310°

PlayStation Portal solves a problem that doesn't exist

GF365: "Instead of being a portable PlayStation, Portal is a Remote Play device. In short, PlayStation Portal solves a problem that doesn't exist."

Read Full Story >>
gamefreaks365.com
philm87876d ago

Doesn't really explain what this problem that doesn't exist is. Does it mean that there are already plenty of options for remote play? I get a pretty much flawless performance using my phone and Razer Kishi. It would be nice having a separate device for it with a bigger screen, but not £200 nice without Bluetooth.

DogJosha876d ago

So is it just the PC version that doesn't work well? It can lag like crazy while being 2 feet away because it forces it to go through the internet rather than a local connection.

philm87876d ago

Never used the PC version. I use an unofficial app on my phone because the official one doesn't work with a Razer Kishi. Took a bit of messing around with settings to get it working properly over WiFi, but lovely now it does. Main thing for me was making sure my phone was connecting to the 5ghz WiFi signal, and all the other devices connect to the 2.4ghz signal.

CrimsonWing69876d ago

I will say this. I’ve done Remote Play for the jump rope script for FF9 and if your console isn’t hard wired via Ethernet the service drops almost immediately for me. And this is in the same room the router is in…

Wired I have no issues. There is a slight lag and I know this because I see actions on the TV and display at the same time, but it’s only jarring if you look at 2 screens… you get sort of used to it just playing on the PC. I also have my controller connected via USB, so there might be a difference if wireless.

I mean, hey, it works decent for what it is, but in no way is it a way I’d want to play if I have the option to just play on console. Like I said, I only did this for a damn trophy and once I got it, I jumped off immediately.

DogJosha876d ago

@Crimson
I actually tried it wired in on a network that was high speed/ low latency and it still worked like crap and I wasn't able to get the trophy for jump rope. Gotta be near a Sony server I guess.

philm87875d ago

@DogJosha Sony server location won't make a difference for remote play. There's so many different issues going on with different connections, how well the router handles traffic etc. Unless you know what the issue is it's a case of trying loads of things to get it to work right.
I'm sure I'll get a few more downvotes for saying this, but it is possible to get a great experience with very low latency. Standard router tech will improve down the line and handle all this stuff automatically hopefully. I know people who use a backbone and have had a great experience without having to mess around with any settings.

+ Show (1) more replyLast reply 875d ago
jznrpg876d ago (Edited 876d ago )

For the price it’s just an inexpensive option for handheld play. I’m getting it for sure as my wife makes me come to bed with her when she goes to sleep but I can play in bed. Also when my wife and kids are using my TVs I can still play if I want. It’s not going to take over TV play but it will be nice to have. I don’t want to use my phone or any other device.

I’d prefer it to be a dedicated device with remote play option like the Vita but that would add 200$ to it at least.

victorMaje876d ago

Agreed, I think that’s exactly the market for it.
In any home where the TV is already being used by someone, you’ll now have the option to still play your PS5 games.

Only concern will be the battery & strength of the wifi, & I’m not really fond of not being able to connect your own bluetooth devices (i.e. wireless earphones).

All in all I think it’s smart, catering to growing gaming households.

philm87876d ago

I can't see the battery being too much of a problem because the power consumption shouldn't be too high as it's just streaming rather than processing (plus haptics).

Nurket876d ago

4 kids/no lifers/butthurt ppl dont understand what you are saying, hence the dislikes. But yeah, this is gonna sell alot, alot more than VR. Its us, the grown ups, that got the money for it. Makes no sense that Sony would try to sell a 4-600 dollar handheld with all the options people cry after…So many no factors.. it would damage their ps5 sales fx.

Grilla875d ago

Another psp is never going to happen. It’s the same reason why Nintendo went to one platform. Splitting game development to two platforms isn’t feasible anymore.

Angyobangyo875d ago

You sure sound like an adult by the way you write. You're kidding yourself if you think this thing is going to sell a lot. It is a half baked device. Sony couldn't even bother to add Bluetooth connectivity to the device because they want to sell you their proprietary earphones/headphones. I don't blame them, ponies are suckers. The fact that it has to stream from a ps5 and not include cloud streaming is a laughable.

BlackOni876d ago

Can't you just remote play to your phone and use a controller with it?

NotoriousWhiz876d ago

Good luck reading anything on a tiny phone screen if you're playing a game with text.

Guitardr85876d ago

@NotoriousWhiz...

