6242d ago

I'm liking these "no score" reviews. They say what they need to say, and what the reviewer did and didn't like about the game; however, when the reader gets to the end, they are not tempted to make up an assumption based off a number. It actually forces you to read what the reviewer had to say, instead of skimming through and judging the game accordingly.

After all, scores are useless if you don't read the reasons why a reviewer gave out that score.

Timberland2K96242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

i dont like them either it makes them seem fake or unreliable

It could be a good thing though because it forces people to read instead of going crazy over the difference between 9.4 and 9.5

thereapersson6242d ago

Yeah, I agree. And really, I've seen some really DUMB people out there who say because the game didn't get a 9.5 on IGN (it got a 9.4), that it failed. What the hell is up with that sh1t? We're supposed to be gamers because we enjoy playing games, not reading and nitpicking over review scores...

ChampIDC6242d ago

Exactly why I generally don't care about review scores. I base my decisions by weighing the good and bad. Army of Two was one of my favorite games of last year, yet it certainly didn't get stellar reviews. People are far too obsessed with numbers and forget what games are really about. It's about what you enjoy playing, not what somebody else enjoys.

TheMART6242d ago

"Being so critical of the character development and script you might think playing through the game was a chore, allow me to clarify, the game is fun! The online has potential, the mechanics are all in place and the single player, while short (5.5 hours), is beautifully crafted. In terms of value for money there might not be the same immediate package that Resistance 2 offered, but I feel that the fluidity of the game play (should the fully functioning online game be lag free) has more promise than R2 has shown."

Again that 5.5 hours that Insidegamers.nl also said KZ2 is to play through. That's really to freaking short.

Graphics Whore6242d ago

They could have played it on Easy for all you know. Mart, take a break you psycho.

sinny6242d ago

Well, CoD Waw is shorter : 3 hours
CoD 4 lasts 5 hours max
And Gears of War is around 6 hours too
So... i find strange that some reviewers said that K2 is short because it last around 5 to 10 hours depending the difficulty you are playing and they didn't say nothing about those other games ( to name another big titles )

If you think that 5.5 hours is short for a FPS then you must play really bad.

ReTarDedFisHy6242d ago

You're really nitpicking aren't you? :/
Is it really necessary?
Some reviews say 6, some reviews say 10, some reviews say 8; people play games differently, that's a fact. What's not a fact is that "this game will definitely take you exactly 5.5 hours to beat" just because it took the reviewers that long. I, for one, on my first playthrough, play at a slow pace and on the hardest difficulty, and that lasts me a long time because I let myself get really into it. It's only on the second playthrough where I don't give jack sh*t about anything and play blazingly fast.

If there's a game with a short campaign, that's Call of Duty 4. But since it was so tightly packed and intense, it was very forgivable. If there's anything that this review is indicating to me, it's that Killzone 2 is just like that. With the inclusion of an apparently stellar multiplayer, Killzone 2 looks as if it's going to last as long as Call of Duty 4 did to me; a freakin' long time.

Don't forget them trophies, either.

thereapersson6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

Well I don't understand where people are getting that 5.5 hour estimate from, considering I've seen most sites that quote it as longer. Besides, Call of Duty 4 had a shorter campaign, and that game also had no co-op. Killzone 2 has better multiplayer than COD 4, plus a longer SP campaign, therefore it should at least score higher than COD 4 (which was the best shooter to come out since Halo 3).

You know how it goes with most reviewers. They don't even bother trying to find most of the hidden stuff in games, or trying to see everything there is to see. They usually just speed run through the game, trying to finish it as quick as possible. Hell, Fallout 3 can be beaten in under 15 hours if you don't do anything else but follow the main quest, but if you really want to enjoy the game, you can put well over 50 hours into it. I'm sure there will be relatively few people who will even come close to a completion time of 5.5 hours.

TheMART6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

I am saying this because I've heard so many Sony fans say that DL-DVD would make short stories. They complained about Gears which lasts longer in playing hours then KZ2.

So if they complained back then, it certainly is legit to complain now with the BluRay disc of 50GB. Guerilla/Sony should have made more use of space and make at least a 10 to 15 hour lasting game.

Not only that, its because I mainly only play online on Xbox Live because its a better service. I play about only Single Player on my PS3. Thus, that makes me having spend more then 10 Euro an hour on this game.

Which is pretty sad again, for the 50GB disc and said to have longer lasting games.

@ thereapersson

I had COD4 on my 360 with XBL and played online the most, although the SP was great.

KZ2 I'll be playing mostly only SP, because my online friendlist is on my 360. I hate the people not having a headset on PSN also. Difficult to communicate and have strategy together.

Thus I am judging this game on its SP.

