why the F$&K do people care? Its not your money.

A better question is will the ps3 still be in production in 2011. We already know they plan on releasing the ps4 in 2011 if they are even around that long. Sony took 99% lose this year so if they dont do something quick to turn it around they be filing for chapter 11

Quite amazing, 8 bubbles in a day??
How did you do it??

That's a biased website. I seen the kids YouTube videos. It's some black kid who thinks what he says is true.

Will that change anything? NO.

Nobody will ignore 40-50 mln. userbase by 2011, unless there are some reasons. Create game with KZ2 level graphics or make a BIG world on 1 Blu-ray disc. =)

Did anyone else read Fox01 and thats_just_prime? I really don't think I've seen ignorance on that level since...well...it's been quite some time.

You two do realize that the PS3 has sold faster than the 360, don't you? 17 million by the two year mark vs 13 million for the 360? Do you guys just don't know the PS3 has been catching on faster, or have you some how convinced yourselves that it's not happening?

That_just_prime. PS3 sales were up 40% last year on increased revenue. Software sales were up 57% this Christmas and they ended up tying the 360 for total sales for the year. Seriously, you must just not know the facts because if you know all this and still spouted that nonsense....well...there's no way else to put it, you'd just be full retard.

Seriously, what the hell is wrong with some people? You wonder why they bother posting at all. In their regular lives do they walk around with dunce caps on all day? Kick me signs? If not, then why would they do that online?

I guess if it sells 2 million MORE each year then yeah. But this is only 3 years away and both consoles sell well.

It might since the 720 will be out in November 2010 just in time for Gears 3, GTAV, Halo 4 and COD: Trenches of WWI. :)

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to the first poster, that was a very good question. M$ is so by the numbers they are ending support on XP in 2012. Look they are not about gaming as much as just suceeding at what they do BY ANY MEANS NECESSARY. PS3 will outsell Xbox maybe this year or next definitively. R3 next year and another game from that dev this year maybe another Ratchet or something else. They have proven first party devs that are now industry leaders in some regards at what they do. Santa Monica may have another game for this gen and may be able to use the GOW3 engine so Sony is poised with the necessary price cut to take over. M$ gave us a glimpse at what the next generation is all about. Sony will deliver the next generation of games that we will remember for years. Rockband, gears and Mass Effect are the standouts for M$ right now they have to get serious because Sony I think is hiding something more than Killzone 2.

Sony won't be filing chapter 11. They to large of a corporation. Just because they are losing profits in the Gaming Division, with the PS3, doesn't mean they will be going bankrupt. Not by a long shot.

@darkride66 - To be honest with you, I think, Sony is doing horrible with the PS3, even if they are moving at a faster pace than the x360. To be honest, I expected the PS3 to be in the Wii's shoes by now, not behind the pack. But, I hafta give props where it's due. They have done an excellent job with a console that sells at that price point.

This is a extremely biased site, forgive me if this is alreay mentioned but they say you can't count gears of war since micorsodt does not own Epic, yet there list of Sony Exclusives includes Metal Gear Solid 4 and last time I checked, Sony did not own Konami.

After crunching all the numbers, looking into my crystal ball, deciphering many tea leaves, and a ouija board or two the answer is a conclusive and decisive MAYHAP.

Y the hell would u think that PS3 should be in W!!'s shoes right now? it started at 700 bucks the we did 2 ? I really cant see how u think PS3 is doing horrible.

wow, you missed the point... and unfortunately you can't respond again.
how sad

never did i call you a fanboy or claim your bias (you're apparently paranoid)

what I was actually saying is that you need to realize that game development comes and goes all the time. it's not unusual for games to be cancelled.

If you're argument was that the PS3 caused these companies to fail because of their agreement with Sony, then you obviously have no idea how business works. These companies were in trouble before their deal with Sony, and actually Free Radical is currently making a wii game.

As for your game list. Again it comes down to business. I'm tired of people throwing these names around like it's a big deal. It's not, and it's tired.

EVERY title you have listed is from a 3rd party developer, and that's what they do, make multiplats. Forget what they did last Generation, they were working with an install base around 100 mil. Do you think that they will actually take a chance on either console this early? Not without money being thrown their way.

Shall I go through your list?

1) FF XIII (why are people still on this one? the first 6 games were released on Nintendo systems. FFXI was released to PC, as well as 360)
2) Tekken VI (ehhh, maybe i'll give you this, even though it's an arcade game and was once released on the GBA)
3) Monster Hunter 3 (Published by Capcom, previous titles were PS only. so I'll ok this one, kinda)
4) Star Ocean IV (Original came out on SNES, so hardly exclusive)
5) Street Fighter IV (are you serious with this one? past gens, Mega Drive, SNES, Saturn, Dreamcast, Xbox. Absolutely NO history of being exclusive.)
6) Assasin's Creed (made by Ubisoft, as far as I know, it was never planned as an exclusive. if you can provide a link otherwise, please do.)
7) GTAIV (original was also released onto the PC and GBcolor. GTA2 was also released on the Dreamcast. Hell even GTA3 came out on Xbox)
8) DMC4 (Capcom title. originals PS only)
9) Virtua Fighter 5 (originally came out for the Saturn, and 32x)
10) Beautiful Katamari (i'll give you this one)
11) Fatal Inertia (ok, this one too, but I believe it went multi because of problems with the unreal engine.)
12) L.A. Noire (funded intitially by SCEA, it has since dropped off the radar, so let's just ignore this one, 'mkay?)