My Fold 4 and attached GameSir controller say hi lol.

876d ago
Outside_ofthe_Box876d ago

I like how you two above mentioned $2000 phones lol

At that price it better be able to say hi 😂

Guitardr85874d ago (Edited 874d ago )

@outsidetnebox

...ORRRRRRR you could be a savy consumer and take my phone's MSRP of $1900...subtract the $1000 trade in I received because I paid attention to the deals...subtract another $400 because of customer loyalty perks...and then subtract another $200 from accumated cellar provider credits.

Suddenly that $1900 phone isn't so much different from the Playststion portal AND it has a much.l bigger screen AND its Android so I can also (allegedly!!!!) use it as.a portable SNES, Genesis, PSX, PS2, N64, 3DS, Wii, GameCube, etc)...

Now I wait for the down votes because what I did makes sense and had some forethought to it haha....

Still haven't figured out how to get my phone to say hi... 😞

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 874d ago
darthv72876d ago (Edited 876d ago )

I'll pick one up too. Im finding it harder and harder to get up the enthusiasm to go into my game room and sit and play. Im more used to kicking back on the couch with my steam deck or switch. Having this to play some PS games seems right up my alley. I still like to pick up the PSP and PS Vita and DS/3DS as well so this will make enjoying more modern games in a casual manner that much better.

Plus i have my game room on its own private network so I wont have to use my main wifi. I wish it supported wifi direct like psp and vita did for PS3/4. Maybe it does... just have to wait and see.

neutralgamer1992876d ago

There is a market for it. May not be for everyone but there will be a good size market for it

BlackOni875d ago

Sure there's a market for it, there's a market for nearly anything. My point is mostly, that we all have a phone and/or computer (hopefully a computer as well) and I've run remote play on a laptop and it's worked surprisingly well. I've even live streamed to platforms while remote playing, which was bandwidth intensive, but manageable.

We have ways of doing this now. There will still be things that are hard to read even on a screen as comfy as this one, unless you're specifically on a LARGE screen (switch for example has the problem of small text, but that's unavoidable unless you're dealing with a huge screen.)

I'm happy that people are excited about gaming in general, I just dunno if this is the product to be hype for. If this could output to another screen, or stream steam games or run xcloud as well, it would make for a much more compelling product, even if it couldn't run games natively from it.

+ Show (2) more repliesLast reply 874d ago
randomvoice876d ago (Edited 876d ago )

Written by someone who doesn't have kids or a big family. I'm gonna get this just because wife likes to watch TV but have me sit around. I can play this on the side. I know I can do it on a phone or a tablet but there are so many things to setup, connect a controller, ensure your phone battery doesn't drain out etc. which makes me want a dedicated device.

200$ isn't that big a deal in my opinion

Stanjara876d ago

Is that called quality time with your family?

anast875d ago

We got ourselves the next Dr. Phil. Nice job...

DivineHand125876d ago

I fear if I get something like this it will just sit and gather dust. On paper it might sound like it is good for niche scenarios like if the tv is occupied I can still game but in reality, would I want to game on an inferior screen. I am also concerned about the distance I would be able to go from the console because the wifi in the house sucks.

talocaca876d ago

Such a lame article.
I live in Tokyo. The weather is disgustingly hot lately. I've mostly been playing Switch because I can play it in bed (where the Air-conditioner is stronger).
This would make it much easier to play games like FF16 🤷‍♂️

Lionsguard876d ago

And you think there are millions of people out there with this problem and think it's worth spending money to fix?

Old McGroin876d ago

@Lionsguard

And you think his specific problem is the only reason people might be interested in this? You actually think there needs to be a problem to begin with for somebody to be interested in this?

raWfodog876d ago

Why are you thinking that Sony is marketing this product as something that every PS5 owner will buy? They simply see a need that SOME gamers will want it for. Just like with the DualSense Edge which also costs $200. Do you think millions of people out there with the problem of not having a customizable, specialized DS controller? These products cost Sony very little to manufacture and they make profit off of every one sold.

Angyobangyo875d ago

If you live in Tokyo, your aircon is hitting all four corners of your 1LDK.

Show all comments (63)
90°

PlayStation Portal: Best PS5 Games to Play with Cloud Gaming Right Now

Our list of the best PS5 games to play with cloud gaming on PlayStation Portal. From Astro Bot to Ghost of Yōtei.

