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Stop Making Excuses For Bad Games

Unless the players and press begin to hold publishers accountable, unfinished games like Halo Infinite and Redfall will become the norm.

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SullysCigar1121d ago

It's refreshing to see such awareness from a gaming news outlet.

We need to avoid another Xbox Live situation - hear me out. Xbox Live was great at the time, don't get me wrong, but it was also a trap. It was YEARS before Sony charged us to pay for online play. They waited, watching. Probably thinking, "this won't end well for MS". Except it did. And MS bragged about it's profits, so Sony were like, "okay then, gamers are going with this, so it looks like we have another revenue stream, whoop whoop!".

My point being, if we don't slap them down and shout it from the rooftops when they take the p!ss (see: Redfall), we'll be sending the message that we'll take it - and at that stage, that's all we're going to get, more crap.

BE VOCAL and push back. Don't play it, even if you already paid for GamePass, or you're upping their player stats and their 'MAUs'. Wait it out. They might eventually make it a good game, then it's worth your time and you can jump in... but I wouldn't hold your breath.

dead_pixels1121d ago

Thanks, you've absolutely hit the nail on the head. If we just roll over and accept this kind of nonsense, opportunistic publishers will just continue cutting corners and pushing out unfinished products. We can't let that become the culture.

solideagle1121d ago

many streamers have abandoned it and are saying they won't finish it. one example is Penguinz0: https://www.youtube.com/wat...

anast1121d ago

This one understands. I can't disagree with any of this.

MIDGETonSTILTS171121d ago

The only thing that moves corporations is money.

Boycott Game Pass until Starfield.

That’ll turn up the heat, but I expect anything short of that to just be met with “don’t worry, the cloud is coming, you’ll love it if you want to play CoD or Candy Crush.”

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MIDGETonSTILTS171121d ago (Edited 1121d ago )

But, and this might be disruptive, M$ is NOT interested in competing with the great games of their competitors. They have a different vision.

They used to not be open to new IPs, which is why Bungie left. Now, they are sooooo open to any creative vision that they have zero standards for their quality. Sony outright canceled the KOTOR remake…. Would M$ ever do that?

And as long as you can get all of Xbox’s $70 games for $15/month, M$ hopes your standards will be closer to those for a $15 game than a $70 AAA system seller exclusive that Sony and Nintendo still manage to produce.

Imagine if Sony wasn’t making games, and we only had Xbox games to set expectations: they’d be telling us that it would be impossible to do what Sony does (makes games as fun as Nintendo and pretty enough to be the envy of pc gamers).

We are lucky that the industry developed differently. We’d only be luckier if M$ managed to actually compete and motivate Sony to strive even further.

anast1121d ago

This is close to the bone.

MIDGETonSTILTS171121d ago

…you can probably tell that I’m tired of buying an Xbox just to listen to my friends play Madden in the Party.

crazyCoconuts1121d ago

Trying to put together his words and actions, the strategy i think is this:
Play to your strengths - Lots of MS $ and Azure data centers.
Therefore, be first in Streaming / Cloud - be the Netflix of Gaming
Use $ to buy up as much of the gaming industry as possible and expose those games exclusively through your service
Eventually reach critical mass so that you have to go there to play your favorite IP. Some of them will be good some of them bad, but when you have most of the big IPs out there, does it matter?

MIDGETonSTILTS171121d ago

Yeah, but they should have to please the current market before shaping the future market. They kicked the can enough.

crazyCoconuts1121d ago

If you buy up the market, you don't have to. Maybe they're thinking - it's not like people won't want to play the next COD, Fallout, Wolfenstein, Minecraft, Elder Scrolls, I could go on lol
It's really kinda disgusting what they're doing... and to think people think them buying Activision/Blizzard is a good thing. I hope they're reconsidering after hearing from Phil directly what he's trying to do

anast1121d ago

"you can probably tell that I’m tired of buying an Xbox just to listen to my friends play Madden in the Party."

For sure. I was even thinking about buying an Xbox. but I think I will wait and see how ESVI turns out.

MIDGETonSTILTS171120d ago

Don’t hold your breath, it’s speculated that it’s the “10 year game” cited for the CMA.

shinoff21831120d ago (Edited 1120d ago )

Midget

Sony canceled kotor, I can't find anything on that. Got anything. Only thing I'm finding is indefinite, switched devs a couple times or some shit like that

Not saying your lying but I could just be overlooking it

MIDGETonSTILTS171120d ago

Yeah I could be wrong, it might’ve been more accurate to say:

“fired two directors and paused indefinitely”.

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Silver_ShadoWolf1121d ago

These days, you find a good indie developer and keep them in your back pocket. There’s some good ones out there like Fromsoftware and Kojima, but they are the ones that won’t associate themselves with he bigger companies. I hope their fan bases keep them open, because I’d hate to lose the developers that actually give a damn.

jznrpg1121d ago

Fromsoftware is owned by Kadokawa and they are a big company actually

bleedsoe9mm1121d ago

Absolutely right Jim Ryan should apologize for Forspoken

VersusDMC1121d ago

Sony doesn't own Square nor did they quality test the game(like Microsoft quality tested Redfall) so that doesn't make sense.

