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Nacon exec says industry's problem is "too many games"

The industry is starting 2024 in much the same way as it spent most of 2023, with news of layoffs and "for sale" signs and closures arriving alongside charts showing modest sales growth for the industry.

Speaking with GamesIndustry.biz before the holiday break, Nacon head of publishing Benoit Clerc acknowledges the frequency of setbacks coming alongside less-than-dire news for the industry, and points to a specific culprit for the seeming mismatch in events.

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isarai877d ago

Weird that he says that but what he is describing is more the issue being falling to pressure to become a AAA production studio. You don't HAVE to aim for AAA plenty of studios have found a great place in the mid tier.

crazyCoconuts877d ago

"We're seeing today the results of investment made after [COVID] when the market was bursting, and every game was making a lot of money so there were a lot of investments being made. "
That's the headline. He thinks AA can do well if it connects on some niche market vs. competing with AAA with mainstream games

k2d876d ago

A better conclusion to draw is that fewer young people are buying games, and it's becoming more difficult to buy games for kids. Kids are playing fortnite, and buying digital only ps5's. Can't gift them steam games or Ps5 games then.

crazyCoconuts876d ago

@k2d that would certainly line up with my kids.
They occasionally pay $20 for an online MP like Lethal Company but never even express interest in the big AAA single player games.

shinoff2183877d ago (Edited 877d ago )

I'm calling bs on that. Not all games appeal to everyone. I usually stick with rpgs cause that's my sh,with an occasional metroiodvania, platformer, etc. I can't get enough

Also where th is xcom 3

crazyCoconuts877d ago

It's a simple answer that might not be wrong. From a macroeconomic perspective it would explain all the layoffs.
None of us gamers want fewer games, but how many new games are average gamers buying a year at this point?

-Foxtrot877d ago

I'd buy more games, if I had time. It's why I never get round to most Indie games these days.

You get in from work, say you'll boot up your PS or Xbox after making dinner and BOOM you end up having to do something else, either that or you just fall asleep from exhaustion.

phoenixwing876d ago (Edited 876d ago )

That's also if gaming is your only hobby. I read a book for awhile and watch some anime at night. Suddenly it's the end of the day and that game I meant to play for a hour or two isn't as compelling as getting a full 8 hours sleep.

-Foxtrot876d ago

Yeah that's true, there's so many films and TV shows I need to get through, and then people suggest anime on top of the more well know cult classic anime that I want to get through but I just don't have the time. Like there's so many classic well known films I've been meaning to watch and I have downloaded but I just take ages getting round to them yet new films get released and I end up watching them instead so they aren't spoiled.

Funny thing is when I have free time I end up decompressing on my PC listening to music, going through the same 10 websites, hours pass which COULD have been spent gaming and I don't get much time at the end of the day when I do go on.

Only reason I get time to go on here at work is because I'm allowed to have my phone in the lab.

franwex876d ago

Not only that, but then your friends invite you to jump online and you don’t get through the games you were going to play. Or series you were going to watch, or book you were going to read!

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darthv72876d ago

Im in this situation... which is why I tend to play more 'couch' friendly games on switch, portal, steam deck and evercade. The games i play are generally in bite sized play time and having so many at my fingertips means i can quickly switch to something else that i may want to play.

I certainly dont have the time to invest in long drawn out games, nor do I even really go into my game room to play on the consoles themselves. Handhelds / streaming / remote play are all i pretty much do now.

rlow1877d ago

In the article he says to many games is a problem because it’s harder to make your game stand out from the crowd. Also, because gamers have a greater understanding of games, they have to raise the bar to meet those expectations. But as a AA publisher they can’t spend the money that others can to push those expectations.

Interesting

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Take-Two CEO Once Again Side Steps Grand Theft Auto 6 Price Point

Strauss Zelnick says price of GTA 6 is being carefully considered and that Rockstar is focused on "making the most spectacular piece of entertainment on Earth."

Kuma37d ago

If GTA 6 abandons everything that made GTA 5 great, it will crash and burn right out of the gate. GTA 5 was funny and not at all PC. My worry is that they will cave to the PC crowd and ruin the vibes.

Eonjay37d ago

They got freaking BBLs twerking on the top of trucks for the gram, the freaking Flordia joker, and dude running down the stree in their undies and you are worried about it being 'too PC'? The internet has runied gamers. It doesn't matter how non-PC they make the game, you will all listen to the grifters telling you not to believe your lying eyes lol.

gigoran837d ago

"Rockstar Games’ co-founder and former VP of Development Jamie King said he envisions GTA 6 as a game that’s “maybe not quite as edgy or quite as funny” as its satirical predecessors."

oh yeah, totally internet grifters spreading rumors...

blacktiger37d ago

That's part of the plan, they destroyed you but they need to destroy the shareholders? Only 1 shre holder is the true elite that don't care

1nsomniac37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

Meh.., if it’s above £55 I ain’t buying it.

Rockstar are genuinely not half the company they used to be. I was a die hard GTA fan I’ve purchased every game and expansion and spin off day 1.

My opinion of GTA6 is that I can take it or leave it. Not bothered. They burnt too many bridges.

DaReapa37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

So they're actually leaving the door open for an L.A. Noire sequel? Nice!

VaNdAl37d ago (Edited 37d ago )

He should just come out and say it already it's getting stupid it's going to be a 100 bucks $200 for the special edition🤡🤡; 29315;🤣♿

Storm2337d ago

I won't be getting this game until I can get it for $70. SHoot, I could wait for it to be even lower. I don't need the game that badly as my backlog is still huge and I am enjoying playing other things.

