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Developer Explains Why Starfield NPCs Look Like They’re Dead Inside

Playing Starfield and wondering why the NPCs look like they’re dead inside? One developer reckons they’ve worked out why.

MrDead975d ago

The game is f**k ugly, not just the faces, flat blurry textures everywhere.
Here are some random pics of what it looks like on PC, I'm running it at 4k high settings with DLSS mod.
https://postimg.cc/mtVkVtFt
https://postimg.cc/fkNYrSkK
https://postimg.cc/67Vp2qwW
https://postimg.cc/5HWt2vhK

MrDead974d ago

Why? I paid £80 for a game in 2023, I expect a game that is optimised and doesn't look like a blurry ugly mess.

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InUrFoxHole974d ago

No. Let that man do him. It's adorable

343_Guilty_Spark974d ago

All they know is hate.

Game doesn’t have character models look as detailed and rich as say Horizon but to call the game ugly is wild.

fr0sty974d ago

Game doesn’t have character models look as detailed and rich as say Horizon (on PS4) but to call the game ugly is wild. - Fixed

ChiefofLoliPolice973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Sorry but he is right. That Creation Engine is REALLY showing its age. Plus the fact that you got 60 disagrees should be enough to tell you something...

MrDead973d ago

@InUrFoxHole

Not as adorable as seeing the attempt of fanboys trying to belittle any criticism of the game, you guys are all in a fluster.

bloop973d ago

MrDead, maybe you just need to upgrade your rig like Todd said. Stop being poor and go out and buy 4 4090's immediately.

neomahi973d ago

InUrFoxHole - You're a dude, right?

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Eonjay974d ago

Well since you are playing on PC and already using mods, check out the new texture mod.

andy85974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Shouldn't have to use a mod to fix a brand new game. It's 2023, games shouldn't release with Xbox 360 textures

dumahim973d ago

textures won't fix a bad model or animation. I think the hair is actually worse.

andy85974d ago

What is with those textures?

jeromeface974d ago

you do know dlss makes things blurry, right?

MrDead974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

It looks blurry because they didn't set the negative mipmap bias which is required to avoid blurry textures... which has been fixed by this mod https://www.nexusmods.com/s...

badz149974d ago

do you even know what DLSS is?

wolf581973d ago

Wow i saw your pictures and it looks worse on my xbox series x on my oled 4k tv...i mean worse resolution, blurrier textures,30 fps...thankfully i play it on gamepass...the worse for me is that the game havectoo many loading screens, 30 fps and many times i see npcs with the exact same faces....BUT if you can see past these classic bethesda parameters there is a very good scifi game with very good shooting system that you can enjoy for unlimited hours....

anast973d ago

I agree. I would feel like someone hustled me too. It's not a good feeling.

Anyone defending Starfield at this point are sucking up to the boss. It's like two old toothless ladies fighting over whose King is better. Yeah, it's that sad.

Nineball2112973d ago

You guys are really strange. It’s a fantastic game.

anast973d ago

"You guys are really strange. "

You just proved my point.

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GotGame818973d ago

The faces don't look bad in motion. Ever pause your TV and look at actors faces? They can look horrible. Also the game doesn't look blurry on my TV at all. I have a 65inch 4K 240hz, TV with HDR plus. I've only played a couple hours, but so far like it.

MrChow666973d ago

damn...those npcs are hideous, the way things are going today I wouldnt be surprised if people looked like that in the future lol

Asplundh973d ago

Wait... So after all that complaining about how greedy MS is and how their trying to eliminate competition... You still bought the game?

MrDead973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Why wouldn't I buy the game? Support the industry, not punish those who have no choice who they are sold to... It's not like I've been on here telling people to support the game on PC, oh hang on, I have been saying that! Why would that be do you think?

Stop listing in fanboy then your hearing might get better.

Asplundh973d ago

Why wouldn't you? Idk maybe because you've going on and on about how bad these acquisitions are for gaming.

"We must not stand for this consolidation guys!"

*Proceeds to give money to the company that's doing it..*

And if you're "listening" and "hearing" these comments, you might want to go see a psychiatrist.

MrDead973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

So I'm not allowed to support Bethesda because MS has banned them from releasing games on it's most profitable console platform!?!?!?!

Do you know what happens to divisions that don't perform, especially in corps like MS? Bethesda has lost it's independence as a publisher and a major source of income thanks to MS lets hope it doesn't lose anything else.

Go fanboy in someone else's ear. I can see why they refer to you guys toxic.

Asplundh973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

What ever you say to feel better about it. You bow down to those you speak out against, it's just weak.

MrDead973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

"What ever you say to feel better about it. You bow down to those you speak out against, it's just weak."

Is this meant to be a troll or are you really like this, because damn kid you have issues. "Bow down to those you speak out against" Supporting the people that make the game in spite of the publishers owner is a negative to you!?!? Who do you think would come off worse if people boycotted a game because they don't like the owners, MS or Bethesda?

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Terry_B973d ago

Your fault if you bought a pc game for 80 pounds without waiting for reviews and performance tests of the pc version from a developer like bethesda.

