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Starfield: the Creation Engine evolves to deliver massive ambition, scale and scope

The Digital Foundry verdict on Bethesda's massively anticipated sci-fi RPG.

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MrDead991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

As long as they fixed the drawcall bottleneck problem that's all I care about, It was an endless pain in the butt for modding Fallout 4 especially if you wanted to break some precombines.

RpgSama991d ago

This is a weird review, they are comparing Starfield and the creating engine mostly against Bethesda previous games, not that much other current gen games, I think not fair to compare Starfield or the creating engine to Fallout 4 that came out in 2015.

darthv72991d ago

It makes sense if they are comparing growth in their development. How much things changed between previous games and this one.

crazyCoconuts991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

So, I'm open to differences in opinion here, but when I read this article, I would sum it all up as "apologetic".
Tons of negatives, glazed over with things like "but not unexpected for a Bethesda game" and with a super positive sounding title. You could make a list of the negatives, there are probably a dozen of them, but in such a careful tone. And no mention of the actual resolution before FSR upscaling in the article? Wasn't it like 1440 / 900p on the X/S respectively?
Just saying, like if, say, Guerrilla Games released this...

phoenixwing991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

@crazy
you're not wrong to criticize the game for getting passes that other devs would get raked through the coals over. However, i hear that the sttory is pretty decent for what it is so I'm ok with the game myself. Except, i don't go into bethesda games thinking they deserve a pass but a fun adventure is a fun adventure to me. I have the pc version so i expect to reap the benefits of the modding community to make it a game it should have been with due time.

Bulders gate 3 easily outclasses this game though. I've been playing it on pc and it's just miles better.

Kornholic991d ago

Why are you talking about the story? Digital Foundry focuses on the technical aspects of the game.

pezking991d ago

you're not allowed to like this game around here

Armaggedon990d ago

It is miles better at meeting the expected industry standard. Starfield has its own strengths that exceed other games.

Umb991d ago

Reminds me of the Halo Infinite video where they defended why it looked underwhelming. Though I always het the feeling DF are MS shills.

crazyCoconuts991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

Yeah, I mean, no question: they couldn't keep getting those Xbox exclusive reveal opportunities if they were critical. MS will reward those that play the game and punish those that don't

PunksOnN4G990d ago

Remember when they were gonna remove FPS test comparison between platforms and fps test just cuz LOL... They always give an excuse when its XBOX but PS it better be solid.

anast991d ago

Asmongold's Starfield video: "It Doesn't Just Work" is hilarious. It compares the game to what Todd had said about it when he was trying to sell it.

Obscure_Observer991d ago

Excellent work by Todd and his team on delivering such a massive, gorgeous and fantastic game!

I´m having a blast!

CrimsonWing69991d ago

I’m early in, but I find it kind of boring. I wouldn’t say it’s bad, it’s more like it’s just fine to me… but I’m hoping it’ll click the further I get into it.

arkard991d ago

That's where Im at to. I'm working on the main quest to get the game going and open it up more supposedly. I just flew to Mars to talk to someone for 1 min to just run back to my ship and have to fly to venus.

I'm dissppointed that they still can't figure out how to not have loading between outside and inside.

jwillj2k4990d ago

According to the creator of the game you need to be 130 hours in to start liking it.

KeyAppearance991d ago

Was quite surprised at just how great the game looked at times, I have played fallout 4, skyrim and stuff to death, so those were the visuals stuck in my head, so this was a pleasant surprise.

Some planets especially look so good

Kornholic991d ago (Edited 991d ago )

Am I the only one who feels that this was a strange video for Digital Foundry? A very odd tone for a DF video.

Normally DF examines the technical aspects more critically and then compares the graphics and effects to the game's contemporary peers.

In this video comparisons are made only to Bethesda's previous titles. Which is a bit silly because of course the game is going to look better compared to a 5-12 year old game from the same developer.

343_Guilty_Spark991d ago

None of Bethesdas games have ever been lookers. This is a great looking game just in general. Is it up to the visual quality of day God of War Ragnorok no but the scale of this game is massive compared to a game like that.

There are moments in Starfield that are simply breathtaking. I never got that ever from a Bethesda RPG until now.

crazyCoconuts991d ago

Here's the DF review for God of War Ragnarok... See if it seems like the visual quality sounds comparable: https://www.eurogamer.net/d...

Kornholic991d ago

None of that made any sense in the context of my comment.

Armaggedon990d ago

I wouldnt say its at ragnaroks level, but they are skilled at using lightening to their advantage.

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Starfield Update 1.000.004 Released on PS5 to Mitigate Crashes; Players Still Reporting Crashing

Starfield on PS5 has just been updated to 1.000.004 to fix crashing issues, but players are reporting it didn't take.

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Starfield Was the Best-Selling Game in the US Following PS5 Release

Senior Director and Video Game Industry Advisor at Circana Mat Piscatella has revealed Starfield was the best-selling video in the US based on dollar sales for the week ending April 11th.

