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Spider-Man 2 Has an Avengers Problem

Even though the focus of Marvel's Spider-Man 2 is on everyone's favorite web-swinger, the lack of anyone from the Avengers seems pretty glaring.

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Vengeance1138926d ago

Did gamerant forget the game is called Spiderman 2 and not The Avengers? Seriously surprised that a game called Spiderman 2 only focuses on yeah know... Spiderman and everyone around... Spiderman?

Avengers are hugely overrated and uncessary.

-Foxtrot926d ago (Edited 926d ago )

The issue is Insomniac will go out of their way to hint at other heroes and the shared Universe through Easter eggs but will refuse to show anything of it. They also don't write in any dialogue into their story to explain their absences whether it's a small scene of a news reporter talking about it on the TV or a passing comment by Peter. In the first game they explained it as they were all at the West Coast.

However the Avengers aren't the issue, it's Street Level Heroes

This game could have been great with the odd mission from Daredevil, Luke Cage, Iron Fist, Jessica Jones, Moon Knight, Shang Chi, Daughters of the Dragon etc then seeing them help civilians out during the big set piece ending.

Instead we get to play as MJ shocking people as she sneaks around, doing random ass requests at Mile's college or spray painting art as Hailey. Something like helping Daredevil while he infiltrates a Fisk owned warehouse as his henchmen are preparing to break him out or you're investigating a bunch of criminals dying horrific deaths and you find out it's the Punisher taking his revenge on them looking for the people who killed his family.

It can still focus on Spiderman while showing a few other characters, its not going to kill the game.

darthv72926d ago

I am reminded me of the old N64/PS1 game where you occasional ran into other heroes throughout the city. that was a cool aspect and did not detract from it still being a spider-man game at all.

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LastAvenger925d ago

Or save it for another game. But then narrative will be that Marvel is getting milked especially if more games come after Wolverine.

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-Foxtrot925d ago

@ graniteclover

You know what is an issue?

You creating multiple dupe accounts to say the same thing then get marked for SPAM.

Funny huh…

Be a man and just say it on your main. Jeez.

SDuck925d ago

Batman Arkham did the same and nobody complained. It's a Spiderman game, it doesn't need any other heroes in it

chobit_A5HL3Y925d ago

they don't need to write why any other superheroes are/aren't there because it's a spider-man game, and because of that, spider-man can handle it. avengers deal with avengers-level threats, and everything in the game can be promptly handled by the characters being focused on in the game. if the game was like, "oh man, this villain is beyond my capabilities, only the avengers could possibly defeat it", and galactus showed up, and no one came to help, THEN you could argue why other heroes don't lend a hand. but that's obviously not the case.

the whole point of good story-telling is to present a challenge that the protagonist struggles to deal with at first, and then is eventually able to overcome it. that's what makes them heroic. people are so caught up in everything being a cross-over now, that they can't just appreciate a single hero being focused anymore. the game mentions other heroes because they exist in the world, but aren't immediately needed with what's currently going on in this particular game/story. the whole point of the easter eggs is just to be like, "cool, they mention that they exist". they're treated as small cameos and should be left at that.

on top of that, superheroes can deal with a lot of shit. that's literally why they're around to begin with. defeating villains in crazy ways and in ridiculous scenarios is just another tuesday for them. you don't call your friends and co-workers for every little thing, especially things that you know you can handle. it'd be like building a desk from ikea; would it be easier to have multiple people working on it? of course it would. do you NEED multiple people helping you to do it? no. you're fully capable of handling it yourself.

you don't see batman calling the rest of the jla whenever the joker or any of his other arch nemesis shows up, do you? superman could easily just fly by and instantly take them to arkham within a matter of seconds. these are comic book superheroes. let them do and be comic book superheroes.

Seth_hun924d ago

There is one, a note from Wong :)

Profchaos924d ago

If I recall correctly the first games did let Peter give a passing comment about the Avengers being away on some mission in a fictional country when you first climb Avengers tower. But also with remembering that this is insomniac universe and not the MCU on top of that we do know that Spider man will share the universe with the X-Men

sadraiden924d ago

They're not refusing to show it, there are LICENSES that they don't possess.

Disney and Sony. It was in all the papers.

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KwietStorm_BLM924d ago

The Avengers are absolutely not hugely overrated, but it is unnecessary to force them into everything since the MCU. The Marvel universe is a big place, even though Spiderman was a part of the Avengers.

thorstein924d ago

Even worse is that this article follows the same thread as a thoroughly written article published the day before on GameInformer. I even thought that it was the same article.

VincentVanBro926d ago

Thank god the Avengers don't show up. Sick and tired of them.

Stanjara926d ago

Spidy got 99 problems, but Avengers aint one.

Christopher926d ago

This is the opposite of a problem. We need to stop throwing more and more outside characters into these games. Keep it to the core Spider-Man characters and if you want someone else, make a game about them rather than shoe-horning them into games just for the sake of fan service.

darthv72926d ago

...that is what these games are at their core... fan service.

