Can't you make your own controls? x.X

Nitpicking about controls now.I keep telling you people,Killzone 2 will get slaughtered in the reviews like a succulent pig due to its history with the gaming media.

I expect 6s and 7s due to "Too much Variety","Cannot match 2005 trailer",controls,"t oo linear",short,and more surprises.

Not a bad excuse,the problem is though,we already know Killzone 2 both looks and performs great;Thanks to numerous Killzone 2 reviewers that have posted on Neogaf.com and other Message Boards.

Therefore,here's me before reading this article:

:)

Here's me after reading this article:

:)

Since Killzone 2 is a PS3 exclusive, it is best to expect this kind of BS.

If you're a camper like this turd who wrote this, never play Killzown, you WILL get killzowned.

This turd cries because he realized that he won't be able to camp and hide everywhere successfully

So if you're a camper, go back to your slowpaced crap called CoD, stay away from Killzown, or if you're really kind - die irl.

I mean look how broken theyy are I mean it is worth a C because of the controls. I mean pressing R1 to aim instead of R2. How dare you guerrilla games.

This guy is an idiot

that you can't toggle crouching, then this must be one F&$king good game. i cant wait to play it!!!

For me personally, my fingers don't slip off of the L2 and R2 triggers, but that's just me.

Customizable controls were said to be included in the final version of the game, so I guess it's just not in the Review build.

Even if I had the choice of customizing the controls in Killzone 2, I wouldn't and on top of that, I like the L2 button for Crouch, and after playing Resistance 2, I really got used to it.

Anyways, I was sure that somehow some way people would find something to nitpick on since the game itself is so amazing. Can't wait to finally get my hands on it next month.

I mean really? C'mon. They've really got to hunker down and figure out some better excuses to downscore the review. "Too good", perhaps?

You know what, you are not the only person thats going to play the game. Im was in the bet and didnt have a problem. Stop whinning about the controls and enjoy the game.

Are you really going to let "L2 slipping" ruin the game? If it does, then sell your PS3 and go play Wii Sports.

Why is it so hard for all game developers to make controls fully customizable in every game? What are they afraid of?

Graphics - Some of the best ever
Gameplay - Rock solid
Tension - High
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OH MY GOD CIRCLE DOESN'T CROUCH!!!1!!11

Which buttons do u press to fire is it R1 or R2 i prefer R2 - thanx

I was in the beta and the controller layouts are all standard FPS layouts... nothing out of the ordinary, just pick one you're used to and adapt. To me, the only aspect that would kill a shooting game is if there is invert aim and you can't change it (try playing Rainbow Six for the PS1 now.. not easy lol)

This is a weak complaint

just to show you guys an example, i couldnt even use my gamepad in mass effect on the pc, did i complain to the devs? no, i adapted and used the keyboard which is rare for me and ended up being great, this guy should learn and do the same

OH

Why do I see the dumbest f*cking complaints levied against PS3 exclusive games yet everything else gets a free pass? Too much variety, glass doesn't shatter like the glass bottle I shot outside last night, too "gamey", levels are so linear I don't know where to go (WTF!?). The reaching is pathetic man.

I actually kind of....agree.

Listen, no game can be PERFECT. From all the analyzing iv done from gameplay videos and such, it just seemed the controls werent PERFECT. But you know, we cant expect a game EXACTLY like cod control wise, thats just stupid. Despite any MINOR issues with the controls, I expect any flaw whatsoever to be overlooked as the ENTIRE Killzone 2 experience will make me completely ignore my gf for a month.

More of a individual preference. I don't have a problem with adapting to control schemes from game to game. Seems this guy got pretty good with COD and doesn't want to go through the learning curve again. To me, real players learn to adapt, wannabes whine.

that dude just got owned by all the comments lol

doesn't anyone know if one of the schemes has sprint on anything other than the left stick click?

