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December 2008 NPD sales data

PlayStation 2 410K
PlayStation 3 726K
PlayStation Portable 1.02 million
Xbox 360 1.44 million
Nintendo Wii 2.15 million
Nintendo DS 3.04 million

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Premonition6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

Not to bad for sony but now its time for that price drop, and hopefully it comes around spring as rumored.

EDIT: Whats there to spin about? Where did i spin in my comment? I actually thought numbers would be lower for PS3 because of November but 700k+ isnt that bad but not the best and thats why I think its time for sony to finally slash the price.

Kevin McCallister6367d ago

Agreed. I really thought the 360 sales lead would be much larger than it was.

ViRaL-6367d ago

seems about right considering the 360 its half the price

fishd6367d ago

2008
VS
2007

PS3=3,545,000
PS3=2,554,800
+1,000,000

360= 4,619,100
360 =4,669,000
+50,000

Raptors6367d ago

Wow, seriously who cares so much about sales? Quality games are out on all three systems....well two systems at least. Why are you guys so hung up on sales so hardcore for? You guys are either spinning numbers to minimize losing or bragging about a win? WHO CARES. I want Alan Wake, I want Killzone, I want Gran Turismo, I want Halo Wars. I hope you guys are getting paid by Sony and MS by how hardcore you guys are defending these guys...

ReBurn6367d ago

PS3=3,545,000
PS3=2,554,800
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PS3=6,099,800

360=4,619,100
360=4,669,000
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360=9,288,100

9,288,100
-6,099,800
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3,188,300

Fun with math.

oohWii6367d ago

You PS3 fans crack me up. The minute the 360 starts kicking the PS3 in the @$$ you guys start comparing Sony vs Microsoft so that you can add PSP and PS2 sells to the PS3 numbers. If that doesn't work you then start whining about the 360 costing 1/2 the price of the PS3 and riding that horse for a while.

Here's the funny thing, out of all the people I know that bought a 360 this year 90 percent of them bought the Pro (299.00) system and not the arcade. Additionally, why wouldn't the PS3 be more expensive than the 360, let your guys tell it, it such a great value with bluray, 80 gig, and MSG4 it's actually a steal at 399.00 right? Why does it need a price cut, is it because it's not worth 399 or is it because it can't compete with the 360 while priced at 399. Because if it's worth 399 then perhaps you should stop trying to compete with the 360 and accept the PS3 for what it is and enjoy the sells that you are getting.

Ferrari's aren't doing price cuts because ford mustangs are selling more.

You guys need to make up your mind what your argument is going to be and stick with it. All of this waffling and flip flopping is pretty ridiculous. All year the PS3 (until the last quarter) was outselling the 360, you guys were talking sh!t and seemed to be content, now all of a sudden spin, spin, spin. Although, I think you can combine the first six months of ps3 sales over the 360(in the us) and they would be trumped by the 360 sales over the PS3 in December alone.

Anyway, I just wanted to tell you guys how pathetic and desperate you all look.

Kevin McCallister6367d ago

What's up with all the "Lulz, spin, spin, spin" accusations? Some people, including myself, simply believed the 360 would outsell the PS3 by a larger margin. Nothing more, nothing less. I was thinking it would be around 3:1 360:PS3 and that the Wii would break 3 million units due to earlier analyst reports.

masterg6367d ago

Here is my prediction.

The $299 PS3 and the $150 360 will both outsell the Wii next Xmas.
Agree?

N4360G6367d ago

Not bad SONY.I expect higher PS3 sales in 2009.

Jazz41086366d ago

You also need to remember the 360 has only one model that sells for 1/2 the price of the ps3 and its not there best selling model the Pro is at 299.00, and remember for most of the year it sold at 399.00.

artsaber6366d ago (Edited 6366d ago )

It is funny that you mention spin, Ferraris and Ford Mustangs. Last time I checked both of those companies make more than ONE product, which contributes to their success. Since NPD numbers is all about finances and is directly related. Would you discount the PS2, PSP, and DS from the list? The first rule of business is never put all your eggs in one basket. Which is what Microsoft has done. Sony and Nintendo have multiple products to sell, and therefore are more likely to benefit financially, even in a month where one is not performing as expected. It brings balance to the force.