Read Full Story >>
clouddosage.com
darthv7271d ago

I have been using the portal to play robocop, the plucky squire, Spider-man 2 and GoW Ragnarok. I know many were initially turned off on the idea of streaming games... but people really need to give it a fair chance now. Its way better than when it first launched. Stadia was onto something, But Google is not Sony (or MS) and so they had to take the fall so that the other services could rise.

Neonridr70d ago

I'm willing to wager most people who own a Portal also own a PS5. I'm curious to know how the device performs when solely streaming vs using it via Remote Play.

I guess I understand the benefits if you are away from your house, but at home I don't see why you wouldn't still want to just use remote play.

darthv7270d ago (Edited 70d ago )

remote play is handy if the game you want to stream is on your 5, and not already in the cloud service. I found that certain games may say they are streamable, but only if they are actually still in the service. Case in point... I saw that in my list of games in my library was Jedi Fallen Order. I wanted to give that a whirl but it said it was no longer available. I looked on my 5 and sure enough its still there and so I can play that using remote play, but not cloud direct play. I think its because it was a game I claimed from PS+, and it has since been removed. So it is not 'officially' in the cloud streaming list even though it shows as one I could stream from my library.

So I use the actual cloud streaming side for games I do not have installed on my 5. And it works great in my home. I have not tried it from another location, so I dont know how well internet access is outside of my home network. I get ridiculed for saying this but I use the cloud streaming services of both XB and PS as a way to guage interest in fully installing or even purchasing games. Its easier to load up the game via the cloud because you dont have to sit there and commit time to download/install.

If I like what I'm playing... I will do the full commitment and even purchase. If people dont look at this as trying to replace, but instead as a means to compliment the systems... they might find it benefits them more to use these services as a taste test / try before you buy sort of thing. I dont know why that always seems to ruffle people on here when I express how i use them, but it does.

Neonridr70d ago

@darthv72 - that's fair, thanks for the response.

The_Hooligan70d ago

I mainly play JRPGs or similar games on the portal. Currently remote playing DQ3 and it's great. I did play Spider-Man and FF7 intergrade, just to see how it feels when I first bought the portal and it played just fine. But to me, those games are better enjoyed with bigger screens. So games like DQ3 and Unicorn overlord, to me are better suited for portal because you don't need those quick responses from the controller and they are not graphics heavy that you need TV/monitor.

I did play Ghost of Yotei streaming on Portal today and again it played great. No input lag or anything but again a beautiful game like that to me is better enjoyed on a bigger screen.

Hypertension14070d ago (Edited 70d ago )

@darthv72

You're right about streaming. Once you have the proper hardware setup, it works really well.

I've already completed over 10 games on my portal and currently playing through silent hill, Its just really expensive and not everyone has access to super fast internet.

Abear2170d ago

I’ve been playing Dave the Diver and Deliver at all Costs and these are the best types of games to play on it imo. Stardew Valley is warm on the back burner, cannot wait to try Lumines on 11/11.

160°

PlayStation Portal May Soon Allow Users To Stream Their PSN Digital Game Library Via The Cloud

PlayStation Portal users who are subscribed to PS Plus Premium may soon be able to stream their PSN digital game library via the cloud.

Read Full Story >>
twistedvoxel.com
Neonridr79d ago

I like that they have been able to correct (sort of) one of the Portal's biggest flaws, but it sucks that they restrict these features behind a paywall.

Cacabunga79d ago

That would be a killer app..
right now the cloud streaming library isn’t that big. This would def be something I would gladly use

repsahj79d ago

Yeah. This is useless to be honest. If you have a premium subscription, I am sure many of your games in you library are also in it.

darthv7279d ago

this would be a nice feature to have. I have plenty of games that show as being able to be streamed... just not via the portal. I use another app on my steamdeck that lets me play those but I'd much rather have the real PS controller feel of the portal.

repsahj79d ago

Cloud streaming for your digital library should be included with just the lowest tier only. What's the point of having your gaming library if you can play all of it if you have a premium subscription?

Dandizzle79d ago (Edited 79d ago )

that would be sick!!

Show all comments (17)
210°

PlayStation Portal remote player system update releases today

Sorting games and support for gameplay captures are among the new features.

Read Full Story >>
blog.playstation.com
repsahj282d ago (Edited 282d ago )

At last! One of the most important missing feature is finally here. Pausing the game during rest mode is really needed.

andy85282d ago

Add the full premium library already! It'll be so good

281d ago