MrDead973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Yes I guess I should have read the reviews...Unfortunately thanks to MS's very selective reviews we had titles like this: "Microsoft exec says Starfield has 'the fewest bugs any Bethesda game ever shipped with", "STARFIELD IS BETHESDA’S LEAST BUGGIEST GAME TO DATE, SAY SOURCES", "Starfield is Bethesda's least buggy game at release" and then sites failing to list all the bugs or even mention them.

Unfortunately I was reading the wrong reviews and should have waited for the right ones to come out.

Northpoint973d ago

Not just the faces, the clothing and hair style choices of majority of the NPCs look fugly. I don't want to be immersed in that kind of virtual world.

Terry_B973d ago

Learn from it, better wait at least a week before buying a new game. In these times its sadly just better..at least for the AAA games ..and especially those developed /published by companies like Bethesda.

Viljong973d ago

The textures are incredible. Maybe its your "mod" one of the best looking games around.

Viljong973d ago

Yea resolotion scale at 50%. And there is no setting for textures they are always very detailed and high quality. Also the PQ is very clean no jaggies, shadows very high quality etc.

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Elda974d ago

The guy in the pic on the right is from Tim & Eric's Awesome Show.

anast973d ago

I think he is "the internet historian".

Phoenix76973d ago (Edited 973d ago )

Internet historian uses "hide the pain Harold" image. The real Harold I believe is Norwegian/Swedish (could be wrong) and was asked to help a friend out who was selling office furniture by posing for catalogue pictures.
Like anything that gets put on the net, he soon found fame, even if he didn't expect it lol
Historians vids on NMS, Fallout 76 and Cost of Concordia are some of my all time fav vids

anast972d ago

I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I discovered him through the 76 video. I enjoy most of the stuff on that channel.

Kaii974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Gameplay aside, Creation Engine doesn't need tweaking, It REQUIRES overhaul (which was said multiple times when FO4 shadow dropped).

I don't want the next Elder Scrolls running on this obsolete engine, peace out. :p

Aussiesummer974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Oh you know it will.

zeuanimals974d ago

Yup. Can't wait to be told about an amazing, bustling city in TES:VI just to find it's a few buildings and a wall cause they're still lugging around an engine that can't handle anymore than that. Meanwhile, I just replayed The Witcher 3 and Novigrad is literally big enough to get lost in for weeks, just doing stuff. I forgot there was a whole open world outside those walls.

TheColbertinator974d ago

Skellige was full of surprises in particular

KillBill973d ago

"Is Creation Engine 2 new?
Bethesda's first new IP in a decade, Starfield, is groundbreaking because it debuts the all-new Starfield Creation Engine 2 at its core. As the successor to the original Creation Engine, the Creation Engine 2 is an overhaul that is a significant leap in technological advancement for the gaming industry."

This isn't using the old Creation Engine. It actually is using an OVERHAULED new Engine. Know what you are talking about before arguing your point.

And yes it is MILES ahead of what the old Engine was. As well is Starfield.

lucian229973d ago

Miles ahead? Lmao in what regard? Having a less seamless experience than any other game Bethesda has ever made? Loading simulator is not a way forward lmao. All they did was try to update the engine but it needs to be destroyed and a new engine made completely.

PapaBop973d ago

You copy and pasted that straight from Bethesda's marketing team.. I couldn't care if it's overhauled/new/old/stolen from the future, the game engine feels last gen and that's the problem.

purple101973d ago

Surely new would mean it doesn't need to be overhauled..

You overhaul something old. Like an old car getting a resto-mod.

Hardly anyone's buying a 2023 Ford mustang and thinking "ohh yeh this thing would be great after a massive overhaul"

Phoenix76973d ago

If you dress a turd in a tuxedo, it's still just turd. Just in a tuxedo

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babadivad973d ago

Already been confirmed that it will be. I remember back when Starfield was first announced and was said to be running on Creation Engine. I said this was a bad sign because of how ancient the engine already was.

This was WELL before it's exclusivity. Everyone on here told me I didn't know what I was talking about. It was Creation Engine 2. Something completely different. It's completely overhauled.

When they showed their first trailer(still well before exclusivity) I mentioned that it looked like the same Gambryo jank that's backed into its core. Again I was shouted down as if I had no knowledge of what I was talking about.

I do like Bethesda games. I like them for their jankiness. At some point, you need a modern game engine for modern games. That engine is too long in the tooth. You can only stretch it but so far.

It's reached end of the line. Hopefully after Elder Scrolls 6, they will change things up.

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Stanjara974d ago

The game is heavily outscored which is evident in a 45 minute end credit role.

There are about 27 companies that are mostly situated in Ukraine, Vietnam and India.

I would be surprised if Bethesda did more than a concept art for this game.

It just works.

Aussiesummer974d ago (Edited 974d ago )

Man what an ugly mess of a game, zero hope for the next elder scrolls.