You said, and I quote: "All year the PS3 (until the last quarter) was outselling the 360, you guys were talking sh!t and seemed to be content, now all of a sudden spin, spin, spin."

But you forgot to add that the difference between the two quarters is the price cut for the 360, which inflated the sales, but profits took a big hit overall. And with no other product to sell, there is no financial parachute to make up for that loss in their gaming division. Now we could say that MS got help from Vista sells, but I would be willing to bet that they sold more 360s than Vista licenses.

If the Wii sales dip a month, and they sold 200k more DS units, then open another bottle of champagne. If PS3 sales dip one month, but PSP sales gain, and PS2s still sale(which are now all but PURE profit by the way) open another bottle of champagne. Things are not as grim for Sony as many would try and paint them to be. That is due to the strength of multiple QUALITY products on the market. Not to mention owning the top music entertainment and movies.

We won't even include the exponential spike of Bluray and HDTV sales this year (which Sony has huge stock in both of those markets) I conclude that Nintendo and Sony did very well this year, not so sure about Microsoft, all I know is that they need to get Windows7 out FAST! When is the last time you saw someone buy a copy of Windows Vista?

These are companies, these are businesses... NPD is related to those things, multiple divisions in those entities are relevant.

Nintendo is doing great, Sony is doing great (gotta love Bluray), Microsoft is doing ok, but after so many stupid business decisions that will plague the future of the company, I wonder how long Microsoft will refuse to use Bluray technology due to stubborness and embarrasment. Worst business decision IMO for Microsoft(besides outsourcing the design and engineering of the 360's inerts to a pack of silverback gorillas) is the refusal to partner with Bluray when they had the opportunity. Worst business decision for Sony, refusing to cut the PS3's price and not having an ironclad clause in game development contracts that prohibit any third party the ability to pay a lump sum resulting in interference with Sony's gaming business. (Final Fantasy come to mind? The fact that MS could buy out Square Enix when Sony already has a binding contract to develop a game is an embarrasment to them, Sony needs new lawyers, and good ones.)

P.S. I would've liked to thrown in the Zune as a benefit to Microsoft, because unlike the 360, it is excellent hardware. But word on the street is, expect it to "XBoxed" soon, meaning that Microsoft is pulling the plug on it. MS has no tolerance for products that have no immediate profit, they lack the understanding of "building up" hardware in the market.

Before anyone assumes I am a fanboy, I own a PS3, 360, Wii, PSP, DS, Gamecube, PS2, (gave away my Xbox to my brother), and the latest games I have been playing is CODWAR on 360 with co-workers, and NeoGeo classic games like Marvel VS Capcom, etc. Good luck to all gamers and gaming companies, competition is good, because of competiton... we will have Killzone2.

na2ru16366d ago

Maybe they're happy with the return they're recieving already with the amount of consoles they're selling. It STILL has an "early adopt" price point and the amount they sold is sure to give them a nice return, an equivalent to the amount of 360's sold.

I haven't been following the numbers of recent months, but I'm assuming the PS3 numbers have been level and steady. And if it continues, and Sony is happy with the return, then I don't know when we can expect a price cut. Only unless the sales collapse majorly.

360 sales are of common expectation. $200-$250 hits the sweatspot for moving consoles. Get over it. And I'm happy that neither is lacking games, regardless of the 2nd/3rd position. And DAMN the Wii-ggle to hell!

whoelse6366d ago

Premonition is right. The sales for the PS3 weren't bad considering the economy but it is time for a price cut this Spring.

KingME6366d ago

Man, of all the consoles I would say the PS3 and the 360 are in direct competition with each other. Not the 360 and the PS2 or PSP, so stop all of a sudden combining all of sony products and trying to soften the blow. You're only throwing nintendo in your comment to act as a smoke screen. This is about the 360 vs the PS3 point blank, no one is claiming that Sony didn't make any money.

