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System Shock vs Returnal: What Makes a Cult Classic?

What is it about cult games that makes them what they are? Is it luck or is there some quality they all share? If there is, perhaps we can identify it and use it to find and predict the classics of the future.

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jznrpg1098d ago

Both great games.
System Shock remake seems like it’s been in development forever but I hope it’s made well and doesn’t feel too dated.

I haven’t played it in a long long time it was almost 20 years ago when I was also a PC gamer.

Returnal is also an amazing game. Great fast paced fun and the world , story and atmosphere with top notch gameplay.

Definitely recommend Returnal and if you haven’t played the original System Shock games I’d recommend trying to the remake I have it preordered.

shinoff21831098d ago

I still have to play returnable. I liked their other couple games.

Babadook71098d ago (Edited 1098d ago )

“Returnable”. Lol. Sounds like a back handed compliment there. Damn auto uncorrect.

ravens521098d ago

Ye, you should try it though. Great game and I had no intentions at all on returning my Returnal, ever. Still have to platinum it.

TheColbertinator1098d ago

"Returnable" is the word of the day

Yui_Suzumiya1098d ago

Yeah, I've been waiting for the System Shock Remake since 2009 or 2010. Been a hell of a long journey but every time it gets shown it looks better and better. It would have been cool if Warren Spector would have stayed on board and also produced System Shock 3 which did get unfortunately canceled.

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GhostScholar1098d ago

Returnal was very good technically but had it not been a souls like I think it could have been incredible.

Magatsuhi1098d ago

Returnal is not a soulslike game.

Chevalier1098d ago

How is it like Souls? It's a 3rd person rogue like game. It's different every time you play.

Einhander19711097d ago

It's rouglite still annoying!!

remixx1161098d ago

You have no idea what you're talking abour

blackblades1098d ago (Edited 1098d ago )

Right and if it didn't have the elements its has now it maybe be fine but it wouldn't be returnal as we know it and like. Like if someone know a game is gonna be a souls lite or rogue lite and dont like those games then why bother getting it and coming on the internet with the negativity of it it shouldn't been those types of games.

ravens521098d ago

Lmao you definitely didn't play it lmao

Einhander19711097d ago

Totally agree that's what killed it for me. Unfortunately I can't spend hours on a game i have a life as well. Going back to square one every death pissed me off to be honest. Give me your down votes I don't give a shit, it's my opinion.

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DivineHand1251098d ago (Edited 1098d ago )

There is fun to be had with Returnal and it is a very challenging game that rewards perfection. I haven't completed it as yet and I would not recommend anyone pay full price for this game.

It is simply not for everyone especially when there are plenty of other great PS5 games out there. The problems I have with it is that the story is cryptic and it is a rouge like not a souls game. If you die and don't have any special items in your inventory to give you a second chance, you have to start from the first level. There is no respawning at the last bonfire.

There should be a mode in this game to make it less of a rouge like where you can spawn like the From Software games to make it more accessible instead of losing all your loot and progress.

Not that I am hating on the genre because I enjoyed Risk of rain 2 and Wizard of Legend. What made those games great is that even though they were rouge like, the length of the game is reasonable. Returning feels like a full length game with rouge like elements. A mistake in my opinion.

Chevalier1097d ago (Edited 1097d ago )

I've never played a Rogue Like and don't play all the Souls games and I had an amazing time with this game. I actually managed to beat it too although I did die on the first boss like a couple dozen times so it was definitely a challenge.

My recommendation is early on when Ether cost is low I would us it at the little station thing before you move ok to unlock as many items as possible before the 2nd half of the game because the cost goes up. If you know when to use the items it can literally be the difference between dying or moving forward. Pick the weapon you're most comfortable. Although if you have the Pylon it is a really good weapon on almost every boss and enemy except I think the 4th or 5th boss.

If its still too hard then maybe play Co-op with a friend? It's a little easier when you have a friend who can revive you. Plus having 2 different type of weapons will make it easier as well.

I will say after you get the hang of it it's not too bad. I think I managed to beat 4 of the bosses on a single try. It turned into an absolutely amazing experience.

DivineHand1251097d ago

I think or hope I am at the second half of the game as it is now daytime in the first level and the place looks like ruins in the Amazon. I will give the game another try when I feel motivated enough.

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System Shock Review - Twisted Voxel

Nightdive’s remake masterfully preserves Citadel’s oppressive atmosphere and ingenious UI, yet the Switch 2 port lacks technical refinement.

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Nightdive’s ‘System Shock’ Remake is now available for the Nintendo Switch 1 and 2

"Nightdive Studios — renowned video game remaster developer and subsidiary of Atari® — proudly announced yesterday that its award-winning sci-fi horror action remake of the classic System Shock is now available on Nintendo Switch and Nintendo Switch 2." - Nightdive Studios.

Notellin152d ago

All I've ever wanted in life was Night Dive to remake Deus Ex. Unfortunately we get Aspyr.

TGG_overlord152d ago

That would have been great with no doubt, but instead we got Aspyr...

TGG_overlord152d ago

I agree with you, but sadly enough, we got Aspyr...

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Housemarque Reveals It Has No Plans For Live Service Or Free-To-Play Title

Ilari Kuittinen and Gregory Louden of Returnal developer Housemarque have revealed during an interview with Eurogamer at the studio’s 30th anniversary event last week that it has no plans to develop live-service or free-to-play games, “as long as people are buying premium games.”

kpgs366d ago (Edited 366d ago )

Why would they change? That's not where their expertise is.

Redgrave366d ago (Edited 366d ago )

Didn't stop Sony after acquiring Bluepoint, taking them from renowned remaster and remake quality and sticking them on a GoW live service title that never even went anywhere.

I can't speak to what gives Housemarque the ability to be different, but let's be thankful that they are able to do so in wake of current Sony.

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derek365d ago

That GoW live service game was the dumbest idea ever. I thought they were remaking Bloodbourne or a Demons souls expansion (covering that broken arch stone). Sony was really panicked after that abk/Microsoft news hit. I hope it was a side project for Bluepoint and that there's another one in the pipeline. That GoW game apparently never got off the ground.

Eonjay365d ago (Edited 365d ago )

Blaming Sony for pursuing Live Service when the top 5 games every month by spend and engagement are live service games is illogical. Gamers are telling Sony where to invest so there is a real disconnect between what is said online and what people actually play. Who should Sony listen to? Clearly the logical decision is to listen to people actually playing games and whether we like it or not Sony would be in vioulation of it duty to its investors if it didn't try to pursue LS. People taking out their fustrations on Live Service games by attacking Sony and using it as the industry whipping boy does not fix the industry. You are just telling the rest of the industry that they can keep doing what they are doing because they aren't called Sony. All I hear people say is that they hate live service but every single month the top games are live service. You are all either lying or you don't know what you are talking about. Sony should pursue both SP and live service games.

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