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Redfall Would've Been Better As A Single-Player Game

The nice touches get drowned out in a mess of a multiplayer looter shooter.

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rlow11107d ago

Now this may be the reason it’s so bad. Trying to force live services and multiplayer. Sounds like that wasn’t the plan, but added in later.

Still a mystery why it launched in this state. Either they were forced to launch early or decided to add multiplayer features at the last minute. We’ll probably never truly know.

RpgSama1107d ago

This game was probably a single player game originally and then MS took it over.

Same thing that happened with Scalebound, only they never released that one, at that point MS still cared a little.

_SilverHawk_1107d ago

Because of game pass games are going to be tailor made for the service which means constant monetization in its design.

JBlaze2261107d ago

MS had 0 hands on Redfall.

wiz71911107d ago

@RPGsama what are you talking about ?? It got canceled because of platinum not MS ..

https://www.gfinityesports....

MS didn’t have anything to do as far as development of this game , it was up all to Arkane and Bethesda. Everybody was shouting that this game was in development before MS came when it came out that they canceled the PS5 version , it’s the same when it goes to shit. It was planned since the beginning im the execution just failed.

Obscure_Observer1107d ago

"Now this may be the reason it’s so bad. Trying to force live services and multiplayer. Sounds like that wasn’t the plan, but added in later."

BS! Bad decisions about that game were made even before active production and development started. According to Digital Foundry, Unreal Engine 4 was a bad engine choice that hindered Redfall´s potential from the start due its known limitations when comes to open world games.

JBlaze2261107d ago

Guess who making 10 live service games? answer is Sony

--Onilink--1107d ago (Edited 1107d ago )

Why do people keep saying this game is Live Services?

I literally haven’t seen a single thing about it that makes a GaaS.

The issues that it has are about core design ideas and their execution, it really doesnt have anything to do with Live Services, its just an unpolished and bland Borderlands or MP Far Cry game

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SullysCigar1107d ago

"...a mess of a multiplayer looter shooter." - Dualshockers.com

This site gave Redfall 8.5/10 - a game sitting at an N4G average of 5.1/10 from 40 reviewers.

Now they're calling it a mess, because they were ridiculed for ignoring issues and giving the game a free pass. I haven't checked if it was the same person - I'm not giving them a click and it doesn't matter anyway.

Some scummy sites just want the good clicks AND the bad clicks, because they don't actually care about informing gamers, they're too busy looking after themselves. They've exposed themselves here.

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shammgod1107d ago

100%. Good call out. Journalists are almost all scummy at this point

BrainSyphoned1107d ago (Edited 1107d ago )

I braved the link. It's a different reviewer that has an amazing nugget for all the "its great with friends" people.

"but after playing a couple of hours of multiplayer, I came to a grim conclusion: Redfall just isn’t that fun with others."

One of the players loaded into the intro area of the game without a weapon. Then the npcs needing saved were already rescued making the area a safe zone and the vampire they needed to kill to proceed invincible. They had to exit the game, beat the intro solo and then group back to to get sick of it soon after.

CrimsonWing691107d ago

Yea that’s pretty appalling. It shows their integrity, or lack there of. I’d have more respect if they stick to their guns, but now they’re like that person that a brown moser that will say one thing, but when you say the opposite they’ll quickly change to what you say.

Games media is a fu**ing joke.

-Foxtrot1107d ago

Have you not saw the guys second article defending his review?

He basically says that technical issues isn’t something he points out unless they are really bad

Actual quote...

"That’s why when I review a game, I tend not to talk about the performance unless it’s really game-cripplingly bad"

https://www.dualshockers.co...

Terry_B1107d ago

DS was a good site once, but the owners sold it 2..or 3? years ago. Now its just another random shitty site.

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onisama1107d ago

The game didnt look interesting since the minute we saw the teaser... I was hoping the game will be decent but it released on this state... Its still fun but not what we want from arkane

maybe xbox isn't the one to blame for this one as the game was halfway in development and was built to be a service game,, but xbox still could've stoped the project or reboot it, honestly i cant see how this game could be turned great and should've just put to trash when they acquired the studio

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Concord, Suicide Squad, Fairgame$ And ‘Vibes-Based’ Failures

Paul Tassi: "Sony recently reiterated its commitment to live service games with one big hit last year (Helldivers 2), one big cancellation (The Last of Us Factions) and one big failure (Concord). It’s no great surprise it is continuing down this road, given the way the industry is trending and the limited shelf life of its famed single player games. But it immediately made me think of a game that Sony is allegedly releasing that I have to believe is pre-destined to fail, Fairgame$."

Alos88499d ago

Fairgame$ feels like it's destined to flop out the gate- that initial trailer felt full of that same instantly-dated 'fight The Man with a ragtag team of weirdos' energy that was prevalent in Sega's Hyenas (which they wisely cancelled.) Unlike Marathon I just don't see this standing a chance.

Nacho_Z499d ago

It will definitely flop, missed the boat by a couple of years. Agreed that Marathon has a decent chance of succeeding it looks genuinely good and interesting.

It can't be sustainable having all these expensive GaaS being DOA being balanced by the odd modest success like Helldivers. The aim is to find the new Fortnite or whatever but it's highly unlikely and seems to be a massive waste of money.

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Concord and the Other Biggest Flops of This Generation

Some of the biggest success stories in the history of gaming have happened during this generation of gaming. At the same time, some of the biggest flops in the history of gaming have also happened during this generation of gaming. To this end, a few games particularly stick out as, unfortunately, disastrous flops for those who made the games, sold the games, and ultimately, for many that played the games.

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ChasterMies616d ago

What a strange, short list. There have been many more games that arrived DOA, were never released, didn’t make their budget back, etc. Why cherry pick these games? Is this list based on the size of internet hate boners?

EternalTitan616d ago

These flops have a similarity that you may not be allowed to point out.

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127maXimus616d ago (Edited 616d ago )

Skull and Bones gets my vote, at this point just completely remake AC Black Flag. If the Concord developers had made the game free to play, and toned down the in your face messaging via the mods and design choices, this game could have been serviceable eventually. I never understand why pandering to 5% of your audience and giving the finger to the other 95% seems like a good idea to these people. They never seem to learn. Disney has lost 1/3rd of its value and they keep doubling down on political messaging. I don’t get it.

BlackTar187616d ago

Some of these companies are paid huge amounts of money to do this stuff. They get truck loads of money to give “the message”
By blackrock and vanguards and multiple other venture capitalists even though it’s been proven over and over they fail.

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Redfall's final update, which adds an Offline Mode, is available and it's 16GB in size

Arkane Austin has just released Game Update 4, the final patch for Redfall which is 16GB in size and adds an Offline Mode.

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PassNextquestion716d ago

I'm not interested in this game but i think it's great they added the offline mode for those who are.

darthv72715d ago

It was okay at first... once they added the performance update it was definitely better.

TwoPicklesGood715d ago

Bury this turd. It’s only good as a reminder of what devs shouldn’t do.

mkis007715d ago

I hate the concept of an announced final update.