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Sony confirms more PC ports are coming, because it's making a ton of money

Sony reaffirmed that it will continue to release first-party games on PC, and it's not hard to see why.

kenpachi993d ago

"because it's making a ton of money"

not likely most ps games on pc break past 1 million number they spend more money fixing shody ports like tlou on pc

"It's impossible to say exactly how much of the jump can be attributed directly to PC game sales" or the fact ps5 consoles or more in stock now than before

GotGame818993d ago

A lot of gamers prefer PC. For one upgrades come out far more often than consoles. Playstation, and Nintendo consoles do not have mod communities either. Xbox does, but it isn't as large as, on PC.

ZycoFox993d ago

Keyboard and mouse IMO is almost essential for certain games as well, like RTS, management/builder style games, and of course FPS.

ManMarmalade993d ago

I like using my PC to play snes and ps1 games haha

VariantAEC992d ago

If that were true most gamers would be on PC primarily...

But they aren't!

darthv72992d ago

So far the ones they have released work pretty good on steamdeck. Im not going to complain if they keep that trend going.

Yui_Suzumiya992d ago (Edited 992d ago )

I only use my laptop for eroge (18+ visual novels) and everything else is on my Switch OLED. FPS, RPG, horror and visual novels.

MADGameR991d ago

Yea but if you are the average PC gamer that's got a rig that is only going to run those PS5 games at 1080p 120FPS, it is a waste of money to settle for an average PC.

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ModsDoBetter993d ago

Official PlayStation PC Sales Numbers Revealed by Sony (2022)

Horizon Zero Dawn
• 2.39m
• $60 Million in Revenue

Days Gone
• 852k
• $22.7 Million in Revenue

God of War
• 971k
• $26.2 Million in Revenue

Kind of blows your “not likely most ps games on pc break 1 million” out of the water there.

Minute Man 721993d ago

You think GOW would have sold more

Machina993d ago

The GoW figure was revealed less than two months after it launched, which is why it seems low in comparison.

Days Gone was 10 months of sales, and Horizon was 17 months.

Philaroni992d ago

Did Returnal numbers every get posted? I feel that type of game would really appeal to the PC player. Bullet hell games and such are very popular on PC. They don't sell too much in the first place but then again they don't cost $300 million to make.

IamTylerDurden1993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

If they didn't make money they wouldn't continue. Simmer on that logic Columbo..

IamTylerDurden1993d ago

Or investigate it. Columbo, u know, Columbo...

jukins992d ago

Its not that the games sell particularly spectacular its just that the ROI is incredibly high since most of the workcis already done. For example horizon had over a 360% ROI when it debuted on pc

ShoryuSwordsman992d ago

It's not that crazy, they're just porting a game and getting mostly profit, because they don't have to spend anything on actually creating a game. It's like being able to profit off of a ten year old movie, just by releasing it in theaters overseas. So of course they would, but I think that trend will only be lucrative to them for games already made.

TheCaptainKuchiki992d ago

1 million extra sales bring them ton of money yes.
The cost of porting and fixing bugs is definitely lower than the revenue brought from PC ports.
Remember that those games already broke even on PS. It's just bonus money for them.

Philaroni992d ago

"not likely most ps games on pc break past 1 million number they spend more money fixing shody ports like tlou on pc"

To be honest I'm not disagreeing with you on the TLOU port, that was done by the same guys that did the Batman PC port and that was kind of shit too, thing is Sony has a great track record of updating and fixing things on PC the best they can as fast as they can, I play on an ultra wide and thus far there games on PC have supported it very well.

Reality is, PC games as of late have been utter shit this year and for a while. Unless its a PC only type of game. The down trend in PC quality of games that are made for PS5 and Xbox first is kind of logical, PC does not make the kind of gaming $$$ it use too. Driver support and accounting for all the different hardware configurations alone is a mess. Hell it too Microsoft forever to fix 'ish' Halo MCC and the latest one on PC. This has always been the case with PC games, very rare does anything come out on PC that works perfectly with out issues, something as simple as one background application could mess things up, they can't force you to update drivers and have to develop things on a wildcard like environment. Though like others here have said, Mods on PC and such and the ability if you have the know how to fix things on your own and improve it is where PC really shines.

