ABK is loaded with talent.

@343_Guilty_Spark:

Who's ABK and, if I'm assuming MS just bought them, do you think said talent will be kept on or remain? That its going to be worth anything if MS's management policies has lead to many questioning, if they haven't been able to reliably turn out quality titles, is said management is worth anything?

"Yeah, I think Xbox should just pay tons of money.."

It's all they can ever do anyway...

Jesus..

Offering an extremely good incentive to stay and not jump ship during an acqusition, despite the acqusition not affecting the company's goals, focus, and independence, is forcing? Trolling.

"They allowed them to operate independent and will keep their IP multi. They put unheard of money into retaining talent and keeping them happy."

Sure... I have no doubt people at Bungie just loves Jim Ryan.

https://ca.sports.yahoo.com...

1.2 Billion to retain key talent would make me "happy" though.

"Todd Howard crying about wanting Starfield on all platforms. Get real man."

Lmao! What a rubbish! You people are just desperate because you can´t accept that it was Todd´s decision to be part of XBG. I´m also 100% positive that was he the one who warned Phil Spencer about Sony´s sneaky attempt at making Starfield a PS5 exclusive.

@sinspirit

"Offering an extremely good incentive to stay and not jump ship during an acqusition, despite the acqusition not affecting the company's goals, focus, and independence, is forcing? Trolling."

Yeah, Sony offers it´s staff the right to STFU, and I´m the one trolling? Grow a spine and learn to deal with reality dude! I don´t give a damn if you like it or not. It is what it is:

https://twitter.com/Bungie/...

https://www.gamespot.com/ar...

What does your reply to me have to do with "forcing" Bungie developers to stay with Sony? You stated something specific and I specifically replied to that. So are you going to counter it or just began rambling on other things in your anti-Sony bookmarks because you got caught trying to spread misinformation?

The irony of talking about growing a spine and facing reality when you just avoided the words you just said and started on something else entirely. Chill out and just talk it out. If you're set on not coming to any mutual understanding then what's the point of replying?

Well in obscure defense he put the /S in the end of his comment meaning “ /S_TUPID ” 🤦🏿

As of now, Bungie hasn't changed their intended output. Sony stated they will remain independent and are free to make multi games. That might change in the future, but for now, that is not the case. The only thing that changes now is that developers have to stay with the company they could already do whatever they wanted at for another few years.

Didn't Microsoft force Bethesda to cancel a PlayStation version of red fall? I'd imagine quite a few of them were pissed that the labour went to waste because that's time they're not getting back and may have endured crunch for.

Sony is a bit heavy handed in their approach, but they are at least giving full creative freedom. I don't think Microsoft is doing the same thing because it's an invisible prison approach. You're not free to do what you want but you can leave the studio at any time. Typically that hurts your chances considerably with future prospects when you leave a massive developer/platform holder/publisher. I would imagine this is a big incentive to start new studios: because you're relatively blacklisted.

@DarXyde

"Didn't Microsoft force Bethesda to cancel a PlayStation version of red fall?Didn't Microsoft force Bethesda to cancel a PlayStation version of red fall? I'd imagine quite a few of them were pissed that the labour went to waste because that's time they're not getting back and may have endured crunch for."

What the hell are you even talking about, dude? Is Microsoft obligation to publish its first party games on Playstation? The games they´d PAID BILLIONS for? Are you drunk or something?

Arkane among ALL of Bethesda developers were paid big money for their work and IPs, if Harvey Smith is so eager to release a game on PS5 as you said, he should just leave XBGS, create an independent studio and deal with the costs of development, marketing and publishing himself.

Do yourself a favor and stop crying over Xbox first party games on Playstation, its not happening, you need to find some way and deal with it.

"Sony is a bit heavy handed in their approach, but they are at least giving full creative freedom."

Are they? You should ask Days Gone´s former director on his thoughts about that "freedom":

https://gamingbolt.com/meta...

"I don't think Microsoft is doing the same thing because it's an invisible prison approach. You're not free to do what you want but you can leave the studio at any time."

BS! I can 100% guarantee that you´ll see far more new IPs on Xbox for the entire generation in comparison with Playstation. And I´m not talking about former Bethesda IPs. ì´m talking about new IPs from, InXile, Obsidian, RARE, Ninja Theory, Compulsion Games and Double Fine to name a few.

Not to mention former indie and AA franchises from studios like Ninja Theory and Undead Labs that will be made full AAA under MS.

FYI, it was Playground the ones who approached Phil with a Fable project which Phil not only greenlit, but created a full new studio for Playground made of 300+ employees!

Sony can´t even come close when comes to provide freedom for it´s developers to do what they want.

Talk´s cheap, just bring proof that Sony is allowing it´s developer to work on new project/IPs, because all I see is rinse and repeat:

Ragnarok, Miles, Spider Man 2, Demon Souls, GT7, R&C, Death Stranding 2, Sackboy, Factions, TLOU Remake...

Rinse and Reapeat! Where´s the "freedom"? Where´s the new IPs?

Alright, mate. Gotta slap you down again.

"What the hell are you even talking about, dude? Is Microsoft obligation to publish its first party games on Playstation?"

Never say Microsoft owes that to Sony? Find proof in my comments, clown.

