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I’m Not Convinced That Xbox Should Release a Handheld

The Outerhaven says: A rumor that is now a possibility, Xbox could be working on a handheld in a few years, but our gaming and tech reporter isn't convinced that an Xbox handheld device should become a thing.

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Obscure_Observer467d ago

When Nintendo announced the Switch, lots of people predicted doom and gloom for the company (especially after the Wii U).

When VALVE announced the STEAM Deck, lots of people predicted doom and gloom for the company (especially after the STEAM Machines failed project).

Now it´s MS turn.

IAMRealHooman467d ago

IF MS is gonna publish more of their first party for the others ( specifically the switch 2) even less of incentive for an MS handheld. switch 2 will have a solid install base by then with the access to Nintendo's library and "select" Xbox titles, might aswell just be a fulltime publisher now.

neutralgamer1992467d ago

Phil has said he does not care for platforms he wants their games to be playable on as many devices as possible. Please understand that and stop comparing Xbox to other platforms. Gamers should be celebrating the fact MS are allowing us the ability to play their games on our device of choice. Instead some are taking victory laps of some sort

Knushwood Butt467d ago

^

So MS want to sell their games on Switch 2, either directly or via gamepass, but they also want to develop and sell their own handheld to do the EXACT same thing?

VenomUK467d ago

Let's jump ahead two years to summer 2027.

Microsoft releases its sleek new Xbox handheld console with more power than an Xbox Series S that can play all legacy Xbox games and new Xbox games in handheld mode. Valve releases the Steam Deck 2 and it can play all Steam games. Which would be the most compelling to the mass market?

Xbox is a console platform that the general public recognise (although in 2027 its value may have diminished), so producing a handheld that only plays bespoke Xbox games will not compare favourably to the Steam Deck 2 that plays all PC games and PlayStation PC games. So what are Microsoft's options?
Option 1: just play Xbox games.
Option 2: Play Xbox and PC/ Steam Deck games which means having publishers build a version of a game for a platform where the users may choose the Steam Deck version.
Option 3: Only play PC/Steam Deck games.

Obscure_Observer466d ago (Edited 466d ago )

"IF MS is gonna publish more of their first party for the others ( specifically the switch 2) even less of incentive for an MS handheld."

True. Same goes for their next gen Xbox console. But that´s MS for ya. Money over brand identity.

@Knushwood Butt

"So MS want to sell their games on Switch 2, either directly or via gamepass, but they also want to develop and sell their own handheld to do the EXACT same thing?"

I believe it´s gonna be a couple of selected titles on the Switch 2. Plus, I believe MS to deliver a more powerful/advanced device.

But all remains to be seen.

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rudero467d ago

Not at all.
How would the steam deck doom steam?
Even though they sold less than 1% compared to their install base of active users, steam just prints money off of steam.
They can and have just threw stuff at the wall because they can.

Nintendo has a games issue but even then, they sell nothing at a loss. Ever.
Sure there was a fan base that have and do hope Nintendo would release a competing console in the range of a current Xbox or PlayStation… but they never will.
Handhelds have been their bread and butter for well over a decade…
It only made sense to make their console THE handheld.

Microsoft does not make games or have anything to do with innovation… per hardware or game development.
So why make a handheld?
They have not made anything to even warrant their console.

RaiderNation467d ago

Christ, dude! Do you have some kind of alarm in your house that notifies you when a new Xbox-related article posts in here? You are ALWAYS the first responder to these articles!

pwnmaster3000467d ago

Nintendo already dominated the handheld business, what are you talking about?

chrisx467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

N4G should really implement a block button. There's just some people's comments that turns me off from coming to this site, like this obscure guy. Its sad seeing this deluded comments on every single post

ABizzel1467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

That’s not true at all about the Switch. The general consensus of the Switch was that it would at worst do similar number to the 3DS (70m - 75m), and at best similar number to the Wii (+100m). Nintendo’s handhelds had ALWAYS outsold their consoles in the same generation, with the Wii being the only console to ever outsell any of the handhelds at all, and that was the blue ocean strategy.

People didn’t think the SteamDeck was a bad idea, the issue with that was the vocal minority screaming about high-end specs as if that’s what the majority of PC gamers own, which is a far cry from the truth. The concern was Valve isn’t a hardware company and as you said people didn’t want a SteamMachine 2.0. There wasn’t doom and gloom, people were just cautiously optimistic. The doom / gloom you speak of was people assuming Steam Deck would do Nintendo numbers, which was unlikely to happen as it was supposed to be an accompanying device for PC gamers and possibly console gamers who don’t want to dive into a full PC market which was a niche audience.

The issue now is that there are way too many players in this space that Microsoft and even Sony (who already attempted this) have to face to win people over. The Xbox consoles are losing ground generation after generation, and a handheld isn’t really a fix in the eyes of many, especially when you can already GamePass everything on existing handhelds PCs.