KillBill973d ago

Zero hope because it won't be available on your system of choice maybe? lol

Stuart5756973d ago

new systems are easily bought, if the games on that system are good

kayoss973d ago

You act like he cant just go buy an xbox if wanted to play the game that bad.

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Starfield Update 1.000.004 Released on PS5 to Mitigate Crashes; Players Still Reporting Crashing

Starfield on PS5 has just been updated to 1.000.004 to fix crashing issues, but players are reporting it didn't take.

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Starfield Was the Best-Selling Game in the US Following PS5 Release

Senior Director and Video Game Industry Advisor at Circana Mat Piscatella has revealed Starfield was the best-selling video in the US based on dollar sales for the week ending April 11th.

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jznrpg23d ago

For the week that nothing else of note launched.. I’m sure it will sell some copies but look at what released that week

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z2g22d ago

It’s not a requirement to buy games every month or whenever one is released. I don’t think people are going to spend $70+ on something they don’t care about.

GotGame81822d ago

I have talked about not being able to get into this game at launch. I still haven't given it another go, even though I think it looks great and has come a very long way since launch. Some people just want it to fail, even if it is a great game. I know why, we all do.

Starfield didn't just have the best sales for a week, but it was pre-ordered on PS store, with very nice numbers. I really need to start it again, on my PS5 though. So I can see how it is now. It has had some major updates.

I am looking forward to it all over again now.

Huey_My_D_Long22d ago

Its not that people want the game to fail. Its that Bethesda wont ever improve their games if you guys keep calling slop like starfield great games. Pure as that. Formulaic, chasing the trends, slop.

Like Bethesda has fallen off since FO4.

Ive a PC 4070, no interest in Starfield since the beginning since despite Bethesda owning some serious FPS legacy within their ranks...They just like seem to hate good shooting mechanics.

I dont see whats the appeal and thats ok. But how can you guys call it great? By what metric? The story? The Gameplay? The package all together? Hell I'm enjoying Crimson Desert, but I've got my issues with some design choices, but I do think the game is better as a whole than its individual parts. Is that the case for Starfield?
To be honest alot of you starfield stans dont make a great case for yourself, since I've never heard a starfield say what it is they enjoyed about it other just it being another Bethesda game that feels familiar yet new to them. Yall dont make the case on whats so great about starfield that keeps you coming back.
What does it do that makes it great that everyone like me is missing?

Like I wanted to like the Starfield, but after seeing its first trailer, it pretty much came out like I thought it was. Bethesda has been coasting off prestige for years now. and honestly starfield is proof of that.

CrimsonIdol22d ago

I'm fine with the game being janky Bethesda-core etc. For what it's worth it's more polished than previous games have been and the shooting mechanics are fine, feels pretty good even.

What I'm not fine with is it just being completely dull in every way. Even if they managed to resolve the structure of the game constantly sending you back and forth through maps and loading screens it's still going to be dull. The original The Outer Worlds did Fallout in space better, and that was hardly perfect (I haven't played the second one so I can't comment on that). At least The Outer Worlds had some interesting characters, enemies and locations. Starfield has none of that. They can argue that it's more grounded/going for realism or some nonsense (yet it's still doing Star Wars/Firefly style space travel) but it's fundamentally dull.

I dropped loads of money on a copy of this game at launch and I've no desire to get my money's worth out of it, I pretty quickly cut my losses and moved on. I don't know what happened to the writers for Bethesda, I presume they all moved on and have since been replaced by Jenny from accounting.

sweatyrich22d ago

I agree with @CrimsonIdol
I played the game to completed, but it's version of NG+ simply didn't appeal to me, so I never went back to it.
There's base-building, but it really serves no point, other than, there's base building. If you're into that, you have it, but I didn't touch it at all, as it wasn't part of the story ... At all.

The main character models are "ok", but the NPCs are just bad.

And IMO, people shouldn't be OK with a Bethesda game being janky. They're a big company, and should be jank-free by now!

MrBaskerville21d ago

I've given it another go and with the new more modular difficulty i managed to balance it a bit like Stalker 2 and it has been a lot more enjoyable this time around. The free roaming in space also helps a bit. Still prefer older Bethesda games, but it's growing on me
ever so slowly.

Jin_Sakai22d ago

Curious gamers. They’ll soon find out soon enough how trash it is.

Reaper22_22d ago

I dont think so. The games has been well received on PS5. Getting good scores too.

Jin_Sakai22d ago

Digital Foundry showed how bad the game runs even on PS5 Pro and crashes. It can’t even hold 60fps and not a looker to begin with. 🤷‍♂️

Grilla22d ago

I found out. I loved FO4 and wanted to judge Starfield for myself. I should have waited for a sale.

Putte22d ago

It's still as Bad as it was on Xbox. Of cause some playstation user's are curious and because there is a lot of them then the sales are gonna be somewhat okay for small time period. But still a very sad story what starfield turned out to be. Maybe the biggest disappointment in my gaming life.

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Bethesda "lectured" Fallout New Vegas designer for saying the RPG would run at 30 FPS

"It was so offensive to me"

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Jin_Sakai26d ago

30fps sucks. Especially on an OLED.