"Arkane among ALL of Bethesda developers were paid big money for their work and IPs, if Harvey Smith is so eager to release a game on PS5 as you said, he should just leave XBGS, create an independent studio and deal with the costs of development, marketing and publishing himself."

If he has the resources and man power, he just might. Too soon to know that, but kinda stuck in this regard, which doesn't really dispute my point. If anything, it helps. Cheers. 🙂

"Do yourself a favor and stop crying over Xbox first party games on Playstation, its not happening, you need to find some way and deal with it."

You're not too bright, mate. I can't say how many times I've made it clear that Microsoft's acquisitions have been pretty harmless to me on a personally. Last games involving either that I actually liked were Sekiro and The Evil Within. From Software owns the IP and Mikami left Tango. I'll be fine, I've been managing for ages now.

"Are they? You should ask Days Gone´s former director on his thoughts about that "freedom"

Garvin had the chance to create the game he wanted... A SEQUEL wasn't greenlit and that is unfortunate, but it didn't meet commercial success either. By both metrics, that's a failure, mate. Sony should grant one more shot, but Ryan disagrees. I'll grant you that this is a restriction. Jaffe is also mentioned in the article and I'll say this: Jaffe's last game was a failure, BUT he said he made exactly what he wanted. FYI.

"BS! I can 100% guarantee that you´ll see far more new IPs on Xbox for the entire generation in comparison with Playstation."

I hope so. They have more studios because they gobble publishers. If they don't, you lot are going to be saying "Wait for next gen!"

"Sony can´t even come close when comes to provide freedom for it´s developers to do what they want."

Sony let Naughty Dog move away from Crash, GG move beyond Killzone, are allowing their newly purchased studio to do whatever they want and publish wherever they want, let MM move away from LBP, allowed Team Siren to move beyond Siren, gave Ueda 10+ years on The Last Guardian, etc, etc, etc. Sony has quite a few dormant IPs too because they're working on new things. I'm very bitter with Sony for closing Japan studio, but there's quite a bit of freedom over at PlayStation, I'd say.

"Ragnarok, Miles, Spider Man 2, Demon Souls, GT7, R&C, Death Stranding 2, Sackboy, Factions, TLOU Remake..."

They're free to make these sequels. You think Yamauchi wants to do anything beyond GT? Is Insomniac not making Wolverine? Is Factions not going to be something completely different? Sony doesn't even own KojiPro... Such a brain dead take. What about a "AAAA" studio being asked to reboot an old game? Playground rebooting an old game? Your typical Gears/Forza/Halo rotation? You're not being objective and you look silly.

Behave yourself.

Again, didn't reply to me pointing out how you made up misinformation and wanting you to back it up. Even though, again, you ironically talked about growing a spine and facing reality.

Stop being so sensitive. Darxyde didn't insult you or try to make you look bad in any way and you're saying he's crying about something and calling him drunk. Not everyone is a fanboy for the platforms they love and trying to flame or insult other camps. You're not even having discussions in these replies. You're just finding ways to weasel in other topics and paste your bookmarks you store for trying to stir arguments. What I find disingenuous is to also not even try to talk with a person and just try to talk down to them and everything they say so you can funnel in the same things repeated over and over regardless of good counter points or just mere interest in replying to make discussion.

I'm curious of this studio that you said Phil "created a full new studio for Playground made of 300+ employees! ". What is this new studio made for Playground?

Again, disingenuous is trying to argue that one or two bad experiences makes the whole company suddenly exhibiting bad patterns as a whole. The irony of you bringing up the Sony Bend Days Gone thing is that the next half of your comment is about Sony suddenly not being supportive of new IP's out of absolutely no where. They just supported making a new IP, Days Gone 1. Now you want them to not focus on a new IP in the same comment that you also penalize them for not green-lighting a sequel. Also, not every idea is a good one. We don't know how these talks and presentations went with Sony. All we know is that Sony actually green-lit them to do another new IP. Which, again you are trying to say in the same comment that they suddenly do not support new IP's. You're damning them for an imaginary lack of new IP's and for green-lighting a new IP at the same time.

"provide freedom for it´s developers to do what they want." ""bring proof that Sony is allowing it´s developer to work on new project/IPs"

BluePoint picked Demons Souls. That was their choice. Stop going back and forth with statements that contradict yourself by leaving out details. You're saying they stop creativity and choice by stating they worked on a remake, when the remake is something they actually wanted to work on. Sony had a multitude of brand new IP's all last generation and this is from many different studios, some of which worked on entirely different genres before. They already had new IP's release this generation, and we know that they have many new IP's in development that have just not been shown yet. You're also nuts if you think you can expect anyone to forget all their work last generation. Of course you'd want us to conveniently forget the worst XBox generation where Sony had a dozen or so big budget AAA new IP's that are all now getting their sequels.

Also, how are you listing Ninja Theory when they are working on HellBlade 2 and not a new IP?
Sony has a history we can trust. MS doesn't. They debuted a ton of CGI trailers, again, and we already heard of more development troubles and even entirely starting over like with Everwild. Sony has repeatedly delivered with few exceptions on new IP's and sequels. Sony isn't known for rinse and repeat because they actually deliver when a new IP comes along. MS is known for this because they desperately rely on the same franchises to get them by, and these franchises are really not doing too well.

I own both consoles & Halo Infinite is a boring game no matter what the Metacritic score is. There are Xbox fans that agree Halo Infinite is not all that.