Or acting like Sony can do no wrong. Right? Cause its not just Microsoft that can do no wrong right, cause other competitors in the same market can also do wrong...right, right....

I am sure you weren't trying to insinuate that xbox360achievements was defending Microsoft as he was clearly pointing out the errors with the title of the article and how it mis-represents the meaning of the article the author was trying to make...right, right, i am sure you weren't insinuating that right...right...

I never insinuated that Sony can never do any wrong nor any corporation. But the article still brought up good points IMO. I still think until this day that the $50million for GTAIV DLC could have been used towards a new game...perhaps towards Killer Instinct 3 or something of that nature.

first off. why are you so concern about the 50 million MS spent on exclusive content. is it because you don't have a 360 to get it? or maybe it the fact that it's not coming to the ps3? you don't have a 360 so i fail to see why you and other sony fans constantly keep complaining about it.

point is this guy is clearly looking for hits. because his rant involves more than just MS. but only uses MS in his title. when it's more companys involve then just them. you say we act like MS can do no wrong. yet you praise sony for everything they do. if theres a article about the 360 is doom,RRoD,disk read,ect. you and the rest of the SDF come runing to the thread to bash MS and the 360. yet if there an article about the ps3 is doom,YLoD,firmware crashes,ect. you are quick to defend it.

point is. if you like a game that much and want more out of it. then there is nothing wrong with DLC. if you don't like whats being offered then you don't. the only problem i have with DLC is if you have to buy the ending. but extending the life of your favorite game is agood thing. i sure if sony wants to extend the life of there exclusive(LBP,MGS4,Home,KZ2,R2 ,ect.) you are the rest of the people b!tchen in this post. would be the first one to buy it.

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you jst proved my point. you are b!tching for what. killer instinct3. what will that game make you run out and buy a 360? no it won't. so why does it concern you so much? answer NO it doesn't. you problem is the fact that the 360 is getting games that was once exclusive to your favorite company/system. now it's not anymore because they want to make more money. and you don't like that. because it takes sell away from the ps3. well too bad deal with it.

again if you don't like the DLC. then don't buy it. instend of hiding under the fact that MS spent money to make money (which all companys want) to get more people to buy games for their system. if you feel so strongly about DLC being a waste of money and time. then b!tch to sony about DLC for LBP,warhark,ect.

Excuse me for not saying that Killer Instinct was one of my favorite fighting games vega and I wish Microsoft would move their asses to work on Killer Instinct 3!

And if you hate the PS3 so much, then why do you waste your time attacking it?

Get over yourself, please do.

I know I don't own a 360. I don't need you or anyone else reiterating that. So what? Just because I don't have a 360, I can't hope for Microsoft for once in their lives work on a new IP? My brother owns a 360. I have played on it before. I actually knows what it looks like.

And another thing dear. I do not care for DLC. I have not wasted money on DLC. I play the game for what it is. The game is more than enough for me to enjoy it.

You just can't stand anyone criticizing Microsoft, that's your problem.

I think he can't stand hypocrites ultimolu...hypocrite.

...In case you haven't noticed, the reason why I haven't bought a 360 is because it's still riddled with defects! So I am a hypocrite for wanting to see a better console from Microsoft?

Oh deary me! :o

Please. -__-

I understand your point. However the $50 million i think was also to entise R* to develope the game for the 360 as well as exclusive DLC. Also how do we not know that KI2 is not in the works? As far as we know they could be doing some finial polishes as we speak and the game could be announced this year. You are just speculating that the game is not in development and that the $50 million could have went towards it.

just a question are you so poor that you have to say XBL sucks cause you have to pay for it. T_T its 26cents a day, you must be poor. that turns out to little over 1 cent a hour. cheaper then a phone call. about 1/25 of a text yet people still do use them. so stop trying to justify crap no one cares that you hate microsoft, i for one am tired of all you trolls, you sony fanboys try to act all nobal and then you come out and say this, and then when its comes back to bite you in the ass, you spin everyword you say. i guess that term crazy x-gf should apply for sony and its fanboys.
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No.
Because I can buy a game for that price for the sub of Live and most the games on my 360 to take online play the same on PSN.
If I went secondhand, heck, I could buy two games varied priced secondhand games for that price.
Besides where else do you have charged online games except don't bring up the whole MMO arguement, because thats a constant developing service and you are essentially paying to keep the game online AND keep the game being built up so you can continue playing it.