The problem with these handhelds for Sony and Microsoft is there has to be a hard choice made.

1. Entry price, $199 - $299
Or
2. Peak Performance, $399 - $599

Entry Price $199 - $299 gets you lower-end mobile hardware, which has come a long way and fine for streaming GamePass, but native Series games are going to be a struggle porting, or you can get a Series S.

Peak Performance, $399 - $599 get you dedicated hardware around the Xbox Series S performance (much higher with FSR4), but the Series X is still going to be more powerful and $399.

So who are these products for, especially Microsoft when there are already devices out now that do likely +90% of what a Xbox handheld would do, and +80% of what a PlayStation tablet would do?

There’s nothing wrong with them doing this, I just don’t see the market being there for it to be an extremely successful platforms, at best I see the handhelds doing around 1/3 of their console sales as a way to take your consoles on the go, as long as it’s completely seamless.

andy85467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

Yes but Nintendo had proven success of them, Xbox hasn't and are releasing one in their worst period in 20 years. That's likely the difference

ThePacemaker467d ago

Why would a sane person buy the Xbox handheld, if Switch 2 is going to have all Nintendo exclusives, a full third party support & a strong Xbox studios support (as per Phil Spencer)?

PapaBop466d ago (Edited 466d ago )

Well there is a key difference between Nintendo, Valve and Microsoft, two of them are extremely successful with decades under their belt of successes in gaming, the other bought some brief success but has been on a downward spiral for over a decade. Two of the brands dominate their respective market segments, the other is scrambling to remain relevant. Guess which ones are which.

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darthv72467d ago

Technically.... they already did. People dont realize the Logitech G-Cloud is an officially licensed product and was promoted on the Xbox website.

https://www.xbox.com/en-US/...

Problem is, that was still not their own product. So they are looking at doing something more in house.

RaidenBlack467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

But I dont want the handheld SKU to share with Xbox Prime, a la Series S with X.
Dont want another weak hardware dragging the next generation. Series X is pretty powerful but the Series S hardware limited its prowess. The 'sliders' theory didn't pan out well, so for a tablet that'd even be worse. Another generation spanning the likes of 4TF to 16TF would be dumb.
Let the handheld be part of Series x|s family, so that if devs require a next-gen game design centred around 20TF+ , the weaker handheld + current gen consoles can be ignored i.e pure next-gen game, not a cross-gen-tablet-compatible game.

darthv72467d ago

It was a good idea... having a low cost point of entry and a high end enthusiast system to cover both sides. I get that the enthusiasts feel like the peasants are holding them back, but that isnt how it works. you say slider dont work, i say they do. i have not seen any game that could not run on the S because of its specs, and that includes things like BMW which has been tested to run on the S. This narrative is all played out. The era of having to cater to the lowest common denominator is not new, its been like that since the VCS. we are a long way from the days of only needing the latest and greatest to play the newest. People can play the newest on a much wider range of options now. Nobody should be mad at having more ways to play.

RaidenBlack467d ago (Edited 467d ago )

@dsrthv72
"i have not seen any game that could not run on the S because of its specs"
That's the thing Darth.
Since 2019, the devs knew the specs of the current gen. They knew that in order for their games to run on wide variety of platforms, they had to keep the 4TF Series S' specs in mind and had to accordingly design their games in order to maximize sales. Couple that with the sudden pandemic plus cross-gen dragging on, the design stayed somewhat last-gen, minimizing any risk.
And the cross-gen mentality will continue with the mid-gen introduction of Switch 2, since its as powerful as PS4 and maybe upto One X with DLSS. And publisher will support Switch 2 widely for first ~2 years due to Nintendo's big fanbase.
So to conclude. The theoretical next-gen revolutionary game design promised for this gen? Yea, that might happen only in pure next-gen only h/w. Anything that can be on PS5/XSX is just last gen with RT and higher poly count.
I didn't mind Series S this gen but dont want a repeat.
If you want to force a ~4TF handheld with the 22TF+ consoles .... well it'll be just current-gen 2.0 or last-gen 3.0.
Just give it a thought. I am against MS leaving console h/w market but I dont want MS-Switch forced with XboxPrime/PS6/RTX6090.

D2niceforu467d ago

Well yes but they are looking for a more streamlined native companion. Just think about gamepasss, cloud, mobile and more.

Popsicle467d ago

The corporate speak. Is this an advertisement? 🤮

SimpleDad467d ago

I think Handhelds should be as much open as possible, meaning you should install on them what you want.
From retro games to modern titles as the hardware goes.

Having another closed handheld is not appealing to me... at all.
Maybe because I'm not into Xbox ecosystem... but who would be, giving the fact that every screen is an Xbox at this point.

Inverno467d ago

Only benefit would be a less bloated and compact windows. Which would be very beneficial actually for those who mostly game on PC or is tired of how sluggish windows be with all the AI spyware.

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Yet another "article" based on a copium post from reddit...

jznrpg57d ago

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