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@ whore (below)

Dude, I took the 5.5 hour info from this review and Insidegamer.nl
I may not speak about this because? You know that censorship like this:

"Can we just take all of his bubbles already? It would be even better if Mods just banned him permanently however."

Has been used in the past by some people to silence other persons or groups. That hasn't been the best time in history dude. Dictators ain't fun. And you calling upon others to have people silenced that don't think the same as you and express their feelings about something is scary.

@ theraperson

I already own the PSeye with mic, but I guess I'll give it another try with a BT headset. I just ordered it with some new games online by the way and I might give KZ2 a try again.

Yes on XBL we have a way to communicate with the friends I am playing online with. Its ingame chat and cross game chat/invites we use. Which isn't working on PSN. You're right on the headset. Sony should include them with PS3's.

thereapersson6242d ago

Well, you can't fault people for hyping games up like that. However, I am one of the people who think that Blu-Ray doesn't necessarily have to mean a longer game. I think it's more for being able to store more uncompressed audio and other game assets on, as well as special features not found on a regular disc.

Hell, oblivion was a long game, and it fit on a DVD. It was just loaded with repeating assets and other such shortcuts. Besides, I wouldn't think a game like Killzone 2, which as you know is an FPS, to be a very lengthy experience. Have games that are actually warranted a lengthy experience, like RPG's, and you start to see more examples of what devs can do with the tech.

Graphics Whore6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

Lol Mart "I'm only gonna play Killzone SP".

Jesus it really doesn't get any more pathetic than you does it?

One or two websites out of 30 report 5 or so hour game-play lengths and you take this for truth. What about the other 30 websites? that report 8-12?

You really are an insufferable human being.

Can we just take all of his bubbles already? It would be even better if Mods just banned him permanently however.

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Mart I'm not playing Dictator, you're an idiot and N4G just doesn't need you. You've been preaching the same retarded angle for at least a couple years and no one wants to hear it anymore.

thereapersson6242d ago (Edited 6242d ago )

Well, it sounds like you're serious about online play, especially clan strategies and whatnot. I'm sure that if you were part of an online group, that you guys would all make sure you had some way of communicating with one another.

I've seen MP videos of Killzone 2 that had people working really well together as a team. I do agree that Sony needs to package a headset in with the system, though to be fair not having a ton of immature users with headsets can be a good thing:

http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...
http://www.youtube.com/watc...

@ TheMart

Yeah, the PS3 Bluetooth headset is really nice. I have one, and the audio quality is superb (better than my jabra I used to have). The PSEye is nice, but the microphone only works so well. I like having something right next to my head that I can mute any time I want when I don't want people hearing what I am saying.

I ordered Killzone 2, so maybe you and I will have to duke it out online when it is released?

edit:

Don't forget Mart, with the SP campaign comes trophies> I'm sure you wouldn't mind spending some extra time with the game to try to unlock some of them, right?

GVON6242d ago

You should start it on veteran mate,you write as if you've been gaming for years and have played plenty of FPS,and i'm confidant that on your first vet play through you'll take langer than 7.5 and anywhere up to 15 to see the credits.

personally anyone who's played countless FPS games online and off,then first plays it on normal and complains it's 5-6 hours long has no right to complain.they picked a difficulty that is aimed for players below there skill levels.

shawnsl656241d ago (Edited 6241d ago )

mart u want to hear your team's voice while playing? join a KZ2 clan/guild. I can see where you are getting at with the short single player gameplay, but it doesn't have a thing to do with blu-ray. The devs decides the story line and how much they want to put into it and that's it. I remember playing rpg games that lasted well over 70 hours in single player campaign, but the graphics of that game isn't anywhere near kz2's uncompressed graphic + 7.1 audio. If GG decides to give us a DLC which lengthens the single player experience, then that should satisfy people who thinks the game is too short for them.

no more n4g for me starting tomorrow.. don't want anyone to bring their spoilers to this game like they did with GeoW and R2 (through reviews).

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Marcus Fenix6242d ago

then people would actually read the reviews, great game no one can deny that, how's the days passing PS3 owners?, seem like months huh?

reaferfore206242d ago

It's been months.... now it's only days.... still seems like months though..

Timberland2K96242d ago

I've been freakin watching N4G.com like a mad man Literally 24/7

thereapersson6242d ago

It sucks, but considering I have all these other games to play, it's not so bad.

CrippleH6242d ago

Very true.

I got the same case with MGS4.

I got all these games to play- Uncharted, LBP, Gears 2, Gears 1, Halo 3, Resistance 2, MGS4, and etc.

Yet I don't want to play them because I'm tired of them (except Uncharted just beat crushing for the 5th time last week, taking a break).

Chris3996242d ago

That will definitely keep me occupied till the 27th.