To be a real PC gamer you have to put in some work of your own, that is hard if not impossible for many who are not in the tech field to do, thus why all the cash for these places come from consoles first.

I am curious though to those of you here that maybe have AMD cards. Since both Sony and MS use AMD chips and drivers, I'd assume just by the nature from that to PC if you have the same hardware. "Both CPU and GPU" that there might be less issues. I'm on Intel and Nvidia still, and things work rather fine but its older more proven hardware... my other rig is Intel with an AMD GPU and there has been some weird cluster fuckery at times even thought that rig is more powerful on paper.

Just my 2 cents.

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bleedsoe9mm993d ago

Day and date just a matter of time

tay8701993d ago

Eh, I don't no man, That's alot of extra work for each studio. If it does ever happen, it won't be for quite some time.

UltimateRacer993d ago

Day and Date won’t happen except for Live Service that need a big player base to survive. Single player will remain on PlayStation first then be ported a year/ 2 years later or maybe never.

Imalwaysright993d ago

If third party devs can do it for 3 platforms I don't see any reason as to why Sony's 1st party devs can't do it for 2 platforms.

DarkZane993d ago

@bleedsoe9mm It won't happen, you will have to wait 2-3 years for a game to be ported and not all of them will be ported either.

Crows90993d ago

Except horizon fw was 1 year.

DarkZane993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

@Crows90 I don't know what you're talking about, Horizon Zero Dawn came out on PS4 in 2017 and on PC in 2020, that's 3 years in between.

Horizon Forbidden West came out in 2022 and a year later, it hasn't come out on PC and there is absolutely no sign it's coming out soon. In fact, a PC release hasn't been announced at all yet. You will probably need to wait another year for a PC release at least, but it's likely going to be 2 years.

TheCaptainKuchiki992d ago

@Crows90 you people need to check your facts before you even start typing anything. Smh

Aloymetal993d ago

And still most PS gamers wouldn't bat an eyelid, haven't you seen the record numbers of PS consoles sales on a global scale even tho a bunch of Sony 1st party exclusives are on PC right now???

IamTylerDurden1993d ago

The XB rally cry going on how many years now? A scare tactic to devalue the PS hardware. The only day n date in the forseeable future will be service games, primarily f2p.

darkrider992d ago

We already know that doesnt work.

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GamerDude82993d ago

So Microsoft took crap for making their games on pc too. People said it wasn’t a true exclusive. So Sony is doing the same. So they will be losing exclusive games too. How will this be spun now?

gold_drake993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

true

but its .. not quite the same imo

sony is expending out
ms already has their windows userbase.

but yeh. im not a pc player so it doesnt rly matter to me all too much. i just hope they get their pc games in order. ridiculous how broken some of their pc ports have been ha

Shadowsteal993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

You really need it spelled out for you? Microsoft drops exclusives on Xbox and PC day and date. Meaning there's no reason for a gamer to purchase an Xbox if they already own a capable PC, especially when you have a game like Starfield which will thrive off modding which only PC's can truly provide.

Sony are dropping exclusives on PC fairly strategically. Such as Horizon, God of War, and even Spider-Man prior to the release of their respective sequels. Sony isn't hoping to convert PC gamers to Playstation, but rather just purchase a PS5 to play the sequels.

Now to get back to your point, even if you consider Sony "losing" exclusives, the exclusives are dropped on PC when the games are not as relevant and the sequels are already out or about to release exclusively on PS5. So does it really change the narrative that when PC gamers get access to Horizon: Forbidden West, Spider-Man2, and God of War: Ragnarok, PS5 owners will be gearing up to play Horizon 3, Spider-Man 3, and the next God of War?

No spins here, just facts.

anast993d ago

Thank you for fighting the good fight.

ModsDoBetter993d ago

“You really need it spelled out for you? Microsoft drops exclusives on Xbox and PC day and date. Meaning there's no reason for a gamer to purchase an Xbox if they already own a capable PC, especially when you have a game like Starfield which will thrive off modding which only PC's can truly provide.”

Aside from the unnecessary opening remark, I agree with this sentiment. Never looked at it from this angle before.

One example with my mates who are primarily PC gamers over last night for a games night and we played Ragnarok which prompted the discussion around the PC release schedule and how the wait is excruciating.