I've had to deal with games where using southpaw made moving and reloading all but physically impossible to do. It doesn't make sense to have the controls not be mappable by the player, he or she knows how his or her body works period. I love COD but I don't play anymore because it is physically painful to play the game because the southpaw stick setting makes pressing any of the right side face buttons all but impossible to do without straining. I am renting this game, but if I see that the southpaw settings are as worthless as COD4 (and alot of other shooters.) I will not buy it because I am not going to hurt myself just to play a game. Especially when my problem could be solved by the developer doing what 99% of all PC games let you do.

whos to say COD4 controls are perfect? maybe i dont want to run by clicking the left analog stick? f u

I played the beta and my only qualm was with that L2 crouch button, damn my hand started to cramp up from holding that thing down and using the other shoulder buttons simultaneously.

I really hope the final final version has COMPLETELY customizable controls, either way, I'll deal with it.

That was a really funny gag article.

Oh wait what? He was being serious? HA! HA! HA! Now it's even funnier.

Camping is a disease an Killzone 2 is the cure.

Just read the comments on the site there really isn't much left to say or call this retard that those commentor haven't already. He deserves every bit of it, i mean come on i thought this was gonna be an actual problem. Instead it turned out to be nit pickin at it's fackin finest.

This actually made me even more excited because now i know my experience wont be totally ruined by facking campers. These cowards are gonna have to have some skill rather than just crouch in waiting for the whole facking match.

i dont understand what he is trying to say. he made the point that if your hand slipped off of L2 you would pop up but lets say you have to hold circle that would cramp your right hand up unless he is saying to have it exactly like cod4. anyway all games are different this isnt cod4. what hes used to might not be what everyone is used to. anyway if you play the game long enough it wont matter regardless.

anyone know if the R2/L2 triggers can be swapped R1/L1, for example fire w R2/L2? I don't play like this but I'm tempted to opt for a 360 controller and use the adapter lol, so in order for the 360 trigger to work correctly firing needs to be done on r2/l2.. info would be great, thanks dudes

It's pretty easy using L2 with R1 to fire. When i play TF2 on Ps3 (yes i do play it, amazing game but has quite a bit of glitches). I use L2 for alt fire and R1 for shoot and i play Demoman/Spy so i use the combo of both buttons alot. I'm quite glad it has a different control layout than CoD. People would just say "Oh it's like CoD4, same layout but a little slower and with classes". Glad it has it's own feel.

Certainly can't be worse than the controls for GunValkyrie!

Stop being a noob and learn to adapt. This isn't Call of Duty 4 but many people seem to forget that. I've played the beta and I had more trouble with R2's control scheme (L2 being crouch and sprint), then killzone 2. Its like journalism is turning into a maternity ward with all these cry babies.

lol.. UGO... what a joke site.

Realistically, what new game comes out that you don't need some time with figuring out the controls? None. There's always that learning curve when a new game is released, with the exception of sequels most of the time. Developers map controls to the way they feel operates best, and I never ever change controller mappings.

Wait...that's a lie. I do change Street Fighter 2 mappings and swap out the hard buttons with the light, but really who doesn't do that? A Hadouken with L1 or LB? that's ridiculous.

I agree, crouch should be toggle/hold selectable, iron sights should be the same, and all buttons shold be mappable.

Having said that, it really just sounds like hes looking for one last thing to b*tch about and thats it. Not gamebreaking.

"Imagine yourself holding a 20 pound gun while standing upright. Hmm no problem right?
Now imagine yourself holding the same 20 pound gun but this time bend your knees, in other words, crouch. Hold it for 10-20 mins. Feel comfortable?

My point is, there's a reason why Guerrila mapped the buttons that way. Just like when Snake crouches in MGS4, you see him holding his back in discomfort after crouching for long periods of time."

It's called a gameism and it should be there to allow for better gameplay, you know, kinda like your health magically regenerates after being shot in the face? Or how you mow down an army of supposedly badass soldiers, simply by being awesome, you're not even superhuman...
Whatever, I know your answer: "piss off fanboy, everything Sony is perfect, those who criticize them are paid of by MS and want sony to fail, waaa waaaaa waaaaaaa"

Anyway, I'm looking forward to the game, I don't care about this issue, I'm expecting an awesome looking game with standard fps mechanics and gameplay with a less-than-interesting story, and that's probably what I'll get. Will it be perfect? No, will it be great, yeah probably. The only problem I can imagine as being really annoying is the fact that I'm forced to use the DS3.