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Talking Aliens: The Video Games With Author Mike Diver

Skewed and Reviewed have posted an interview with Author Mike Diver about his pending book on Aliens video games.

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Xbox boss: Memory crisis could impact next-gen hardware pricing

Xbox boss Asha Sharma has discussed how component shortages will impact the company's plans for Project Helix.

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Eonjay38d ago

When does this end? Its killing everyone. Consoles and PC. And for what? AI? The benefits of AI are completely outweighed by the negatives. And the government should have never allowed one company to buy up all the RAM.

Lexreborn239d ago

This kind of proves this is an after thought product, most products like this are in r&d 5 years before they start mass producing. So they typically have the cost of components and things worked out long before assembly starts.

This is an assumption still, but I wouldn’t be surprised if project helix is similar to Scalebound,perfect dark and sod3. They had an idea but no actual execution other than concept stage. Being impacted by the ram shortage likely would also put this device 3-4 years out.

I’m not even sure MS has that endurance with Xbox yet

Fishy Fingers39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

I mean.... what?

We're at a point that Samsung wont even provide their own phone department ram because they can sell it at higher prices to 3rd parties (AI). Its more profitable to sell the ram than make their own devices with it.

You think because R&D starts 5 years ago the 3rd party component manufacturers will honour that price? They'll sell it to whomever is paying the most today, not some gentlemens agreement they made years ago. AI farms will buy more volume at higher prices than any console manufacturer will. It'll be the same for Playstation.

Lexreborn238d ago

Contractual agreements are not the same as “gentlemen” agreements. If you think that they work with their distributors a month before production then their entire business model is trash. They work with companies like nvidia constantly for building the graphics cards they need. They work with companies that build motherboards years in advance. This is what proper business planning does.

They are not buying components on a whim like a consumer. So again, considering the ram isn’t a singular module and is integrated into the motherboard I highly doubt they wouldn’t have a final schematic that they are supposed to be building around.

If they are delaying production another 3 years then it’s obvious again this is an after though project and is just trying to be responsive to their bad execution they had the last 14 years.

It also isn’t far fetched to use their failure to produce first party titles the last 7 years including the highly anticipated games I mentioned all being cancelled. That they would continue to you know… lie

Sitdown39d ago

You don't really know how this works huh?

Profchaos39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

Helix is going to be stupidly expensive

Instead of leaning into smarter upscaling techniques they're brute forcing hardware that will cost them dearly and it remains to be seen if it's genuinely going to provide a meaningful differential

I know in the oc.doace people like to brag about not using frame gen or dlss to get to high on a game but for the majority of players they happily use those technologies without a second thought

That's going to be ps6 vs Helix

Eonjay38d ago

Yeah with FSR 5 they should be able to offer a much cheaper version of Helix.

Eonjay38d ago

While this does seem to be the case, I am encouraged by the statement from Microsoft about wanting to provide affordable options. If this means a Series S style Helix, at least there will be something affordable being offered.

XBManiac38d ago

Series S is what has killed Xbox Series so... Will they dare?

blacktiger39d ago

It's called systematic inflationary. Yes we get it Microsoft, keep raising in the name ofall kinds of stuffs

pwnmaster300039d ago

Honestly if there was thing I learned from this generation is that new consoles arnt day one anymore.
I can wait 1-3 years.

DarXyde39d ago

Another important lesson from this generation: while Nintendo showed us that prices don't necessarily need to ever drop, we've now learned that waiting 1-3 years does carry some risk that prices increase. This generation is just bizarre in all the wrong ways.

LucasRuinedChildhood39d ago (Edited 39d ago )

The factors are largely external. Covid and Russia-Ukraine war causing inflation led to the first price increase in 2022.

Then we get Trump's tariffs increasing hardware prices, AI boom causing a RAM crisis, war on Iran causing a worldwide fuel crisis which impacts the cost of everything.

Gaming doesn't exist in a vacuum. The last few years have been a shitshow and lot of it was definitely avoidable.

DarXyde38d ago

LucasRuinedChildhood,

For sure. No disagreement on the external factors doing a lot of this. Where I have to gently push back however is on two fronts:

1. The pandemic definitely caused some issues: asynchronous development was a big issue and really complicated timelines and affected game quality. At the same time, when it comes to price hikes, it's really difficult to know what was genuine necessity and what was taking consumers for a ride. The pandemic brought about "stag-flation" which was increasing prices and stagnant wages, which was a problem caused by supply chain constraints. There was also "Greed-flation", where companies that were slightly affected or had no issues took advantage of the situation and squeezed everyone citing supply chain issues when there were none.

2. It's definitely true that the tariffs, AI boom, and RAM crisis were all things enabled by tech broligarchs throwing money at this caricature of a world leader, one of them being Satya Nadella. I don't think Sony and Nintendo have contributed much to this problem if at all, but Microsoft's Nadella I feel was instrumental in causing every one of those issues. Microsoft as a company contributed to both candidates (though they gave Harris 4x as much if I recall), but Nadella was all in on letting AI run wild. He paid for unregulated AI, and got a war that's not a war (even though Trump called it that at least five times on television) that screwed up helium access. So for me, I feel that one of the players in the gaming industry is a key architect of these issues, and for that reason I struggle a bit to think of it as "external".

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