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Xbox Studio Closures 'Eggs Broken to Make Omelet' Situation; Great Show Could Mostly Eclipse Anger

Wccftech discussed the recent Xbox news with MIDiA Research analyst Rhys Elliott, who pointed out that a strong upcoming Games Showcase could help a lot with fans.

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RaidenBlack782d ago (Edited 782d ago )

I was hoping for something different from Coalition, not Gears 6 so soon.
Their expertise in UE development could've propelled them to try out other IPs using the new UE5.
But guess, given recent MS' state, Gears 6 was the 'safer' call for the studio. But still hope they venture other IPs or even other genres ... at least FPSs in future?

Alexious782d ago

Microsoft seems only interested in maximizing profits through its biggest IPs at this point.

LordoftheCritics781d ago

Guys the games are coming......

Fishy Fingers782d ago

So soon? Its been 5 years since Gears 5, longest gap between games in the franchise.

RaidenBlack781d ago (Edited 781d ago )

Oh yeah ... since Gears 5 was getting so many updates, the game's still felt fresh in my mind ... but the latter part of my above comment still stands ... they could've leveraged their UE expertise and the UE5 hype to create something original of their own for atleast once than continue again with another entry in the same'ol IP handed down to them from Epic Games.
Just look at the Matrix demo they were involved in ... they can cook up something cool and different

XiNatsuDragnel782d ago

I was hoping for better but Microsoft being safe again....

MrDead782d ago

Why would people be less angry? If MS made it's own games instead of buying up what was already available then we wouldn't be in the situation that everyone is angry at.

MS is the problem.

Ra3030781d ago

100% correct! And no, A "Great Show Could Mostly Eclipse Anger" it can't do anything to change Microsoft and the anger gamers have had that has been built over years, decades! Microsoft has had great "shows" every year. The easy part is making a game look real good with CGI but at some point Halo Infinite, RedFall, CrackDown3, Bleeding Edge, Hellblade 2, Starfield these games have to release and when they do we've found time and time again that what was shown at what we thought was a pretty great show....turned out to be crap!
Now Microsoft thinks it was a good idea to pay $70-$80 billion to acquire Developers and Publishers who's games were already coming to Xbox and adding 1000's of employees that must be paid and with benefits. Add to that its Microsoft that will decide what projects will be green lit and what won't be something Microsoft has not shown to be very good at. Microsoft in gaming is a disaster and if they got out of gaming it wouldn't be a bad thing and now we got Media running interference with "wait till the great show"..........how many years have Xbox gamers, all gamers be told by Microsoft "you just wait", "wait till next year", "wait till E3", " wait till next gen", wait, wait, wait that's what Microsoft does best tell gamers to wait then never deliver. Well its no secret i was done waiting long ago how bout you?

rpvenom781d ago

I agree with this statement.. all those games listed were absolute trash.. but hellblade 2 i think would pull through cause even hellblade 1 was great. even if everything was kept the same as hellblade 1, it would be good but based on everything shown so far, and even though i'm an avid sony fan.. i'm excited and confident hellblade 2 will be one of the few last greats for xbox. will def cop it on pc

Ra3030781d ago

Your right HellBlade 2 in unlikely to be "trash" its not even released yet but the thing this game has going for it is its not been given the usual over hype that Microsoft gives its games and personally I think that helps its. I don't want to be told something is the greatest thing ever then it fall short of that as most all Microsoft games do. Also fair to say Starfield was not trash but it did get the usual Microsoft hype and it fell well short of that. That said I got to see a great HellBlade 2 before I believe it.

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PRIMORDUS782d ago

Fuck MS and Phil. I already told that shit bag off on Twitter, if the dumb ass responds I highly doubt it, I will go off much worse. What a fucking disgrace MS and Phil are to the gaming community.

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma62d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay62d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran862d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger62d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl62d ago (Edited 62d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2362d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay63d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn264d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn263d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown63d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos64d ago (Edited 64d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay63d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay63d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac63d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger64d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300064d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde64d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood63d ago (Edited 63d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde63d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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