Of your list, less than half have merit, sorry.

Did I ever say that any of the games mentioned were exclusive in previous iterations? Nope. All titles mentioned above were exclusive to the PS3. I didn't say Star Ocean 1. I said Star Ocean 4.`

"12) L.A. Noire (funded intitially by SCEA, it has since dropped off the radar, so let's just ignore this one, 'mkay?)"

lets ignore it? lulz. Seriously?.. This game has just as much credibility as all the others. And again, every title mentioned was a PS3 exclusive at one time.

1) FF XIII - Is not out yet
2) Tekken VI - Is not out yet
3) Monster Hunter 3 - Is not out yet
4) Star Ocean IV - Is not out yet
5) Street Fighter IV - Is not out yet
6) Assasin's Creed - Type in lost exclusives of the PS3 on Google.
7) GTAIV - Originally stated as a PS3 exclusive, was released on both.
8) DMC4 - Same as GTA IV
9) Virtua Fighter 5 - Virtua Fighter 5 was never released on those
10) Beautiful Katamari
11) Fatal Inertia
12) L.A. Noire - Just as credible as all of the others

Oh, and how can Free Radical be developing a game for the Wii if they are CANCELED? You know.. Kaput. Done. Out of Business. No Longer Existing.

It seems the entire list merits. Sorry.

You have got to try harder than that. Oh, and the only reason I stated something along the lines of you calling me a fanboy is because most of the silly PS3 fans on here DO call anyone a fanboy due to the fact that anything negative towards the PS3 is a lie.. as you are clearly trying to prove to me.

what you miss is that the titles were not exclusive before, and, though REPORTED exclusive initially, they were never ACTUALLY exclusive.

It's like me going out to dinner saying, i think i'm going to have steak, then I order surf & turf. It's not final till the contracts are written out and signed, no matter what the press release reads.
What you are explaining as "exclusives" they lost, is just fanboy hype and speculation.

If we can include L.A. Noire in the non-exclusive club, I say we put Alan Wake in the cancelled pile for the 360.

As for Free Radical,
http://www.destructoid.com/...
http://www.computerandvideo...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wik...

they are in "administration" which is like a type of bankruptcy

As for Ass. Creed http://www.gamespot.com/new...
"Reports on the Internet have been nothing less than rampant on the state of Ubisoft's Assassin's Creed. Initially mentioned for the Xbox 360 as Project Assassin and then mentioned only for the PlayStation 3 (without the word "exclusive") at E3 2006, the answer of the game's ultimate platform destinations have been as stealthy as its sneaky protagonist."

from the very beginning, it's status was in the air. hardly a "lost" exclusive

I can give you more links if needed

"Ubisoft's medieval stealth game will not be limited to Sony's upcoming system; will eventually reach PC, says publisher."

You proved my point from the headline of the article of the Assassin's Creed post. Notice anything 360 related? Nope.

Free Radical:

http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
http://www.joystiq.com/2008...
http://www.thisisnottingham...

The update on the link only solidifies my statement. Time Splitters IV (once a PS3 exclusive) has been confirmed as canceled. Same with Star Wars: Battlefront III. Even if Free Radical were not in cancellation, how could they be developing a game for the Wii if they were in Administration with no money whatsoever and are declaring bankruptcy?

"If we can include L.A. Noire in the non-exclusive club, I say we put Alan Wake in the canceled pile for the 360."

Alan Wake is showing many trailers. The newest one was posted in Oct. of 2008. It is now slated for a Q3-Q4 release in 2009.

(Again) Every game that was mentioned was exclusive to the PS3 and actually had plans of being released exclusively on the console. Every-one of them. Star Ocean FOUR. (not 1, 2, or 3), Final Fantasy THIRTEEN (Not 1-12), etc. For you to say that the latest iteration of a game is not exclusive because the previous installments were not is like me saying:

"Hey. This channel is showing reruns of my favorite TV show. But, this channel is showing an exclusive 2 hour movie of my favorite TV show. Oh but wait, it's not really exclusive because the TV show (not the movie) was shown on many different channels. So technically even though this TV show movie will only premiere on this channel and no other EVER AGAIN, it's not really exclusive."

Which is wrong.

And I'm sorry, but your analogy contradicts you from the very first title provided in the list of lost exclusives, Final Fantasy XIII. The game was only in development on the PS3 since before it's launch. The contract between Square Enix and Sony were already set. Microsoft most likely paid them for help in development (much like MSFT loaned Rockstar $50 million for development and exclusive DLC) so it could be released on both consoles.