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jznrpg30d ago

For the week that nothing else of note launched.. I’m sure it will sell some copies but look at what released that week

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z2g29d ago

It’s not a requirement to buy games every month or whenever one is released. I don’t think people are going to spend $70+ on something they don’t care about.

GotGame81830d ago

I have talked about not being able to get into this game at launch. I still haven't given it another go, even though I think it looks great and has come a very long way since launch. Some people just want it to fail, even if it is a great game. I know why, we all do.

Starfield didn't just have the best sales for a week, but it was pre-ordered on PS store, with very nice numbers. I really need to start it again, on my PS5 though. So I can see how it is now. It has had some major updates.

I am looking forward to it all over again now.

Huey_My_D_Long30d ago

Its not that people want the game to fail. Its that Bethesda wont ever improve their games if you guys keep calling slop like starfield great games. Pure as that. Formulaic, chasing the trends, slop.

Like Bethesda has fallen off since FO4.

Ive a PC 4070, no interest in Starfield since the beginning since despite Bethesda owning some serious FPS legacy within their ranks...They just like seem to hate good shooting mechanics.

I dont see whats the appeal and thats ok. But how can you guys call it great? By what metric? The story? The Gameplay? The package all together? Hell I'm enjoying Crimson Desert, but I've got my issues with some design choices, but I do think the game is better as a whole than its individual parts. Is that the case for Starfield?
To be honest alot of you starfield stans dont make a great case for yourself, since I've never heard a starfield say what it is they enjoyed about it other just it being another Bethesda game that feels familiar yet new to them. Yall dont make the case on whats so great about starfield that keeps you coming back.
What does it do that makes it great that everyone like me is missing?

Like I wanted to like the Starfield, but after seeing its first trailer, it pretty much came out like I thought it was. Bethesda has been coasting off prestige for years now. and honestly starfield is proof of that.

CrimsonIdol29d ago

I'm fine with the game being janky Bethesda-core etc. For what it's worth it's more polished than previous games have been and the shooting mechanics are fine, feels pretty good even.

What I'm not fine with is it just being completely dull in every way. Even if they managed to resolve the structure of the game constantly sending you back and forth through maps and loading screens it's still going to be dull. The original The Outer Worlds did Fallout in space better, and that was hardly perfect (I haven't played the second one so I can't comment on that). At least The Outer Worlds had some interesting characters, enemies and locations. Starfield has none of that. They can argue that it's more grounded/going for realism or some nonsense (yet it's still doing Star Wars/Firefly style space travel) but it's fundamentally dull.

I dropped loads of money on a copy of this game at launch and I've no desire to get my money's worth out of it, I pretty quickly cut my losses and moved on. I don't know what happened to the writers for Bethesda, I presume they all moved on and have since been replaced by Jenny from accounting.

sweatyrich29d ago

I agree with @CrimsonIdol
I played the game to completed, but it's version of NG+ simply didn't appeal to me, so I never went back to it.
There's base-building, but it really serves no point, other than, there's base building. If you're into that, you have it, but I didn't touch it at all, as it wasn't part of the story ... At all.

The main character models are "ok", but the NPCs are just bad.

And IMO, people shouldn't be OK with a Bethesda game being janky. They're a big company, and should be jank-free by now!

MrBaskerville29d ago

I've given it another go and with the new more modular difficulty i managed to balance it a bit like Stalker 2 and it has been a lot more enjoyable this time around. The free roaming in space also helps a bit. Still prefer older Bethesda games, but it's growing on me
ever so slowly.

Jin_Sakai30d ago

Curious gamers. They’ll soon find out soon enough how trash it is.

Reaper22_29d ago

I dont think so. The games has been well received on PS5. Getting good scores too.

Jin_Sakai29d ago

Digital Foundry showed how bad the game runs even on PS5 Pro and crashes. It can’t even hold 60fps and not a looker to begin with. 🤷‍♂️

Grilla29d ago

I found out. I loved FO4 and wanted to judge Starfield for myself. I should have waited for a sale.

Putte30d ago

It's still as Bad as it was on Xbox. Of cause some playstation user's are curious and because there is a lot of them then the sales are gonna be somewhat okay for small time period. But still a very sad story what starfield turned out to be. Maybe the biggest disappointment in my gaming life.

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Starfield: Free Lanes Trophy Guide & Roadmap

The Free Lanes update has arrived! Earn every Trophy in the DLC with the help of our Free Lanes Trophy Guide & Roadmap!

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phongtro123_com30d ago

Solid, practical guide overall. The roadmap structure makes it easy to plan a clean run, especially by separating missables from cleanup. I also like that it flags potential grind points and suggests when to tackle them.

A couple of things that could make it even stronger:

Clarify any missable trophies/achievements more explicitly (and whether manual saves are recommended before certain choices).
Add estimated time for 100% completion and note difficulty settings if they affect progress.
Include brief build/loadout suggestions for tougher segments or challenges.
If applicable, call out any bugs or tracking issues in the update that players should watch for.

Overall, helpful for both newcomers and completionists, just needs a bit more detail in a few areas.