PS3 Fanboys, don't really care about how much money Sony is making, they want more PS3s to sell than 360. PERIOD! Continue to dilute yourself if it makes you feel better. True Microsoft does only have one console on the market so yes they can only make money for one console, but what you forget is along with carrying 3 consoles, come advertisements, support staff, additional employees, etc. It's not like sony's 3 consoles carry the same operating cost as the 360 therefore all profit goes to the one with the most product.

I'd be willing to bet that some of the profit gained by the PSP and the PS2 is being eaten up by the PS3. Additionally you claim not to be a fanboy, trying to speak as if you are neutral, yet you end your comment with "because of competition... we will have Killzone2" who is "we" a exclusive group that you belong to or are you talking about all console owners? Credibility lost!

The points the oohwii made were valid, and you "are" indeed trying to put a spin on things whether you know it or not.

hippo246366d ago (Edited 6366d ago )

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Dear (opposed console) Fanboy

I have recently noticed that your console (opposed platform) has scored (lower OR higher) on the NPD sales charts. I just want to say that the statistic is (untrue OR true). You see, you seem to ignore the fact that (these statistics don't conform to my way of thinking OR prove my console is better) so I would kindly ask you to (conform to my way of thinking OR admit defeat).

Your Friend (preferred company) Fanboy

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TheHater6367d ago

the Nintendo Wii sold a lot less than I expected. I was expecting around 3 million in the US in December.
The Xbox 360 price cut really help it a lot and right around where I expect it to sold.
As for the PS3, it did good considering the price and less than stellar marketing by Sony.

mint royale6367d ago

given that December had five weeks and that November had four.

2.04m/4 weeks in Nov = 510k/week

2.15m/5 weeks in Dec = 430k/week

Does anyone really believe Nintendo would ship more in November weeks than in December weeks? Surely demand is always higher for everything in december?

pumpkinpunker6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

While they secretly cry over their keyboards because they talked so much trash at the beginning of 2008. Now they're coming to terms with the failure that is the PS3 in their own pathetic form of clique maintenance.

here's some cruel reality:

For Deecember the PS3's sales were further behind the 360 than the 360 was behind the Wii! So for all intensive purposes the 360 is gaining ground on the Wii while the PS3 is losing ground to both. At this point the 360 has a better chance of catching the Wii than the PS3 catching the 360.

Who was right at the beginning of 2008? 360 fanboys were! You should all bow before us as the soothsayers that we are but you don't have the guts. Sony fanboys will never admit it but instead come up with a the new catch phrase to replace "wait until next year." Now they say, "those numbers are nothing to be ashamed of." Well, Sony should be ashamed-- from first to worst in one console generation is epic failure. You can spin it like a merry-go-round until you're blue in the face but that's the truth.

shelbygt336366d ago

The Wii sells because it's FUN!

I know it's the trendy thing to do on here to bash the Wii, but as an owner of all three consoles, there is a place for each of the in my heart.

I keep going back to Metroid, Brain Age, Wii Sports, RE4 and Zelda (even got the zapper game - that's fun!)

Those are the only games I own, but it's a nice mix between solo games through family games.

And as far as why they sell so well - it's novel, they have great cred with Moms, and Moms (regardless of what your Dad says) control the family pocketbook more times than not.

It's pretty simple, really. MS and Sony can't duplicate that as easily as they have not been centered on family-friendly fun as closely as Nintendo has.

Killzonegamer836367d ago

Playstation is kicking butt. a total of 2 million playstation hardware units moved with PS3, PSP and PS2.. considering sony is pretty much breaking even on the PS3 and making very good profits on the PSP and PS2, they are raking in the money.

mint royale6367d ago

and here it is where the DS and Wii are really kicking butt.

socomnick6367d ago

Lol spin spin spin spin me round baby spin me round now. :)

TheExecutive6367d ago

Its an OK year for the Playstation brand. Not its best, thats for sure. PS3 needs a price drop in the spring. By 2010 it needs to be 100 bucks cheaper than it is right now. It would creamed the 360 had there been a price drop, but there wasnt.