(Well there is the demo on the 5th that I'm wickedly excited about.)

thereapersson6242d ago

I bought that game when it was released because of all the underground hype surrounding it, and then I never got around to finishing it. Sad, really, because it's a good game.

Danja6242d ago

same here still playing Valkyria Chronicles , had to put it on hold to attend to Persona 4 beat it like a week ago ,...

so should keep me occupied till KZ2 comes around

Blademask6242d ago

and im looking to KZ2 way more than my day of creation.

iHEARTboobs6241d ago

I'm also looking forward to Killzone 2 more than the day of your creation. haha

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Graphics Whore6242d ago

I admire their valiant effort to stay out of the generic 1-10 scoring range and while it doesn't go under-appreciated it doesn't help the meta-score. I know that seems superficial but it's true. Every score helps.

Timberland2K96242d ago

i only care about certain websites scores because there will be haters as we anticipate gamedailys.com 's 7/10 for bad voice acting they will say as well as short story and lack of originality.

That site doesn't do anything but bash everything but the xbox 360

CrippleH6242d ago

You know what's the lamest con I heard.

Lack of identity. I read one review that said that.
So Helghast, weapon feel, weighted character, a story with a history, the crazy environment, cover system for fps, and online is lack of identity?

ChampIDC6242d ago

Clearly it is! New ideas don't mean a unique identity. Where have you been?

Seriously though, the look of the Helghast is enough identity for me. I still have a poster of the first Killzone, which I never played, in my room because the dude looks so darn cool. Plus, the only other game I've seen that tried to do a FPS cover system was Medal of Honor Airborne, and that game was less than stellar, though I thought the cover system was pretty neat. It's good to see a FPS cover system in an actual good game.

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Why Guerrilla Games Shouldn't Abandon the Killzone Series

Hugely disappointingly, it seems that Guerrilla Games, developers of the Killzone and Horizon series, may be done with Killzone for good.

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IAMRealHooman499d ago

1 was fine, overhyped as a " halo" killer
2 was a graphical beast at the time, and felt heavy
3 was good a refinement of 2 but not much else. weird audio issues environment were to quiet
shadow fall was pretty but bland

OtterX499d ago (Edited 499d ago )

Shadowfall had great Multiplayer though. Too bad the campaign was meh at best. It did have the occasional great moment sprinkled in.

TheNamelessOne498d ago (Edited 498d ago )

I played through 2/3 multiple times. I played through the original once, but it felt pretty lukewarm for me. I couldn't be bothered to beat Shadow Fall. I got a couple hours in and just went "I'm done". Never touched it again. It was awesome on the tech side, being a launch title, but it didn't even match up to the first game when it came to actually having fun playing it.

Rude-ro498d ago

3 in 3d was an amazing experience to be had.
Although not many experienced it as intended for good reasons.

just_looken498d ago

You forgot the ai advancements on the playstation 2 killzone one you could have a full team of bots doing everything even playing the objective that was a big thing.

In killzone 2 they always flanked you and when available used the high ground.

Playing killzone 2 no hud 5.1 audio was/is awesome

MDTunkown499d ago

They should finish Horizon story first

darthv72499d ago

I dont mind if someone else takes up the mantle for the KZ franchise. We are several years removed from the first game. It certainly could use a remake to gauge interest in the rest of the series. I know it has its fans... Im thinking of how a proper reboot can rekindle that old dormant flame and bring in a new generation of fans in the process.

just_looken498d ago

You forgot killzone mercenaries on the ps vita but it was the worst selling sony game for awhile there.

Yui_Suzumiya498d ago

Yeah, a remake would be pretty awesome

anast498d ago

They should let it go or sell it. No use spending millions on this project.

LucasRuinedChildhood498d ago

Would like a new IP before Horizon 3. Just because games take so long to make these days.

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PlayStation 3 Games That Desperately Need a PS5 Remaster

The PlayStation 3 may not have been the strongest generation for Sony, but there were still some diamonds in the rough that deserve a revisit as PS5 remasters.

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OtterX728d ago (Edited 728d ago )

Even if they could just remaster and put on PSVR2, some would still look great as VR titles and could do a whole lot to bolster the headset w these exclusives! I'd imagine the investment of reworking these titles into VR would be way less than building new games from the ground up, and they could be amazing experiences, and VR often makes flat games feel fresh again. The Resistance and Killzone games are particularly what I want to see!!

Rude-ro727d ago

I played killzone 3 in 3d and it really changed the game per being immersive.
In vr, that would be even more awesome.

darthv72727d ago

Funny you mention that... my son wanted to play some PS3 games in 3d on my PS tv and he was blown away by how good KZ3 was. It really was a great addition to the game. Im surprised there have not been more 3d games from that era being ported to the PSVR/VR2.