Thought their was six different configs anyway ,sure one will do fine if not perfect lol. In my ideal world I would love KZ2 to support Keyboard and Mouse aswell lol, but you'll just have to adapt like everyone else,"kidz eh what u make of them": )

this guy sucks so he blame on the control.

the only annoying thing is not being able to customise controls fully (saying that i'm sure there will b 1 i like) - but the article was basically a moan about L2 for crouch... well a long time ago i bought some clip on triggers that u can get from basically all entertainment stores, cost me £2 and my fingers are comfortable on the L1+2 buttons. Also putting crouch to something like o means you can't aim whilst u go into crouch (cus u gotta take ur thumb off the right analogue) which is why even though this is default in cod i find most ppl (including myself) change it to something like the R3 button.

ah well i haven't played it yet but doubt after a few hours it will be much of a problem, and like i say perhaps you should invest in a set of triggers if your main gripe is crouching...

Controls make or break a game for me. I could careless about graphics. Being a FPS nut, I'm very picky with control.

http://ps3life.nl/nieuws/23...

I want that bundle, the box would be added to my NES, Sega Genesis, SNES, Sega Saturn, and PS1 boxes(no i didn't keep the ps2 nor xbox360 box).

Whiny little bastards. People just don't know when to enjoy a game instead of having everything perfectly to their liking. It's called adaptation, people...get with the program.

Its not the control layout its the PS3 pad... it sucks at fps's.

um.......... seriously? i was expecting something awful but thats pretty much my perfect control set out

put crouch on L3 and its sorted.

Im sure the layout is fine and if thats the only fault they have then its going to be very good.

what the hell its cod4's layout i'll be happy with that i like COD the only problem i see is the zoom thing 1 click to go into zoom and 1 to go off if they made it hold that will be good but im not bothered about controls i wan the game NOW!! why does everyone compare it to COD 4

COD has the best FPS controls I've ever played and I completely mapped Resistance 2's buttons to ape COD's...So I agree that customizable controls should ALWAYS be in the shipped code of a game. I understand that the makers of KZ2 had something specific in mind with the way it's laid out, but it really should be up to the player to make the gameplaying experience as close to their version of perfect as possible. Personally I can't wait for the game.

That there's no 'kill everything on the screen button'. People and their slight discomfort issues....

the controls are very good, unless ppl have 2-3 fingers

Gamers adapt.

Don't buy the game...I love the controls , i was in the beta and controls feel great

Seb Downie (QA from Guerrilla) said the exact same thing on the Official PS Forums. He also mentioned that crouch having to be hold and not toggle was a design decision - if you could just tap a button to crouch it would pretty much nulify the 'lean & peak' system.

Honestly, that guy from UGO was pulling a GamesRadar on Killzone 2...infact, I'm surprised he didn't say it was 'too gamey' Gaming journalists gets sad when there's no innovation, but then if your game doesn't control the exact same way as his/hers favourite game, you can damn well be sure there'll be complaining.

This is the kind of stuff that makes me care less and less about the opinions of these folks. I much rather get some feedback from friends/people I know from forums and then try the game myself before I pass judgement on it.

fiddlrd with controls a bit and it was almost the same as call of duty except for the crouch thing which was L2 and the toggle aiming settings, but they said they'll fix that. btw the controls are a perfect combination really!

why this site being so harsh on a game which is yet to be released....

If your fingers slip from L2 and R2 stop eating oily chips while playing.

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Just a BLOG from hater. Move on.

Save for all the name calling I do believe that this article was written to generate hits or because this person is basically trying to nitpick on KZ2.
I remember back in undergrad we would play Halo and bet money, the problem was I didn't own an XBOX and I liked my controllers inverted but that wasn't always possible when you are playing with at least 15 to 20 people to go each time you are up and change the layout. As a game I adapted and it really didn't take me that long.
I really see this article as a non issue and though this guy is entitled to his opinion I think this is a prime example of someone trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
I anticipate this sort of thing tho and trust me when I say we will see a lot worst. Lets just keep in mind that some have agendas and can't seem to review a game on the PS3 based on its own merits, sad really.

