That is ridiculous lol it’s not even close. Sony doesn’t even put games in day one. Say what you want about Microsoft and there is plenty to say, but subscription service wise it isn’t even close. Devs can say what they want but like I’ve said I played 9000 bucks worth of games for roughly 1000 bucks. It’s incredible value whether you like it or not.

Fake news. It all depends on what you prefer. Gamepass has the better value. It has a more diverse library of games. With day one releases. A wider range of platforms with PC and cloud streaming. Both services offer cloud streaming but PS plus premium requires the premium tier while Gamepass Ultimate includes cloud streaming.
To sum it up. If you want day one releases and a vast library of games that include xbox exclusives gamepass is the better choice. If you want playstation exclusives then go with psplus , but keep in mind you may have to wait a substantial amount of time to get them because their releases are limited. Imo gamepass has the better value for the money. Hands down.

Game Pass is obviously great for the consumer.

Of course.

But it's not sustainable for Xbox as business.

How many more Xbox exclusives have to come to PlayStation and how many more studios does Microsoft have to shut down and developers let go before people realize this?

Not to mention the price increase to $80.

No legitimate subscriber growth and no pricing increases for Game Pass.

Something's gotta give eventually.

That’s big cap right there.

I have PS Plus and never use it, yet I’ve recently purchased both Doom and Indiana Jones.

I’m no XBOX fan but for consumers there is no comparing the two services. Don’t care what the devs think.

Mmmmmmmmmmmnah

People. It’s asking which is better for the INDUSTRY. PS Plus is undoubtedly better than Gamespass for the industry. 1-2 year old games that have already been through sales and markdowns to finally show up on PSP Extra which gives MORE potential revenue to games that have essentially finished their sales cycle. It does not teach consumers to NOT buy games and therefore has no real negatives outside of the die hard hold outs. Day one games are a treat. Not the norm.

Gamespass, I know because I do it myself, teaches you to NOT buy the big titles BECAUSE of day one games. They bought Call of duty for example, something they were already getting, for Gamespass. To cause people to subscribe. They bought several big companies just to bolster Gamespass. It is NOT causing a massive influx of subs and that money has to be made up from somewhere… (Job cuts anyone? And before anyone says Sony cut jobs too… in the past 5 years Microsoft’s gaming division alone has cut about 15,000 jobs. Sonys PlayStation division has cut about 1,500. Look it up.) They are literally hemorrhaging money trying to get Gamespass to take off, and at the same time driving companies they’ve bought into the ground. Displacing a record setting amount of workers all so you can play day one games.
To the short sighted consumer, Gamespass is awesome. Don’t make much money? Pay the sub and don’t buy games!
To the gamers out there that have been gaming for years… we have seen a LOT of changes. This not buying games mindset threatens gaming as a whole.

We grade Nintendo on a curve. "Great machine, if it released a decade ago", lol. Don't get offended Nintendo fans at least they're fully focused on their paying customers, can't say that about Sony these days.

Ok, it's better for Devs, but which is better for consumers? I know which one is best for me, and at the end of the day that's what matters for us consumers, which one is best for the consumer.

How is this news? Do we have any proof? All we’re seeing is a debate among developers—some believe Game Pass is bad, while others believe it’s good.

The title should reflect that nuance, something like: 'Some developers split on whether Game Pass is beneficial or harmful.

It's the best value in gaming without cheapening the experience.

I mean they’re the same . Only difference is that one is less focused on day 1 releases which should be the way to go if you want everybody to make money and eat at the end of the day . When a game is older sure you can drop it for free on the service to make it more accessible to a wider audience like Sony is doing . But why would any gamer that’s been accustomed to getting everything for free on gamepass and Xbox start paying for games when you’ve been telling them everything is free day one ? It’s only “ good “ for your brand because you’re trying to keep everybody in your ecosystem but the reality is that no money is being made . Everybody else loses .

I like both, but I don't think Gamepass is sustainable in the long run, and I do think MS will make changes as they slowly scale down on spending.