BlaqMagiq11120d ago

Jim Ryan should apologize for a game Sony didn't make?

Thundercat771120d ago

Forspoken is a THIRD PARTY GAME.
Redfall is a FIRST PARTY GAME.

Jim doesn't need to apologies for a game of another company.

Jesus.

FinalFantasyFanatic1120d ago

Square-Enix should apologize, and they that company has put out some stinkers or meh games in the past decade or so anyway, should have been wary of the game based on it's pedigree (e.g. developer).

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Inverno1121d ago

They are already the norm. Ffs early access is a thing, wildly inconsistent, some games never even get done despite money being poured in. They demand 70 dollars, 80 or even 100 in other parts of the world. Well then we should demand they put out a working game day one! Yet we see Starwars getting near perfect scores, only after do we see sites speaking of how technically buggy it is. Wtf mention that in the review, lower the scores, inform your audience.
Also let's not pretend Redfall is getting treated fairly, cause it's not. The whole 30 fps thing was blown out of proportion, sites just further exploiting it now that it's out. Very selective about what game they throw under the bus during reviews. We've seen it many times now, so many broken games with no mentions of that fact during reviews. Then many of you start praising these sites for doing what they SHOULD be doing for every title.

shinoff21831120d ago

Inferno, I'll agree the 30fps thing was overblown, but it's been shown its got bigger problems then that. I personally don't care about frames per second. This day and age a solid 30 or 60 I'm good. One of my fav games xcom had framerste problems , I didn't stop me from having fun. Only thing I'll add I don't play first person shooters often at all unless its a fallout or bioshock.

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Exclusive Interview: "Halo: Edge Of Dawn" Author Kelly Gay

from paulsemel.com: In this exclusive Q&A, the author of five previous "Halo" novels talks about this "Halo Infinite" sequel story about Master Chief.

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rpad122d ago

waiting for Halo: Edge of Seventeen, just like the white-winged dove

beerhound122d ago

These stories do rock a little of my wild heart.

I'll shut up now.

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Halo Infinite Content Support Update Ending on November 18

Halo Infinite's live service updates will be ending with Operation: Infinite set to be released on November 18, 2025.

-Foxtrot203d ago

So much for that 10 year platform plan

darthv72203d ago

...and its barely been 4 years. LMAO

DarXyde201d ago

Halo Infinite?
Hell no, It's Finished.

... I'll see myself out.

crazyCoconuts202d ago

Taking the "in" out of Infinite

RaidenBlack201d ago

... and he broke into the attic again and got his drums back.

Yang_kai202d ago

Well good luck with the next game, been on almost all systems will help the game life and strengthen their community with fresh blood.

RaidenBlack201d ago

no MP till Halo 7, as per leak
Don't know if it'll release parallelly with Halo 2R or Halo 3R or totally after the trilogy of remakes.

Inverno202d ago

Onto the next 10 year promise! When that turns out to be more Unreal slop you can drop it and promise the same for the game after.

franwex202d ago (Edited 202d ago )

I’m one of the 15 people that regularly play this. Oh well. Hopefully the game will retain a small dedicated player base.

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Halo art director leaves studio after 17 years with ominous message alluding to discontent

Glenn Israel writes: "As of today and after seventeen long years, I am officially no longer contributing to the Halo universe. There is little more I can say for the moment, though I intend to share this particular story in its entirety when it is absolutely safe to do so next year. In the meantime, I have a message for anyone and everyone who needs to hear it.

I know that the state of our industry seems dire, but never forget that you are *free to choose*. No illusion of security nor promise of wealth or fame or power is worth trading away your health, your dignity, your ethics or values - and no one can force you to. Stay strong, take evidence when necessary, and find where you belong."

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Bathyj230d ago

My god.
There's a story for next year.

VenomUK230d ago

I’m really disappointed to learn there are still people/morale problems. I thought the whole point of rebranding 343i to Halo Studios was to signal that real changes had been made - not to cynically rebrand to paper over the problems.

I really hope the Halo CE remake is great and gets people hyped for the future of the series.

DarXyde229d ago

It's inevitable with the modern landscape. Even if some issues have been assuaged, new ones crop up all the time.

I'm willing to bet AI and the lack of regulation is causing substantial upset.

shinXseijuro230d ago (Edited 230d ago )

He said something very marking . We tend to complain a lot about the industry but deep down I realize that we never have we been offered this crazy amount of games all available for you to play now . You can literally play any sorts of games in 2025 . Nobody is forcing you to buy the latest COD or the latest BF . You’re more of a 8 bit cozy gaming guy there’s a whole niche of modern games for that . You like micromanaging there’s games for that . I feel like we have been spoiled so much we just stopped being realistic and thinking for ourselves . We follow trends cry about stuff online when you are the buyer you have the power .

Notellin229d ago

I'm not buying any games until another Immersive sim is made.

PhillyDonJawn230d ago

....wth happened over there?
Does this confirm a new Halo by next year?
What did they want him to do that made him feel it was morally wrong or a insult to his integrity?

-Foxtrot230d ago

Well how about that, a name change doesn’t fix internal issues

Who would have thought

jznrpg230d ago

MS was throwing money around for a long time but now it’s time to pay the Piper.

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