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‘Redfall’ Proves Xbox Needs to Make a Major Strategy Change

Redfall's failure might have been avoided if Xbox took a more hands-on approach to the development.

darkrider1099d ago

Stop buying publishers, change leadership, improve the studios they got

Sonic18811098d ago

The acquired Bethesda when they was going down hill. Microsoft helped Bethesda before the ship was sinking

Flakegriffin1098d ago

What has Microsoft done for Bethesda besides purchasing them?

giovonni1098d ago

Has nothing to do with why this failed. The game was already in limbo when it was being created back in 2018. With high turn over and lack of clear direction with Arkain way before MS brought the studio. “The game reportedly suffered because its development team was continually understaffed, with Arkane’s Austin office employing fewer than 100 people, and insufficient outsourcing support offered by Bethesda.” They were hoping the game would be cancelled, but it wasn’t. Now, I know what you’re going to say “ well just cancel it then.” Like that would have mattered.

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isarai1098d ago

MS had a lot to do with it, they could've cancelled it, overhauled it, delayed it, repurposed it, etc all 100% at the go ahead of MS. Either they seen the game was garbage and knowingly sent it out anyways, or didn't spend the time or effort to even know what state their games are in before they ship them.

giovonni1098d ago

@isarai yeah right, and it would of been the same talk that we are having right now. “ oh, MS doesn’t know how to make AAA games” once again the game was in development since 2018. Ms brought them 2021 it’s already deep in its development…. However people bias of MS is gonna believe what they feel is right or should have been done right and just skip over the truth.

shinoff21831098d ago

Ms still in the end gave the go to release it. Doesn't change anything. Ms said yes let's roll

LabRat1098d ago (Edited 1098d ago )

@giovonni just because it was in limbo before MS, doesn't give MS a pass. Their name is now on this game. They could have done 1 simple play through of it and seen it was a train wreck. They have the money to stop, delay, and cancel games (see Scalebound, Fable Legends).

You should not be making excuses for them, they owned the company for years before release. It's not like they bought them and 6 months later this launched.

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z2g1098d ago

no it doesn't. it proves they rushed a game to market to fill a hole from delayed games.... the strategy hasn't even had a chance to really play out yet considering it takes years to make a single game.

Godmars2901098d ago

Putting something out, patching it later, is a strategy they've been doing since before Sea of Thieves. What they've been doing with Windows and other office software.

GhostScholar1098d ago

That game was well underway before the purchase. Had they canceled the game you people would be blasting them for that as well.

giovonni1098d ago

Right, they want to act like the noble thing to do was cancel it in the first place like that would have made a difference with their bias views.

Lightning771098d ago

The same people saying cancel it are the same ppl that'll yell "MS are killing its games! All in the same breath don't ever trust the flip floppers.

Rimeskeem1098d ago

Not our fault they went with a lose/lose scenario. Bad business decision.

giovonni1098d ago

So buying Bethesda was a bad business decision now? When you buy a company, any company things are inherited. This isn’t new, the fact that Arkane isn’t getting any of the blame is simply crazy to me. Even with the evidence thats present that shows arkane had developed, and lost direction way before MS purchased it. It’s still MS fault, yet if they would have cancelled it it still would have been MS fault. Damn if they do damned if they don’t.

shinoff21831098d ago

I think rimeskeem, meant ms releasing the game. Gio your pretty defensive

giovonni1098d ago

@shinoff not at all you’re reading it that way.

Rimeskeem1098d ago

@giovonni

yes, that's called a lose/lose scenario. Thank you for explaining it as I am sure people didn't understand lol

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GhostScholar1098d ago

They have failed at first party exclusives that’s just a fact but I disagree that they suck. I have a series x, ps5, and a switch and I only pick up the ps5 and switch for exclusives. I think game pass is a million times better than ps plus. I prefer the Xbox controller. I play all third party games on Xbox. I don’t think either of the three systems suck, but if I was a Sony fanboy I’d be worried after that showcase Sony bombed. I think we’re seeing that the Jim Ryan era is not about single player first party games. He admittedly is focused on games as a service. Sugar coat that all you want but it’s not good for the future of the games that have made Sony so great the past generation and a half.

franwex1098d ago

I agree with you that the series x is arguably the superior system. By maybe a hair.

But what good is having hardware if the software sucks? Nintendo with the weakest hardware is dominating due to their software. I’m not personally into Nintendo games-but cannot deny that their games sell.

Microsoft needs to also drop the requirement of also supporting the series s. It should be optional-at least for third parties.

Godmars2901098d ago

There is no strategy at this point.

By any real count at this point they cannot make anything in house. Have to buy 3rd party publishers who already have projects going. They've outright given up on consoles, focused wholly on streaming in hopes to create/replace the market where they failed to dominate with consoles.