Funny, because I FAR prefer toggled crouch as opposed to being forced to hold it down. Toggled crouch is how COD4 does it, and it makes perfect sense--how else are you going to go prone in that game, if you have to hold down the button to crouch?

To me, being forced to hold down the crouch button is a handicap, NOT the other way around. Not to mention, have you ever considered how it'd be IMPOSSIBLE to hold down L2 (crouch) AND hold down L1 (Aim) at the same time? Unless you want to move your middle finger up to hold down L2, which would be awkward as hell.

i bet the start button is to fire and the right bumper is to move backwards... i hate it when games try to go there own way when cod4 halo3 have allready set the standard...

Who needs hits on a website?

Tell me one article that has done the same for ANY game, I would be glad to know

Are you freaking kidding me? It's the year 2009 and we can't nail down a toggle-crouch option across all games?

And my head copywriter just told me two spaces after a period is technically "outdated"?!?!? Everything I know is wrong. Thank god for Obama, i'm sure he'll fix everything!

I can live with the no toggle I guess. They just need a mod where I can use my 360 contoller & actually have a trigger for shooting games.

Triggers > buttons for shooters, period.

I totally agree with the writer. If you’ve played a game for hours, days, months an yes, perhaps actually years, like we all have done with Call of Duty 4, you're so much into a certain control style that you don’t want get into a new one.

I changed aiming and shooting to L2 and R2 after playing GTA4 (in CoD4 it works perfectly) and would love to do so further in KILLZONE 2, too.

For the developers it should be no big deal to integrate a full costumizable control schema - so PLEASE, Guerrilla Games, DO THAT!!

Greetz from Germany

Sony really does need another mainline shooter franchise. They pretty much gave up after the PS3 generation, and I'm really surprised they haven't tried at another high-profile, singleplayer-centric shooter; even if it weren't Killzone or Resistance.

I miss Killzone while I can see why they still do Horizon has some really good things but I do think that Horizon is overrated imo.

Or how about studios focus on projects that they feel passionate about, and not be forced to make something they have little interest in. It shows in the final product.

It’s still got potential for the modern era. The DNA is all there. The install base is there. The interest is there. The time is now.

Killzone 2 and 3 were farkin brilliant and way better than halo

Too bad they've abandoned em smh, then theres sony barely even acknowledging what us fans want. Every time they sale a certain high amount it get like that with them smh

Because Killzone games are awesome, that's the reason.

New ip after 3'rd horizon please 🙏

Give it to Bungie. The Helghast are awesome enemies and Bungie could make something really cool

not enough interest to keep it alive

I’m beating a dead horse here… but Resisitance FOM gun lay out was so fun, multiplayer was one of my top favorite experiences. Insomniac nailed it and I would love a remaster and maybe a redo with Reisistance 2. They listens to players who were wanting a Halo killer and it kind of lost its character from the first.

Warhawk, if they had just remade the first one not Starhawk which offered nice things like the build and battle.. but Warhawk was the best arcade shooter I ever played. Back when you didn’t have battle passes and you actually had to get certain amount of kills or ribbons to unlock different paint skins on the Warhawks and armor for your player.. Look at the success of Helldivers 2, it’s a fun game and it reminds me of Warhawk in a way. I’ve been wanting a remake or sequel since the beginning of the ps4 gen.. it’s hurts to have hope nowadays. Even with the demise of the studios Sony has a steady fan base.

Killzone game after Killzone 2 play style would be nice

Motorstorm would be epic with the visual upgrade, maybe this game would be a harder sell with the genre being not as popular nowadays..

Resistance franchise, Motorstorm and Dirt 2 which was fun as heck. Add Dead Space 2 as well.