_SilverHawk_727d ago

resistance 1-3, killzone 1-3, uncharted 1-3, uncharted golden abyss, folklore, socom 4 , motorstorm, twisted metal, MAG, heavenly sword

Cacabunga727d ago

Killzone 2+3
Sly Thieves in Time
Crack in Time
God of War Ascension
Motorstorm
Modnation racer
Infamous 1+2

Profchaos727d ago (Edited 727d ago )

Killzone trilogy in VR would be amazing bonus points if they offer shadow fall.

There was a psvr1 Killzone project that supermassive was working on at one stage which wasn't up to scratch and Sony brand it back in house I was hoping we would see that on psvr2 eventually.

Personally I'd love to see some more love or acknowledgement of psvr2 from Sony in general it was a expensive headset and Sony barely acknowledge it's existence

seanpitt23727d ago

The amount of work needed to remaster these games wouldn't be beneficial on a financial and business sense.. MGS4 would probably be the best bet as it would need the least amount of work!

Iceball2000728d ago

YEAAASSSSS! I miss this franchise and wanna play it so bad again.

Father__Merrin728d ago

The time is perfect for a resistance fall of man game campaign coop multiplayer

InUrFoxHole728d ago

The resistance series is str8 trash to me. Socom 3 I would welcome. Or killzone MP.

Marcus Fenix728d ago

A Resistance reboot will be awesome

Michiel1989727d ago

That's what Bungie should make, Ill keep saying it until it happens

1Victor728d ago (Edited 728d ago )

Resistance was ok but Warhawk and Starhawk was better and kept me coming back for almost a decade of fun and petty revenge on the loud mouth unskilled players 🤣
Edit I loved capture the flag dropping the pot on the flag carrier was extremely satisfying as well as transforming your plane in bot form and stumping them to death 😱

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Michiel1989727d ago

Resistance was the best co-op fps I ever played after L4D2

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20 Years of Guerrilla: The Story of a PlayStation Studio

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SullysCigar1032d ago

Up there with the top tier in the industry. Love Guerrilla Games - Horizon Burning Shores is simply STUNNING.

1Victor1032d ago

Can’t wait for their next franchise

SullysCigar1032d ago

Same. They nailed it with Horizon. The trouble is I also want a new Killzone! Can't I just have it all?!

jznrpg1031d ago

I’m with you I want Horizon 3 , Killzone and new IPs

badz1491031d ago

I have yet to play Burning Shores as I just started Forbidden West (bought at launch, just unwrapped last weekend LOL) and playing on PS5.

man...I still can't believe the graphics especially now I'm playing it on my LG OLED. that graphics and with stable performance backing it up, GG really is the master of their craft!

Vengeance11381032d ago

32.7M sales in the Horizon franchise! With 8.4M coming from Forbidden West alone! Truly a hugely successful game and franchise as a whole. Looking forward to Horizon III

Shane Kim1032d ago

That's kind of a huge drop though. It's only been two games.

VersusDMC1032d ago

One year after realease HZD sold 7.6 million.

https://www.noobfeed.com/ne...

So not a drop off.

Unless you're saying a HFW should have sold as much now as HZD sold in 5 years?

Vengeance11381032d ago

It's been 3 games, this includes Call of the Mountain. Also no, its a great improvement over HZD.

solideagle1032d ago

lol you are comparing:

HZD: 28 February 2017 - May 2023 (6 years+)

HFW: 18 February 2022 - May 2023 (1 year+)

We will see if it surpass original number.

Phoenix761032d ago

@shane, 2 full main games, 2 DLC add ons, 1 VR spin off game, oh and a an official LEGO set.
Not too bad for an ip that's only been on market for 6 years

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REDGUM1031d ago

Wow, very impressive. I didn't know the numbers were so high for Forbidden West. Still playing through it myself

thesoftware7301032d ago (Edited 1032d ago )

Yooo, when I first saw that Killzone 1 footage at E3, my friends my brothers and I were like, Holy shit! When it came out, it didn't look exactly like it, but we sunk so many hours into 1 & 2.

I even liked Killzone: SF, it was a spectacle to look at, and even today it looks good. I hope they make a new one. Can you imagine how that will look, and they can get some modern FPS pointers from Bungie.

blacktiger1031d ago

thank you fps lover, I'm with you

talocaca1032d ago

Such a wonderful studio. They deserve all their success.

The Decima Engine is absolute 🔥 I'm just mad they have abandoned Killzone.

OzzY-waZZy1032d ago (Edited 1032d ago )

Kinda wish they move on from Horizon tbh.

lukasmain1031d ago

They are probably working on mutiple projects. One of them is Horizon 3, but another is a multiplaer game and probably somehting else.

Imalwaysright1031d ago

There were rumours that they were working on a Socom reboot.

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