GhostScholar1098d ago

You do know Sonys best dev is insomniac right? You know a third party dev they bought?

Profchaos1098d ago

Insomniac is great but the best is debatable for my money ive never been disappointed by sucker punch

badz1491098d ago

And Insomniac's best games before the acquisition were...?

Godmars2901098d ago

You know they were generally exclusive to Sony for a good while, right? Rarely made multiplatform titles or had popular 3rd party titles, right? Have done their best work under Sony, versus Halo sans Bungie or Gears getting poorer quality sequels, right?

You remember when Rare under MS was referred to a corpse in a gimp suit every time they were dragged out at E3, right?

shinoff21831098d ago

Always wanna bring this type of stuff up. Lol. I think I looked up insomniac games and naughty dog games from this same arguing. I found it interesting that their best stuff was made with sony. They also were studios not publishers that thrived on the competitors console.

Shadowsteal1098d ago

Sony could've not bought them and they would've continued to pump out Playstation exclusive games like they have since PS1.

What's your point?

GhostScholar1098d ago

I was asked what the best game was before Sony bought them and the answer is sunset overdrive. It was incredible and all
Their games sense then have borrowed from the traversal in that game. That game made insomniac who they are today. I’m sure you wouldn’t lower your Sony sunglasses to actually play it, but it’s legit amazing.

Flakegriffin1098d ago

Insomniac tried making an exclusive for Xbox but nobody supported them since majority of Xbox gamers don’t buy games. There’s a reason they jump that ship and worked a deal with Sony. If Insomniac went with Xbox they’d probably lose 70% of their devs by now and/or will be forced to close up shop.

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Concord, Suicide Squad, Fairgame$ And ‘Vibes-Based’ Failures

Paul Tassi: "Sony recently reiterated its commitment to live service games with one big hit last year (Helldivers 2), one big cancellation (The Last of Us Factions) and one big failure (Concord). It’s no great surprise it is continuing down this road, given the way the industry is trending and the limited shelf life of its famed single player games. But it immediately made me think of a game that Sony is allegedly releasing that I have to believe is pre-destined to fail, Fairgame$."

Alos88521d ago

Fairgame$ feels like it's destined to flop out the gate- that initial trailer felt full of that same instantly-dated 'fight The Man with a ragtag team of weirdos' energy that was prevalent in Sega's Hyenas (which they wisely cancelled.) Unlike Marathon I just don't see this standing a chance.

Nacho_Z521d ago

It will definitely flop, missed the boat by a couple of years. Agreed that Marathon has a decent chance of succeeding it looks genuinely good and interesting.

It can't be sustainable having all these expensive GaaS being DOA being balanced by the odd modest success like Helldivers. The aim is to find the new Fortnite or whatever but it's highly unlikely and seems to be a massive waste of money.

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Concord and the Other Biggest Flops of This Generation

Some of the biggest success stories in the history of gaming have happened during this generation of gaming. At the same time, some of the biggest flops in the history of gaming have also happened during this generation of gaming. To this end, a few games particularly stick out as, unfortunately, disastrous flops for those who made the games, sold the games, and ultimately, for many that played the games.

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ChasterMies639d ago

What a strange, short list. There have been many more games that arrived DOA, were never released, didn’t make their budget back, etc. Why cherry pick these games? Is this list based on the size of internet hate boners?

EternalTitan639d ago

These flops have a similarity that you may not be allowed to point out.

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127maXimus638d ago (Edited 638d ago )

Skull and Bones gets my vote, at this point just completely remake AC Black Flag. If the Concord developers had made the game free to play, and toned down the in your face messaging via the mods and design choices, this game could have been serviceable eventually. I never understand why pandering to 5% of your audience and giving the finger to the other 95% seems like a good idea to these people. They never seem to learn. Disney has lost 1/3rd of its value and they keep doubling down on political messaging. I don’t get it.

BlackTar187638d ago

Some of these companies are paid huge amounts of money to do this stuff. They get truck loads of money to give “the message”
By blackrock and vanguards and multiple other venture capitalists even though it’s been proven over and over they fail.

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Redfall's final update, which adds an Offline Mode, is available and it's 16GB in size

Arkane Austin has just released Game Update 4, the final patch for Redfall which is 16GB in size and adds an Offline Mode.

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PassNextquestion738d ago

I'm not interested in this game but i think it's great they added the offline mode for those who are.

darthv72737d ago

It was okay at first... once they added the performance update it was definitely better.

TwoPicklesGood738d ago

Bury this turd. It’s only good as a reminder of what devs shouldn’t do.

mkis007737d ago

I hate the concept of an announced final update.