There's no reason for it especially when they need to be focusing on their first party games. 2024 is bleak for ps5 and a pro version console isn't solving anything.

The PS5 has been out for years now. Devs say they didn’t get the most or whatever out of PS5 but what is stopping them? The Pro isn’t for everyone. If you are happy with the PS5 there is nothing wrong with that. If people want to get a Pro there is nothing wrong with it. I want one. I’ll take the extra fps with the upscaling tech and not having to lower the graphics settings. People are knocking it before it’s even out but I’m sure it will be a decent upgrade and that’s all I want. It won’t be a PS6 but it isn’t supposed to be. I will play on the Pro and my kids will get my OG PS5 to play on instead of buying a slim for them.

People wanna get hyped but it'll just be a repeat of the PS4 Pro. The PS4 Pro barely got any support, most games remain without a Pro patch and will never get one at this point. The thing was more for 4K, it couldn't even achieve that, and because devs had to make their games with the base model in mind, whatever extra juice the Pro could've had was underutilized. The thing about consoles is that fixed tech throughout the gen. Much rather they be the best tech for their time, be pricey but guarantee support for a decade. As frustrating as the PS360 gen was for some, you can't deny that it got long/strong support and games looked better and better somehow every year.

I dislike mid-gen "refreshes" in the first place. Just preys on FOMO.

I don't see the conflict, it is not like those engineers can help make Uncharted 5 or something... If people don't see the need of PS5 Pro, then don't buy it.

For me, I don't see why not, if it makes games I play now can output more FPS and higher resolution, why wouldn't I want that?

Saying why PS5 Pro is happening is like saying why there are new graphic cards coming out.

Because people want it. They don't question why there's a new superpowered GPU every year or 2 which doesn't get utilised by developers. Nothing wrong with us console players having options and not having to wait 7-8 years between upgrades

I'll probably get it, trade in my launch system. Though these days game on a 4090 rig but since gta6 won't release on pc for ages that'd be it's main purpose.

If the regular PS5 has all this untapped potential, then where are all the devs with 120fps that isn't even mentioned anymore or even a stable 60? Where's the ray tracing that doesn't gimp the whole performance? Where are all the 4K games that don't rely on 30fps slideshows. That's the reason for the overhead.

devs complained when we had complicated but power hardware, now they complain when we have easy hardware yet powerful enough to push state of the art tech, and even when the industry is moving towards iterative upgrades, they still complain. no wonder studios are trying to integrate AI technology to speed up production, these people just want to complain.
I'll take the PS5 pro, i like sony's hardware and this one is a no brainer.

I see no absolute reason for this at all and will definitely not support it

I'm not sure better hardware is what we need. We keep moving forward, budgets increase exponentially while we are seeing diminishing returns in visuals. Performance seems to stay the same even when we double the hardware. Would be more reasonable to slow down and just use what we have and learn how to make the best of it for a moment. A pro probably won't lead to steady fps and all that, scope just increases leaving us where we started.

Brute Force Optimization.

yeaa i definitely dont know why we're getting it.

I read this as costing devs more money and time, on the consumer end I want more powerful hardware options, always and forever.

Would they say the same thing every time a new CPU/GPU comes out each year?
It's partly their fault of not be able to optimize their games and take chances yet the team that do take advantage of the current gen hardware already demanded of faster CPU.
As for the Pro itself it simply just a hardware refresh, take it or leave it, PS6 a few years away if they want a leap in hardware, it's not hard to fathom.
Any enhanced console knew it only have a year or two to shine anything after its going to take a backseat make way for next gen console.
Pro console is Sony admission that their hardware is aging fast especially when we constantly keep hitting the diminishing returns even on high end hardware imagine trying to achieve better results than that with lesser hardware and comparatively affordable price they have to hit with their console.
The truth of the matter is everyone's hitting the wall and hardware leap kind of stopped a few years back in PC space and it won't be any better on consoles, all these manufacturers claimed big improvement but that big gains claim just doesn't happen on middle tier hardware.

I’m probably going to be buy one maybe wait until next year. Hopefully next year will bring more titles because it really doesn’t make sense unless you are a fan. With having games to show a difference when it launches is going to be a hard sale.. Even with them updating previous games with the pro, it’s not going to change peoples minds. There really hasn’t been a lot of titles that were ps5 only titles this gen as of yet. So I agree with the questions why but I do plan on picking one up next hopefully a long with the Switch predecessor.

So like..do better devs...you just admitted you screwed the pooch on making the games.

The only reason I see the pro coming out is to hurt the Microsoft Series S and Nintendo Switch 2, forcing developers into making the PS5 the base entry model for their games.
Due to PlayStation's huge Market Share, I expect average studios to drop Xbox versions due to Serie's parity clause
focusing on the PlayStation only.