Christopher925d ago

But not just for the sake of said fan service, as I said above. They take time to write stories, develop attachments, and create gameplay to properly show off those characters. Something thrown in just for the sake of fan service doesn't have any of that. It just exists solely to be recognized and not for any other purpose. An Avenger popping in for a minute does nothing other than to present that character. It doesn't add to the story being told. It's not enough time to develop relationships or associations within this world. It just is fan service.

The easter eggs are perfectly fine ways to do what the author wants. From Avengers Tower to F4 building. It's their and you see it, but it doesn't affect the world or the story in any other way let alone waste time with design, voice over, modeling, and animation work.

Crows90925d ago

No. At the core it's a good game.

isarai926d ago

If anything, sounds like a Marvel/Disney problem. I mean I don't really want a bunch of cameos and missions from other characters, but it is odd that this sequel had less easter eggs and references than the 1st game, in fact a lot of them were removed. Only reason I can see that is at the demand of Marvel/Disney

-Foxtrot925d ago

I love how Taskmaster was shown on Kravens computer screen as a target, a guy from the first game and he's not even in it

Eonjay925d ago

I mean isn't that an Easter egg in and of itself?

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PlayStation Plus Game Catalog for February

The PlayStation Plus Game Catalog lineup for February includes:

🕷️ Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
🏎️ Test Drive Unlimited Solar Crown
🐲 Monster Hunter Stories
🐉 Monster Hunter Stories 2: Wings of Ruin
🐺 Neva
🚲 Season: A Letter to the Future
⚔️ Echoes of the End: Enhanced Edition
🍛 Venba
🏉 Rugby 25

And joining the Classics Catalogue:

🤖 Disney•Pixar Wall-E (PS2)

All of these will be available to play 17 February

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maximusprime_85d ago

Solid line up.

I knew TDU SC eventually come on PS Plus. Glad I cancelled preorder for Astro or instead.
I heard TDU SC was a mess at launch. Did it improve? I'm going to give it a try

Grayson07685d ago

This is unrelated to the actual post, but can anyone tell me what happened to this site? It used to be the best place to get news, but now it seems like barely any big news comes through, there's little discussion, and it seems to be dying overall. I know there was awhile where I couldn't access the site, but that's been taken care of for a long time. What happened?

Nyxus85d ago

There are a lot of technical issues and it doesn't seem there are many people left who approve stories, so they take a long time to get approved, if they get approved at all.

Eonjay85d ago

Money. It was sold to someone who wanted to maximize the ad revenue while investing nothing into the actual site. Money killed it.

lodossrage85d ago (Edited 85d ago )

I'll add to what Nyxus and Eonjay said

Another reason is trolls are allowed to run rampant. So the few times discussions might happen, they get derailed fast.
There's also the fact that they're more strict on what gets approved now compared to what they were back in the day.

1nsomniac85d ago

Site’s been slowly turning to garbage over the past 5 years. It’s currently almost unusable. Full of utter shit adverts covering everything. You cant even access your profile notifications and it’s been like that for what must be over a year now. It really has become an amateur shit show here.

maximusprime_85d ago

True, I tried opening "my submission" and it opened someone else's list of submissions...

Chocoburger85d ago

An endless amount of rude trolls, along with terrible and inconsistent moderation. I once got banned for saying S***, but then there are other people who can drop F-bombs and not get banned. Mods also punish the wrong people often, just stupidity all around. I stopped submitting stories and I rarely comment these days due to the lack of proper moderation.

DEKUX1285d ago

Always thought this was just a Sony pony troll site lol. But it used to be nuts. I used to check this site every day same as siliconera. I do still check here and there but yeah ain’t what it used to be

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Eonjay85d ago (Edited 85d ago )

Love the article description!

Also someone had the foresight to put Neva on there... and monter hunter Stories. Solid additions all around.

MrBaskerville85d ago

They had a strong classic library last year, I don't hope they plan to double down on disney releases again this year, like they've done before.

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The 10 Best Superhero Games To Play Right Now

From Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 and Batman: Arkham City to breakout hit Dispatch and new Marvel Cosmic Invasion, these are 10 of the best superhero games you can play today.

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Here's How Marvel's Spider-Man 2 Holds Up on the $1,000 ROG Xbox Ally X

YouTube tech analysis channel ElAnalistaDeBits has made a comparison video, showing off Marvel's Spider-Man 2 running on Steam Deck, ROG Xbox Ally X, and PS5 (performance mode)

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Christopher206d ago

A noticeable improvement over the Steam Deck, but those reflections are hilarious. You're definitely paying for better quality with that hefty price tag. I do like that density isn't really affected by quality, though.

darthv72205d ago

For the performance they were going for, increasing the reflections would not have been viable. The deck and rog can certainly be taken further into the quality mode, but obviously performance takes a huge hit..... but it does look good on a little screen.

shadowT205d ago

Yes, it runs somehow in low graphic resolution and with very limited effects. $1000 for this quality?

drivxr205d ago (Edited 205d ago )

Looks impressive for a handheld that lets you play anywhere other than a living room or a desk.

XBManiac205d ago

It works best with Steam OS, so don't despair.

darthv72205d ago (Edited 205d ago )

...or the PS portal