Philaroni992d ago (Edited 992d ago )

"Sony are dropping exclusives on PC fairly strategically. Such as Horizon, God of War, and even Spider-Man prior to the release of their respective sequels. Sony isn't hoping to convert PC gamers to Playstation, but rather just purchase a PS5 to play the sequels."

Not sure if you saw my other comment, but its both that and the fact the pipelines are very different. You are right they are being smart about it but also I feel they have given quality when they do, and remember this is like the first time we ever seen them do this in mass, and they won't be stopping. I know for a fact we are getting Ghost's here this year or early Feb, from the former collages I have in the industry the main issue is finding teams to do the ports and work for it, thus why Bluepoint and such where a big deal to get, the main teams want to work on the 'next' game and as they should, we all know Sony gives a big damn about quality, that takes time and the masses will get things on Playstation first anyway, I'm in a minority that some times get it on PC as well (Well if I get free codes XD) since I like playing on my ultra wide more then 4k, but I'm a very nich example. I'd like to see there turn around time be faster, and its going to be in the years to come. They are investing in to it.

Edit. What its kind of like when you go to see a movie on the big screen and have to wait a long time for it to come out to DVD or BluRay. I feel like that is kind of the method they are going for but not because they can't just release it, more so that with games its alot more involved. I don't know I feel like that is kind of a good analogy. I was just thinking how Baulders Gate 3... a PC game for sure for me, is coming to PS5 but will come to Xbox once they got issues figured out. It its all more complex then people give it credit for."

ModsDoBetter993d ago

I agree with this.

There’s a double standard when it comes to Sony vs Microsoft rollout to a wider market with PC releases.

The critics trash Microsoft for doing so and sarcastically jab that they have no exclusives as a result, yet move the goalposts when Sony does the same.

Shadowsteal993d ago

Microsoft releases on PC because they NEED to. Historically their first party output has been paltry and left a lot to be desired. Microsoft has been focusing on gamepass and PC to appeal to shareholders and convince them that the Xbox brand is still profitable and otherwise.

Sony has been releasing on PC for completely different reasons. The first thing to realize is Sony could have not bothered releasing anything on PC and they would've still been fine, however they're pretty ambitious and have lofty plans to expand. The releases on PC lets them access an untapped playerbase for them and advertises Playstation and the revenue is used to fund the continued development of 1st party Playstation titles.

The only goalposts being moved here is Microsoft. They're the ones that decided the number of consoles sold is no longer relevant because it's convenient for them. They're 100% committed to gamepass subscribers, however they haven't been reporting the number of gamepass subscribers either, so who knows wtf is going on there, but from the context clues, it can't be good.

Crows90993d ago

Except no goal post has been moved. A double standard assumes the exact same situation. The situations are not the exact same.

ModsDoBetter993d ago

@Shadow
@Crows

I replied to @Shadow’s other comment when I read further down and stated that I now understand the perspective and general reason behind the attitude towards Microsoft Vs Sony in this regard.

Posted this comment before scrolling a wee bit further.

Cheers!

IamTylerDurden1993d ago (Edited 993d ago )

No.

Sony has been roasted for years over PC ports. XB fans have yelled "day n date coming soon" for years. Both were criticized and tbf Sony's output is not the same. They aren't day n date, every game, etc. The situations aren't even the same and IF every game is day n date in the future they will get heavy criticism. Furthermore, MS created a precedent early last gen. Ppl are used to PC ports now. Like when Sony raised game prices they took the brunt of criticism. MS followed but weren't as heavily attacked. That's life. No Sony protection, just differing circumstances.

darkrider992d ago

It's not the same. It's incredible how Microsoft gamers still don't understand. Day one and two year later or before the sequel is launched isn't the same.

That why Sony exclusives sell millions day one and Microsoft exclusive games don't reach any charts.

Thats becaude even launch games still pop up on charts. Because they aren't on pc

Microsoft tottaly cannabalise sales because of the amazing combo GP and pc day one. What an amazing move to be dead last and losing marketshare while the competition is breaking records.