I know i picked a 360 up this fall. Too good of a deal to pass up. Sony needs to step up and make the console more affordable to the masses and more importantly... the parents.

likedamaster6367d ago

"" considering sony is pretty much breaking even on the PS3 ""

Not breaking even actually. http://www.gamespot.com/new...

Also, a price drop soon is out of the question. Disappointing sales for the PS3 on the most important Holiday.

Nonetheless, good job Microsoft, Nintendo, & Sony.

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Snake Raiser6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

DDDDDDDDAAAAAARRRRRRNNNNNNNNNN NNN Nintendo! Imagine if METAL GEAR was still a nintendo franchise like it was 15 years ago.

PlayStation 2 410K
+PlayStation 3 726K
+PlayStation Portable 1.02 million =
WAY more than xbox360.
Not all bad news eh?

Well duh! I'm spinning on purpose here peeps!

MGOelite6367d ago

dude thats called spinning, just accept this loss it was inevitable at this time, wait till febuary, you really cant expect a 2x more expensive console to equal or surpase the 360s sales

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Aquanox6367d ago

Xbox 360 > PS3 + PS2
Wii > PS3 + PS2 + PSP

Harsh times for the once undisputable king.

PotNoodle6367d ago

It started on the MSX and really crappy spin offs were put on the nes that were not even in propery metal gear style.

STARS6367d ago

Not as harsh as your games lineup for 2008 and 2009. Ziiiiiiiiing.

TheFreak6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

haha Nintendo are kicking Sony and Microsoft in sales. Stick a fork in both the ps3 and the 360 because they are done, finished, DEAD. There is only ONE TRUE console on the marked and that is the Nintendo Wiii.

Wii FTW!!! LOOOOL

Oner6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

What I find funny is how "certain types" somehow always forget to input other FACTUAL informational factors when they do their little "this > that" comparisons.

It's okay though I will help them out...as it must be a simple typing/grammatical error on their behalf or something! Ya know, an oversight...yeah, that MUST be it! /sarcasm + :rollseyes:

PlayStation 2 410,000
PlayStation 3 726,000
PlayStation Portable 1,020,000
Total = 2,156,000

Nintendo Wii 2,150,000
Nintendo DS 3,040,000
Toal = 5,190,000

Xbox 360 1,440,000

Wii > 360
DS > 360
Wii > PS3
DS > PS3
Wii + DS >>> PS3 + 360

PSP + PS2 > 360
PSP + PS3 > 360
PS3 + PS2 + PSP >>> 360

Wii + DS >>>>>> PS Line + 360

Okay, there we go all fixed up! Now the MISSING information makes for a clearer picture doesn't it?! Instead of "half" truth, bias and so called "harsh" misinformation! Now lets see how "certain types" will TRY and spin that...

Edit: Oh and I forgot to add ~ remember kids, this is JUST 1 Month in JUST 1 market! There is a WHOLE wide world out there with a WHOLE year of information to factor in as well!

Aquanox6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

I never though I'd see the day when Sony fans had to combine 2 or more consoles to essay a spin. Not outside SDF at least :P

karlostomy6367d ago

Jeeesus Oner....

you wrote all that spin just because

360 >>> ps3?

wow. must hurt like hell, huh?

TheFreak6367d ago

yes it hurts as hell for us ps3 owners I do not know what I will do now. Anyone of the ps3 owners on n4g that are in for a mass suicide? Oner u are in?

omega76367d ago

and the fact that PS3 costs 2x as much as X360

there is no spin involved

It is a good PS3 number

Oner6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

LMFAO!!! Talk about DENIAL, CONTRADICTION & SPIN!!!

Here, let me CLEARLY break it down for you "limited intellect" types okay?

Aquanox just said ~

"I never though I'd see the day when Sony fans had to combine 2 or more consoles to essay a spin"

But yet my reply is in DIRECT EXPLANATION OF HIS earlier comment which states

"Xbox 360 > PS3 + PS2
Wii > PS3 + PS2 + PSP

Harsh times for the once undisputable king"

So please TRY and explain yourself Aqua. Because what you JUST SAID

"to combine 2 or more consoles to essay a spin"

Applies to you as well! Since you where the FIRST to do so! So in essence you are (in all actuality) putting yourself down by it's own contradiction!