I quickly looked and only saw the words PS5 Remaster and a picture of Fall of Mans logo

Ahhhh shit, well maybe one day

Resistance 1-3 remastered with online

Kill zone 1-3 remastered with online

God of war PS3 games and PSP games collection

Infamous 1-2 with all dlc please we need this. It’s such an underrated franchise and so much potential. In this age of super hero media craze Sony should utilize infamous

White knight chronicles 1-2

Warhawk and starhawk

Motorstorm series

MGS4

Easy money would be to remake Resistance and Killzone series, rather than just a remaster. And PS5 desperately needs some couch co-op shooters so this would scratch that itch.

Infamous 1+2 and KZ 2+3

Deus Ex Human Revolution

GTA IV needs one.
Still stuck on PS3 and 360.

PS3 ended up been a beast of a console, slow out of the gate, picked up steam, smashed through the finish line. The 1st PS3 slim is still one of my favourite consoles. So solid, great games, by the time GTA5 and the last of us had come out it was a clear winner for me

Nice to see that they included Pupetteer in this list.

"PS3 may not have been the strongest generation"

Meanwhile...just looking at exclusives alone and not even third party titles

Uncharted was born
Demon's Souls was born
Metal Gear Solid 4
God of War 3
The Last of Us was born
Little Big Planet was born
Warhawk
Killzone 2 and 3
Infamous was born
Resistance was born
Motorstorm was born
Gran Turismo
Heavy Rain
Journey
Shadow of the Colossus returned paving the way for the remake in the PS4 generation
PS Plus was born

Sorry bud, but the PS3 generation was amazing and featured the greatest console comeback in history.

That said, I'd love it if Warhawk returned or Metal Gear Solid 4. It needs to not be shackled to the PS3 generation anymore. A Killzone 2 remake would be insane with modern graphics and that art direction.

I really miss this gen of gaming. It felt like the last truly "great" era for videogames before the modern approach really took hold.

The PS3 was such a glorious console. The UI, the games, the free online...just incredible.

Add Mag to that list.

I would pay good money for a Warhawk remake. Socom too. The last Socom game just didn’t do it justice. Folklore could use a remaster or remake as well.
Several other titles I would like to remade with the amount of visual fidelity the current gen has over the past consoles it could help articulate the games that we’ve loved growing up. I would love even some ps2 titles to remade.. Dark Cloud from ps2, Legacy of Kain series but don’t know what will come of it sense it was bought by Embracer group and all there layoffs.

This strategy is exactly what helped ruin Xbox. Sony more than Microsoft know when to let a franchise go and that is important to keep things fresh. The old games are there if you want to play them.

Resistance series and Killzone 2 & 3 remasters/remakes. Make it happen. They will print money.

FF13 is top of this list for me. No matter your opinion on it, it being the only numbered offline FF out of all 16 not to be on new consoles is odd. GTA IV would be great too

The only reason my PS3 is still connected is because of the Resistance, Heavenly Sword, Motorstorm games that I still love to play. I am for remaking or remastering them.

Would absolutely love a remastered collection of the resistance games

Resistance 1-3 and Killzone 1-3 too. Folklore and 3 Dot Heroes are underrated gems.

Why remaster games that ps5 players can't access when you can remaster a 4 year old game like tlou2 that was already patched with ps5 improvements

Would love a remake of the first Resistance game and also Tools of Destruction.

A gem of a gen, imo! So much IP to pluck.

Infamous 1&2 will sadly always be ignored by Sony, not even a ps4 remaster the whole gen, smh but uncharted, horizon, even days gone had next gen upgrades sheesh 🤦🏽 mane even tho Sony is still doing pretty good in the console business they are a lil big headed lol, I never played the resistance series but it would of been dope to see those games updated as well, we fans get lil surprises here n there but things we really are into having and being vocal about gets passed over like a mf 🤣😩

Remasters are a waste of time and developer resources. Real Devs make new games.

God I would live a Killzone or Resistance collection. Really hoping for a new one in either franchise down the line, loved both series.

I’d say new sequels instead.

Got be resistance /prototype as well

How much prefer the killzone universe to that of Horizon's.