Philaroni992d ago

I agree, and its dumb an unfair to everyone. First off MS was making PC games long before they made the Xbox. Where in reverse Sony only really ever did Playstation games and now are opened up to PC. A HELL of alot of that is the fact both are now using not some weird chips but all x86 and this gen the two systems are closer to a PC then anything, for a long time Sony had this thing with custom chips (still do kind of for some things) but nothing like it use to be. (coughs Cell) MS has been doing what they always have been, Sony is doing it now because well they finally can it makes sense. I don't see who loses here. Its a win win triple double for me at least, and many.

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Furesis993d ago

Believe it or not but most people don't care about petty console fanboy wars.

JackBNimble993d ago

Except here at n4g most people are ragging fanboys

Crows90993d ago

Not the same but similar and still makes them not exclusives. Nobody is spinning. MS fans are the only spinners.

JackBNimble993d ago

Says the die hard sonyfanboy

Crows90993d ago

@jack
Name-calling ...very mature of you.
Nimble maybe but not very bright.

franwex993d ago

It’s a pro Sony site bro. There’s going to be a double standard, but there’s a bit of a difference.

Sony will release on the PlayStation before porting to PC-as that’s a mostly Microsoft platform.

Microsoft will release on PC and Xbox at the same time as it’s their own platforms.

If Sony made PCs with their own operating system (or just an operating system that is widely used) they too would do a simultaneous release.

So to answer the question, why get an Xbox or PlayStation if everything will be available on PC eventually anyway? Because you prefer console gaming and in Sony’s case-because you’re going to play it now instead of later.

IamTylerDurden1993d ago

It's not the same though. Day n date everything for MS is not the same as some games 1-3 yrs after launch on PS. It's not. Just like Stellar Blade is not the same as Bethesda. Third party and or/timed single games vs IP banishment. Stop saying it's the same. It isn't.

JackBNimble993d ago

How will it be spun?
The sonyboys simply tell you pc guys that you got to wait 2 or 3 years before you're going to get a Sony game .

So that makes everything ok right?
Lol

IamFrasierCrane993d ago

How is that spin? That is exactly how it works. The games come to PC years later and then the games are no longer exclusive to their respective console.

On Xbox the games release simultaneously with PC and do not have an exclusive time period. Xbox fanboys like you started calling them “MS exclusives” or “console exclusives” which is fine. (even through it goes against the very definition of the word exclusive)

Yes, everything is OK.

JackBNimble992d ago

Well it used to be the sonyboys bragging rights that Sony games were not on pc , hence they were "true exclusives ".

Then that all changed and you move the goal post big time.

Now you all claim it ain't the same as xbox games because there's a 2 or 3 year wait ... which is bullshit anyways.

I can't wait to hear what you all say when Sony starts releasing day one on pc . Jim Ryan doesn't care what you fanboys think, it's all about revenue, and sooner or later Sony games will be day one.

CBaoth992d ago

um yeah once Sony releases day and date on PC THEN IT WILL BE THE SAME.
Until then IT'S NOT. There's no extra layer to decipher here, how many copies did GOWR on PC sell?

Why do xbox fans always argue apples to oranges comparisons? The other day some Xbox guy tried to equate the No Man Sky launch failure to the Redfall controversy. One's 1st party w/ a year delay and the other was an indie dev who suffered through a flood and had to have computers donated to them. Go figure

Philaroni992d ago

I don't think MS should have got crap for that, the main thing is Xbox runs a version of Windows as its OS and what do most people on PC play on, Windows. If I remember right Sony uses a type of Linux custom OS that is made to interface with there studios game engines. Consider the fact this is the first time, ever we seen any Sony games on PC, something no one thought that would happen is a good thing? MS has had Halo on PC for years, Gearbox did the old 1 and 2 ports of it back in the day. Even had some more maps and such then the Xbox version. MS back in the day use to be kind of PC gods with games, really miss those days but that was long before the Xbox.

Even today MS has tools that helps to kind of 'auto' port to some extent the XBSX to the S to an extent to help devs save time, they do have good tools for that and since its all Windows/Dos based they are in a much more controlled environment. Few seem to know this but MS helps alot of devs when it comes to compatibility and such between versions of windows and getting games to work on there OS. They have always been rather great at that. Anyone saying its not a 'true exclusive' is just fan boy talk, hell maybe way back in the day that made some sense? But now days? The lines are getting more and more blurry with each gen.