Wow...SERIOUSLY. WOW! Are you REALLY that stupid? You know what scratch that, don't even attempt to answer that as you'll only make it worse. The PROOF is right here IN YOUR WORD IN BLACK & WHITE for all to see ;) and make their own summations/conclusions.

And for you Karl can you answer one question truthfully? Can you? Just a simple Yes or No will do. But let's see if you are man enough to do so...ready? Here's the question.

Did the Playstation line of products, in total, outsell the total amount of Xbox 360's sold in December using NPD's information?

Just a very simple little Yes or No will suffice. But we all shall see if you have the maturity to do so...

PoSTedUP6367d ago

sony's gaming division > microsofts gaming division

we are GAAAMERS right?

*contnues to play.... damn ps3 has no games. *watches a blu-ray instead* ; )

karlostomy6367d ago (Edited 6367d ago )

Sheesh, Oner....
off the meds again?

Here's your one word answer:
Yes.

IF you combine all of Ps2, ps3 and Psp, *THEN* they outsold the 360.
*groans*

But the very fact that you just made me add that up shows how ridiculous your argument is.
Seriously, wtf is wrong with you?

I know why you asked for a yes/no.
You were afraid of my reply.
It had nothing at all to do with maturity.
A mature person would welcome debate and counterarguments.
I guess you aren't one of those.
In fact you seem upset, like a child just before bedtime.

Maybe you are upset because:

360 > ps3
360 > ps3 + ps2.
360 + MS PC gaming > ps3 + ps2 + psp

Yeah, that would make sense.

Now that everyone can see the desperation of your comments in this thread, are you satisfied?

InMyOpinion6367d ago

I agree. It's pathetic how the PS3 can't stand on it's own legs.

AngryTypingGuy6367d ago

There are probably several diehard Sony fanboys that are crying because the 360 sold twice as much. I mean, literally crying, because they're THAT pathetic. I don't know why some people would get that worked up, but many Sony fanboys seem to have more of a relationship with Sony than just that of a consumer. Frightening.

Oner6366d ago

@ Karl ~ Desperation? How is it that 1 month in 1 market is being touted as the be all end all? THAT is desperation. Aquanox left out PERTINENT information that applies to the situation...I fix/add what is missing and I AM DESPERATE!?!? Wow. Nice. You really sure know how to TRY and spin things.

@ Jenzo ~ I have a question for you about that, let's see if you can answer it without a bs spin. Okay? You up for it as well? Here goes...Hasn't the PS3 sold more in it's first 2 years than the 360 in it's first 2 years? And if so how does that make it "not being able to stand on it's own legs"?

@ AngryTypingGuy ~ Don't forget this little bit of FACTUAL info. That is ONLY in 1 market for a very short time. ;)

Aquanox6366d ago (Edited 6366d ago )

The important tidbits of this (HD Race) are the following:

* Microsoft has sold 1.2 million more consoles in the US compared to the Playstation 3.

* The Xbox 360 has sold more consoles than PS3 Worldwide in 2008. As of now, their numbers are pretty much even without counting European Q4, precisely when the Xbox 360 starting outpacing the PS3 and by a good margin.

* Software wise, both exclusives and multiplatform games have vastly outperformed their PS3 counterparts. Gears 2 did in 2 months what MGS4 did in 6, GTA IV Xbox 360 doubled PS3's version sales, COD5 saw a similar situation. Fable II and Left 4 Dead largely outperformed LittleBigPlanet and Resistance 2.

* Sony doesn't seem to be willing to cut the price in the near future (2009Q1) so this trend should continue Worldwide (except Japan)

2008 was clearly the year of the Xbox 360 in the HD market in both Hardware and Software. There's no need of spinning of desperate resources, the numbers have talked loud and clear.

Oner6366d ago

Nice...Didn't even address ANYTHING I said. Now THAT'S truly denial ;).

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