The Gamepass model, is similar to the drug dealer, "the first one is free". Make it so cheap in the first run, then once they have a domination/corner the market, up goes the pricing. In the end you will be screaming at how much the cost is.

Why are we, as gamers, taking articles like this seriously?

There is no one size fits all in any aspect of life. The developers that choose to put their games on a subscription service do so because they see a benefit. No one is forcing them to do so, and not all games will benefit from being placed on a subscription service.

This finger pointing is a waste of energy. The negative press we are seeing against Game Pass is a consequence of the layoffs, studio shutdowns, and project cancellations that Xbox had recently, but this has nothing to do with Game Pass. It is profitable.

Put the blame where it needs to be, and that is Microsoft's culture of not making an effort to provide long term and safe employment for their employees, despite their gaming division bringing in $5.7B in the first 3 months of this year. Attacking something else is just a distraction and will not solve the problem.

@Deathdeliverer

Your entire post is mostly just gibberish. First off Netflix didn't cause more people to not buy movies. It made more people say no to cable TV because Netflix offers value. So your fact that it caused people to not buy movies is not backed up by any evidence. People stopped buying movies long before Netflix came.

But Netflix does saves you money. Just like gamepass saves you money if you choose to go that route. I only used netflix as an example of giving people value for their money. Most people will go for the best value.

The reason you gave for psplus being better for the industry is total BS. If this was in the 80s or 90s I would agree. The game industry has changed. Games dont 2 or 3 million to make anymore. Selling a few million or even 10 million doesnt cut it the way it was befire. And its not Ijust about the games. Its about reaching your fans and supplying them with steady content. That is mocrosofts strategy. See the problem here is that you guys thinks what right and good for Sony then everyone else should follow along. Sure their are developers that don't like the gamespass model but there are also those that do like it or else they wouldn't put their games on the service. Or is it you people think Microsoft is petting a gun to their head and making them do the deal.

And stop with all this caring so much about the studios. All this concern about studios is mostly fake. Sony shut down studios but you guys are acting like you care about microsoft studios more than the playstation ones. Sony shut down studios and canceled games microsoft does it and other publishers do too. We don't like it but it's a harsh reality of the industry. Its going to happen again and again. Gamers bitch about it but guess what. Do they stop playing Playstation and Xbox? No. They move on. So stop all this baffonery about why ms is bad for the industry but Sony does similar things and they get a pass. Its like you people get amnesia as soon as there is negative xbox news. Guess what the bottom line is what they care about the most. They don't need anyone's permission to do what they want. Did sony send out personal emails to gamers before they closed studios and cancelled games? No. They did it because they have a business to run. So people should stop worrying about shit they cannot change or control. Microsoft is gonna do what they want with their Xbox business. They sure as he'll don't care about what playstation gamers think they should do. And as a playstion fan why would would you care if you dont even invest in the Xbox ecosystem anyway. And if gamepass is so bad why is their a psplus? Its both the same shit with a little different strategies. If gamepass is bad for the industry then psplus is bad for the industry.

Tell me again how the multiplatform strategy was supposed to fix everything. Look at your results and compare them to Nintendo, which keeps thriving with exclusives. Your loyal fans are gone. And let’s not forget the pile of IPs you purchased only to let them rot.

The worst thing is this is down from last years numbers/expectations which was down from the previous years numbers/expectations. You think about how long “down” has been a consistent part of the communication and you realize those subscriptions are what’s holding that boat together. The price cut of gamespass is still a price raise in a string of price raises. They are trying to use players to offset the missing revenue. Now call of duty is out of gamespass, which is literally WHY they bought the company. To draw people to the subscription. They realized they missed a boatload of money and that wasn’t sustainable. Now you pay for it like you would have if they never bought the company… so why buy the company? Mind you those billions still need to be paid back. Yeah it gives you a chance to say we make the biggest FPS… but the internal conversations must be brutal at high level on topics that really matter. Like revenue. Profitability. And ROI for the shopping spree.

Is this like the 10th quarter in a row they're down 33% on hardware how is that even mathematically possible. You would think their mediocrity would Plateau