Also to your point more direct GamerDude82, All games are made on PC's then compiled to run on the dev kits and so on. I'd not worry too much about what people say in that regards, maybe I'm just old now days and seen things from the start, and how they have evolved.

darkrider992d ago

Can you play day one any Sony exclusive?

You can play all Microsoft day one.

When it's on more then one platform it's not exclusive. Until it is, it's exclusive. Not that hard to understand

franwex992d ago

But it’s still a Microsoft platform. So it makes sense why Microsoft would also release their games on windows along with Xbox.

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XiNatsuDragnel993d ago

I hope it's 2-3 years later than day 1 because I think Sony seen how Microsoft sales are like imo

RedDevils993d ago

Day 1 would kill their sale. Earliest should be 6 months if not, a year from release is the best profitable time for them.

Red992d ago

Not being funny at all, but I legitimately wanna know how releasing day 1 on PC would "kill" sales.

darkrider992d ago

Exactly. That model is just a gigantic flop. Seven year and they still don't understand.

PrinceOfAnger993d ago

3 or 6 month exclusive is fine, then release on pc.

Shane Kim993d ago

About one year I would say. But at the end of day who cares.

Eonjay992d ago

I would definitely say a year. After seeing how soon TLoU on PC launched after PS5, I think they messed up by trying to get a quick turnaround to coincide with the TV show.

Games are getting ever more complex and when you combine that with the PC landscape, appropriate time must be given. Focus on getting the console version out then have your best porting teams prep for a PC release.

FinalFantasyFanatic992d ago

I think if they did it 3 or 6 months, most people wouldn't even buy the PS version, they'd just wait for the PC version, a longer wait time is probably better for Sony.

Philaroni992d ago

For single player games I would agree. The one thing now we know with the industry is when it comes to MP games you need lots of people fast, and got to keep them engaged. I can't say for sure since my buddy won't tell me but I have a feeling Last of Us Factions might come to PS and PC at the same date. That would make alot of sense to me. Staggering a Multi Player online game just does not seem smart to me. I don't bitch too much but I got really pissed when Street Fighter was a Sony Exclusive... Fighting games above all need players... sure it was a good flex for Sony but more people in games like that which already have a low player base compared to other types of games need a community right away and together.

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lukasmain36d ago (Edited 36d ago )

It's good they still have this deal going on at times. You have to admit $1.00 deals is a great way to get people in the door. Even though it never worked as well as they'd hoped in the past. Clearly. But if people are interested, this is still a great way to try it out and realize that Gamepass is simply not worth $30 a month.

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Neonridr36d ago

depends on how much you game I guess. You could get someone to subscribe to Netflix for a dollar and then realize it's not worth $20 per month if you don't actually sit and watch stuff.

TheColbertinator34d ago

Game Pass is so good they should charge us $50 a month

S2Killinit34d ago

I hope this is sarcasm. Lol

DivineHand12535d ago

It is worth it depending on the type of gamer you are. If you are very young with tons of free time, enjoy single player games but see them as one and done experiences, then Game Pass Ultimate would be valuable to you because you are basically getting games from not only Xbox, but from EA and Ubisoft as well. If you are new and have no library, you may see some value in the service.

For people like myself, though, who are a bit older with limited time to play games, Ultimate is not worth it since I am lucky to play one game to its completion per month. For me, it is better to buy the games upfront unless the service has a few I want to try before I buy.

NotoriousWhiz35d ago

If you are very young with tons of free time, you're probably also broke and can't afford $360 per year on a gaming subscription.

PapaBop34d ago

Didn't even work for me, shown the £1 bit on the link provided then they went and tried to charge me full price, thankfully my bank flagged it and asked me to authorise the transaction which shown them trying to take the full £22.99

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Yeah I'm pretty sure that if you've ever subscribed to GamePass in the past, then this deal won't work for you. It's for brand new subscribers. 95% sure

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I'll take it but i'll never pay monthly subscription, I already got bills!

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Yeah, that’s great, but what about the loyal subscribers? We get the price hike and no offer. They also need to focus on retention. You can’t even use reward points anymore to convert to GamePass.

ocelot0735d ago

Sweet, I'll be getting that if I can and quickly going through latest COD campaign and then letting it laps.

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