As an owner of a XBOX and 360 I saw first party developers with a good history closed down by their parent company for what appeared to be no apparent reason (keeping the companies established IPs) and then you had XBL which the fee was potentially enough to keep them open, so where was the/is the XBL money going? Certainly not the devs.

yes just like XBL you are paying to keep that network open. PSN can shutdown your server at anytime. MGS3 online. Toca 3, monster hunter, all shutdown. why they are free online. networks get shutdown for when its free. tell me what games on the xbox have been shutdown. even xbox 1 games are still online, why we pay for ours, ours keeps evovling. PSN evolved they took some away because they couldn't afford it. Free does not mean better. tell me how are you going to spin this. since i just gave facts. you are probably going to say. but but but free.
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How do YOU know that PSN WILL close down servers for PSN?

They probably won't due to using the same structure for PS4 ala XBL and the old PS2 online service wasn't even worldwide, due to online gaming not being 'that big of a deal' and MS did shut down servers on XBOX only to reopen them on 360 to my knowledge and some of those which aren't BC either patched or XBOX Originals are still closed.

Stop ignoring the fact many a server on PC is still open and playable, despite being a number of years and XBL is charging you for hosting games roughly the price of a retail game. I refused to pay to play online then on the XBOX and I will continue refuse to pay to play online NOW.
Keep on believing in the money is going into 'evolving' XBL, you got avatars (which are on silver anyway), photosharing, a gameshow?!? viewing a service you need to be subscribed to on a PC anyway to watch movies ADDED ONTO the XBL Gold charge if you want to play online and a party system to tag along with your mates in games, which is the best thing newly introduced.

Back on subject.
Anyway, this is about DLC. MS need less annoying DLC offers making developers hypocrites to a majority of their audience and more actual funded FIRST PARTY or published projects and new IPs.
Due to the focus on third party going multiplat, DLC is left if MS can't be bothered spending credit and over-watching games, its the HARSH TRUTH because so far. 2 already annunced exclusive games are getting bought on the 360 this year, over the total of about 5 ALREADY ANNOUNCED games for PS3, and some that take the advantage of the free online features of PSN. At the end of this year, PS3 will have a bigger library due to a combo of multiplats and those STILL EXISTING first party.
Where do you think MS will suddenly get more brand new exclusive IPs from reknowned developers since most of them have already signed up their next games to multiplat and third party devs?
Alan Wake is good step. But is there more?...who is left? Who that isn't inhouse wants to risk MS owning the future of their IP and only having a share of the console playing public? Who?

Feel free to prove me wrong later this year WHEN I'm wrong.

yep servers on PC sure are free. you have people online who host those servers they pay for them 50 - 200+$ a month (pending on server size and transfer rate in that month.), so in the end PC is more expensive, or you can just buy a Sever pc for about 800$. >.> see where i get you. you try and bash the 360 for charging 8 bucks a month of 50$ a year. you can't pick and choose, cover it all. with what your saying is, that every country but the US are full of fools, because they pay taxes but are not allowed freedom of speech.

BTW did you know the 360 has about 30 exlcusives this year. yea. and the ps3 has about 18. so tell me again, how is the ps3 library goning to be bigger. oh wait i forgot. ps2 games count for the SDF.
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Oh, I see, spin, there. You took my 'PC gaming comparison' and attached it to the PUBLIC servers, instead of the actual, Gamespy/Valve/Publisher specific servers which are still globally open in the majority of the cases paid by advertising or other methods EXCLUDING the public giving out cost...

Does that divert the fact that most the online play enabled games are for free on PSN, and that by buying the PS3 I have ALREADY paid the equivelent of 3 years XBL Yearly subscriptions due to the cost of my console right from the box and never need to worry about my 'online gaming credit' ever again for the remainder of the lifecycle and got more for hardware and the standard of it, the equivelent of a play and charge kit for free, the ability to change my HDD with a cheap HDD if I have started to fill it and a fairly physical media device included the overall price of the system?

Hate to be rambling on and essentially derailling this thread's subject but;
'Got what I paid for.

Instruct me on these 30 exclusive 360 games, I bet you half of them are averagely developed PC ports from lazy and unheard of devs like the case was at the tragic end of the XBOX's lifecycle.
The quality multiplat titles will make the overall PS3's library bigger by the end of this year couple with the great inhouse devs (still open!) making exclusives. I didn't say PS3 library bigger than the 360, I said, bigger than the 360, THIS YEAR.

yea so did i a gaming machine, you paid for a home media entertainment system. my laptop will cost about the same, and i can do more with it. so whats your point. hmmm. mine was built for games, your was built for movies and games that only sony can make.

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yes finding good games is hard this gen, this gen on both systems has been rather disapointing compared to last gen with Ps2 and Xbox great games.
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Yep and I like it that way. Coincidence; my 360 was built for games too, just the fact of finding ones I like.

It needs to stop period. That's the point of the article. But wouldn't you say that Microsoft has been abusing the DLC a little too much?

And the situation with LBP was a bit different because LBP is exclusively on the PS3. I don't see why you felt the need to drag it into the discussion.