Squeeze what left out of the PS5? Rebirth already chokes it to death. The thing is, for the next console, Sony just needs to go all out and make a console that's already powerful from the start, stop pussyfooting around this $500 threshold. I'd rather just pay 700 or more if it means not having to shell out another 500 for a pro version later. We rag on the Xbox for having an X/S version but this is basically the same thing happening. Just make one ultra powerful console and be done with it.

To each their own I guess. I’ll just wait for the ps6 and continue with the base ps5.

Just like saying why do people upgrade there phones or the cpu or gpu/ram. it's there to give u the best possible performance as possible. Despite ps5 having the same cpu just slightly overclock it's possibly to give u more of a steady fps in a cpu usage type of games

I also question why PS5 Pro is happening. We still haven't shaken off the previous gen yet. This generation has been really slow to get going. To me it seems we haven't really seen what this generation is truly capable of and now we're talking Pro consoles? I just don't see the need for them at this point.

Maybe the key to getting more out of the current hardware is devs optimise their code better? Seems that too many games are released now that perform below par, and need to be patched. I'm sure there's more headroom if the devs just took more time and care before pushing their products out the door.

spiderman 2 at 4k/60fps with enhanced raytracing

I'm pretty sure well find out day one, what the pro brings to the table

Sitting 2.8m from an 85". I don't question it. I want it!

I wonder too.

They know people will buy it so they don't really care. If the leaked specs are anything to go by, there may be a bit of a bottleneck.

This generation has been wholly underwhelming in terms of performance. 4k120fps printed on retail packaging yet there's only a few games that can achieve that...3 and a half years in, whilst sacrificing detail in other areas.

Some stand outs like Horizon: Forbidden West really do look current gen, but those gems are few and far between.

Just look at Dragon's Dogma 2 as a recent example. AAA game in 2024...20-30fps. A long way from 4k/120.

People just cry about everything

no need for pro as this generation has has zero true AAA next gen games (yes there are a handful)
but with the high hight cost and 5-6 year dev process there is no need for a pro...
focus on getting us games for PS5 first and release PS6 in 6-8 years...
some peeps just received their PS5 due to lack of PS5's...
stop the insanity and oh yeah there are 150K peeps out of work - focus on hiring peeps and build back better !

This is an “I know a guy who heard a guy say this” article. Nothing tangible

I said this before, so many games for the first few years of the PS5 lifecycle were cross-gen games that weren't truly pushing the hardware. We've only had a handful of PS5 exclusive titles to begin to scratch the surface.

Couple that with Covid and plenty of people not even getting their hands on the console over the first 2 years of its existence, and this Pro model feels like a money grab and a slap in the face.

No, you don't HAVE to upgrade, but the timing feels rushed.

I don't see the point either as 99% of devs aren't even bothering to optimize games properly and it will be made worse with the PS5 Pro as devs are getting lazy.

Series S should not exist, now devs are mad at Sony for pushing the industry forward while M$ holds an entire generation of gaming behind.

They scooped up a ton of studios and force gimped versions of their games on their budget console. That’s the problem—Pro games are optional and Sony first party will lead the way per usual.

So, are consumers.

Hell, I’m still questioning this entire gen. Like when will it start, next-gen when the PS6 launches?

This is dumb, if they are making 30fps games they should be happy to have the extra power to push this to 60fps.

I'll take the PS5 Pro for the extra fps any day that's for sure.

I think it's happening to give devs a chance to see, use and learn more about PSSR and the machine learning Sony plans for PS6.

PS5 10.5 Tflops and PS5 PRO 33.5 tflops, I know people before you even type it tflops isn't an exactly good measure, but it's what we have and I think it's not a bad idea. I have a beef PC but honestly I don't play it much because my friends are on PS so that's where I play.

I hope one day we can move aways from 30 fps for good

Greed.

Good time to be PS gamer. So many optional and great games around the corner.

People will upgrade their cellphone every 2 years or so, and without a “ripoff” cellphone plan will spend $500-$1200 to upgrade their phone. Paying $500-$600 for a console upgrade every 3 years doesn’t seem that extraordinary.

Any sane person should.

I love new tech. I can afford it so I'm buying the PS5 Pro day one.

Wuchang is great. Nine Sols didn’t have a physical copy so I never played it but I’ve heard good things so I will check it out. I stopped playing sports games many years ago when before the card dlc’s or whatever they’re called.

Last comment… ):

Great month for others, but not me. Hate soccer and soulslikes. Maybe Nine Sols is good.

🫡 it was fun while it lasted, N4G.

FC26!